Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - Kansas NEEDS Kohl Rosario, Jayden Dawson to SHOOT IT | Off-Ball Guard Preview + Quarterback Overview

Starting point is 00:00:00 The biggest X-factor position group for KU basketball is the off ball guards. They really need shooting from Cole Rosario and Jaden Dawson. We're going to break down that position group and also talk a little quarterbacks. Could Cole Ballard win the QB2 battle? What's Jailen Daniels going to look like this year for KU football? You are Locked on Jayhawks, your daily podcast on the Kansas Jayhawks, part of the Locked on podcast network. your team every day

Starting point is 00:00:32 what's going on derrick johnson here this is locked on jay hawks and thanks for making your first listen every day thank you to the everydayers catch in each and every episode of the show we are free and available anywhere you get your podcast also on youtube where you can like and subscribe to the show and on today's edition of locked on jhawks we have our preview of the off ball guards how important is it for this unit to deliver for k they need three-point shooting and Cole Rosario and Jaden Dawson can certainly be game changers for KU and Rosario certainly can raise the ceiling based on his impact this year for KU. So getting all that and that room preview.

Starting point is 00:01:12 We'll also talk a little quarterback room preview as we get ready for KU football season as Jalen Daniels leads the group. What could he do this year? Who's going to win the backup QB battle between Cole Ballard, Isaiah Marshall, and David McCollum? Before we get to any of that, today's episodes brought to you by Monarch Money. Take control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code locked on college at Monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year. Okay, so we're going to start with a little KU hoops off the top here. And that would be with the off ball position preview for KU. And, you know, we did the lead guard one.

Starting point is 00:01:47 Thank you to the everydayers who already caught that episode. If you haven't already, go back and check it out. So we're going to start this off with potential starters. then we'll move our way into the rest of the players on the roster. Before we do that, though, I'm curious, like, how does this unit compare on paper to last year's unit of off-ball guards? Now, last season, Zeke Mayo, I would classify as an off-ball guard. It doesn't mean that you never, you know, can handle it.

Starting point is 00:02:14 Like, you know, it's just the majority of the time. I would classify Rylan Griffin as an off-ball guard. If you wanted to classify Rylan Griffin as a wing, I could hear the conversation, but based on his level of, like the style of play he wants to do, he's more of an off ball guard than he is a wing. I think you could count Diggie Coit and Shaq Moore if you wanted to as well. But both guys handled it a little bit too.

Starting point is 00:02:38 So it depends what you want to do with those guys specifically. Mainly though, if we talk about the top two, Zeke Mayo and Rylan Griffin. I think the hope would be, I mean, if you're just talking about comparing Rylan Griffin coming in, what he did at Alabama the year before, that he was at Kansas and comparing that to what Jane and Dawson did last year

Starting point is 00:03:00 at Loyola Chicago when Griffin was on a final four team of course Griffin's going to have the higher you know ceiling there we did a comparison earlier in the off season though and we did go through and it was like okay Griffin clearly the better three point shooter but like there were other things that Dawson was a more you know would show he's more of a Bill self type of guy by being a bit more of a complete player if you do compare Ryland Griffin or Jaden Dawson rather, to what Rylan Griffin did in his one year at Kansas, you know, 20.2 minutes per game,

Starting point is 00:03:30 37% from the floor, 33.6% from three on 3.7 attempts per game, 2.1 rebounds per game, 1.4 assists per game, 0.3 steals, 0.3 blocks compared to 0.9 turnovers and 6.3 points per game. All of those numbers are attainable for what Jaden Dawson does this season. like the so in with the hindsight comparison of saying that's what you got from riland griffin of course you think that jaden dawson can give you similar if not better numbers this year for k u um with zeke mayo though that one's a little harder to replace where it's like are you sure you're going to get like 15 points per game and yes zeke you know struggled shooting on the road but he was money in the NCAA tournament he was money at home the overall averages wind up really

Starting point is 00:04:14 efficient on the offensive end yes some questions on the defensive end But overall, like, I don't think Kansas is going to have a Zeke Mayo level impact player from this position group this season. But where it is a little different is I think it's a much more complete position group. You look at Zeke Mayo and yes, as efficient as he was as a score and a great shooter as he was, like Zeke Mayo to me would be an even better fit on this year's team. Because this year's team, I think they have a lot of dogs and they need more three point shooting. on last year's team because of having you know hunter dickinson as you're big you might have needed a little bit more pop on the defensive end um and so i i do think you look at it like if you're looking at the defense side of the ball for zeke meo and ryan griffin and if you did want to add diggy coy into that too that's not a good collection of defensive players whereas for k u with jaden dawson and cole rosario and even if you you know we want to go further down with like jimari mcdowell i don't view any of those guys as being like bad to defenders. Like, Cole Rosario, okay, we'll see how it trains like because a lot of times guys can struggle defensively their freshman season. But like his stats that he's put up at OTE show that he

Starting point is 00:05:20 clearly wants to hustle and try hard and he's clearly a good athlete with good size. Jayden Dawson's been known as being a solid defender. Um, Jemar McDowell is somebody who's going to give effort on the defensive end and has, you know, decent size for a guard. So you look at all that and it's a bit more complete there. Um, but again, the production will probably be definitely different. It's also different because Zik Mayo became your primary perimeter or scorer, whereas the guys in the offball group this year are going to be asked to be more complimentary pieces to Darren Peterson doing just that, right? So if we talk potential starters here, Jaden Dawson obviously goes into that, 6'4, 195 pounds,

Starting point is 00:05:58 transfer from Loyola, Chicago, who has been a really solid team in the A10. I know they haven't been going back to the tournament like we've seen in all those years that Porter Mosier brought them and stuff, but like they've still been really solid. They won over 20 games last year in the A10, which, you know, which is, you know, one of the better mid-major conferences that is out there. Three years of Loyola, Chicago really took off his last two years there. And this past season was his best as a junior at Loyola, Chicago, 13.9 points per game, 3.1 rebounds per game, 1.9 assists per game, one steel per game,

Starting point is 00:06:27 0.6 blocks per game. He shot 41% from the field, 36.3% from 3. That was on 7.4 attempts per game. We talk about this a lot. More attempts you get up, the more impressive that number becomes. And also about 74% at the free 3%. line. What makes some of those numbers even more impressive, though, is the fact that Loyola Chicago is not a team that, you know, plays at a very fast pace. Their 207th, they were in

Starting point is 00:06:51 the country and tempo. So slightly on the slower side, right? You may be played a little bit faster pace or more of a neutral pace. Like, maybe that goes up to 15 points per game or something like that. And so Dawson so far becomes interesting because I guess the, the talk hasn't been that like he's blown things away so far and you can come back in the fall and all of a sudden the light switches on like maybe you didn't get it all together in the summer and maybe you will have it all together in the fall so that'll be the hope with how this thing works so when you look at the position and the role on the team i think position wise you're looking at in playing the two and the three for k u i think a lot of minutes at the three knowing that

Starting point is 00:07:34 if you have two of Peterson, Jackson, and counsel on the floor at all times, there are going to be times or all three of them are on the floor, but times or at least two of them, those are your one and two. So therefore, Dawson becomes your three on a team that doesn't have a lot of true wings. But the role on the team, regardless of how many minutes that is, is one of the team's best three point shooters. Again, you're talking over 36% from three on high volume. If you're just looking at him scaling down his role a little bit,

Starting point is 00:08:00 and ideally getting more open shots being not the primary guy, like he was in the Loyola Chicago offense, you would hope that, okay, maybe it drops down to three, four, five, three point times per game, but maybe the number goes up to 38%. Then again, maybe you have to count for, okay, jump in competition. Maybe it's 36 or 37%. But you would take that and that would be one of the best three-point shooters on the team. And ideally, he's a strong three-and-dea play, right?

Starting point is 00:08:22 He's been known as at least being a solid level of defender. But I think the role depends on what I'm about to talk about. I think the ceiling outcome here for Jaden Dawson is he does put it together in fall and leading up to the start of the season and that he's a starter that he ends up starting over one of El Marco Jackson or Melvin Council and part of that would be about fit that he becomes the better three-point shooter

Starting point is 00:08:46 and the better compliment to the rest of the roster and maybe that even comes a month or two in the season. Maybe he's coming off the bench at the beginning of the year by the time you get to January, his three-point shooting can't be taken out of the starting lineup similar to what happened with Isaiah Moss. Now Moss was not in the starting lineup at the beginning of the year because he was hurt

Starting point is 00:09:02 and had to battle through some things, but by the time we hit, you know, the thick of Big 12 play, Isaiah Moss is playing big minutes and is one of the starters on the team and they needed his three-point shooting to balance out with, you know, Dotson and Doak, not being guys who are spacing the floor at insanely high level, even though both of them were dynamic at getting two-point shots. So I could see that being the case with, with Jayden Dawson here as well. I think the most likely outcome right now, I think at this point is coming off the bench. Like if I'm predicting the starting lineup, it is counsel.

Starting point is 00:09:32 Jackson in there at this point in time for KU. But I still think it could be 15, 18, 20 minutes per game for Dawson coming off the bench, being at least an average to solid defender on the defensive end, still being one of the better three-point shooters. I think the floor outcome here would have to involve just Cole Rosario beat him out, you know, whether that's now or later in the season. So let's get to Cole Rosario on the other side here, here on Locked on Jayhawks. This episode of LOJ is brought to you by Monarch Money. Most people can't name all their financial accounts or even what they're worth, whether it's 401Ks, properties or investments, and when you don't have the full picture, you can end up leaving money on the table. That's why there's Monarch money.

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Starting point is 00:11:14 Also, don't forget to check out. We did an episode bonus show talking about David Booth's $300 million gift to KU Athletics. So make sure to check that one out on a recent episode. We're going to be talking plenty more with KU Football, KUPS coming up. So make sure you subscribe to the show as well here with Locked on Jayhawks. And we'll get to the quarterback room preview in just a second here. So one big question for Jaden Dawson, I think is going to be, it's not just okay, can he beat out, you know, one of El Marco Jackson or Melvin Council to start and what does the impact of his shooting into fit mean for the potential starting lineup or KU's best five at the end of the day?

Starting point is 00:11:50 It's also, can he hold off a guy like Cole Rosario? And a guy like Cole Rosario, maybe he holds him off at the beginning of the year because he has more experience. But maybe the time we do get later in the year, the experience starts to catch up for Cole Rosario, the athleticism, the potential that he provides. What if he does end up usurping Jaden Dawson? And then what if Cole Rosario is the guy that is being talked about as could he be in the starting lineup or at the very least is he KU's first bench guard who is providing the most three-point shooting for Kansas? And so I think Cole Rosario becomes a potential starter who also is a wide range guy, potential starter, potential first guard off the bench,

Starting point is 00:12:28 to literally end of the rotation slash not playing. There's a very wide range that could happen here and year one for Cole Rosario in Kansas. So he's a 6 foot 5, 185 pound freshman coming over from OTE, where if you add up his regular postseason and Adidas next gen tournament games, all of it together, 15.1 points per game, 5.1 rebounds per game, 1.9 assists per game, 1.9 steals per game, 0.7 blocks per game. So good defensive numbers there. and, you know, what can be a bit of an unorganized affair in OTE,

Starting point is 00:13:02 45.3% from the floor, 30.6% from three and 81.6% of the foul line. Now, there is a bit of projection on the three-point shot. There have been some games where he's really been on, but you're talking about somebody who shot 30.6% for three. Now, it's on very high volume. So, again, the hope is with that scaled down, getting better shots, as opposed to maybe having to take eight a game with OTE. You know, you would think that's going to help it a little bit,

Starting point is 00:13:25 another year of progression and shooting. that should hopefully help it a little bit, but I think he's going to be more of a streaky shooter as a younger player. And so I think it's similar a bit the ceiling and floor that Jaden Dawson brings, where, you know, I think the ceiling outcome here is the ceiling is he ends up being this really good athlete who Bilself loves by his hustle plays, his rebounding from the guard position, he loves his athleticism in transition, and then he has a guard that can throw down a dunk and that he is providing three-point shooting and eventually k u decides that hey

Starting point is 00:14:00 instead of having melvin council and el marco and daren peterson we need another shooter in there right and they decide hey cole rosario is really coming on it's january february we're going to get him in the starting lineup that's the ceiling outcome here and i guess the ultimate ceiling outcome is i know there's some NBA draft people that that really like the potential of col rosario right and now if you're talking the most likely outcome i think right now you would still say okay maybe Dawson is ahead of Rosario. I don't know. Maybe that's a closer competition than you might think.

Starting point is 00:14:29 But if he beats out Dawson, then at that point it probably makes you the first guard off the bench, which depending how you view the first center off the bench, likely Paul Mbia, that makes you the sixth or seventh man in that scenario. If he doesn't beat out Dawson, though, then that means you become the basically eighth or ninth man where you were in competition with Smeese Calderon, Bryson Tiller for the last rotation spot. And those are different positions. Those are different players to partially depend on what lineup Bill Self wants to throw out there, how he would want to play in that given game or given matchup or if he just wants to go with the guys he trusts. But that's

Starting point is 00:15:09 why it's such a wide range for Cole Rosario. You can see a path where because of his three-point shooting and potential in athleticism, he does perform well and have that Johnny Furfee moment where all of a sudden in January he is in the starting lineup. You can also see a world where he's just the sixth man and he does beat out Jaden Dawson. You can also see a world where he's the eighth man and he's just coming off the bench for 12, 15, 10 minutes a game and shooting threes. You can also see a world where, you know, Samis Calderon or Bryson Tellers ahead of him in the rotation and he's just playing spot minutes. It's a very, very wide range for a Cole Rosario could do. And that's why he represents one of the biggest X factors on the team.

Starting point is 00:15:43 If you get a good performance and good three-point shooting from Rosario, it could possibly take you to the next level. Now, the next guy is more of an end of the bench depth piece. That would be Jamari McDowell, 6'480-pound redshirt sophomore. Last year, he redshirted year before, 7.2 minutes per game as a true freshman, 1.8 points, 1.2 rebounds, half a block, or half an assist, excuse me, 0.3 stocks per game, 31% from the floor, 28 from 3, 84 at the foul line. I think the role on the team for him, more developmental, two guard for KU with a, you, he would have to beat out one of Dawson or Rosario with experience. And then he'd probably have to beat out a guy like Ginnu and Gala to be ahead of him too.

Starting point is 00:16:27 So it's a long road for McDowell, but you want guys like this at the end of your bench that can be programmed guys, that can be good locker room guys. And I think he can do just that. So I think the ceiling outcome for McDowell is he does spike and he beats out one of those guys and he's playing eighth man minutes. I think the most likely outcome is he is the end of bench guy. He is your whatever that would be 10th or 11th man on the team.

Starting point is 00:16:47 I think it's just really hard for him to get on the floor with how many guards that KU has when you just look at having Darren Peterson, Marco Jackson, Melvin Council, Colorsario, Jaden Dawson. Again, if he can beat those two guys out, that's where the ceiling outcome comes into play. But that's going to be tough with all those guards who are seemingly good players, talented players for KU.

Starting point is 00:17:09 So I think a good season for Jemar McDowell, if he could even get fringe minutes that would set him up to be a rotation player even more so the following year, like that would be really nice but again you need players like this like I said and you know I do respect guys who want to stay and work on it and try to get better and maybe that's what will happen this offseason for Jemar McDowell you know it's not like this kid was it's not like he was like a two-star recruit he was still a pretty highly recruited player that like could obviously develop into something that happens for guys sometimes so I hope that would be the case because

Starting point is 00:17:41 seems like somebody who people in the locker room definitely like now if you wanted to add guys like El Marco or Council or Gala in Gala into the conversation because they could be playing minutes technically at the two or three. I would understand from walk-on perspective, you have while they're Evers, you have a little thankful, but I don't think we need to get too much into the weeds on that one. All right, let's switch over to KU football with the quarterback room preview. What's Jalen Daniels going to do this year and who's going to win QB2? Thanks for joining us on Locked on Jayhawks.

Starting point is 00:18:16 room for Kansas is one that Jim Zabrowski said, the quarterback's coach for KU and co-offensive coordinator is one of the best rooms that he's had. And that is high praise given that you had Jason Bean and Jalen Daniels in the same quarterback room. Now, we all know there's always that recency bias that we're all kind of victims to. But you look at this room and I can see it from a perspective of the depth of saying, hey, we have a sixth year guy in Jayland Daniels. We have a player who I think is overperforming expectations in Cole Ballard who has some game experience, big game experience, honestly, for KU. We have two, you know, nearly four-star freshmen, in the case of Marshall, a redshirt freshman, quarterbacks that are competing

Starting point is 00:19:05 with them that just bring a lot of talent into the room. And it's just a very talented overall and deep quarterback room for KU football. Now, I don't know if I'm picking it over like the Bean and Daniels one, but I guess part of that will just depend on Daniels performance this year. So if we look at the starter, going through the depth chart, it's Jalen Daniels, unquestioned starter here, redshirt senior. The only thing that would knock him out would be an injury, which you hope not would be the case.

Starting point is 00:19:32 Obviously last year, he played the full season, and that was great to see. You hope that continues into this year. It still obviously is in a lot of KU fans' mind, in the back of their mind, though, of like, oh, what if we get back to being, you know, the fully great Jayland Daniels, the guy we saw of the last seven games last year, the guy we saw in 2021 at the end of the year in 2022 and 23. What if we get back to that? But then he gets injured again, right?

Starting point is 00:19:53 That would just be horrible and you hope that does not happen. The first career, you're looking at somebody who has the second most passing yards, second most passing touchdowns in KU history. He is too far behind Todd Reesning and both to cash him this year, but five rushing touchdowns as well from the top 10 on that list, although Daniel Hyshaw could jump into that, too. So it might need an extra one on top of it. But there's a chance he could finish second in passing touchdowns

Starting point is 00:20:17 and top 10 in rushing touchdowns all the time at Kansas. That would be quite the feat for Jalen to accomplish at KU. The big question for me, for Jalen is just honestly the health. I know there is the question of which Jalen are we going to see. The closer we get to the season, the less I'm having that question because he's participating in fall camp. He got to throw to his receivers in the summer. I think the comfortability with Jim Zabrowski, I think, his type of offense that he's going to run for him.

Starting point is 00:20:43 I think the receiver is having more yard after catch ability. I'm not actually that concerned about Jalen Daniels level of play. Now, maybe in the back of my mind, I'm a little more concerned about, you know, some of the turnover stuff after some of the interceptions last year. But like, honestly, I think we're going to see a good version of Jalen Daniels. I just want them to stay healthy, especially knowing that the offensive line could, you know, it has a little bit more questions than it has the last couple years for K. But I am expecting big things from Jalen Daniels and KU needs him to have, you know, arguably his best season. Like, can you do what you have done in small sample sizes over the big sample and be that big 12 player of the year caliber player?

Starting point is 00:21:21 Like that's kind of the big question here. Now, the two deep battle is very interesting as well. Who is going to be the backup quarterback for KU? Now, ideally against Fresno State, you get up enough that you get to see it and you get to throw the backup in there. It's only about a two touchdown spread, though. I don't know that I'm expecting KU to run away with it. You're looking to the second game, week one, against Wagner, where you would ideally be able to put your backup quarterback in,

Starting point is 00:21:45 maybe as soon as the start of the second half. It'll be very interesting to see who that quarterback is, and it feels like right now Cole Ballard has the edge up, the leg up. Redshirt sophomore, Cole Ballard. You have Isaiah Marshall as a redshirt freshman. David Newcomb is a true freshman. Now, maybe if McComb was sitting in Marshall's case, if he had the earneders bell, the redshirt,

Starting point is 00:22:03 maybe McComb would usurp both of them. Who knows? It seems like he maybe. even has the, I don't know, the highest potential long term for what KU could get out of that quarterback room. But it does feel like for this year, the backup quarterback job is going to be one of those two with Marshall or Cole Ballard. And with Marshall, you get a little bit more talent, running ability, athleticism. But it feels like with Ballard, you maybe get a little bit more consistency. And that's one of the things that this coachings have harps on and cares about

Starting point is 00:22:32 a ton. They want consistency. And to a certain degree, like, That's why you, like, there are certain players who are gamers and they're not the best practice players because they are a little more inconsistent in practice. Sometimes they're just testing things. Other times, I don't know, maybe, I don't know what it is. But it's just like, you can't have that same focus. There are stories about Todd Riesing being not a very good practice player when he was the KU quarterback. And that was part of the reason why he wasn't the starter to, you know, begin.

Starting point is 00:23:07 the season. Eventually he takes over, right? Jason Bean was the starter for the staff over Jalen Daniels in 2021. And I don't know if that's because, you know, is the same thing. It's entirely possible. I could see Isaiah Marshall being one of those gamers that, you know, maybe Cole Ballard is more consistent day to day in practice, but, you know, that'll kind of be the big question. Now, it's also possible. I know some people get worried if Cole Ballard ends up ahead of Isaiah Marshall on the depth chart and from a standpoint of would it lead Isaiah Marshall to eventually transfer out yeah that probably would be a worry but I also don't know like that to me feels like a decision that Isaiah Marshall would probably wait to make till the end

Starting point is 00:23:49 of spring ball in I guess that would be you know the spring of 2026 because at that point you've competed with him over the spring but I guess if he's the backup all year and doesn't feel like he's baking inroads he'll have a better judge of that than than somebody else And so that would be a huge loss and feel like I got punched for KU. But at the same point in time, if you lost somebody because somebody else just beat them out, you tip your cap to the current player now. Like you want competition in a program. You want the player who emerges victorious in that competition.

Starting point is 00:24:21 And there's plenty of time for Marshall to beat out Cole Ballard, you know, even if it's not at the beginning of the season in week six or something like that, you know, or later in the year. That's definitely a possibility. But I do think Cole Ballard gets undersold a little bit. I think too often we cling to the idea of, oh, he's a former walk-on. And so, like, oh, this other kid is a near four-star recruit. Like, you know, that's an indictment of the development.

Starting point is 00:24:45 And yet, well, why is it an indictment of the development that the four-star kid isn't working out when we see all the time four-star kid. I mean, shoot, man, look at like Dane Christ and Jake Heaps at Kansas. We see those kids flame out all the time. You know what else we see? We see kids like Rocco-Bect. We see kids like Brock Purdy. I don't know why I'm just going with Iowa State examples here. We see kids like Carter Stanley at Kansas develop into something,

Starting point is 00:25:10 even if they're not the highest level recruits at the quarterback position at the collegiate game. So maybe Cole Ballard is just Rocco-Bect. You know what I mean? Like maybe he should have had a scholarship from somebody to begin with. And maybe everybody just screwed up. Josh Allen's only scholarship out of, I forget if you went to community college or not, or it was out of high school, regardless, it was Wyoming.

Starting point is 00:25:30 People screw this thing up all the time. People develop later. Some people develop when they're 16. some people develop when they're 20 or 19 you know so to me it's not an indictment and if cole ballard wins the job good on him and i'm going to start reading and do it as cole ballard is better than we kind of think and i'm going to view it from the positive perspective but like i said it would still i think be an open competition throughout the year and david mccall might end up being the guy you know with with a year under his belt so he would be the future guy to watch um and then you also

Starting point is 00:25:56 have uh mikey polly on the roster to continue the the depth as a redshirt junior so um yeah i think It's just, who's going to be QB2? What Jalen Daniels do we get? Can you stay healthy? And I just hope it all comes together for J.D. and this KU football team and KU football roster. All right, that'll do it for this episode of Lockdown Jayhawks. You can find our show anywhere you get your podcast, including on our YouTube page

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