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Starting point is 00:00:28 Thank you that every day is catching each and every episode of the show. We are free and available anywhere. You get your podcast, which includes on YouTube where you can like and subscribe to the show. And on today's edition of Locked On J-Hawks, we've got a another transfer portal target for KU basketball. That would be one key Sean Hall, who certainly got the attention of KU fans and how he played against the Jayhawks. And he played them three times early the last two matchups they played again. So we're gonna get a deep dive into

Starting point is 00:00:57 his game. How exactly would he fit into KU was there on the chase to try to bring Hall onto the roster for next season. So we're gonna get into Hall's scouting report, his strengths, maybe the questions about his game, how exactly what he fit into the team. And then we'll finish up with where does he kind of sit in line right now in terms of players you would take in the transfer portal or is it a wait? Is it a take right away? Those sorts of things on today's episode of the show. Let's start right here with information on Keyshawn Hall.

Starting point is 00:01:26 And again, you got to see him up close and personal three times this season against Kansas, one of which was not a great game for really the entire team for UCF that game in Orlando in which Kansas won 99 to 48. That was about as good as Kansas looked all season long and Hall in that game had is still 12 points, which I guess looking back on it like it was not about as good as can just looked all season long and haul in that game had is still 12 points, which I guess looking back on it, like it was not efficient at all. Four of 17. That was not a good game for him. But like in a game where they scored 48 points, they couldn't do anything. I mean, he had 25% of that that still ends up if that's like your worst game, I guess that's not

Starting point is 00:02:00 the worst thing in the world. But he was on a tear to kind of finish the season. He had a game against West Virginia in which he had six points in the regular season finale. But besides that, he scored double figure points in all but let's see one game from December 14 on it's six against Houston. Okay, makes sense six against West Virginia. The rest of them he's scoring double figures and you know, from December 21 on you're talking 2122 January 11 against Arizona 22 more he scores 40 points against Arizona State 26 against TCU 34 in Allenfield

Starting point is 00:02:38 house against Kansas 20 against BYU 23 against Cincinnati 19 against Baylor 22 against Iowa State 19 against Baylor, 22 against Iowa State, 19 Colorado, 34 Colorado, Oklahoma State, 26 Kansas State, 23 Utah, 25 Kansas in the Big 12 tournament. This is a guy who can really score the basketball. Now, we'll get into more about his game here. But overall, he is a six foot seven, 235 pound wing. The 235 pounds allows him to play as primarily a four UCF. Actually you might be thinking, Oh, this guy's a wing. Like he's a four that maybe can play some of the three. And I think he can play some of the three,

Starting point is 00:03:15 but I think you mostly want him playing as a four, but here's what's even better about it. UCF even had, it was a very small amount of time, but you look at their last five games, about 6% of their center minutes went to Keishon Hall at the five. So like this is a guy who realistically, if you really wanted to,

Starting point is 00:03:31 and I don't think Bill Self wants to play this way, but in a pinch, or if you wanted to throw out like an all offensive lineup, you could throw him out there at a five. His ability to have strength and rebound allows you to do that. But realistically, I think this is a four in KU system. And I think there are some, maybe some fun similarities you could have a little bit

Starting point is 00:03:49 with Jalen Wilson, if we're being completely honest. I'm not going to say he's better than Jalen Wilson or he's on the same par to Jalen Wilson has turned into an NBA player, has had a nice career in Jalen Wilson. I don't know, is he going to get his jersey retired at KU national champion, all American in his last year, multiple time, all big 12.

Starting point is 00:04:05 I would have to dig into it a little bit more, but I'm thinking you have his Jersey retired. He's the first team all American, right? So assuming that Jalen Wilson has his all American, you know, stuff retired his last season at Kansas. This is what he did. And albeit that was for one seed and Hall did this on a UCF team

Starting point is 00:04:22 that missed the NCAA tournament. But Wilson's final season at Kansas, he was 43% from the floor. Keishon Hall this past season at UCF 42.7% right? When you're the go to option, your efficiency is going to drop a little bit. That's not bad efficiency. It's just not you know, great efficiency either. But the reason why is you're the guy who has to take the tough shot. So it's going to go down. Jalen Wilson's three point percentage the area's first team All American in Kansas 33.7%

Starting point is 00:04:48 he shot all 35.4% now Wilson was taking two more threes per game than he was. Wilson 79.9% at the foul line he shot all 81.6% Wilson was getting a five and a half free throw attempts per game. He shot all last year UCF averaged 7.4. If you're looking at effective field goal percentage, kind of an amalgamation of all your shooting percentages, basically, Keisha Hall last year was 47.8%. Jalen Wilson is last year, Kansas 49%, a little bit better. If we look at true shooting percentage, Keisha Hall, though,

Starting point is 00:05:19 was better 55.8% last year UCF. Jalen Wilson 54%. Again, it's different for Jalen Wilson, because you're talking about somebody on the one seed. Wilson also was you know, 20.1 points for him 8.3 rebounds as good as Hall's number one, a little bit short on that 18.8 point 7.1 rebounds, but it's close the assist numbers 2.2 for Wilson 2.4 for Keishon Hall, the steel numbers

Starting point is 00:05:42 Jalen Wilson point nine steals per game Keishon Hall point eight steals numbers, Jalen Wilson, 0.9 steals per game, Keishon Hall, 0.8 steals per game, the block numbers, 0.5 blocks per game for both guys. So I don't say this again, I'm not saying this to be sacrilegious and say that Keishon Hall is the second coming of Jalen Wilson. I just think there's a lot of similarities in their games in terms of saying, okay, we've seen that type of player

Starting point is 00:06:02 work well for Bill Self. And I do think Keish Holt is a very good player that does have potential to become an all big 12 first team level player if he is with Bill Self at Kansas. Now, this is a guy who's been at three different colleges. And that is something I'm a little bit wary of. After like the AJ store stuff. He was at UCF before that George Mason before that he was at UNLV. That is a little bit scary in today's day and age.

Starting point is 00:06:24 And you don't know what that you know means. Is it just kind of been the wrong situation wrong time each and every time? Entirely possible, right? But this is a very good basketball player. I just went over some of his numbers there. And when you look at the strengths of Keyshott Hall's game, like I said, kind of making some comparisons to Jalen Wilson, this power wing is a four. He creates points for his offense is the best way that I can kind of put that four. He creates points for his offense, is the best way that I can kind of put that succinctly. Creates points for his offense.

Starting point is 00:06:49 And he does that in different ways. Drives to the rim at a very high level. A lot of times if you have maybe more of a power forward, traditional power forward on him, he's going to outspeed that player to the rim. If you have, and we saw that when Kansas played him, right? When Kansas played him and you're playing Flory and Hunter at the four and five,

Starting point is 00:07:08 he was actually able to kind of outmaneuver Flory in that way. But you also saw him have the ability to use his strength, right? He could go through the body of a Flory bedoom guy. He can go through the body if you're playing more of a, a six foot six, six foot seven wing, because he's got that 235 pounds of strength.

Starting point is 00:07:23 When he was playing Kansas, the only guy who was really able to check him for KU was KJ Adams. And you know why? Because he was the guy who could hold up to him physically and with the strength. Well, you don't have to, you know, worry about that on most teams that you're playing against a guy like that at the forward position. So that makes him a matchup nightmare for a lot of different teams. Makes sense though, when you look at

Starting point is 00:07:42 him having that six point game against Houston, because what do they have? They have very physical four and five men, right? But that makes them a matchup nightmare in most matchups because a lot of teams in today's day and age either have a smaller wing at the four where they're playing that traditional power forward where he can out speed you.

Starting point is 00:07:57 So it allows him to drive to the rim. He is in the 95th percentile in paint points per 40 minutes. He gets the free throw at a ton by driving to the rim. 94th percentile in free throw attempt rate. Also 99th percentile in player fouls drawn per 40 minutes. So it's not always a shooting foul. He's getting the other team in foul trouble a lot. That is a valuable skill to have.

Starting point is 00:08:18 And I think that shows his reckless abandon, so to speak, about driving to the rim, which it's fun to have those players. It just is. His fast break presence, which you have this strong, so to speak, about driving to the rim, which it's fun to have those players. It just is his fast break presence, which you have this strong, powerful physical wing. Of course, those players are going to be good in transition. Well, you look at his fast break and he 90th percent out and fast break points for per 40 minutes.

Starting point is 00:08:38 Then you look at it. He's a solid three-point shooter, right? I wouldn't say he's an elite three-point shooter, but he's a good three-point shooter. I mean, you're talking about almost four attempts for game over 35% from three point range this season. If you just look at Kansas as an individual or as a team this year, they shot 35.4%.

Starting point is 00:08:56 That was 87th in the country. So he's just right in line to kind of keep that going, except then you start to factor in that, oh, well, Kansas is getting no three-point shooting from their forward position this year. So that would be a huge increase to have a guy like this at the four, but 37.1% on above the break threes. That was 73rd percentile for his position. A little bit lower in the corner, 31%,

Starting point is 00:09:17 which is below average, but it's also not horrible either. This also sticks out to me because you don't always see this from like power wings like he is. 36.8% on threes of 25 or more feet. We saw Zeke Mayo be able to carry that over to Kansas with Ryland Griffin. It didn't really as much. If it does carry over with a guy like Keishon Hoff, you're able to get him to KU. That is a huge boon to be able to add spacing.

Starting point is 00:09:41 And does it overall 73rd percentage true shooting percentage. So he's doing it on, like I said, it's it's solid efficiency, and he's doing it on high volume, which makes it more impressive, right? You don't very often see guys with high volume being the 90th percentile for the efficiency numbers. The fact he's even 73rd shows how much of an offensive talent is also an excellent rebounder. I know that's a worry for some people that like, oh, you know, AJ

Starting point is 00:10:04 store was a good score. And that didn't translate over to people that like, oh, AJ Storr was a good scorer and that didn't translate over to kids. Okay, but he didn't really do anything else besides score. That's not the case with Keyshawn Hall. Like you look at Keyshawn Hall's assist numbers, way different than AJ Storr. And this is the big one, it's the rebounding. If you're rebounding the basketball,

Starting point is 00:10:18 Bilsoff's gonna keep you on the floor, right? Brady Dick was an inconsistent defender. Johnny Furphy was an inconsistent defender. But they were staying on the floor. Now those teams were not like the deepest teams in the world, but they were staying on the floor, right? Rady Dick was an inconsistent defender, Johnny Furfee was an inconsistent defender. But they were staying on the floor. Now those teams are were not like the deepest teams in the world, but they're staying on the floor because their offense and the rebounding Can you do something else besides score to stay on the floor? He shot all does it 91st percentile in offensive rebound rate turns

Starting point is 00:10:37 that into a lot of second chance points to on put backs and 91st percentile in defensive rebounding rate for his position. So very good rebounder here. Now, what are the questions for Kishan Al? The turnovers is one of them, 41st percentile. So I guess below average there in turnover rate, only 17th percentile in assist to turnover rate. He actually does have good assist numbers, you know, over two per game,

Starting point is 00:10:58 but just too many turnovers. Now, how much of that is just, you know, he's trying to carry a UCF team that was at one point a bubble team. They still finished with a winning record 18 and 16 and a very difficult big 12, but he kind of had to carry them in a lot of ways. And you know, in a role where Darren Peterson's on the floor with you at Kansas next year, if you come to KU, I would imagine some of those turnover numbers go down.

Starting point is 00:11:21 But it does tell me that at least the assist numbers are up. Like if you have the option between a guy who is not a point, if you're if he's a point guard, yes, I want the turnover numbers to be down. But if he's not a point guard and you're telling me the assist numbers are up and the turnover numbers are up, at least that tells you that he's a willing passer. Maybe he just does it too much sometimes. Maybe he just, you know, gets a little too too flashy with it or something like that. But I feel like you can hone that in a little bit better than somebody who's just getting no assist, but they're not

Starting point is 00:11:47 getting the turnovers either, I guess, I don't know. And then the efficiency at the rim is another question here. 42nd percentile in two point percentage, he was 56% at the rim, which was 39th percentile, which is also his percentile in the paint. So can he get a little bit better at finishing at the rim? He was also not very good on mid-range, only 25.6% on mid-range shots. That's 31st percentile. The other question is the defense here. 45th percentile in Hakeem rate.

Starting point is 00:12:17 UCF was not a good defense, 106th in the country. How much does he have to do with that? I don't know that I view him as like a great defender, but I think is a six foot seven powerful wing like, you know, maybe getting to do a little bit less on the offensive end but still doing a good amount with Darren Peterson out there like can you hone in and be at least an average defender like

Starting point is 00:12:40 that Hakeem rate is at least right around average. I don't think he's like a problem on the defensive end. I just don't think he's great defender. But I think the rebounding, which is part of defense, finishing out a defensive possession, you have to grab the rebound, does keep him out there. And like I kind of talked about with Grady Nick and Johnny Furphy. All right. What would his fit be on KU?

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Starting point is 00:14:23 You know, you look at the the best Bill self teams, there's a lot of things those teams have in common, a lot of identities they have. When you're looking at it from personnel perspective, really two things come to mind, typically for me. It's a good point guard who can get a basket, right. And it's a I guess you'd call it a matchup nightmare at the fort, right. And I can come in different ways, you know, Daryl Arthur, matchup nightmare, right? How do you guard that

Starting point is 00:14:51 dude? You go to I guess in the very first year, Bill Self is going to the Elite Eight, right? Wayne Simien, matchup nightmare, right? You go to Perry Ellis, he was a matchup nightmare, right? It was to the elite eight, his final season. You look at maybe some of the newer years where it was a wing, Josh Jackson at the four, a match of nightmare, Jalen Wilson at the four, a match of nightmare.

Starting point is 00:15:13 Sometimes when Kansas was playing DeJuan, Remy Martin, Ocha Gbaji, and then Christian Brown at the four, Christian Brown, match of nightmare at the four, right? Those are some of the best teams that the Kansans had. And so can you have a match of nightmare on the offensive end of the floor? I mean, Keishon Hall would be just that. And so obviously, the big question is, would he defend enough and do the little things Bill Self needs to get him on the court?

Starting point is 00:15:34 But like I said earlier, when you look at some players, it's to me, it's less like, yes, Bill Self is going to require you to play defense and he's getting mad and he might pull you if you're not playing defense. But I think where people confuse it is they think if you're not a good defender, if you're a below average defender, you're just not going to be on the court. But there are guys at Kansas who have been below average defenders or have been average defenders, but they stay on the court because they do multiple things when they are out there. The problem you run into is if you're a bad defender and you only do one thing. For instance, Brandon Green,

Starting point is 00:16:06 not a good defender. Now there was, you know, Bill Self Doghouse implications on the line with that one too. He was just a good three point shooter. Unbelievable three point shooter, but like, yeah, that's a problem. You're not going to stay out there, right? Because if the three point shots not falling, what else are you bringing to the table? And that's kind of the difference here with Keyshawn Hall that AJ Storr and Rland Griffin didn't have this past season, right? When Ryland Griffin or AJ Storr gave up a defensive issue, and let's say they're not shooting it or scoring it at a high level that game, it's like, okay, what are you bringing to the table?

Starting point is 00:16:38 Collectively, Storr and Griffin came in averaging, what, like five, six rebounds per game at their previous stops. Keishon Hall averaged over seven rebounds per game for UCF over the 90th percentile in both offensive and defensive rebounding rate. The fact that he does that alone tells you that he would be able to stay on the court. So I am not actually worried about this fit. And I know a lot of people are spurned about how these last two years have gone in the transfer portal. And I think you have a right to feel that way. You do.

Starting point is 00:17:05 But I'm just asking you to try to look at this without that lens. Try to look at this through a lens because what other option do we have? It might be right that Bill Self just isn't a portal coach. I don't know. But at least let's give it a chance on this go around.

Starting point is 00:17:23 It's a different crop of players, the fresh roster roster Darren Peterson. Let's see what can happen here. And everything about Keishon Al tells me that he should be a fit with Bills self. He's perfect for the modern game of the four, for sure starter for me. Yes, you could have the next question would be probably, would it work with, oh, he needs the ball in his hands. This is what I don't understand.

Starting point is 00:17:45 You go through a whole season where it's like, oh man, KU doesn't have enough players who can score with the ball in their hands. And then it's like, oh, they have one player who needs the ball in his hands. Darren Peterson. Can anybody else have the ball in their hands? It's like, no, there is room for multiple players.

Starting point is 00:17:59 The analogy I made earlier to you look at a lot of the big threes in the NBA, whether it was LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, right? That's the one I'm going to right now. But like, there's usually room for two of those guys to have a lot of success. Right. Right now with Phoenix, they tried it with Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal and Devin Booker. Go look at Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. They're still getting theirs.

Starting point is 00:18:20 They're still producing with two of those dominant ball handlers on the ball. Bradley Beal's numbers have dropped off. Chris Bosh's numbers dropped off, right? They're still impactful, but it's like the usage in the drop off cups. So the third on ball players, the one who suffers. You need to, you can have to, because guess what? Guys get tired, defenses are keen on something.

Starting point is 00:18:38 You try to give a different look. You try to give a different play. Somebody goes to the bench, somebody gets hurt. There's so many reasons why you need multiple of them on the floor at all times. So no, I'm not worried about that either. It makes their game better. Now, if you're talking about a lineup

Starting point is 00:18:49 where you pick up four guys, you need the ball in their hands to work, yeah. Then we start getting into that as a problem. But with two, no, not worried about that even one bit. As far as what he'd add to the team too, you look at this Kansas team and it's like, oh, what was one thing they really struggled with this season? Oh, they couldn't get to the free throw line. Oh, they weren't

Starting point is 00:19:07 able to shoot a lot of free throws. Oh, enter Keishon Hall, who was taking seven free throws per game this past season. And then it's like, Oh, you have questions about okay, how good is the rebounding going to be on this year's team? They finished 163rd in offensive rebound rate. They're actually good as a defensive rebounding team this year, which was pretty much, you know, 100 Dickinson is just an elite defense rebounder, but Hunter's gone and Flory Badunga is gone. So it's like, who's going to be the rebounders on this team? Well, Keishon Hall

Starting point is 00:19:30 helps solve that. Oh, another guy who can get your buckets after that's been a complaint for the past couple of years. But now what it wouldn't solve is the defense. And I think that would make it more important if you do bring on Keishon Hall as the four to the five man you look at has to be somebody who is a good defender, right? And that can be a one-on-one defender like a land and Lucas who is a good team defender in other ways that can be a rim protector shot blocker that covers up for other guys, right? But I do think it adds importance there.

Starting point is 00:19:56 Maybe you would even add a little bit of importance to the kind of combo guard that you bring in next to Darren Peterson. Maybe that's on Marco Jackson for them to be a good defender, right? But those are all workable things. And so this is an absolute fit. And for me, yes. If Kishan All wants to commit to KU today, you take them and you don't worry about that stuff

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Starting point is 00:21:53 Locked on College of Basketball, your second listen every day. So who are some other interesting names at this position for KU? Let's go to our handy dandy for watching on YouTube, our Google Sheet here. And we're going to talk a little bit about just this three four wing position specifically now you could go for more power forward type. That would be the one where I talked about fit if the idea is to play Keishon Hall at four, it's a hold on fit. If you do, if Bill self does get a

Starting point is 00:22:19 little crazy here and goes, Oh, I want to play two bigs and Keishon Hall at the three. That's where I start to become a little bit more wary. But we'll cross that bridge if those things both were to happen, because that would take a lot of things to happen to get to that point. But RJ Lewis is another interesting name St. John's before that was at UMass over 18 points per game at St. John's. Now that is one where you know, he he's, um, 33.6% for three, almost four attempts per game. I don't know, like hypothetically, if Lewis and Hall both told you, Hey, we both

Starting point is 00:22:51 want to come to KU. Could you make that work with one at the three and one at the four? And at that point, that's just a lot of talent that I feel like you could, but then maybe you do start wondering about the avenue of shooting. Maybe you do start wondering about, you know, at that point, is there too many guys you need the ball in their hands with Darren Peterson too. So if it does come down to that, like if you have to make a choice, RJ Lewis first Keyshawn Hall, I don't know, that's a very difficult decision. You look at Lewis, his team obviously was a

Starting point is 00:23:16 lot better than Keyshawn Hall, but he had a lot better pieces around him. And a Hall of Fame coach with Rick Patino around him. Hall's actually the better three point shooter gets the free throw line a little bit better. The on off team numbers are better for Lewis. The rebounding numbers also very good though for Lewis just like they are for Keishon Hall. So I'm not entirely sure which one you would go with there. I guess Lewis maybe has the better

Starting point is 00:23:40 defensive track record. So I guess in that scenario, maybe you are taking Lewis if it does count down to those two guys. But I don't think you could, you could the chances of getting both to that position is probably low anyway. And you know, I don't think you go wrong with with either one over the other. I still like Blake Harper from Howard. I like Elijah Freeman from the D two school Lincoln Memorial, but further down the line, guys starting to kind of disappear and commit to other schools. You know, but there's

Starting point is 00:24:08 some good shooters that you could possibly bring in at this level of things. And maybe guys that could could back up even if you add quichon hall or a RJ Lewis or something that you could bring into kind of be rotational pieces, pieces at this position too. But I don't know for this episode of locked on J. Ox. Thanks for joining us today on the show. You can find us anywhere you get podcasts including on our YouTube page and we'll be back at you next time for some more transfer

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