Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - RECAP: #6 Kansas Jayhawks Basketball Wins Ugly Road Game at #25 Oklahoma Sooners 67-57
Episode Date: February 18, 2024Recap of #6 Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball winning 67-57 in Norman, OK against #25 Oklahoma Sooners. It was an ugly win for KU but that makes it beautiful because of how important that skill is for ...Bill Self teams. Kevin McCullar came back. GOATs of the game from Hunter Dickinson's double-double to Dajuan Harris 7 assists to 0 turnovers and KJ Adams strong second half and more. Plus, what's next with vs Texas Longhorns and vs BYU Cougars and the 'Hawks were given the last 2-seed in the NCAA Tournament committee's early mock reveal.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!IbottaRight now, Ibotta is offering our listeners $5 just for trying Ibotta by using the code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE when you register.LinkedInThese days every new potential hire can feel like a high stakes wager for your small business. That’s why LinkedIn Jobs helps find the right people for your team, faster and for free. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/lockedoncollege. Terms and conditions apply.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelNew customers, join today and you’ll getONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS if your first bet of FIVE DOLLARS or more wins. Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.eBay MotorsWith all the parts you need at the prices you want, it’s easy to turn your car into the MVP and bring home that win. Keep your ride-or-die alive at EbayMotors.com. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On today's Locked on Jayhawks, Kansas back.
They finally got another road win, one kind of an ugly one,
but that's kind of what's been missing for KU.
We discuss the significance, importance, and recap KU's win at Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma.
KU finally gets back on their winning ways on the road.
They find a way to grid one out.
You have a return of Kevin McCuller and plenty to talk about from this win for KU with a
basically a week off in between their next game.
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Kansas 67, Oklahoma 57.
It was a rough first half for KU that did have a good close you fell behind I think it
was 31 21 then 34 23 and then you go on a 6-0 run to finish the half and get it down to within five
where it was like okay Oklahoma shot really well from three in the first half you did not play well
in the first half the fact that you're only down five on the road is kind of a blessing in this
situation now they've been in some of those situations before this year.
Like, for instance, the at-West Virginia game, I think,
was tied at halftime despite the way that they were shooting.
Iowa State, you were down, what, like three or four or something like that
at halftime, and again, you weren't playing great.
And it was like, okay, you're still in those.
This one, you took advantage of it, though.
And it was kind of an ugly, gridded-out type game for KU.
They only scored 41 points in the first 30 minutes of the game.
Now, the offense did pick it up in the final 10 minutes of the game when they scored 26 points over those final 10 minutes.
But for the most part, it was kind of a gridded out win.
And you outscored Oklahoma 44 to 23 over the last portion of that game after you got down 34 to 23. And that's what kind of
the bottom line is to this for me. You held Oklahoma to 23 points in the final 22 minutes
and five seconds of the game. Bill Self said coming into the matchup on his Thursday press
conference, he said one of the things we worked on a lot over the course of this week was the
defense and trying to figure out a way to make other teams play bad. And that's kind of how I view this win for KU.
This was not a thing of beauty from the offensive side of the ball. You figured out a way to make
them play worse in the second half, and that was shown by the 23 points you allowed over the final
22 minutes and change of the game. So I think one big reason for the difference was just Oklahoma's three-point shooting.
There were still some open ones they missed in the second half.
There were still some, you know, well-contested ones that they made
in the first half.
Like you had the one that was made that was actually an arm out in front of it
that was like, you know, a few feet behind the three-point line.
But for the most part, a lot of Oklahoma's threes in the first half,
you know, they were open.
Like the two corner threes that Jalen Moore hit, you get a late contest from KJ Adams, but you gave way too much
space up there. The three that like Javion McCollum hits where he's like walking back to the three
point line, Nick Timberlake is kind of just running out with an arm up like, you know, that's
not really sealing a guy off. Some of the ones that Milos Uzan hit, like he hasn't been a great
three point shooter this year
but he was like wide open so like you look at the first half and you were giving up too many open
threes and yes Oklahoma was shooting above what you'd expect them to but you were still allowing
more open ones than you'd hope second half I thought you tightened up on that it doesn't
mean that you didn't give up any open threes in the second half um just naturally there's going
to be some open threes that are shot against you from a game-in, game-out perspective.
But I thought you tightened up a lot more,
and there were a lot less open ones in the second half than the first half.
And beyond that, you were pretty constricting inside the paint or inside the arc really all game long
because Oklahoma was just 8 of 27 on two-point shots in this game.
Compare that to Kansas, who was 12 of 18 at the rim,
and Kansas shot 16 of 28
in the paint. They went just 8 of 27 inside the arc on all two-point shots, and that is what led
to the shift. Once you started defending the three-point arc at least more reasonably in the
second half, they weren't able to do much, and you made them play bad, and that is such an important
skill for a team to have and something this Kansas team is still trying to find. Now, I don't know
that one half of basketball doing that makes me think that all of a sudden this has been
a skill that's now unlocked for this KU team you have to do it in more games coming up you have to
do it consistently and like you're going to be playing a Texas team upcoming here who has a
couple guards one in Max Acements who will pull from 30 feet then you're going to be playing a
BYU team was basically five guys who will shoot three. So, like, those will be good tests if this carries over.
Can you continue to make teams play bad?
But it was nice to see.
Kansas also led 30 to 14 points in the paint.
So, you know, dominance on the insides we're kind of used to seeing.
13 to 6 second chance points, 18 to 13 points off turnovers.
You just kind of, you know, elevated in a lot of different ways.
I do think there's a lesson to be had here about KU's need to be a strong defense.
You do need to figure back out the offense.
All of a sudden, they're ranked 45th on Ken Palm in adjusted offensive efficiency again in the 40s.
This was one of the three worst built-off offenses by that metric, and that continues to fall off.
And really, since the Baylor game, you've seen that fall off.
But I'm a little less I don't know it's one of those things where when you look at the time from when Johnny Furphy started his first game on January 7th or I don't know January 13th
whatever it was against Oklahoma to when Kevin McCuller got injured right before the Baylor game
they were a top five offense on Bart Torvik maybe you just chalk up the bad offensive performances
recently to okay no Kevin McCuller and then game, Kevin McCuller coming back and clearly having to
shake some rust off because he didn't have a very good shooting game. So maybe what you can
convince yourself is when everybody's healthy and everything is shaking the rust off, this can be a
top tier offense. We've seen the proof in the pudding since Furphy has been a starter, but can
you get the defense up to that level? And really you know, really you look at the Baylor game in this
one. So what that makes two of the last three games where the defense has been pretty good for
Kansas overall. And I think realistically, this isn't going to end up being a top five offense
in the country. You know, you don't have enough guys who can kind of get their own shot off the dribble.
It can be a proficient enough offense.
You have to be one of the top 10 defenses in the country.
Right now they're 10th in defense efficiency.
Maybe they have to even be, you know, better than that.
And you have some of the personnel to do it with Kevin McCuller and DeJuan Harris.
Now, certainly there are limitations from some of the other personnel and the lack of depth that you have that make some of that a little bit tougher.
But can you consistently make other teams play poorly?
That, to me, has been one of the calling cards of past Bill Self teams, especially why they've done well on the road.
You think a lot of their road wins in the past, it's made the other team play poorly,
and you had an All-American candidate step up and hit some big shots.
You know, this year, you look at it, and you haven't made a lot of other teams play poorly when you've gone on the road, but you did in this one.
And if that is a skill that you are sustaining moving forward,
that's big news for this Kansas team.
But yeah,
because that's just kind of the wind that Kansas hasn't been having.
Like you weren't able to make West Virginia play poorly on the road.
You weren't, you know,
I guess you made UCF play poorly enough on the road,
though not really in the second half, you more played poorly in that game,
but you didn't really make Iowa State play poorly on the road.
Can you do this consistently moving forward?
Now, I said last week, coming into the week,
you would almost take a one-in-one week playing that Texas Tech at Oklahoma.
You came in on the week with just one Big 12 road win on the year,
and those are two top 25 opponents playing on the road.
Not really ever last week did Kansas look
great like there wasn't really a moment maybe that one stretch in the second half for for KU Oklahoma
where they hit you know it was like back-to-back threes Kevin Kohler hits the corner one um then
you later have like a Johnny Furphy three a few possessions later that stretch maybe uh for a
brief period of time but like for sustained periods time, there was not really a point this past week that Kansas looked great,
but you go one-on-one on the road.
You have injuries that you have to deal with.
You're without Kevin Kohler in the first game.
I think one-on-one kind of keeps you in play for the big 12 title
convention.
You're not in a great situation.
And when you look at Houston and Iowa State's upcoming schedule,
they're going to be playing each other, even Texas Tech.
It's going to be tough for Kansas to win the league
without probably winning out at this point in time.
Maybe you can have one more loss,
but realistically you probably got to win out.
But that was the point.
You kind of had to go one-on-one to give you that chance there.
And beyond that, you're trying to get a top four seed,
like clinch that double bye in the Big 12 tournament and everything
and get as high of a seed as you can.
But I think more than anything,
you just kind of wanted to get back to playing Kansas basketball.
You kind of wanted to get back to just playing well on the road
and overall feeling like regardless of what happens in the conference,
whether you finish second, third, or fourth,
that you're trending in the right direction, that you're playing good basketball,
that you feel like you have a real shot, regardless if you win the Big 12 or not,
to make some real noise in March.
And this felt like a bit of a slump buster for you.
Can this carry over to some momentum now for Kansas?
I think it becomes the real question.
All right, we're going to get on to our goats of the game for KU.
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start with the good goats here. let's go with hunter dickinson
for a good goat hunter had 20 points he was 9 of 16 from the floor 16 rebounds four assists he
had a game high in terms of box score plus minus plus 15 he was the only player with uh plus minus
above eight or higher for ku so he was having a big impact and it started the game he got that
little bunny and missed it and it was like uh-, here we go again. Because at that point,
it made him, I think, three of his last 21 through his last 22 or something from the floor.
And then from there, he was awesome. I mean, some of the shots he was hitting,
twisting around the drop steps, fading back, banking it in that beautiful feathery hook shot.
That's what we're used to seeing. And he really carried the offense. I mean, he had almost a third of your team's scoring output in this game. Also was really
good on the glass in this game with 16 rebounds. The four assists, he was able to find open guys.
Just did a little bit of everything for you. And I love to see the response from him after he had
bar none, his worst game as a Jayhawk in Texas Tech. How was he going to respond? He responded
in a very real way,
which is what you need from your All-American candidates. Johnny Furphy gets a good go. 15 points. He was three of five from a three-point range. He also added nine rebounds, a good day
on the glass for him, two assists, and had three steals, doing a little bit of everything. He had
that one transition dunk where he's just cutting through the defense. It was a great find by
DeJuan Harris. He had Kevin on his right and Furphy cutting through
and kind of had the eyes in the back of his head to find him, and then he throws down that dunk.
And I mean, just the idea of
what he has brought to the team continues to be there, even though the offense
wasn't really there as a whole for KU. You're able to work a lot
of actions between Hunter Dickinson and Johnny
Furphy that are,
are very helpful to the offense,
whether it's same side actions or putting them on the opposite side and
have Hunter Dickinson,
you know,
fling it to that side.
If you would have just made your free throws in this one and,
or Kevin would have had a better shooting game.
You might've ended up with actually a pretty decent offensive performance
overall,
but as it stands, this was actually like one of KU's bottom, you know,
third, bottom, fourth offensive efficiency games of the season.
But Johnny Furphy is not a reason why.
He hit shots.
He needed them to going on the road.
Nice to see what he did again in another game for you.
DeJuan Harris had 11 points.
He went just four of 12 from the floor.
I still put him on good goats anyway, though, because he had seven assists to zero turnovers. Kansas was really good
at avoiding turnovers in their two game. Not as good in this one as the first one, but against
Oklahoma this year. He also had a steal, but I felt like DeJuan had two or three times in that
game where he poked a ball loose, whether it went out of bounds or went to your team or he got
credit for the steal or didn't. I felt like that number could have been higher. But he had a couple of big layups for you.
He had the one that puts you up by 10 with whatever, five or six minutes to go where it
felt like, okay, you feel like you're in a good position here. But again, just seven assists,
zero turnovers. That's so impactful and important for what you're getting from DeJuan. And even
though it was just four of 12, I do appreciate the aggressiveness,
the aggressiveness of him shooting threes.
He missed a couple threes.
I want to see him take more threes.
I would rather him shoot 37%, 36%, 38% from three on another two
or three three-point attempts per game than I would see him shoot 45%
on two attempts per game.
Double up that number.
Even if the percentage goes down a little bit, because it's still going to be helpful.
You saw that aggressiveness in this game, KJ Adams in the second half specifically, it was a rough first half for KJ Adams.
But in the second half, you finished with nine points on three of five shooting three
rebounds to assist two steals.
So if you would have done that for the whole game, puts him on pace for 18.6 rebounds,
four assists, four steals. That would have been really good. Fortunately, he didn't
have that the first half, but the second half, he was outstanding and really helped KU, you know,
get their way back into it and kind of grind through the game in what he produced in the
second half and, you know, hitting some of those short rolls, getting steals. He had that one steal
that led to the dunk on the other end. He was really turned up in the second half after
having kind of a lethargic first half. And I thought that was a big difference, both in terms
because he's the energy guy too, right? So it's not just about the performance, what he's adding
to the stat sheet. It's about the energy he's providing and the tone he's setting for the rest
of the team. So for bad goats here, I want to get one out of the way real quick. I thought about
putting Kevin McCullers shooting on here because it was a rough shooting day for him he was not seeing anything
fall rough offensive game and it is a little bit concerning that we've kind of seen that now over
what the last two or three games that he has played the shooting the efficiency has fallen
off a little bit i think jalen wilson had this happen last year though too for a stretch and
then it came back like i think it'll come back, but also he was shaking the rust off
after missing time.
He did so much for you rebounding and on defense.
And again, coming back off that injury, I kind of gave him a pass,
but certainly something to monitor if he can get that efficiency back up
after these past couple of games that he has actually played in.
K.J. Adams in the first half gets a bad goat.
He played 12 minutes in the first half.
He had zero points and one rebound. So the second half KJ Adams is great. And it was a big reason
why you turn things around and won the game. First half KJ Adams was a big reason why you were
behind in the count because you weren't really getting anything there. And for a team that
doesn't really get much from bench, you're very much counting on, you know, that core four. And
now that's starting five with Furphy
in there to get production from all five of the starters night in, night out. Can't really have
an off day. The bench still gets a bad goat here. I actually liked the Jamari McDowell minutes,
and I'm getting to a point where I am wanting to see Jamari McDowell more. I've understood it for
a while, and maybe I still will, because we have have seen certain guys even though it is more of a rarity you know whether it is a Malik Newman or Remy Martin who the light switched once it hit to
March and that sometimes we get caught up in this idea of oh is this the deadline you know do you
have to have figured out by February do you have to have figured out by the middle of February by
the end of February by the start of March turns out with Remy Martin he didn't get it really
figured out till like the big 12 tournament middle of
March. Right.
So it is a little bit different because you know,
the amount of minutes and what he was coming in and what he was for KU.
But point being with the bench,
when you look at guys like Nick Timberlake and Marco Jackson,
there is not a hard deadline. Like theoretically, you know,
Marco Jackson or Nick Timberlake,
one of them could break out in the first round of the NCAA tournament.
And then all of a sudden they just get hot for the rest of the NCAA tournament,
right? Like that stuff, it can't happen. It is more rare, but it does happen, right?
So I understand that from a standpoint, you continue to play those guys because the ceiling
of a Marco is athletic guard, McDonald's All-American. If he realizes that ceiling at
some point that year, this year to have that guy coming off the bench would be very impactful.
Nick Timberlake, the ceiling is hitting, you know,
being a 40% three-point shooter on high volume, right?
Having that guy come off the bench, having a 40% three-point shooter
off the bench would be very impactful.
So, like, you don't want to give up on that.
You want to continue to take cracks at it and hope that eventually
something just randomly clicks.
But we are getting later in the game, as much as I said,
there's not a deadline, to where I feel like Jamari McDowell, yes, maybe the idealized ceiling
of what Jamari McDowell is as a freshman versus what Nick Timberlake can be as a six-year player.
Maybe the ceiling of Nick Timberlake this year, if it all hits, is 40% from three versus with
Jamari McDowell, it's 33, 34% from three. I just feel like the floor is almost better with Jamari McDowell at this point.
And because you're not really getting anything from the bench,
I'm almost to a point where I'm just like, forget the ceiling.
Just go with the floor guy.
Jamari McDowell is going to try hard.
He's going to go after rebounds.
He's going to try his butt off on the defensive end.
I think he's a better defender than Timberlake.
Maybe not quite as good of a defender as El Marco,
but he's a better shooter than El Marco is
and is comfortable playing kind of off the ball in a way
that maybe El Marco isn't quite as much.
So I would like to see more minutes for him.
I don't know if we will see it, but that was key for him,
having that little putback at the end of the first half.
I thought he played well in the minutes he was out there,
but then he, like, didn't really play in the second half.
But for what it's worth, overall, the reason I did put the bench,
circling back to this, on the bad goats,
the bench played 22 minutes combined. They had two points on one of three shooting, two rebounds, two assists, one turnover, zero steals, zero blocks, four fouls. Again,
total let it out. If that was one player, you'd be ragging on them today. So that's why that one
is there. And then the last one here is free throws. Not quite as bad as Virginia. Virginia
was one of 11 on free throws yesterday. Still somehow won that game. Kansas though was really bad on free
throws though too. They were nine of 18 on free throws. And all of a sudden, if you go 12 of 18,
13 of 18, which would have been more like a normalized number, maybe at times where you're
down, you're in front. Or maybe instead of the game feeling like, okay, they still kind of got
a shot at this point.
You know, it's just completely put away.
That stuff will come back and haunt you in other games.
And it has.
Like you look at the Kansas State game where Kevin McCuller missed all those
free throws against K-State, not just the one and one at the end there,
but when he missed the two the prior time before.
Like there are other games where the free throws have
and can come back to haunt KU.
And this was one where it didn't,
but it is one of those process things where later down the road it could.
So got to see those free throws going at a bit higher rate than that.
Nine of 18 on the day for KU.
Let's finish up with what's next and real quickly touch on the NCAA tournament
committee who released their basically early mock selection of what things would
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So finishing things up here, what's next for KU
and touching on the NCAA tournament stuff.
So it's a one-game week this week.
You're off through the rest of the regular week,
and we'll have an episode about what that can accomplish
and what that can do and the positive impact that that can have for this KU team and then you're going to be taking on Texas on
Saturday it'll be two straight home games Texas Saturday and then BYU the following Tuesday
which Texas has been kind of a weird up and down team they have some certainly a lot of top end
talent but they've gone through some you know slow little losing streaks or losing stretches and then some winning stretches.
So it should be a good one in Allen Fieldhouse.
Also, the NCAA Basketball Tournament Committee released their mock selection
of what the tournament would look like as of Saturday morning.
Kansas was a two-seater in that, which may be a tad surprising
when you saw Iowa State on the three line,
when Iowa State was ahead of the Big 12 standings on Kansas,
beat Kansas head-to-head,
albeit in Ames, not getting the return trip in Lawrence. But I think a lot of that, and this is kind of what they said, had to do with the non-con schedule of KU being so good. And that's why it
gets kind of buoyed up a little bit there. Obviously, you win your game at Oklahoma, which
ends up being another quad one win that you can kind of add to the fold. So maybe that resume
strengthens a little bit there. But certainly, you'd think that's 6-7-8 because they listed the rankings.
KU's the last two seed.
Tennessee's the sixth, who KU beat.
Marquette's the seventh, who beat KU.
I don't know.
Maybe you could argue that with Marquette getting stomped by UConn
and Kansas winning an OU, that Kansas jumped Marquette yesterday
and that once you jump Marquette, if six and seven is Tennessee-Kansas,
like the head-to-head of Kansas-Tennessee doesn't apply if, if six and seven is Tennessee, Kansas, right?
Like the head-to-head of Kansas, Tennessee doesn't apply if Tennessee's six and Kansas is eight.
But if Kansas is seven and Tennessee's six, maybe the head-to-head does apply.
Then maybe Kansas now all of a sudden is six.
Point being, if Kansas ends up, you know, even if you end up like third in the Big 12 in the regular season,
but with their non-con, if they end up winning the Big 12 tournament, I think Kansas still can get a one seed.
But that's a good spot
to be in the two seed. I think a lot of people would take the bracket that they had necessarily
to where they're at. I don't think there's one like super advantageous. Maybe if you can get
the South with Dallas because you have that big alumni hub there, but it feels like Houston's
just kind of going to get that. So at this point in time, like whatever on where you're located
and everything, more important to get Omaha on the first two rounds probably for Kansas.
But that obviously a good sign for KU that even with some of their recent road struggles,
they were viewed as a two seed and then added a nice win on the road to boot
even after that came out.
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