Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - ROCK BOTTOM for the Self Era at Kansas? Jayhawks Never Lead in Loss to Utah Utes, Fall to 17-8

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Starting point is 00:00:30 We are free and available wherever you get your podcasts. And you can find us on our YouTube page where you can like and subscribe to the show. On today's edition of Locked on Jayhawks, we are recapping KU's loss 74-67 in Utah as they drop another one here. And we're going to discuss the question like is this rock bottom for the bill self era at kansas i know we've uh you know if you go back to some previous years in kansas there's still been worse years than this um you know they've had years in way the past right if you go back to maybe the ted owens era for instance where you missed the

Starting point is 00:01:02 ncaa tournament so for some people it's not going to be rock bottom, but for some younger fans, it is going to be rock bottom. And I also think a lot of us have undergone some past KU football seasons, which have felt like rock bottom. So again, to that notion, this is not going to be on the same level. But comparatively, yes, this does feel like rock bottom for KU and the Bill Self-Herald. We'll get into that and specifically why. This episode of the show is brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook.

Starting point is 00:01:26 And right now, new FanDuel customers can get $150 in bonus bets if your first $5 bet wins, which right now, I just feel like you use it against Kansas since it's coming through. If you're going against us. 74-67, Kansas falls at Utah. The Jayhawks are just, I don't think, a very good basketball team. You can look at some of the metrics and say, oh, they're ranked 12th on Ken Palm or they're ranked this on.

Starting point is 00:01:49 I don't think it captures what this team is. I really don't. I don't think this is a top 20 team in the country. And there's just so many things wrong right now. And they fall to 17 and eight on the season. They're now eight and six in Big 12 play. They're going to be playing most likely on a Wednesday for the second straight year of the big 12 tournament you just okay and this is what I'm talking about when it when saying rock bottom for Bill's I mean first of all Bill's self has never gotten below a four seed at Kansas and they came in as a four seed in the early bracket reveal earlier today now you lose this game I think it's pretty easy to see but yeah they'd probably be a five seed right now and you look at the

Starting point is 00:02:23 finish to the schedule and say oh if this is the easy part of the schedule and you're losing games, then you still have Arizona and Houston and Texas Tech, like, probably going to lose multiple of those games to where, yeah, Ken's probably going to be a five, six, seven, eight seed somewhere in there, depending on how they finish kind of the rest of the season. That from that standpoint, this would be the low point of the Bill Self era in terms of those components for KU but it's like just how you lost this game I think is a perfect summarization of why this is rock bottom in the Bill Self era against and again I am approaching that from a standpoint of it is an insanely high bar that he has set and it is a little bit unfair maybe to compare to that insanely high bar because like I said we watched KU football for so many of those seasons under you know David Beatty and Charlie Weiss where that was real rock bottom but from the Kansas basketball perspective right where you do adjust your expectations based on those things this is rock bottom for that you just lost a

Starting point is 00:03:14 game to a bad team like Utah is not a very good team they're not gonna make it to the NCAA tournament this is a team that was rated like outside of the top 80 on Ken Palm you just lost to a bad team in which their center was one for nine on free throws. You lost to a bad team in which they shot 37% from the floor. You lost to a bad team in which had scoring droughts of like five minutes in the first half and like six minutes in the second half and could not score to close out that game. Kansas didn't even take the lead one time. Utah, again, not a great team.

Starting point is 00:03:52 And if there's any Utah fans listening to this, I like your coach. Overall, you guys have had a solid season, getting better in the Big 12. I'm not trying to take away from it. But Utah has no business leading Kansas 37 minutes and 14 seconds of the game while Kansas leads this game for zero stinking seconds. And Bill Self has been calling for more energy. He did this week in the press conference. He's been calling for better responses from Kansas all season long.

Starting point is 00:04:17 And every time, it has not been answered. And perfect example, you even saw it in the game. He has the technical to try to get the team fired up. Didn't really get the team fired up. And instead you look back on and you're like, yeah, this team's not really good enough to overcome the points. You have to give up on the technical. That is a problem for this team to have.

Starting point is 00:04:33 And yes, like part of it is Bill Selford. Like he doesn't go blameless here. Like he's the one who put together the roster. And there are a lot of flaws with the roster that has been put together for Kansas. But some of the stuff where it's like, oh, this guy should be playing or this guy should be playing more or this rotation, this lineup is better than that. I mean, I've talked about that throughout the season. I think there have been certain things you could nitpick here or there, but like, I don't know. I'm kind of to a certain point where like, does it really matter? Does it

Starting point is 00:05:00 really matter what lineup they're throwing out there with the current construction of team that they have right now? I don't really think it does. I think you can throw out any combination of five players and this Kansas team just get a lot from a majority of players that hit on the court. I guess props to DeJuan Harris, who did have a good game, I thought, for KU. Zeke Mayo was pretty good for Kansas overall. But it's just the lack of effort is appalling for Kansas. And I said this before, I don't think it's every player. There are some players that play with good effort. But the problem is, if you have a five-man lineup on the court and there's even two players who are

Starting point is 00:05:48 playing with crappy effort, it's going to make it look like everybody's playing with crappy effort. You know why? Because you can't make up for the mistakes of everybody and then you start trying to make up for the mistakes of other people and it leaves somebody wide open and it just screws up everything. Even if there's one person not playing with high effort, like it really messes things up. And it's just repeatedly over and over again. They do the same stuff. They're the same stuff in the same games happening. They don't play with energy. They lose on the road. It's just who they are. And they just refuse to shake it at this point. I think I've finally figured it out. This is what this team is. This team is a random pickup basketball team. And it's a random pickup basketball team that despite playing more and more together over the

Starting point is 00:06:34 course of the season. And in the case of, you know, some of these guys getting to play together last season too, is just basically a brand new pickup team each and every game. Here's what I mean by that. When you play a random pickup game game let's just say you stroll to the park or the rec center wherever you play you know your pickup basketball right and you just join a group of random people that's just like hey we'll just get next like we're gonna go out there and have some fun whatever you're trying like you're you're competing you're trying to win the game all the sort of things but like it's pickup basketball like you're not really going all out like you don't want to get hurt like i don't know there always are the tryhards

Starting point is 00:07:07 and pick up basketball but for the most part like you know it's kind of like that you're not quite in like fourth gear you're maybe operating in that like okay i'm trying but i'm kind of cruising here right you're gonna kind of like feign attempts at some threes but are you really gonna be like fully closing out and rotating on the defensive end and locking down on defense every play like no not really in pickup basketball offensively you're probably going to have some players on your team who can't really shoot basketball and there's not going to be you know a ton of spacing you're not going to be running a five out offense and pick up basketball you're gonna want to win like i said like you want to win when you're playing the game but at the end of the day for the most part like people when they're playing pickup basketball it's like okay this is kind of

Starting point is 00:07:48 a fun way to compete and you know get some exercise but like at the end of the day if you lose your pickup basketball game are you gonna go home that day and cry are you gonna go home that day and feel awful about it all day long no like you're gonna move past it very quickly it's it's like a pickup basketball game where it's five people playing together for the first time and that is every night of KU basketball right now um and at the very least when they're on the road like that is the case like hey if you want to make an argument they're like yeah there are certain situations where that hasn't happened the Duke game maybe at home against Iowa State right some other ones you can point to sure but I think a majority of the time or way too often of a time, that is the case. And honestly, like, let me share my least my two least favorite moments of the game among it all.

Starting point is 00:08:31 This is going to be like ultimate old man. Get off my lawn. Take here. But I don't really care. I think you see sometimes like what's that one saying? It's how you do, you know, know oh gosh i'm completely spoiling this how you do like everything is is how or how you do little things is how you do everything something like that like again i've completely muddled that but how you do anything is how you

Starting point is 00:08:58 do everything maybe that's the saying here um in that like even the little things you know at the end of the day like rylan griffin gets gets knocked over i think it was on like a three or ran into so i i don't remember exactly why he got knocked over um but there's like a stoppage and nobody comes from the team to pick him up instead the people come to pick him up or david coy who was on the bench and jeremy case who was an assistant coach and you see that stuff happen and again like does it really matter it's an innocuous thing like whatever but it's hard not to see a thing that stuff happen and again like does it really matter it's an innocuous thing like whatever but it's hard not to see a thing like that happen and go watch another team

Starting point is 00:09:30 who has like good culture right now like you watch like a houston basketball or an auburn basketball right one of these teams one of those players falls over there's multiple teammates sprinting to them to help them up and again this sounds like you know i feel like i'm like calling coward having some like old man but like there is some truth to it in that like those things don't happen on teams with that high culture and then you had zeke mayo go down later in the game and like i didn't really see teammates come to help him up too maybe that was different because that was like an injury thing and so i don't know that one ends up being different but like that riley griffin one specifically really stood out to me in that like the culture just isn't there anymore remember when

Starting point is 00:10:04 they had the streak going on and that culture was passed down team to team and that like the culture just isn't there anymore remember when they had the streak going on and that culture was passed down team to team and it was the no pressures no diamonds like that feels totally gone we feel totally lost from that at this point in time and and beyond it all like the execution sucks too like it's not just the effort the effort is bad the execution hasn't been great either like you're not scoring at eye level this is not an entertaining brand of offensive basketball you're playing you don't ever take advantage of anything like that's that's I know the Chiefs just got blown out in the Super Bowl but like the biggest thing with the Chiefs is usually when another team like messes up or gives you a turnover or I don't know has a penalty

Starting point is 00:10:38 or whatever like the Chiefs take advantage of it good teams find a way to take advantage of your mistakes Houston took advantage of you missing those free throws and then throwing the ball away right I mean as much as Houston won that game in a way they also needed you to make mistakes they had to take advantage of you making those mistakes good teams find a way to take advantage of other teams mistakes Kansas doesn't do those things like think about the end of the half right you're down 39 37 you get a rebound on a stop at the end of the half and rickies pass more gets fouled it's an opportunity for you to tie the score at the end of the half you don't even have to you get fouled you get one on one you miss the one on one so you don't grab that momentum at the end of the half um those uh you know end of game kind of lack of scoring sequences for utah where they don't score and you can't take advantage

Starting point is 00:11:21 you can't take the lead despite them not being able to score for you know minutes and minutes on end the intentional foul sequence like unable to take advantage of that missing every layup known to man in a game where the offenses weren't great especially in the second half and then yeah like unable to make a dent in kind of either of those two long scoring droughts for utah and so the end of the day, Kansas now has 11 Big 12 road losses. They have 13 total Big 12, or I'm sorry, they have 13 total road losses dating back to last year. And Big 12 only play, they have 11 road losses in Big 12 games dating back to last season. And I tweeted this out at D Johnson Radio, the most total losses in Big 12 play for KU over a two-year stretch of Bill Self's time at Kansas is 11. That was from the 2017-18 season, followed by the 2018-2019 season combined together. They had 11 total Big 12 losses. The last two seasons

Starting point is 00:12:21 of Kansas have 11 just road Big 12 12 losses that doesn't even account for you know some of the losses that you've had at home like against houston and west virginia and so long now am i being too harsh here right because this is a very harsh conversation in first segment that we're having um and or you know to a certain standpoint like yes are kansas fans spoiled for this being the worst scene for this being rock bottom you know there's probably's probably another school like if you're Oklahoma State, if you're watching this show or if you're Utah watching the show to be like, oh, yeah, we won this awesome game like this was so cool. You're probably watching this show and you're sitting there going like, man, Kansas fans

Starting point is 00:12:56 are spoiled. I would kill to be, I don't know, 17 and eight and be ranked 17th in the country, even though we just got an upset loss. Like those things are great. How is this rock bottom? It's just a different line, man. It just is. And so, yes, like those things are kind of true.

Starting point is 00:13:12 And I probably am being a bit too harsh here, but like the way, here's what it is to me, the way this team plays. And if you would notice like over past episodes, like I am critical of the idea of KJ Adams in the sense of like, yeah, like should Bill Self be playing him this much? I don't know. Probably not. Like I've made the comparison before that.

Starting point is 00:13:32 Like, it's like asking a hammer to be a windshield scraper. It's like, no, that tool is used for something else. But who do you blame? Do you blame the hammer? Or do you blame the person using it the wrong way to me i blame it the person you right if kj was playing this specific role and he's this good defender like that could work but kj always tries his ass off he hustles he does everything he can to try to make his team win so i don't blame kj right even though i think from roster construction perspective there are certain questions you could have for bill self there

Starting point is 00:14:02 but um the thing where i run into is there are too many players on this team and whether it's you're just cashing an nil check and happy to be here whether it is you know you just don't want to get injured whether that's just not your mo you're just not you just don't got that dog in you right you just don't have that motor whatever it is for some of these players or you've just kind of given up on the season or the houston game sent you into the shadow realm whatever it is for this kansas team and some of the players that is why i think i am being harsh and i think a lot of ku fans are being harsh because you know they've had a like the dedrick lawson season people weren't happy with that they got a four seed and stuff like that but like at the end of the day i think people were

Starting point is 00:14:43 able to move on from it and understand that like sometimes bad seasons do happen or like bad to your expectation right um this one is not getting any of that maybe it's just you know social media has become so angry and it's become so much more rampant over the years but like i i think there is a big part of it that it's the lack of respect almost i think from fans in how this team plays the lack of respect almost, I think, from fans in how this team plays. The lack of consistent energy, the lack of playing for the Kansas across the front of your jersey. It is very apparent. You watch that team play defense and not sprint out on three-point shooters and not pick up your guys when they're falling down.

Starting point is 00:15:19 It is very apparent that this team, I guess, again, like I'm being harsh, but do they really care? I guess is kind of the bottom question here. And so it does kind of feel like rock bottom for KU in the Bills off air. All right. Went along in that first segment. Let's get to some game awards next. This will be maybe a little bit shorter than normal.

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Starting point is 00:16:49 I am at a bit of an end here because I don't know. What do you want to listen to if you're the fan? Hit me up at DJohnsonRadio. Like, do you want us to keep talking KU basketball? Are you hopeful they're going to turn it around? Do you want to start talking about next year's KU basketball? Do you want us to talk about KU football? Do you want us to just finish out the season and deal with the misery?

Starting point is 00:17:06 I don't know, because I'm glad to keep talking about this KU basketball team the rest of the season. And, you know, I'm going to keep watching the games. I'm going to keep talking about it to a certain standpoint. But, like, you know, I'll keep doing the game recaps and the game previews. But in between those, you know, what do you want me to talk about? So, at T. Johnson Radio, if you have maybe an opinion there on where you want things to go. uh game trophies for this one um i don't know do i really want to do best moment i i don't

Starting point is 00:17:31 feel like this game deserves the best moment so you know i'm just gonna move past that um there were a couple like cool moments in the early going the hunter to flory alley hoop dewan was making plays early uh the zeke a couple zeke threes in the game but yep uh i don't really want to pick one there uh worst moment of the game a lot to choose from um there was the lack of defensive effort the lack of i think it was a lack of defensive effort both mentally and physically right mentally maybe just not doing a good job enough job checking defenders or getting over screens or knowing what to do on the scouting report and then physically just like you know half a step slow to certain situations and really all season long this team has been half a step slow to like loose

Starting point is 00:18:09 balls and things like that and i think that really paired out in this game to the rebounding advantage right utah came into this game seventh in the big 12 and offensive rebound rate in conference games they were 14th in defensive rebounding rates of like this has not been a juggernaut of a rebounding team in utah but in this game they they out-rebounded you by 10. They had 10 more offensive rebounds, 16 to 6 on the offensive rebound chart for Utah. And let's take a look. I'll actually be kind of curious here where that ranks for Utah in terms of offensive rebound rate for a game this season. Okay, it's a little lower than I would have thought.

Starting point is 00:18:44 They're about middle of the pack for them but yeah uh for the kansas defense for their side of the ball let's see that was their fourth worst fourth worst defensive rebound rate game of the season some of the other ones were baylor and iowa state with a couple losses in there they did beat beat TCU, and then the other Iowa State game was also in the top five. So two and three in such situations. But I think you saw the situation there. And if we're specifically talking about a certain play, I mean, this is probably the worst moment of the game.

Starting point is 00:19:17 So you do hack a leveling or whatever you want to call it, which we actually mentioned in the preview. So if you're in every day or you might have caught, oh, that's a possible strategy, right? And he only goes one of nine from the free throw line. And you get the situation you want. He misses the free throw, but you can't get the rebound. And then they put a shot up. And you can't get the rebound again.

Starting point is 00:19:35 And I feel like, okay, again, like, okay, I put this out on Twitter too. Sometimes I feel like Hunter Dickinson is a hungry hippo. You know the game where you have the little balls going around and you have the hippo and it snatches whatever. It's like if the ball comes to where the hippo is, you press the button in time, you're snatching the ball, it's going to get that ball, right? Hunter Dickinson's standing there.

Starting point is 00:20:00 He's going to do a good job boxing out. He's a big guy. He's going to grab the ball. But if that ball is, you know, there's a limitation on how far the hungry hippo like it's it's locked in there there's a limitation on how far he can reach out for a ball if it is outside that limitation of where his legs are planted and his arms can reach he ain't getting the ball and you combine that with again kj hustles but he just hasn't been a good rebounder in his career so that's always been kind of a weird uh combination of the two and then just hasn't been a good rebounder in his career so that's always been

Starting point is 00:20:25 kind of a weird uh combination of the two and then flory's been a really good offensive rebounder but he struggled on the defensive glass yeah man uh that that was not great for for ku to say the least and then kj fouls out as a result of it too to which kj didn't have a great offensive game oddly enough both his buckets were like mid-range shots i thought he actually had a good defensive game amid all the chaos for ku but you know it just didn't really matter there uh the i mean just everything the zeke mayo turnover off the back of florida showing the the lack of i don't know cohesiveness i guess you would say of this kansas team um the zeke mayo injury scare good to see that he came back at the very least maybe that's the best bullet of the game the zeke mayo did come back into the see that he came back at the very least. Maybe that's the best bullet of the game. The Zeke Mayo did come back into the game.

Starting point is 00:21:06 It's like, okay, at least he was okay. Yeah, just this season as a whole. I don't know, for the worst moment of the game. Appalling side of the game, I mean, if you go to the offensive rebounds, that would certainly be a big one as part of this. Going back to the turnovers, Utah only had seven in this game. That's been something we've been harping on. Kansas has been a horrendous team at forcing turnovers.

Starting point is 00:21:24 That continued in this game. And you got out we've been harping on. Kansas has been a horrendous team enforcing turnovers that continued in this game, and you got outscored 22-7 in points off turnovers by Utah. So certainly that's one that sticks out from this one. The other one that would stick out to me, this one I find actually kind of funny. Kansas shot 38% from three. Utah shot 32%. I mean, based on how the game started,

Starting point is 00:21:44 that one actually shocked me when I looked at it. But I think the most mean based on how the game started like that one actually shocked me when I looked at it but I think the most appalling side of the game it has to be that Utah led for 37 minutes and 14 seconds Kansas led for not a single second okay offensive MVP for KU um I'm gonna go out you go Zeke Mayo 15 points four of nine shooting he's five of six at the foul line three assists to 2 turnovers. I'm going to go with DeJuan Harris, though. 14 points for DeJuan, 6 of 12 from the floor, 4 rebounds, 4 assists. In a game where I think the lack of energy was more apparent in the first half.

Starting point is 00:22:16 The second half, to me, was more about lack of energy rebounding the second half. But the defensive energy overall got better outside of the rebounding second half. the second half was more about a lack of execution i think i think the first half was more about a lack of energy not getting out to shooters and a lot of those different things um but when that was happening dewan harris was trying hard and he was going for it and this is what i was saying earlier like if you have a game where three of the five guys out there are hustling and playing hard but two of them are not it's gonna look like everybody's not playing hard and that's an unfortunate part of this uh for KU but I think DeJuan gets offensive MVP defensive MVP of the game um I I don't Hunter Dickinson had four blocks so I guess he gets a little bit of uh credit for that Kansas like I

Starting point is 00:23:01 said continues to not really force turnovers and force steals i guess you could say the free throw line to uh levering would would certainly be up there um and he was only one for six from the floor so i guess honestly like you could say hunter was the defensive mvp just in terms of that but uh yeah that was not his best performance so i don't know who else you would go with just in terms of like i said i thought kj did some stuff covering up for other players on the defensive end of the court and that's the other thing that stinks for kj that like that lack of effort thing somebody can completely mess something up and kj covers for them and it just looks like oh they were just switching or they were just rotating here and it's like no that wasn't the plan he just went and covered it so i don't know i guess i'll give

Starting point is 00:23:38 him defensive mvp for this one for ku but uh i don't think the the MVPs really matter too much in this one. I'll be very curious to hear Bill's comments after I record this podcast of what he'll say after the game. All right. What's next for KU? We'll get that on the other side. Finishing things up on this episode of Locked on Jayhawks. What is next for the Jayhawks? So they're going to be at BYU on Tuesday, which now, I mean,

Starting point is 00:24:06 this becomes incredibly much more difficult now because this was the game that was supposed to be the easier one to win. BYU is an incredibly tough place to play. They're a good team, and they space the floor and shoot threes. And so if you now go, if you lose that one too on Tuesday, you will basically have spoiled your opportunity to, in a more winnable stretch, win more of these games than you wind up losing in a weird way, right? Like the stretch between at Kansas State all the way through at Colorado upcoming, like that's kind of the case. There is an interesting hypothetical where it's like if you lose at BYU, you'd be 17 and nine, eight and seven and big 12 play. Let's say you beat Oklahoma state and then lost at Colorado,

Starting point is 00:24:48 which I mean, given the road struggles is not entirely impossible. I mean, we didn't see Kansas just absolutely hammer Colorado, right? Then that would all of a sudden give you 10 losses. What is the record between the two home games, Texas tech, Arizona, and then out of Houston? Is it one and two, you split them at home and you lose at Houston? So then you'd be sitting at 12 losses. Then you lose in the Big 12 tournament, 13 losses. Like, it is hard for me to fathom that Kansas could lose 13 games with a built-self team, and that is entirely possible.

Starting point is 00:25:18 Now, is some of that pessimistic in some of the picking? Yeah, but still be close to that. It could still be 12, you know? So, yeah, that's not great, obviously, for KU. I will say, if you can win at BYU, it doesn't save the season. It doesn't turn things around. It doesn't change, honestly, completely the way I feel about this team, but it certainly would make you feel a little bit better, and it would be a little bit of a band-aid in that if you would have said coming into this, you were going to go one-on-one in the two road trips at Utah and at BYU. You would have thought you lost at BYU, and I guess it would flip that a little bit. But again, it's not going to completely all of a sudden change your opinion on this team. It'll just be kind of a Band-Aid to feeling a little bit better until there can be a sustained level of play and energy

Starting point is 00:25:56 that you see from this team over time. So I guess an important one on Tuesday at BYU, that's for sure. That'll do it for this episode of Locked on Jayhawks. You can find our show anywhere you get your podcasts, including on our YouTube page. Apologies if this was more of a negative episode. We will be back on Monday. I was hoping it was going to be a fun episode,

Starting point is 00:26:14 but we're going to be joined by Graham Doran, who does some great bracketology work on Monday. Obviously, KU was a four seed in that NCAA tournament reveal earlier this morning. We're going to talk what's the impact of the Utah loss. You know, what is the upcoming schedule? Provide for this team what's like the lowest seed they could possibly get, what's the highest seed they could possibly get.

Starting point is 00:26:33 So we're going to get into some fun conversation with Graham. I hope you join us on Monday. And you can do that anywhere you get your podcast or on our YouTube page. See you then on Locked on Jayhawks.

Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - ROCK BOTTOM for the Self Era at Kansas? Jayhawks Never Lead in Loss to Utah Utes, Fall to 17-8

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