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Episode Date: August 20, 2025

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Is Jalen Daniels, does he have a shot at winning Big 12 player the year? What about the over-under win total for Kansas? How many games are they going to win? Plenty of season-long props and predictions for KU football in this episode of Locked on Jayhawks. You are Locked-on Jayhawks, your daily podcast on the Kansas Jayhawks. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. What is going on? Derek Johnson here. This is Locked on Jayhawks. And joining me today is Nick Springer who lost a battle with the sun. He is currently ongoing a battle with a fly as well. So hopefully make through on today. I wasn't sure how to address the sunburn situation. Yeah, I went to a golf tournament today and I looked like Rudolph. So awesome. Awesome. Well, thank you for making Locked on Jayhawks. Your first listen every day. Thank you every day.

catching each and every episode. So today's episode, we're going to be going to be going to be talking KU football, breaking things down with Nick. And you can catch all of Nick's work with Kansas City Sports Network. You can catch it with Payheed as well, which is the podcast that he works on specifically with KCSN, in addition to a lot of the other work that he does over there and always does great work. Me and Nick used to work together on the radio in Lawrence together.

Today's episode, before we get into it, though, is brought to you by Monarch Money. take control of your finances with Monarch money. Use code locked on college at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year. Okay, so Nick, I'm just going to rip the Band-Aid off real quick. So the very first prop that I want to go over is the win total. And actually, for a while, that wind total was sitting at seven and a half over at Fandual. It is now six and a half. And that is minus odds.

So they think it's likely to happen. It's minus 162. But let me ask you this. What win total would you most? want to bet if you had to pick one so you can get over six and a half meaning seven or more wins and this is regular season only at minus 162 you can get over seven and a half at plus 120 you can get over eight and a half at plus 240 and if you really want to have fun you can get over nine and a half at plus 500 though at that point are you better off just taking them to win the big 12 at 15 one so

if you had to pick one of those what would you go with yeah you know I'll just go on the record here and say that last year I picked Kansas Go 111 Obviously that was a really poor pick I really couldn't have been worse truthfully And what's so fascinating about the over under win totals for this season Derek Is that you look around the Big 12 And most books have like 12 teams

Within like three wins of each other Which indicates to me that nobody has any idea What is going to happen basically in the Big 12 this season And so that's kind of the predicament with Kansas and you look at the conference schedule. And again, you know, even going into last year, you looked at the conference schedule and thought it looked, quote unquote, soft,

and then that ended up being not the case to start the season. So I don't know what's tough. You know, I think I can confidently say I felt pretty good about here you go at least two and one in non-conference play, right? I mean, the Missouri game is going to be tough. You know, I'll chuck it up as a loss for now.

So that gives you two. So can you put together five conference wins, essentially, to get to seven wins at that point, which I think is probably, to me, seven and five is where I'm sort of conceded, falling on for the most part for Kansas. So I would probably feel safe as taking the six and a half. The seven and a half makes me nervous because I just, I don't know. I mean, you know, you think about a, I mean, I can think of four games off the top of my head that are easy coin slip games

and conference play. You think about the Utah game. You think about Iowa State. You think about K State. That's three right there. The Texas. I mean, anytime you go on the road. Like, realistically. I know using Arizona aren't supposed to be very good this year, but could you lose one of those two? Like, yeah. Easily. Easily. 100%. And in fact, I actually, in my predictions, I picked KU to lose against UCF. It just feels like a game that they're going to drop one of those games. So that's the real issue is it's so hard to predict before the season, where the Big 12 is going to be over the course of the season. And it's going to really come down to when you catch teams, right? Because it's very possible that maybe KU does catch a, you

UCF or in Arizona on a on a bad week where they're playing really well and they end up being a you know, three or four win team overall, but you call them on a bad week or conversely, maybe Texas Tech gets decimated with injuries. I mean, they already lost their running back quite and Joyer to a torn ACL and maybe suddenly that game looks like it's a game you can win, right? If, if Baron Morton gets hurt for the umpteat time as he always does. So it's, it's so hard to predict at this point. I would say, again, I continue to sort of circle back to seven and five. I think that's probably an achievable, realistic goal for Kansas, but could they go nine and three? Sure. Am I going bet on it? I don't know, probably not right now. I do like, though, the value of the plus

240 of over eight and a half. Like, I'd almost rather take that than the over seven and a half at plus 120. You're getting double the odds to win one more game. And like at that point, the difference between eight or nine games or eight or nine wins is just like you had one other one score game probably go your way. Like, that's kind of the difference. So I think that's where kind of the value would be for me. But yeah, the six and a half makes you feel a little safer. Okay, next one up. More likely, Jalen Daniels wins Big 12 player of the year or any other Jayhawk earns AP first team All American honors. Man, I think when you look at the, but the issue with Jaylon Daniels is, and he's had obviously a very interesting career arc with Kansas when you think back to

being a early Heisman candidate and then obviously himself being a preseason big 12 player of the year at one point in 2023 to where now it almost seems like he's disrespected, I think, around the league. And maybe that's fair, considering, you know, last season, how things unfolded for him. But he was still one of the top quarterbacks in the league over the second half of the season after he got out of that slow start. So that's an interesting one. But you look around the conference and, I mean, when you got a guy like Sam Levitt at Arizona State, if he has another good season, probably he's going to have a good chance to win it. You think about some of the other quarterbacks Iraqo bat i mean really to me it just comes down to if any of those other teams

you know even like a devon dampier for utah if any of those teams make the big 12 title game their respective quarterbacks are probably going to have a good chance of winning that that particular award right barring an incredible season from somebody else so that's where i'm a little questionable in jill and daniel says i think you would have to do something pretty impressive to do to to win that award but then on the flip side you think about at the all america i mean is Bryce Foster your best pick, I guess? Unless Emilman Henderson just goes crazy

on offense. You know, maybe Daniel Hyshoff. He has a great year. On defense, I don't know who would even have a chance. Well, I think this is what it would take on defense. It would take one of your, because okay, we know how pollsters, I don't know, is that like a pollster thing, regardless.

Like the people who vote on the the people who vote on like the All-American list for the most part, not everyone. But a lot of them for like the defense, defensive backs. They're not looking at pro football focus. They're not looking at like coverage numbers. They're not watching the film on all the corners and being like who's the lockdown guy. They're looking at who racked up the interceptions. So theoretically, if a KU safety or corner had seven interceptions, even if they were like, you know, the second, like they could, they could give

up a 30% completion rate, but they get seven interceptions with like two pick sixes. They're getting first team all American honors. Yeah, but I mean, but again, if somebody like that has seven interceptions, but Kansas is seven and five. I don't think that's enough to get them on first team All-American. So I guess I would go with Jaylon Daniels because that, you know, let's say if KU is going to make the big doll title, which you probably are going to have one about that, I think later on on the show. But if they are going to make that run, presumably that would mean that Jaylon Daniels is going to have a great year, which at that point puts them in the best position to achieve that. So I'll go with Taylor and Daniels on that. Okay. Let's tackle that one

right now. More likely, KU basketball wins the national championship or KU football plays for the Big 12 championship in Arlington. So they don't have to win it. They just have to play for it. Yeah, I mean, just naturally, the odds would tell you to pick KU football here because you're talking about one out of 16 versus. I don't think anybody five years ago said the odds would say take KU football. Well, I'm just saying numbers wise, right? I mean, KU basketball is it's a 6018 tournament for now. Thank you. Whoever voted on that, to deny the expansion because that would have been terrible. Pretty soon football is going to be 68 teams too, right?

Yeah, that's true too. That's true, too. So the numbers will tell you just simply to pick KU football because they would have a higher likelihood. But, I mean, I am maybe the leader of the Darren Peterson hype train right now. I mean, I think he's going to be Cooper Flagg-esque, truly, for KU basketball. I guess the question would be, do you get the enough production out of some of your other transfers, There's guys like Trey White, who Bill Self-a-Said has been great. But, you know, then someone like Melbourne Council, and, I mean, I know you and I have had many arguments and discussions about three-point shooting.

Does KU have enough of it again this year? It's another, unfortunately, hot-button issue for KU. And then on the football side, like I said, I mean, I think it comes down to, is Jalen Daniels able to elevate his game to that level that we just discussed where he is, you know, a top two or three quarterback in the league? And then there are a lot of questions on the KU defense. I mean, let's just be honest. They lost quite a bit of veteran presence, especially in the secondary.

You're rolling out your top three linebackers are going to be brand new transfers. Dean Miller is teams to be dealing with an injury to start the year. So what's his status? Does that hurt KU from a pass-fresh perspective? So a lot of questions there. But yeah, I'll say this. We'll hop on the time machine, Derek, back to 2017. And I'll tell them that I think KU football is more likely to win the Big 12 title than KU

has to win the national championship. And we'll see what people think about that. How about that? You will not make it back to 2020. you'll be in jail, I don't know, mental institution, something like that. All right. For what it's worth, yeah, yeah, I think it's football. Because if you look at like ESPN FBI, I think it has Kansas is like an 11% chance.

And even if you think that as high, if you view it from a standpoint of Kansas is like 20 to one odds, I mean, those are just lower odds over a fan duel for them to do with the basketball side of things. So, yeah, it actually is KU football to make the conference championship game. All right, we got some more props coming at you, including who's going to lead the team. in receiving yards who's going to lead the team in sacks some uh lance light hold getting dirty with the refs plenty coming up unlocked on jhawks today's episode of loj is brought to you by monarch money most people can't name all their financial accounts or even what they're worth whether it's

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We're going to move to the receiving yards. Emmanuel Henderson, Cam Pickett, or all the KU tight ends combined, which of those three wind up with the most receiving yards? And by the way, that two deep that came out was a little bit, I don't know, surprising might be the word of who was where. And we'll see what that actually means in terms of snap counts. I mean, how shocked are you really, Derek, that Lance Leipold did some screwy stuff with the opening game depth chart?

I'm shocked. I just always think back to like Hayden Hatcher being above Austin Booker to start the season. And like, I think they really want to give the guys with seniority like that first opportunity, if that makes sense. Yeah, I agree with that. So I do a little research here, Derek. And the numbers for the tight ends receiving wise last year were not good. As in if you were to combine Jared Casey and Trevor Cardell from last season, you end up with about 300. 50 yards receiving between those two guys.

And let me tell you, if Cam Pickett or Manion Henderson can't achieve that benchmark, KU's going to have a lot of problems, like a significant amount of problems, all the problems you can think of. So I'm going to go with, so it's the question. I have three options. It's Can't Pickett Amanda Henderson or the tight ends. Yes. Okay.

So I'm eliminating the tight ends already. Okay. Now, if we do go back to the year before, which if Jim Zabrowski's offense is closer to Andy Koldeniki, you get 451. one from Fairchild, 107 from Casey, so that's 558, and then Cardell gave you 6,9. So that's, yeah, you're a little over 600. I guess the question becomes down to how much are you buying into Deshaun Hanukkah being a real receiving threat?

Because maybe Deshaunaheke this year could have 450 yards himself, which I guess is possible. But I'm going to, I'm going to rule that out. I'm going to rule off the tight ends. That leads me with Camp Pick and Amanda Henderson. I think obviously over the court, even going back to spring, 99% of the hype train for the KUI receiver room has been on Emmanuel Henderson. You know, he's flashy from Alabama, right, has a ton of speed.

Coach Matt Gillisleave, the Strengthen Nation coach for Kansas said that he was the only guy that hit the same velocity as Jason Bean. I think everyone remembers how fast Jason Bean was for KU. So that's obviously eye-popping. But over the course of camp, Derek, I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Camp Pickett may be the more. reliable, consistent guy for KU from a receiving standpoint. I think you're going to get those pop plays from Daniel Henderson.

I think he's going to be the more explosive option, but I think Camp Pickett is going to be the more consistent option. So now it comes down to, let's say, if Camp Pickett gets 20, 30 more catches than Nathan Henderson, is he getting enough yards to compensate from the fact that maybe Amanda Henderson's going to have a couple of deep balls thrown his way? I say yes, I'm going to go with Can Pickett here. I think Camp Pickett is actually going to leave the team in receiving. should I just give the number?

Should I be so old as to predict a number? I think Cam Pickett's going to have 780 receiving yards this year, and I think that's going to be the most on the team. That is my prediction. I think he's also going to leave the team in receptions. But I think Commander Henderson could leave the team in touchdowns and yards per catch. But Pickett, I think, is a guy that you can get the ball in space,

create yards after catch, and I think he's going to rack some of that up over the course of the year. Yeah, I've started to shift a little bit, and that Cam Pickett is more equivalent to Luke Grimm and Jalen Daniels always had the best connection with Luke Grimm. Like the years in the games that it was L.J. Arnold and Quentin Skinner leading the team and receiving yards were mostly with Jason Bean. Grim always had that connection with Daniels, so it would make sense with Pickett.

I still am going to go Henderson, though, just because like we haven't seen a receiver like Emmanuel Henderson with Jalen Daniels. You know what I mean? Like somebody that fat and like it's just different types of players that we've seen there. I guess you could say a little bit of Trevor Wilson, but I think Henderson is even faster than he was in, like, just a more complete player overall. So I am still going to go Henderson. And I don't mean to douse anybody's optimism for Manuel Henderson.

I think Milton Harrison is still going to be, have a major impact. But I'm on the camp picket train now. Yep. Okay. More sacks. Dean Miller or Justice Finley plus Alex Bray. Yeah, this is an interesting one. I mentioned earlier in the show, get the sense that Dean Miller might be a little banged up to start

the season, not 100%. So we'll see if that impacts maybe the start of his season to get things underway. Just as Finkley obviously has demonstrated an incredible amount of leadership for Kansas since arriving on campus. That's been, I think, his number one trait. And he's not a guy that's been brought up in terms of racking up a lot of sacks, but more of a playing on that strong side, really locking things down. Then Alex Bray is an interesting wildcard, Derek, because Illinois had him at defensive tackle.

They played him on the inside. And now, and he basically came to Kansas because he didn't want to do that anymore. He wanted to be an outside rushing type of player. And so can he prove that that that's what he is, right? That that's what he can be, is the big question. I think I'm going to go with Dean Miller still for this one, because I don't really know what to expect him, Justice Finkley, from a sack production standpoint.

I think he's going to be a very productive player. Justice Finkley screams to me, actually, Derek, as a type of guy that he's not always he's probably not going to have a lot of tackles probably not going to have a lot of you know big plays but i think he's just going to be the type of player that that it's not going to show up in the box score but he's going to make a major impact just in terms of directing the defensive line you know eating up blocks things like that and then again with alice bray i just don't know so i think i'll go with dean miller for this one but i wouldn't say i'm overly confident about it so bray um not really a big sack guy but again he was playing kind of a different

position at Illinois. You look at the pass rush win rate, though, for Alex Bray, according to pro football focus, it's under 2%. Now, Finkley last year was like 13%, which is really, really high, but it was a part-time role, so it's going to be easier. Miller was closer to that 7% range a season ago. Now, again, when you go back to the year before, when Finkley played bigger snaps, it is closer to that 7% mark.

But Jeremy Robinson and Dylan Woodke combined last year had 6.5 sacks. Miller had 6. I think Finkley is actually going to be a better player than Jeremy Robinson. And I think that Bray, you know, Woodke gave you one sack. Can he get one that Woodke had? So I'm going to actually take Finkley. I'm really high on Finkley. I think he can be absolute studs.

So I'm going to take that too over Dean Miller, especially with kind of the injury stuff at the beginning of the season. Okay, I got two Daniel Hyshaw ones. We'll piggyback him together here. Over under two and a half fumbles for Daniel Hyshaw. that's the negative one he's at seven in his career hasn't lost all of them and then the positive one over under five and a half demoralizing moves by daniel highshaw that's kind of a you know it when you see it right you think the spin move you think of the two trucks he had against UCF like there's

there's a lot that you can point to so uh what would you choose for those two overhunders yeah the fumbles one is tough because uh i think with daniel highshaw this feels like uh i guess redemption arcs maybe not the right term for him but going into the season it's like like, hey, this is your backfield now, right? Obviously, working with Devin Neal and not necessarily being in the shadow of Devin Neal, but obviously always kind of being second fiddle to the hometown kid who is obviously such a great running back for Kansas over the course of his career. And now this is Daniel Highshod's chance to step in the limelight.

And the two biggest questions are, A, can he stay healthy? And B, is he ready for that opportunity, essentially? So when it comes to the fumbling, that is an issue that I think has gone overlooked a little bit with what he's had in his past. As you outlined, it's been an issue, it's been a struggle for him at times in previous seasons. I'm going to go under, though.

I think, I think, I think, I think, uh, I think he's locked in for this season. So I'm going to go under on the fumbles. I don't think, I mean, I, he's not going to have three fumbles. No,

no shot. Uh, for the demoralizing moves. Hmm. I mean, I think I have to go over, right? I mean, I just want to go, I just have to go over just because I want to see it. I just want to see more, right?

I just want to see how many he can get. because yeah it's insane you think back to like that duke run where i think you could argue we had like three demoralizing moves in one run against duke on that one play uh and so yeah he goes and trucks a couple guys you know stiff arms a couple guys throws him out of bounds whatever it may be yeah give me the over on daniel high shot i think he's going to be a run indifferent this year i'm going to say over on both uh because if you are getting more trucks you might fumble the ball a little bit more there so uh i'll go over on both all right we got some fun ones lance light hold k uh state missouri stuff We've got a little more KU basketball stuff

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one and a half combination of fines and on sportsman-like penalties by Lance Leipold for being mad at the refs this year. He'll get after the refs. Yeah. Yeah. He does not like to bring it up in the press conference, though. He likes to like kind of tiptoe around it. No. Yeah. And there's been several occasions where he himself has brought up like basically, I don't want to get fined. He's like, you saw it. I don't want to talk. Yeah. But you saw it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's his favorite card to play no dollar signs yeah yeah that's his favorite card to play in the post game press conferences i don't want to get fined but i mean you saw what i saw right it's like i don't know lance i mean i think the guys is trying to do his job and you're just yelling at him you know

parading him endlessly i don't know i don't know man uh but yeah if you want to have some fun if you happen to if you're going to be out at the new booth at any point this season uh yeah watch just just find land fly put on the sideline and just watch it because he faces like an angry angry person. In fact, I honestly, I can't recall a single time on a broadcast at least where they cut to Lance and he doesn't have any other expression on his face than like just pure anger. Like, Kansas can just score an 80-yard touchdown and they cut to Lance and he's like frowning, you know, about something. Who knows what? It's got a little bit of sleeping in him. Yeah.

Which is not happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I was also trying to think, Derek. I mean, how many penalties has he gotten over the course of his time at 10 years? Did you get one last year. Am I misremembering? I could have sworn the last year. That's what I was trying to think. It's like how many game maybe? Yeah, I was trying to think how many he actually had. I want to say he had one against West Virginia, maybe two years ago, too. I was just trying to think off the top of my head of how many he actually has had over the course of the last, what, three years now. You would think they go together, though. Like you have a game where you

get a penalty, then you're going to the press conference. Yeah, that is true. So this could be, you know, a little two for one special in one game. So you know what? I mean, I've seen Lance Epoe berate officials enough that I'm just going to go over. Something's going to happen. It's going to set him off. It's a fun one to take the over. So I'm going to take the over for sure. Okay.

Here's a not so fun one. What would you prefer? Kansas goes two and ten, but their two wins are over Missouri and K state. Or they go 10 and three and their losses are to Missouri. They state and then they lose again to K state in Arlington. And every one of those three losses is by 20 or more points. See, I, you know, I hate it. when you do this stuff like i hate it i it's it's genuinely torturous uh you know i think

because this is the first year of the k u missouri rivalry coming back i can't decide if that means that it's more important to win this one or less important right because like if you lose you just be like i who cares we haven't played in 12 years like what you know what's the difference but if you win obviously then it's like hey we just you know look at that we're still beating your ass 12 years later after we stopped playing uh but yeah i mean the case state one is a really tough one for me because i i i hate losing the case state i'll say it i hate it's it's no fun i was in the booth you know when when rich miller dropped the pick six it should have secured it i went i was in manhattan last year watching them battle it out and ultimately find a way maybe you're the problem

you can't go it's it's true i might be the problem but hey i listen that can't be true though because they've lost 16 straight and I've only been to like four of them okay so you can't blame me you can't blame me for all 16 all but I don't like in the new booth this this game coming up this year is going to be important because it is the new I mean it's two-thirds new booth so I really I really want the the streak ender for KU to be of a lot of significance right which is why I wanted that one in Lawrence two years ago so badly because it was going to be Gavin Neal's last game in the old booth. It was going to be the last game of the old booth in general before they tear it down.

So I wanted that one bad. They don't get it obviously. And then I was like, okay, it would be nice to beat him in Manhattan. Didn't get that one, obviously. So this year I'm like, okay, they're playing in the new-ish booth, the two-thirds new booth. So it's like, that'd be cool. But maybe it'd be cooler if they break it when in the booth is fully completed, right? Which would be in two years, 2027, I guess.

Why not both? Yeah, I don't know. But, dude, I don't think I could stomach losing to those boys in the regular season and then again in the Big 12 title. Like, if you were offering me up, hey, KU's going to lose to Missouri and KU's going to lose to K State, they're going to be 10 and 2. They go to the Big 12 title game and they lose to like, I don't know, Texas Tech or whatever. I'd be like, sure, fine, whatever. I don't care. But to lose again, again to those boys?

20 or more, by 20 or more. That doesn't even matter to me, truthfully. in fact you may hate to hear this i think i told just before i would prefer to lose big in games like that i would as a fan obviously as obviously is like a player or coach easier to disassociate yeah exactly you have you know the chief cerebral last year is a great example i had 40 i had you know four hours basically to cope with the chiefs being terrible at losing in the super bowl versus if you lose on the last second field goal dude it would take me like i oh years to recover from that i mean i still have PTSD from marcus marius marius cast to himself

Okay, in a playoff game against the Chiefs. So I would prefer they lose big. So that part is irrelevant to me. I guess I would still take that outcome, though, the 10 and 3. Because I think a 10 win seat, because to me at that point, the discussion becomes, which would be like of greater impact for the program as a whole, right? A 10 win season would have significantly more positive impact versus beating Missouri and beating K-State, but going 2 in 10.

Right. Like think about explaining to recruits like, hey, coach, I don't know if, especially like out of the transfer portal, coach, I only have one year left. Like, I don't know if I want to come there. You just went two and ten. He's like, but did you see we beat our rivals? And he's like, I mean, first two and three, 10 and three sets you up for a better chance to beat your rivals in the future. If that makes sense. Yeah. And look, it's 2025. Unfortunately, I don't call it fall fans, but I want to hear this, but rivalries don't matter, especially to recruits. Like, they don't matter. They just don't. I'm sorry. Like, I hate it, too, but it's the reality we live it. Okay, last one I got for you here. This was posted by KU MN's basketball for the first day back for school. I don't know if you, they've been doing these for a couple years.

These are kind of fun. It has Cole Rosario and Darren Peterson on it. And it says, you know, first day of school, my grade, 13th grade, like favorite subject for Rosario math for Peterson's science. And this is my favorite food. What are we doing? What? What, what? I mean, I haven't even, look, I read this top down. So I'm already confused at the math part. And then it just becomes into a train record. Nick is notorious for being bad at math. This is the part I want to ask you about, though. It's my favorite food, which they both picked great favorite foods. Cole Rosario's steak, Darren Peterson, is pizza. However, it is the way that these are prepared that I have a bit of an issue with. Cole Rosario's favorite is steak, but he puts in parentheses medium well. And then Darren Peterson puts in parentheses,

cheese. Can we get the guy at topping? Dude's about to be the first in the draft. Can we get him some pepperoni or sausage? Well, and you made a great point. Mushrooms, if you won't be healthy. If somebody asks you, hey, what's your favorite food? And you just say steak, nothing else. They're going to be like, oh, sick, right? But if you say medium well steak, they're going to think, what is he doing?

What is going on here? So the question here is which one of those is more alarming? Um, well, you know, Derek, I think you know this too, but I'm, I personally am not a huge pizza guy. Like, I don't really, you're a picky eater. Yeah. I'm a pick, I'm a bit of a picky eater. I don't love pizza that much, right? I think the steak has got to be more alarming. Um, because like, cheese pizza, sure, it's boring and it's bland, but like, I don't think anybody's going to be looking at you weird if you just get cheese pizza. No, I mean, I don't have a problem. I mean, I guess, well, but for it to be your face. favorite food? Like, come on. What are we doing? Well, you got to keep in mind, Derek. These guys are still kids, okay? It's okay for them to have their favorite food. The favorite food would be cheese pizza for now.

Aaron Peterson's about to be a multi, multi-hundred millionaire in like five years. He's also 18 years old. Let the man love his cheese pizza. I mean, what are we doing? Well, the wheel better get some extra cheese pizza because if Darren Peterson went off. If we circle back to this and Darren Peterson does one of these things for like the NBA where it's like he's playing with I don't know whoever's going to be the worst team next year and they still says his favorite food cheese pizza that's that's when you call the cops that's when you're like look man you're 22 years old just how there's got to be something else besides cheese pizza well that's okay I have culinary questions for the team but as long as they're going on the basketball court I don't think anybody will care all right now what are you

got going on yeah we're over on the KC Sports Network KCSN with Kevin as Derek said the paid podcast you can find us apple spotify uh we're also on youtube at kansas jocs k c s in we post a bunch of content there uh we're going to be doing some live shows over the course of kie football season as well on saturdays post game shows uh so yeah it should be a lot of fun looking forward to it and obviously going into in a basketball season as well but of course your great listeners derrick uh should know that you are obviously the superior k u uh analyst at this don't say that don't say that i don't know about that i think kevin trumps us both if we're being completely honest he is that's true if we're talking strictly

Texas and O's Kevin, I mean, well, first of all, that guy's ancient. So he should, you know, he's, he's forgotten more about football than I even know. So he should, he should be the most knowledgeable. There we go. Well, Nick, appreciate the time, then. Thank you. All right, that'll do for this episode, Locked on Jayhawks again. Find us anywhere you get your podcast, including on our YouTube page where you can like and subscribe to the show. We'll see you on Thursday for a KU Fresno State preview.