Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - OFFSEASON DECISIONS: Will Bill Self Return? What Key Roster Choices Do the Kansas Jayhawks Have?

Starting point is 00:00:00 A lot to decide in the offseason for Kansas. Will Bill Self be back? What players are going to be back? What other personnel decisions do they need to make Tyrant Stokes? Question mark. We get to all the offseason decisions on today's episode of the show. You are Locked on Jayhawks. Your daily podcast on the Kansas Jayhawks.

Starting point is 00:00:24 Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day. Derek Johnson here with Lockdown Jhawks. tuning in to us. And on today's edition of the show, we're going to be breaking down the potential personnel moves that KU needs to make in the off season. What additions could they be looking for? Who could be coming back? Who should they want back? Where do the scholarship sit?

Starting point is 00:00:48 We'll also discuss coaching staff decisions, including Bill Self. Will he be back? Will he not? Maybe we've got a little bit of a tell on that from San Diego. We'll break it all down on this episode of the show. Let's start right there with the latest on Bill Self. because that is the first off-season decision you have to make, right? Like, you're not just going to have, like, I don't know,

Starting point is 00:01:11 there's certain transfer portal decisions or who you want back. Like players deciding what they want to do are going to be based on who the head coach is, right? So that is going to be one big thing. And this was tweeted out by Michael Swain on Sunday evening after KU lost to St. John's quote from the tweet. Self said he hasn't decided. if he will coach next year, said he will go home and discuss it with family. Quote, I love what I do. I want to feel good doing it.

Starting point is 00:01:41 So a couple different directions you can take that, right? I love what I do. Like, he doesn't want to give it up. He loves what he does. He doesn't want to, but I want to feel good doing it. And that can be taken in a couple different ways as well. Like, is he not feeling good doing it? And is that he's not feeling good doing it?

Starting point is 00:01:59 Is that more in relation to the health stuff? or is that more in relation to they're not having success and he's not enjoying it as much with some of the extra curricular stuff that has happened in the past seasons too? Like, could that be possible too? Like, is the feel good part, everybody I think is going to read into that as health?

Starting point is 00:02:17 What if it's not? What if it's just like enjoying it as much anymore, right? Like, so it could be either one of those, obviously. Obviously that I love what I do part implies to me that he wants to be back, but who knows what his family. Like, I almost get the sense here. This is just me, I don't know, reading between the lines, shooting from the hip. But, like, I almost get the sense that, like, Bill Self wants to be back.

Starting point is 00:02:38 But his family and his doctor are probably like, you should probably hang it up. Like, let's just, you know, if you're Bill Self's family, like, let's just go retire on an island somewhere. Let's just go retiring some more in weather, like fish. Like, I don't know, you made a lot of money. Like, you've won two national championships. You're going to go down as the best coach in Kansas basketball history. You are that right now. You don't have anything else to.

Starting point is 00:03:00 prove, you know? And I don't know too, like from the standpoint of like, are you risking, are you risking dampening the way that you're viewed if you come back another year and you lose again in the first weekend? I don't know. Like, I think it'd more so have to be like, you missed the NCAA tournament. That would kind of dampen things. But like, I don't, I don't think that would, I think either way we'll look back and be like, yeah, Bill Self is the best coach in Kansas basketball history. But, you know, how does that enter his mind the finished ad against St. John's? Because, again, there's two ways to look at it. There's the way of, well, you just lost a game like that that's gut-wrenching. It's hard for that to be your last game and your last moment. And so

Starting point is 00:03:44 do you view it as, hey, like, I need to come back to flush the taste out of my mouth? Then again, in sports, like, it is rare that we get the final send-off. like the Ray Lewis winning his Super Bowl in his last game. That's a rare thing. Peyton Manning, right? That's a rare thing to happen. I mean, Coach Kay lost to his biggest rival in his final game, you know? So there usually isn't the perfect sendoff.

Starting point is 00:04:12 It is very hard to kind of time that together. And so, yeah, you could come back and be like, I want to come back so I try to not end on that. But then what if you make the Sweet 16 and then you lose on a buzzer beater there or you lose getting blown out? Like, is that going to really make you feel that much better? So that becomes a big question. Now, the flip side of that is do you look at it and go, like,

Starting point is 00:04:31 Bill South does view him as a caretaker of Kansas basketball history. And, you know, from his perspective, does he view it as, man, I've lost in the first weekend four consecutive years? Like, is this becoming too difficult for me to handle? And there's so much drama and the transfer portal and the NIL game and the style of today's basketball where it's like, I don't want to leave this place in a non-year-old. not great position. And so I'm going to leave.

Starting point is 00:04:58 So I think there's a lot that goes into this. Obviously, the health is going to be the main part of this. I've always thought, like, I don't know, what would it shock anybody if Bill self like did retire for whatever, a couple of years? And then he got the itched coach again and the health was doing well. And he decided to come back and there was a job open that he liked. I don't think that would ever shock me.

Starting point is 00:05:18 But like, I guess I'm at a point where I feel like he wants to come back to coach, but will the other thing. things around him prevent him from doing that. Now, what makes this interesting is, obviously, he's going to go back to his family and, you know, um, discuss all of this stuff. But like, it's hard that you can't take two months to make this decision, you know. The transfer portal opens up on April 7th, right? It's a day after the national championship.

Starting point is 00:05:47 So that's coming up in two weeks. And so between having to come together with exit interviews, having to, having to, contact agents, having to contact other players that are, you know, whatever that are going to be in the transfer portal, having to start getting scouting done on that stuff, having to, like, you have to almost come to a decision like sooner rather than later. It makes things very difficult because if you don't come to that decision until, oh, you're a week into the transfer portal, then you're like, all right, what's going on in the transfer portal? Let's catch up. You know, that's not a good position to be. So it makes, I don't know, does that make it more likely to come back?

Starting point is 00:06:25 would have to be a quicker decision or less likely. I guess you could kind of decide on that. So when I look at it right now, I feel like we'll do that notion, get a picture sooner rather than later, if that makes sense. Because specifically, like I just mentioned that from the transfer portal, you think about the guys coming back, you know? If you're Bill Self and you're not coming back, you don't have an exit interview with a player and go,

Starting point is 00:06:52 yeah, I think it's in your best interest if you go somewhere else. you know, if you are coming back, you have that exit interview. And if there's a player that you're basically being like, hey, you're not going to play here next year. We think it's in your best interest to go to another school. You tell them that. So you have to almost have it figured out before that as well. And that can kind of complicate things as well. And then from there, just like staying on the coaching path thing.

Starting point is 00:07:16 If it's not Bill Self, what decision does Travis Gough make and how quickly can you do that? I'd imagine as high profile as a job as the Kansas basketball. basketball job is and as good of an athletic director as I think Travis Goff is and as good at hiring coaches as I feel like he has been, you always have to have some sort of a running list in terms of like, okay, these are the guys that I'm focusing it on. And I truly do believe that he is going to be prepared for that to move quickly and move swiftly. Certainly it would be very interesting if you, I mean, North Carolina might open up. Could you imagine an offseason where Carolina and Kansas would both be open? And that might not be good for either school because then there's a bidding war and

Starting point is 00:07:53 and then all of a sudden you're cutting into potential like NIL budget, but that'll be very interesting too. But if self does decide to come back, then it's figuring out, okay, what's going to be the assistant coaching staff, right? Do you make even more changes and figure that the continuity has not been great here?

Starting point is 00:08:09 Now, you did bring two guys in, and Jock Vaughn and Tony Bland feels like Bland was making an impact on the recruiting trail. Everything I heard about Jock Vaughn was, you know, that that was going well at the same point in time. Kansas had their worst offense of the Bill Self era. So adding Jock Vaughn didn't just completely revolutionize the offense or something for Kansas. So what happens from assistant coaching perspective?

Starting point is 00:08:30 You know, I think those are going to be interesting questions too for KU. And then kind of the next question is, where are the don't pay into all of this? You know, do the donors have some sort of say? Because obviously from a player retention from player addition perspective, you need cash, you need money and you need the donors to be able to do those sorts of things. If, you know, are the donors upset with how the recent years have gone enough to a point where they're going to almost wedge bill self out and be like, hey, if you come back, I'm not donating or I'm donating less money. You're going to have less money to work with because it hasn't been working the recent years. Or does it go the opposite way where a donor says, okay, maybe like us missing out on Dary and Williams, for instance, maybe us missing out on that one final piece that cost us. And so now this year we need to spend even more money.

Starting point is 00:09:20 But again, if the flip side is, hey, if you retire and we bring in this new coach, I'm willing to stroke a big check to sign the coach and to give a huge boost for his first NIL budget in his first roster here versus if Bill Self is still here, I'm not given as much. Then it kind of hamstrings you in a certain way. And then if you're Bill Self and you're going, oh, so if I come back, I'm going to be coming back at a deficit of what amount of money I'm going to be able to you. Like, there's just so much that goes into this that you're going to have to figure out before we even get to the personnel decisions.

Starting point is 00:09:52 But let's get to those personnel decisions next. What Q1Skin is going to have to make in terms of the current roster, who's coming in already, and potentially what could they add in the portal? This episode of the show is brought to you by Indeed, workplace chaos, deadline stacking up, inbox overflowing, and the one position you have to fill is still sitting open. When the pressure's on and you need the right hire,

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Starting point is 00:12:43 is who comes back, who goes pro, who transfers away from the current roster, slash what they already know they're adding to the fold. So let's take a look real quick at what Cairns potentially could have for this season. So if I'm looking at the projected 2026 to 27 starting lineup, and even this, I don't feel great about. Taylin Kenney is an incoming freshman. I do feel good about him being a starter, really good shooter. I think we'll probably add a level of scoring that we haven't seen at the point card position

Starting point is 00:13:13 or shooting, I guess, would be the better way of putting it in a bit of time here. And then I think the two guard, like, okay, I guess theoretically, like, you know, if Col Rosario bottles up whatever he did and at the end of the St. John's games and does that in the offseason and comes out rocking, then sure, he could win the job. Marco Jackson, Jamari McDowell, could they have a chance? I don't think that would be in the best interest for Kansas if they end up starting there. But sure, why not? We can at least bring them up.

Starting point is 00:13:43 Then you look at the wing position and at the three again, like, okay, I guess you could go with Col Rosario or something. but more likely than not, that feels like either transfer or could Kansas land Tyrant Stokes. That would be kind of the big one to bring in. Then you look at the four and five, and even here, I'm just like, I don't know, like, Flory could go pro, Flory could transfer. We saw him enter the portal last year. Flory could come back.

Starting point is 00:14:05 I have no idea. Bryson Tiller, like, did, did Tiller do enough in some of the games that he had against, like, BYU, for instance, where somebody's going to be like, hey, we see star potential in you. We're willing to offer you. X amount of dollars and it's more than Kansas would feel comfortable on, especially with the way he struggled to finish the season. Also, with the way he struggled to finish the season. You know, what's going to be the situation there?

Starting point is 00:14:28 He was benched in the big 12th tournament game to a point where like, is he going to want to leave, you know? So those are all questions. You have to kind of get figured out. But yeah, I guess a point being, I would view it like this. So freshman coming in, Tail and Kenny, I would view him as a probable starter right now. You never exactly know what's going to happen. Davy on Adkins, that was one that the staff,

Starting point is 00:14:48 really like the center position. It seems like he's kind of fading in the wrong direction with his final year of high school. So probably coming in is more of a backup big man with the way Paul Mbia finished the season. To me, I would view Mbia ahead of Adkins on the depth chart. But we'll wait and see what happens there. Then you have Luke Barnett, who's like a really good shooter. And you have Tret Perry, who is a really good defender and wing prospect. Would not shock me if either one was at least playing eight to ten minutes per game as a freshman

Starting point is 00:15:16 because they are just like elite at one thing, and that can at least get you on the floor as like an eighth man potentially. And then you look at the potential returners for Kansas. So Marco Jackson and Jamari McDowell both could be redshirt juniors. Those are both going to be questions about what is the cost level and what is the expected role. If the expected role for either guys, we want to be a starter or the expected money is, you know, that level of investment. You have to say, no thanks, like go find a new school.

Starting point is 00:15:45 if it's going to come at a cheap cost for potentially being your seventh, eighth, or ninth man, then I think that's fine, right? So just kind of is a, it's like in the NFL or the NBA now, right? Like, team signs a guy to a three-year, $30 million contract. And, you know, it's like, okay, that's a whatever contract, like that's worth what he's paying. Or if you overpay him, then it's like, man, I like the player, but, you know, that doesn't go that way. So I think it's all about that, kind of the, what is the expectation here for both of those guys with Corbin Allen. I think the expectation would be back as a retro freshman kind of continuing to develop here,

Starting point is 00:16:24 unless he wanted to go somewhere that, you know, more playing time was ample to him. So he's Calderon will be an interesting one because Bill Self has made a lot of strong comments about him being like a future NBA player. So you would think Kansas will want to get him back and continue to kind of develop him. But, you know, maybe he views it as, hey, going to be tough to get playing time, which, you know, that's always a question here. Paul and Bia, another interesting one. Like, does he view it as, hey, I basically sat the bench all year. I'm going to go somewhere else and guarantee more playing time.

Starting point is 00:16:50 Or does he view, hey, the way I finished the season, I can do this. Like, I can be part of the rotation. And I would, if you told me Paulumbia is, if you told me you have Florida Bidunga as your starting center and Paul Mbia as the backup center next year, I'd feel great about the center position for KU going into it. Then with Tiller, that's the most complicated of it because of the idea that I just kind of outlined and how it finished the season. And so I don't know what you do there.

Starting point is 00:17:13 Bill Self does best when, and again, this goes back to the coach, Bill Self does best when he has player retention and players sticking in the system. And so it's one of those things where it's like, okay, do you just try to bring everybody back and hope there's improvement like we've seen in other years? The flip side to that is a lot of times when they've had the player retention, those are like really good players, you know? Now, I do remember like Christian Brown having kind of an up and down sophomore season And people were like, oh, Christian Brown needs to be coming off the bench, you know.

Starting point is 00:17:43 And then he comes back and he's a first round draft pick. So I would prefer they get Tiller back and play the consistency game with Bill Self. But again, going into those conversations, if the price gets out of your range, I'm not willing to like pay a huge figure to make it happen either, if that kind of makes sense. From there you have, let's see, I think that the whole. Rosario who I just kind of mentioned like what's going to be the idea for Rosario like is is that going to be he wants to go somewhere else that guarantees more playing time again the way I don't know like he might be looking for more playing time elsewhere but he's somebody with a high ceiling that

Starting point is 00:18:24 I would like to retain because he's somebody who if it all comes together for Cole Rosario he's going to be a really good player um so that's one where it's like okay with Omargo Jackson and Jamar and McDonough. If bringing back like a Cole Rosario costs you one of those guys, I think you have to do it from the standpoint of like with O'Marco and McDowell, it's more of a floor play with those guys, whereas with Rosario, it's more of a ceiling play, if that kind of makes sense. And then Flore is the last one. Like I said, he could go to the NBA. He could enter the transfer portal. He could. Now, it was interesting. There were a lot of rumors kind of like Duke's going to snipe him away for $3 million. Who knows if that's true or not.

Starting point is 00:19:05 But Bill Self kind of addressed that, like, without actually addressing the exact rumor in a recent press conference a couple weeks ago where he was just basically like, you know, sometimes agents can do that to float numbers out for negotiations and stuff. But basically, it sounded like to me that they were taking care of it, that their impression is Florey's either going to go pro or come back for a hefty dollar amount, right? Now, I do think it's important. Let's say Kansas loses Bryson Tiller. you need somebody at the four who can score for you inside if that part of Florey's game doesn't develop as much as you hope from this year to the next year if you do get Flory back. But the crazy thing about this is all of these are question marks. The only guy I feel confident about being like, I think you'll be in the starting lineup and

Starting point is 00:19:51 be here is Talen Kinney because Tiller could transfer wouldn't shock me or he could come back. Flore he could go pro or transfer. None of it would shock me. And then it's like, okay, you're adding transfer portal players, you're adding freshmen. and it gets very difficult to try to figure out right now what that's starting the lineup would be, which is crazy because on paper, KU only has three scholarships to work with.

Starting point is 00:20:09 All the players I just mentioned, that is 12 scholarship players. You have 15. That's only three available spots. Now, we know some players are going to transfer away. More will open up. So what could KU add in the portal? We'll get to that next.

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Starting point is 00:22:34 Now, so a player could enter on the final day and then commit two weeks later. They can commit whenever. Those are when they enter. If the coach leaves, there's a 15-day transfer window that opens up for players five days after new head coach is hired or announced. So those are good thing. And then also, this is the other one. Graduate students sometimes get different deadlines. And I don't know, it feels like with graduate students, at least like it feels like grad students could go whenever.

Starting point is 00:23:04 Also felt like, I think with like Juko guys and D2 and like those those guys, they could kind of go whenever to. I don't know how much KU will be in those markets. But so yeah, those would kind of be interesting here. So you have three scholarships available. But realistically, like at least one or two players you would think are going to transfer away if you're Kansas or go pro or something. So probably going to end up being more than the three. But you look at it right now. And I think you need another starting goal or next to.

Starting point is 00:23:34 tail in Kinney, right? And how you want to do that will be very interesting. Like, would you be good finding a Melvin Council type, right? When you think of Kenny being a shot making guard, does it make sense to have more of a defensive past first point guard? Now, that being said, I still want them to be able to shoot at least a little bit. If they're a 35% shooter on three times per game, like, that can be good for me. Because if you have that in Kenny, then great. But like, it's been so long since we've had two guards that could shoot at the same time for Kansas. And I would like to kind of get back to that. So I think that would be good.

Starting point is 00:24:06 Get somebody who's quick, athletic, can guard another player on the other team pretty well. That would be my preference. But I could understand getting in a Melvin council type to go with Kenny that can kind of play off each other. Then again, we had the council type next to Darren Peterson. And that didn't mesh as much as we wanted to. And that would be kind of the same idea. So again, I would prefer, you know, guys that can shoot at every level of the floor for KU and guys who are quick and athletic. We'll see what happens.

Starting point is 00:24:34 then at the wing position, I mean, if Tyron Stokes signs up to be a Kansas Jayhawk, like that answers that question. Now, Stokes is somebody who could, I mean, offensively, he almost becomes a one, and then defensively you can play him with the three or the four. So it gives you a little bit of flexibility with what you want to do there. Let's say, K, you got Tiller and Badunga back. You could start Stokes, Tiller, and Bedunga, and then you definitely need that other guy.

Starting point is 00:24:58 I mean, Stokes actually had seemingly a pretty good three-point shooting season from everything I was seen. But you would still want more shooting at the two in that situation to play next to Kinney. Now, if you don't get Stokes or let's say, you know, let's go down that path first. If you don't get Stokes, then you're looking to add a transfer portal player and you're looking to me to add a three and D wing, right? Somebody who can knock down threes next to Kinney, but be a good defender. And just in general, I would like KU to have at least two wings on the roster this next year, right? I guess Samis Calderon, if he comes back, then I would like it to be three if he's one of those three.

Starting point is 00:25:31 This year you only had one wing as part of the rotation. You had Trey White. He was the only wing in the rotation. And that really limits you. Like, go back to the National Championship team for Kansas. They had three pro wings in the rotation with OCHI, Jalen Wilson, and Christian Brown. Having wings makes you such a more versatile team in terms of how you defend other teams and how you can find buckets offensively.

Starting point is 00:25:54 I want more wings in line up for KU. And that's why the idea if, let's say, Bryson Tiller were to transfer away, for instance, and you did land Tyrant Stokes, get me another wing and then play a wing at the three and four, right? And then you have your two guards at the one and two, and then you have Flory at the center position. Would it behoove Kansas to find a big man that they can bring in as a play the four and five? Yes, but if you trust Paul and Bia and you bring your other two bigs back, then that can probably be okay as well, especially since you're bringing in Davy on Adkins, a top 50 recruit in the class also. So, you know, there will be rotation fillers or developmental guys or end of the bench type of guys for KU.

Starting point is 00:26:32 But those are the two I'm mainly looking at. A guard who can shoot and is an older player to pair with Kenny and a wing who can, whether it's a three or four, who can preferably somebody who can play both, who can defend wings, and your bodies, give you versatility and knock down an open shot. Those are the biggest ones that I'm looking for. And you need that other, like you need. You need multiple bucket getters on the floor at all times. I say this all the time.

Starting point is 00:26:59 And Kansas ran into this problem this year. You didn't have enough bucket getters on the floor, right? So like, Bill Self continually has good defenses. He figures out a way. Even the teams that don't have as much defensive talent, usually he figures out a way to at least get them like top 30. But we've seen now over recent years, the offense for KU has dipped outside the top 50 for three consecutive seasons.

Starting point is 00:27:19 It was 60th this year, which is the worst of the Bill South era. Give me the offensive talent, the bucket maker. the scores and let Bill self figure out the defense. Especially if you have floryback as the center and you have Paul and Bia behind him, then just just live with, live with having those guys on the interior to help your defense at least be okay and get a bunch of bucket getters around him. That's what I want from this offseason for KU. But it has to be guys that like it can't just be AJ store type of bucket getters,

Starting point is 00:27:48 guys who need the ball in their hand. I want bucket geters who can get make shots off the bounce or off off the catch. Right. I want guys who are not going to be selfish with the basketball. And then you have a couple of those guys that can do it with the ball in their hand. We need bucket getters back in Kansas. All right, that'll do it for this episode of the show. Thanks so much for joining us. And we'll have plenty more off-season content coming at you right here on LOJ.

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