Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - If Bill Self Retired Today, Who Would Be the Top Candidates for Kansas Jayhawks Men's Basketball?

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

Following the Kentucky job search being chaotic, who would be the top candidates for Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball and Travis Goff if/when Bill Self retired. Different tiers of candidates from Tommy Lloyd to Dan Hurley to Fred Hoiberg, Buzz Williams, Jacque Vaughn, Nate Oats, Matt Painter and more plus future coaches to keep an eye on down the road.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Monopoly GO!Get in the game and join your friends. Download MONOPOLY GO! now free on The App Store or Google Play. Yahoo FinanceFor comprehensive financial news and analysis, visit the brand behind every great investor, YahooFinance.com. LinkedInThese days every new potential hire can feel like a high stakes wager for your small business. That’s why LinkedIn Jobs helps find the right people for your team, faster and for free. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/lockedoncollege. Terms and conditions apply.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelFanDuel, America’s Number One Sportsbook. Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning GUARENTEED That’s A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – win or lose! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started. eBay MotorsFrom brakes to exhaust kits and beyond, eBay Motors has over 122 million parts to keep your ride-or-die alive. With all the parts you need at the prices you want, it’s easy to bring home that big win. Keep your ride-or-die alive at EbayMotors.com. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

On today's Locked on Jayhawks, if Bill Self retired today, who would Kansas go after? Who would be the top targets to take over at KU? You are Locked on Jayhawks, your daily podcast on the Kansas Jayhawks. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. I'm Derek Johnson.

You can give me a follow on Twitter at DJohnsonRadio. Thanks for making Locked On Jayhawks your first listen every day. We are free and available anywhere you get your podcasts, including on our YouTube page where you can like and subscribe to the show. And on today's edition of LOJ, we're going to go into a, I don't know, fun is a relative word here, a hypothetical of the day when Bill Self retires, who are going to be the candidates. Now, I don't bring this up to be like, oh, Bill Self is close to retiring.

I don't know. He could coach another 10 years. Seems like he was pretty renewed when he talked about it last offseason. He could also coach two more years, five more years. Nobody totally knows, and obviously health could be a factor and all that and everything. But I think it's a prevalent conversation to have after seeing Kentucky go through a coaching change with John Calipari.

So we're going to be breaking that down, who would be the top candidates for the job. And this will be something that we can just update every offseason. Every year we can talk about this and have an updated list, and maybe that will get us prepared for when that day comes, which hopefully it's a while down the road, that we will be a little bit more prepared for it. First though, this episode of the show is brought to you by Monopoly Go. I admit it. I have a competitive side and it is a big fan

of Monopoly Go. Mobile hit twist on classic Monopoly. So join your friends and download Monopoly Go now free on the app store or Google play store. So we're going to start here with the Bill Stealth stuff. Who would be the top candidates? I have a tier zero and a tier one um and and some criteria would be looking at tier two and tier three and then we'll get to the future tier which is guys that like right now probably wouldn't be to the level that you'd be looking at at the job um but i guess then again maybe you would have said that with mark pope and byu and ends up getting the kentucky job um but guys to maybe keep an eye on that if they have success at their next stop or their current stop or whatever, that maybe they could be a guy to look out for. Obviously, all of this

depends on when this would happen. Like I said, who knows? Maybe Bill Self could coach five more years. Maybe he could coach 10 more years. Maybe it's two more. Nobody totally knows, but this is just a fun hypothetical if we get there. Okay, so why are certain coaches not on these lists, on these tiers that I'm about to get to here? Well, one is age. Ideally, I think the coach is 55 or under, and that is something that I'm fine if you want to be, oh, he's 56. Like, okay, if he's that good of a coach, like, whatever.

Probably, honestly, if he's even under 50, that would be even better. I don't think that you can be just as lucky that you're going to get a Bill Self type guy. Maybe you will, but I don't know that list is much smaller now when, you know, Bill Self was what, like 40 years old when he took over the KU job, you know? So it's tough to find guys that are that young. But if you get somebody who's 50, you could hypothetically have them coach for 10, 15, 20 years at your program. If they're 55, that could be, you know, eight, 10, 15 years at your program. And as much as it's easy to look at the Roy Williams and Bill South air and be like, Oh, every coach in Kansas is going to be here 20 years. You know,

the guy right before that with Larry Brown was here for single digit years. Right. So that is something entirely possible, but still you want it to be 55 or under, you know, there's some really good coaches that are maybe 60 years old. So like Greg McDermott is like 60 years old. He's going to be turning 60 this year at Creighton. I don't know where these guys would rank in the tiers list. I didn't bother to really think about it that much because criteria Bruce Pearl is

like in his mid sixties and say what you want, where you would tear those guys and all that stuff. But point being, um, I don't think you would hire a coach if you're Kansas who, you know, you're 62 years old and it's like, oh, okay, we're going to hire someone who's older than Bill Self and they're going to only have three years here or something like that, right? I thought about making an exception for Billy Donovan, who's 58 years old, but he's been out of the college game so long. How do we know how he's going to deal with the portal and the NIL game? And again, I don't know where those guys are ranking some of these tiers, but I also have a classification. My only other criteria is that don't play a boring style. This is more of a me personal thing. And I do think like winning cures all, if you're that good

of a coach, I think you can suck it up. Like if you're, if you're playing a winning style, that's what matters the most. Are you winning games? But like, man, I don't know. I know this one would be less popular now. Again, I don't know where he would tear out, but like Tony Bennett i don't know i i know this one would be less popular now again i don't know where he would tear out but like tony bennett you know over the last couple years where they've lost in the first round like every year in the tournament that's made that a little less of a popular thing but for some of these big jobs but like um no i don't want that style i want to watch entertaining basketball to say the least okay tier zero this is one that i didn't even put on the the notes here because it's it's going to be real brief this is just the call them and make

them tell you no list which um is a list that probably means they're going to tell you no but you make the call because whatever it costs you five minutes of time and and then the no ends up happening brad stevens would be the guy he's 47 old still, but he ain't leaving his job as an NBA GM where he's sort of out of the public limelight, but he's building this thing in Boston where they have the best record in the NBA and he's making millions of dollars and his family seems happy and he probably has way less stress than coaching. But hypothetically, what if that competition urge to get back into coaching

does come back to him? I don't know. You make the call and you make him say no. But yeah, it probably isn't that. Okay. Tier one, these would be excellent hires. And honestly, this first guy on this list, based on what happened with the Kentucky job might have to go into tier zero, which is that you call him to make him say no, that would be Dan Hurley, Dan Hurley, the head coach at Connecticut. He's 51 years old. So this would be one where, you know, hypothetically, if Bill Self, let's say he had three more years with Bill Self. And again, I have no idea. It could be five,

it could be 10, it could be whatever. You know, you're approaching more toward the mid 50s. So maybe you're not getting as many years, but clearly we've seen what he's been able to do in his time at Connecticut. And based on how the Kentucky thing went, it's hard to say like, oh, he would, he would leave for the Kansas job because I think there are pluses and minuses of the Kentucky job when you're comparing it to the Kansas job. I think the Kentucky job, it's almost like you have these bat bleep crazy fans that take it to a whole nother level. And so that can go both ways with a fan base. Now, Dan Hurley is kind of that same level

so you would think that would endear him more but it seems like his big reason for staying in UConn was like his wife and his family and stuff like that and that's not something that you're going to change with the Kansas side of things now Kansas is more of like a homey job whereas Kentucky is more of that kind of crazy uh type of job now both are blue bloods and are great places to win and have great facilities and nil money and all that stuff although honestly like i i don't know i i think if you ask john calipari kansas had it better in nil but if you ask mark pope maybe he would say we're pretty set on nil i don't know but uh yeah point being uh dan hurley he might end up going to that tier

zero where it's like yeah he probably says no if he said no to kentucky which is you know similar job level to kansas um but you call anyway and make him say no. The next guy on this list is Tommy Lloyd. He is 49 years old at Arizona. And Tommy Lloyd was a former assistant coach at Gonzaga for a long time with Mark Few, goes to Arizona, hits the ground running. Yes, he has not had the great tournament success yet. But, you know, he's still made, what, two sweet 16s?

And then you have the upset in the first round out of three years. That's still such a small sample size. And it's not like he's gone first round, first round, first round exit in all three years. Right. Like at least you do have two sweet sixteens in there for Tommy Lloyd. And you know, you can almost view it similar to bill self, right? Like bill self was a great coach. He was winning a bunch of games at Illinois at Tulsa,

oral Roberts at Kansas. He didn't make his first final four till 2008. Right. Which was, you bunch of games at Illinois, at Tulsa, at Oral Roberts, at Kansas. He didn't make his first Final Four until 2008, which was at that point, you're talking about him coaching in the mid to late 90s. You're talking basically a decade plus before he makes the Final Four. It is hard. Sometimes you have to knock at the doorstep before you can get there. So I think Tommy Lloyd's an outstanding coach. He's been able to win with NBA talent going out of the building like year in and year out and readjust the roster. He's worked the portal well. I think Tommy Lloyd plays a super exciting play of basketball where they're running really fast tempo. I think that would be a home run higher if that came to it. Nate Oates at 49 years old, same age as Tommy Lloyd. Same kind of idea here in terms of the

style. This is even faster, although this would get some of the, when you lose games, you're going to get a lot of the, I guess, old man takes, so to speak, where it's like, they just don't play defense. They just run fast, all this stuff. Funny enough, Nato's has actually had some elite defenses at Alabama. This year was not one of them. They had an elite offense, one of the best offenses actually this year in Ken Palm history. I know they finished number two in the country but like at one point they were trending toward being the number one the defense was really bad but like last year they had a top uh five defense in the country so like some of the years that Alabama was really good like they did have that kind of elite defense

under Nate Oates but fun style of play analytics basketball he's obviously done great things with Alabama which is a tough place to win. How much does kind of the off-court stuff matter? It wasn't him who committed the crimes, I guess, but how much does that matter? I don't know. Maybe by the time Bill Self retires, if Nate Oates is still out there, that is less of a conversation because many years have passed. I don't know.

And then there's Matt Painter, which I don't know. This one was close, tier one, tier two to me. Matt Painter is which I don't know. This one was close tier one, tier two to me. Matt Painter is 53 years old. And on one hand, you could say, okay, he just went to his first final four and he has had more years than some of those other guys who've had to knock at the door. But I mean, over his last 18 seasons at Purdue, he's been there 19 years. So the first year was kind of rebuilding year. Over his last 18 seasons at Purdue, Matt Painter has finished top 30 in Ken Palm in 15 of the 18

seasons. And since 2016, so over the last nine seasons at Purdue, he's been Ken Palm top 25 every season. Kansas in that span has been only top 25 in seven of the nine seasons. Now the two they weren't, they're 27. So it was really close, but like point being both programs consistent. They've been top 10 over the last nine seasons in Ken Palm five times. Kansas has been six times. So like he's done a lot with, you know, Purdue, which is like a good basketball program. They have a great fan base and like a great home arena and all that stuff.

And obviously Indiana is very basketball crazed, but it's far from being, you know, one of those top 10, top 15 jobs in the country. Right. And he's done an excellent job with maybe some less talent to a certain degree. The fact that he has made, you know, I mean, if, if, uh, Monday, it was a Monday, uh, Dekite, the kid for Virginia doesn't hit that crazy shot. Purdue might win the national championship that year. And then you're talking about two national title appearances, but like, I think Matt Painter is a great coach. He's always, it's always Bill self and Matt Painter who are like the two coaches where it's like, yeah, they're unbelievable at the after timeout plays. And when you ask other

coaches, you see other coaches talk about other coaches in college basketball. Matt Painter is always thought of very, very fondly. So I know you had the first round loss to the 16 seed and everything like that. And obviously there is a certain stink associated with that, but I do think he is a kind of an excellent basketball coach. So those would be my tier zero and tier one guys. Let's get to tier two and tier three, and then the future tier on this episode of Locked on Jayhawks. First, this episode is brought to you by Yahoo Finance. Wouldn't it be great if you could see all of your investment and retirement accounts in one place. With Yahoo Finance, you can consolidate your views from multiple accounts into one hub and access the expert analysis you need to tend to your entire portfolio with confidence.

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Bill Self just decides to randomly retire. Who's taking over? Who's on the job list for Travis Goff to call up and that sort of thing? And thank you for tuning in and making this part of your day each and every day. Thank you to the everydayers out there. Don't forget to check out. We had a Ryland Griffin deep dive, the Alabama transfer. We had an episode talking about Johnny Furphy declaring for the draft

but maintaining his college eligibility. We had a projecting the starting five. You can find all that on every year podcast here with Locked on Jayhawks. All right, tier two for us. So tier zero was our call them and make them tell you no, but they probably do tell you no. Tier one is this would just be an excellent home run hire. Tier two for me would be this would be a good hire, but it would be like you missed out

on your top candidates. So this would basically be you didn't get your top-tier guy, but you still feel good about the hire. You just were hoping for the big splash. This is like your B, your B-plus on your report card. Mick Cronin from UCLA. This one would be kind of an interesting culture fit. I don't know.

I didn't think this would be a culture fit at UCLA, and he's made it work, right? Maybe even a better culture fit at Kansas. But Mick Cron work. Right. And maybe even a better culture fit at UCLA, but, or at Kansas, but Mick Cronin's 52, this was obviously a really bad year for UCLA. So maybe this is a bad time to bring this up, but it also came off of final four and two sweet 16 seasons and since 2011. So that's 14 seasons between Mick Cronin being at Cincinnati, which is, you know, had some good years under Bob Huggins and under Mick Cronin

and I guess now trying to under Wes Miller and some of these guys, but has never been like a mainstay basketball powerhouse in UCLA. He's been Ken Palm top 38 times of the 14 seasons, and he's been in the top 15, four of those 14 seasons with two top five finishes just since 2018 alone, where he's to uh kind of get it rolling a little bit so he was someone at Cincinnati who actually had like a lot of success made a lot of tournaments but never had like deep runs I think he only had like one or two sweet 16s and then he went to UCLA and now he's made the the second weekend three times already at UCLA in like five or six years so I just think he's a good basketball coach but um not the most exciting

style play plays at a slower tempo. Still, he does typically have shot makers. It's just kind of a slower tempo. Sean Miller at 55 years old, he obviously had the stink with the whole FBI NCAA scandal going on. Well, guess what? So did Kansas. So it's whatever if you bring him on. And heck, if anything, you could just be like, well, he knows adidas well and uh you can make that easy transition there but like he was he was kind of on the same path as bill self in

terms of like what i was saying earlier with bill self before he made that first final four kansas he was the coach who was unbelievable but he just didn't have the final four he was like the best coach without a final four appearance and then he makes you know now he's since made a handful of final fours but um that was Sean Miller. He kept kept getting to the door, knocking at the door. I think he had what, like three elite eights in Arizona and maybe several other like second weekends, but just couldn't get through. And it felt like eventually he was going to. But then the FBI stuff happened. And obviously it looks so stupid now, even more so that we had the FBI spending all this whatever taxpayer money and blah blah blah doing

wiretaps and college basketball coaches with now NIL just being legal and everything but that's a story for another day anyway um he's taken over at Xavier since then and this year was not a great year for them I think they finished like game below 500 though if you look at Ken Palm and you look at like some of their results this year Xavier was actually kind of feisty like they finished 56th on Ken Palm, despite being 16 and 18, because they performed really well in some big games. Like for instance, that ranked them ahead of like James Madison and McNeese state.

And they were only one spot below Oregon and two spots below South Carolina. Like they were actually kind of a decent team, but last year, in his first year, they made the sweet 16. He's just a really good basketball coach. Fred Hoiberg would be the other one. Now this would be one where, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago, he might've been in tier one. Maybe a year ago, he would have been not on this list or tier three or something like that. He's 51 years old. Clearly, there has been a good relationship between Fred Hoiberg and Bill Self. I remember a lot of years

where he wasn't coaching at the time or was wherever that he would come in and like watch practices or give Bill Self, you know, information or, you know, some advice on, on how to do this or that, or he would pick, you know, they would pick each other's brain to help each other, like his coaches and stuff like that. And he has a fun style of play as we know from his time at Iowa state. And now at Nebraska, he obviously knows the big 12. He operates the portal well. He was one of the first adapters of the transfer portal. And now he's guided turnarounds at Iowa State. He really had that thing humming there as, I don't know, you could say maybe the top foil consistently to Kansas. I mean, there's different characters that come up. There's like Oklahoma a few years when it was Blake Griffin or Buddy Heald. There's the early years of the streak where it was Texas and Rick Barnes.

There's some West Virginia teams, Bob Huggins. And then there's the Iowa State teams that he had there. But now he's got to turn around at Nebraska. And the key for this is going to be, can he keep that up? Can he take it to the next level? Can he give Nebraska their first ever NCAA tournament win in the next year or two? But the fact he got that program, which again, has never won a tournament game, even to the tournament and in like an eight, nine matchup shows that he can obviously coach basketball. And I don't think the NBA thing hurts that he can say,

it was in the NBA. Like I can show you what to do. The other one I would put here, this is more of kind of a slashy or a vague thing, but I think it applies the top assistant coach that you deem. And this one's a little bit tougher to see because it's easy for me to go and look at results or look at head coaches at schools that are doing well and figure out this and that. It's a lot harder to know which assistant coaches are well thought of in the coaching community. But keep this in mind. It might sound crazy for Kansas to hire an assistant coach. Was it? They hired Roy Williams, who was an assistant coach, and that worked out very well for Kansas. Heck, Arizona hired hired Tommy Lloyd who we just put in tier one he was an assistant coach at Gonzaga so whoever you deem to be that top assistant coach I have a hankering

of who that would be I feel like it would be Luke Murray at UConn he was the one who developed the game plan in the national title game against Purdue and he's been thought of I've heard about him from several different articles and all sorts of stuff Kamani Young their other assistant very well thought of as well maybe it's one of those guys maybe it's somewhere somewhere else but like don't discount that even because we've even seen that work before at a very high level Roy Williams is a great coach for KU and then tier three this is the wouldn't be a bad hire but it would be a bit underwhelming this is like a C it's like C's get degrees it's like this work, but I'm not like super excited about it, and I don't know that it's going to work near the level of what like

Bill Self or Roy Williams is doing. The first one here is Buzz Williams, who's 51 years old. He was six years at Marquette, went to three Sweet 16s, really good at Marquette operating in the Midwest, also went to an Elite Eight. Then he had two slow years after taking the Virginia Tech job, building that up, and then finished his tenure off at Virginia Tech once he got it rolling with three straight tournament appearances.

That's not a place that goes to the tournament all the time. And then last year, he made the Sweet 16. And, I mean, they missed like a layup at the buzzer to beat that Zion, Williams, and Duke team. Otherwise, they go even further in the tournament. Then he goes to A&M, kind of same path, builds it up the first two years. Now the last three years, he's been Ken Palm top 35 the last three years. And this year, you almost beat Houston in the second round. Very solid coach. I've always heard that there is some sort of good relationship between Kansas and Buzz Williams to some degree. I don't know if it's

from higher ups in the Kansas department or what. I do think he's a good coach. I just don't think he's a great coach, right? And so that's why we have him on a kind of tier three here, but who knows, maybe you go to a school like Kansas and I think Mark Pope, I actually had Mark Pope on tier three when I was writing this up a couple of weeks ago, and then he got the Kentucky job. I think it's one of those things where it's like, well, maybe when you get to the school that has the bigger NIL funds and has the bigger potential for recruiting and the fan base and everything like that, maybe that is enough for you to, cause you've been kind of a floor razor at every program you've been where it

does click and it does kind of work there. I would also, this is a sub tier in tier three, the keep it in the family tier, which I, whenever I put this topic out there, who are the Kansas coaches, there's always going to be some fans who respond out with guys who played at Kansas, right, or whatever. But the problem is there's not the obvious guy. And so you'll hear people be like, well, what about Danny Manning? Okay, what about Danny Manning?

Because I love Danny Manning, would be a great big man coach for KU, the most accomplished player in KU basketball history. He was not a great coach, right? He got let go from Wake Forest for coaching. How are you going to snuff it out at Kansas? Gerard Haas. Again, like, he never made an NCAA tournament at Stanford, and he was there like seven or eight years.

Again, love Gerard Haas, the player, and he's a super nice guy. I know that he donates to certain areas at KU. Like, super nice guy. Really wish him well. He's not the head coach at Kansas. Some of the current assistant coaches, I guess you did see that with like Hubert Davis and John Shire, and we're still kind of trying

to figure out how those are going. I guess early tenures of both have actually been pretty solid there, but I don't feel like there's the obvious one. Maybe you'd say like Jeremy Case or something like that for Kansas, but I don't know, even then, that doesn't feel like a sexy hire.

And then it's like, first of all, the idea that you have to keep it in the family is now Bill self wasn't in the family. Roy Williams wasn't in the family, I guess, technically the tie with Dean Smith and everything like that, but you know, he wasn't a Kansas guy, right? Like just hire the best coach that is, that is, uh, entirely possible. You don't have to keep it in the family. Um, from that standpoint, now the one in the family guy I would consider, and again, to be clear, do not just do this just to do this. We're seeing the repercussions. Juwan Howard just got fired at Michigan. Wheels came off at the end there. Mike Woodson just had a really bad year at Indiana. He's never made a second weekend so far through, what, three years

at Indiana with some really good NBA talent. So this is not something you have to do but Jacques Vaughn is the one name that comes to mind you're 49 years old he's been a coach in the NBA two different stints with the Magic and the Nets and even even if you know you're kind of a failed NBA coach like Rick Pitino was a failed NBA coach one of the greatest college basketball coaches ever John Calipari was a failed NBA coach he's had obviously a lot basketball coaches ever. John Calipari was a failed NBA coach. He's had obviously a lot of success at the college level. The idea that you can say you were an NBA coach and that you played at Kansas,

like that's the one too, where with Jacques Vaughn, knowing he's coming from the NBA, knowing he came from the Roy Williams system, which was an objectively fun system to watch play basketball, I would be more content with that. And yes, you would have the concerns, would he know how to recruit,

handle the transfer portal, handle the NIL era. Those are things that would be very worrisome. But there is a certain level, I do think, of that Kansas can recruit itself and that the boosters and the NIL game will come for Kansas and that if you hire the right assistants, you can make that work. So Jacques Vaughn's the one guy that I would actually consider here as part of the family, but he still wouldn't be like a tier one guy for Kansas. And that if you hire the right assistants, you can make that work. So Jack Vaughn's the one guy that I would actually consider here as part of the family, but he still wouldn't be like a tier one guy for me.

Like if it's using Tommy Lloyd or Jack Vaughn, I'm going with what we kind of know. All right, let's finish up here with the future tier guys to keep an eye on for the future on locked on Jayhawks. First, this episode of the show is brought to you by Monopoly Go. Are you ready for this huge announcement?

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are guys that i don't think you'd want to hire right now but you know if if they keep having success at their current stop or maybe they make another jump up to another school and have success one's to keep an eye on right now the first i'm going to go with this todd golden todd golden was at san francisco which is not an easy place to win since Bill Russell graduated from there. And he took him to the NCAA tournament in year three. That's the only time I can remember in my lifetime that San Francisco has even been to the tournament. Goes to Florida. And by year two, he's a seven seed in the NCAA tournament.

He's analytics based. He plays fast. And he's only 38 years old. If he can get things humming at Florida, keep an eye out on that. Pat Kelsey, 48 years old. He took Winthrop to two tournaments. Would have been three because the COVID year, they had already won their conference tournament. So really three tournaments in nine years. Goes to Charleston, three years there. Back-to-back tournaments the last two years. He gets the job up to Louisville, which seemed like a big jump there. But if he does well at Louisville,

that would obviously be a job that would be tough to pry somebody away from because Louisville has a lot of money. And they're also one of the probably I don't know 10 best maybe jobs in college basketball I'd have to think of that out in my head but point being like they're a very good job like they've won a national title you know and multiple national titles and won very recently in our lifetime or uh-oh NCAA don't come and get me anyway um yeah that would be one to keep an eye on Grant McCasland 47 years old he had a ton of success north texas won a tournament game nit championship parlayed that into the texas tech job where they got a six seed in year one and he adjusts to his players very slow tempo defensive teams

at north texas goes to texas tech they don't have the personnel for it plays more of an up and down spacing guard oriented offense so i think that speaks well to a coach Josh Schertz he's 48 years old was just at Indiana State that was after 13 years at a D2 school Lincoln Memorial where he won 83 percent of his games and 32 and 7 this year at Indiana State he's going to St. Louis he'd have to make another jump up do well at St. Louis make a jump up but that would be one to keep an eye on uh Wes Miller is only 41 years old now not making the tournament in three years at Cincinnati you would like to see that figured out. He did have two tournaments at UNC Greensboro, but he's gone from 101st to 50th to 39th on Ken Palm the past three years at Cincinnati.

So this is the year where it's like, okay, make the tournament, start establishing yourself. Still only 41 years old. Maybe somebody to keep an eye on. North Carolina alum, though. So would you want to get back into the idea of having this really good coach that could end up going to North Carolina one day? Lamont Paris is 49 years old. He is sixth seed at South Carolina, which, I mean, you know, you don't see them in the tournament too often. I know Frank Martin had a couple good years there.

But two years prior to that, he was Silvio DeSosa's coach at Chattanooga when they got a 13 seed. Dusty May, 47 years old, was at Florida Atlantic, obviously now goes to the Michigan job. He has success at Michigan,

becomes a very obvious candidate there. Micah Shrewsbury, 47 years old. He was a longtime Matt Painter assistant. So this is one of those assistants turned really good head coaches who by year two at Penn State,

again, tough place to win, took him to the second round of the tournament. He had a rough year one at Notre Dame, but let's see if he can make that jump in year two. He plays a really open spacing type of offense, though it is a little bit more slower tempo. Amir Abdur-Rahim, 43 years old, took Kennesaw State from a team that went one in 28 his first season season in 2020 wins improved every year by year four. They almost beat Xavier in the first round of the NCAA tournament takes the South Florida job this past year, went 25 and eight and had like the longest winning streak in the country.

At one point, Danny sprinkles, 47, two back-to-back tournaments in Montana state tournament in the lone year, Utah state. Now he's at Washington. Keep an eye there. Bucky McMillan fun style of play at Samford. He's only 40 years old. And Samford actually ended up higher than like Ole Miss with Chris Beard, Duquesne, Yale, USC, Indiana, Miami, UCLA. On Ken Palm this year, he also won 21 games the two seasons prior. That's one where it's like, okay, if he parlays that into like, let's say a lower tier SEC job in a year or two, and then all of a sudden he has success there, like maybe it becomes more viable.

Maybe Drew Valentine was only 32 years old at Loyola Chicago. He can find more success. Bob Ritchie at 41, who's at Furman. They won that tournament game a couple of years ago. Again, if he can get another job after this. Steve Lutz, maybe at Oklahoma State now after he went to tournaments at a couple of different schools, if he has success there.

Ben McCollum, now that he's made the jump up from northwest uh missouri state where he was just like winning every year and now goes uh to the missouri valley like he has success there then makes another jump to maybe a lower tier like you know midwest team or big 12 team or something and then maybe kansas is uh on the range there for for that one so uh those are my candidates should Bill Self retire today. But guess what? The beauty of this is that we do this again next offseason. There's probably going to be some coaches who fall on the list.

There's probably going to be some coaches who move up on the list or who weren't even on the list before. But we'll do that next time and this will get you prepared. If that day does happen, have this episode in your back pocket. All right, that'll do it for this episode

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