Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - Three Takeaways from Kansas Jayhawks Football Loss to Illinois From Run Defense to the Play-Calls

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Starting point is 00:00:35 Thank you for making LOJ your first listen every day. We're getting into our three biggest takeaways from the Kansas Illinois game in which Kansas fell to Illinois over the weekend. We'll finish up with the top performers according to Pro Football Focus and some interesting notes about maybe what that can tell us about the team and moving forward. This episode of Locked on Jayhawks, before we get into those three takeaways, is brought to you by 5-Hour Energy.

Starting point is 00:01:01 Go to 5hourenergy.com, use my promo code LOCKEDONCFB, and you receive 20% off your first order. Okay, three biggest takeaways from KU's loss to Illinois. My biggest takeaway, and I don't know, maybe I'm just going to start with a happy one, I guess, to ease into things here. This is the best run defense of the Lance Leipold era. Now, you didn't necessarily set the highest bars when you're looking at the first couple of years. They were better in 2022 than they were in 2021. They were better in 2023 than they were in 2022. And now they've, in my opinion, taken that next step or are going to what they're going to do. So you look at that first season, they gave up 6.1 yards per carry they have almost 251 rushing yards per game you look at

Starting point is 00:01:51 year two 2022 they make a bowl game uh the run defense is better they're giving up 4.8 yards per carry they're still giving up 209 rushing yards per game and that yard per carry number so big then you fast forward to 2023 last year the yard per carry goes down from 4.8 to 4.4 and the yard total goes from over 200 to 162. So still numbers that you want to get down, but you can see the improvement year in and year out. In the early going here for the 2024 season, Kansas has only given up 77 rush yards per game. They're only given up two and a half rush yards per carry, but you know, it's one thing to do it against an FCS opponent. It's another thing to do it against a power opponent,

Starting point is 00:02:29 and not just a power opponent, but one who wants to rely on running the football, one who they want their identity to be running the football, and one who has been good at running the football. When you look at the KU game against Illinois, it was the least amount of yards, total yards, that KU has given up to an FBS opponent. And even that amount took some KU turnovers, took Illinois hitting some tightrope passes on the sideline that required really good catches to either stay inbounds or just to haul in the pass. As far as the running game, though, that's what I'm talking about here. That's a good running team that Illinois has.

Starting point is 00:03:07 Kansas held them to 79 rushing yards, 79, that's it, on 2.3 yards per carry. I said this in the reaction show afterwards, and don't forget to check that out if you haven't already. Thank you to the everydayers who already did for that. If you would have told me coming in that Kansas would have held Illinois to 2.3 yards per carry, 79 rushing yards, I would have thought they would have won by two three touchdowns to be completely honest with you maybe even more than that uh Brett Bielema has been a coach at Wisconsin Illinois

Starting point is 00:03:33 and Arkansas whether he's been at Wisconsin or he's been at Arkansas or now Illinois he's always had good offensive linemen he most drafted into the NFL at this point because Nick Saban's retired uh he's always had you know seemingly good running backs and running games for what he's been able to do. Specifically, when you look at his time in Illinois, Brett Bielema has coached 39 games for the Fighting Illini, including the game over the weekend. They've only been held below 100 yards in eight of them, in eight of the 39. So I don't know, basically one every five games so it doesn't happen that often that's a couple times a season and like half of those came last season

Starting point is 00:04:09 when they just didn't have the guys to make it happen as much as they have in like all the other years including probably this year so realistically uh you know that that number ends up being a little bit smaller they've only been held to below two and a half yards per carry in the era in just five of the 39 games so that's basically one out of every eight games. So on some seasons, only once other seasons is only happening twice per season, right? You're going up against some good defenses, good run defenses in the big 10. A year prior to that, they had 139 rushing yards against you in the Kansas IllinoisIllinois meeting. And that's not a huge number, but they got to the point where they had to start passing because they got down so early.

Starting point is 00:04:50 Illinois averaged five yards per carry in the matchup with Kansas last season. They held them below half that number in this one. And then you look at the personnel too, because there's reason that Illinois is a better running team this year than they were last year. And a big reason why is Caden Fagan. So Caden Fagan was a freshman last year, only had one carry in the game against Kansas, kind of became the lead back over the back half of the season for Illinois last year. And so far early in this year, that's kind of been the case. So Caden Fagan in his young career, he's had six

Starting point is 00:05:20 games during his career where he's had double digitdigit carries, 10 or more carries in a game, which that's not even like that huge of a number. If I wanted to go to like 15 carries, 20 carries, that'd be a whole nother thing, but just even double-digit carries. And even when he's just gotten double-digit carries, here has been Caden Fagan's rushing totals for those specific games that he's had 10 or more carries. 85 yards, 84 yards 89 yards 108 yards against KU he had double digit carries he only had 40 yards so Kansas did an excellent job stopping the run against a team who wants to run the football and has personnel to be good at running the football and I think this is going to end up being the best run defense of the KU era or the Atlanta Lightbulb era and

Starting point is 00:06:02 I kind of had suspicions that that might be the case coming in. A, you've seen the progression each and every year. B, you have Cornell Wheeler and JB Brown to thump up the middle. You've got a good stable of defensive tackles. And even if you question, okay, there's no Austin Booker as a pass rusher, I do think they have guys at the defensive end spots who can stop the run. So I think everything's pointing to that. And that would obviously be a very positive takeaway from this game moving forward for KU. Takeaway number two, though, we got to go to the

Starting point is 00:06:28 negative side of things. Losing Andy Kotelicki was a bigger loss than me. And I think a lot of others, I mean, I don't want to, if you might be in the camp that you knew this was going to happen all along and more power to you if you knew that was going to kind of be the case. And I will say it still is just the second game. Like there is a real chance that Jeff Grimes figures it out and, you know, starts to mesh with everything KU wants to do. And Jalen Daniels is good at and the running game and getting the ball to Devin Neal more and stuff like in Daniel Hyshaw more and stuff like that. Like there's a chance that things improve and that would be kind of the hope

Starting point is 00:06:59 moving forward because it is just the second game of the season. Things can change very drastically in college football with 18 to 22 year olds from the second week of the season to the eighth game of the season. Things can change very drastically in college football with 18 to 22 year olds from the second week of the season to the eighth week of the season, right? That can absolutely be the case. But I think I kind of downplayed it. And again, I was not alone in this, that losing Andy Kotelnicki was a huge loss. He's a great offensive coordinator. And I kind of remained that way the whole time. And I thought it was a great hire for Penn State, but I thought that Kansas was going to be able to have a seamless transition because one you saw in the bowl game like Jim Zebrowski is calling plays and Kansas

Starting point is 00:07:33 is able to manufacture this huge bowl performance you see the fact that you know the now Nevada offensive coordinator who was a former analyst with Matt Lubick was in your system. Like, okay, that's just another part of the system. You bring Jeff Grimes in for the bowl practices and he's getting to coach, or I guess be around the coaching and interpret stuff and soak in what KU is doing and add it to what he wants to do. And the idea was that he was just going to be an extension of what they were doing just with some new concepts of what he wanted to do, blend it in.

Starting point is 00:08:04 But it seems like it was more of a takeover than a blending at least from the play calling that we saw in this past game and I feel like things got downplayed a little bit I still think Jeff Grimes a better recruiter than Andy Kotelnicki but Kotelnicki was more just focused on the X's and O's and the play calling and stuff like that and I think it's even fair to question like this was another thing I kind of glossed over like Andy Andy Konellick, he was coaching the tight ends. That's what Jeff Grimes is doing. Maybe it's just easy to say it's a personnel thing. Like you had Mason Fairchild on the roster the last couple of years and you

Starting point is 00:08:32 don't on this year's roster. And also Sean Hanukkah, who was probably going to be the starting tight end gets injured in spring practice. And that throws a wrench into things certainly, but like the lack of tight end usage has been very notable. And honestly, even when Jared Casey and Trevor Cardell were backup tight ends for k you it felt like they

Starting point is 00:08:48 were getting used more than they are now is like the top two tight ends for ku so i i don't know where grimes kind of comes into that or any kodaliki as a position coach or as an offense coordinator and kind of the difference is there but i think the biggest thing to me is this kansas needs to call plays like their biggest strength on offense is running the football i know they have these really good receivers and the idea of what Jalen Daniels can be which hasn't been this year but has been in the past is very tantalizing but let's not forget they were running the football even the last couple of years more even when Jason Bean was going off because the best player on the offense this is who you're calling like you're tailoring the plays to in my

Starting point is 00:09:21 mind is Devin Neal but it didn't feel like that was the case in Saturday's game to Illinois. It felt like it was being tailored. And Jalen Daniels, when he is a good player, is a phenomenal, fantastic player. Unfortunately, we haven't seen that this year. And why that's happening, I don't entirely know. But the point being, right now, KU's best offensive player is Devin Neal. And you could argue the second best player is Daniel Hyshaw. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:09:42 Maybe you'd argue one of the offensive linemen. Maybe you'd argue one of the receivers, like if, you know, there's just different situations. But, like, I think that needs to be the biggest case. And the fact that you went from Kotelnicki to Grimes, so far the early returns have not been good, and it has been a notable drop-off. And even though Penn State just had a close game with, like,

Starting point is 00:09:59 Bowling Green this past week, they still put up 34 points. You look at some of the yardage totals. They were doing good things. Drew Aller had a 98 QBR in the game against West Virginia. Go watch Drew Aller from year one as a freshman, albeit it was a freshman season. I know you look at the stats. He had, what, like 25 touchdowns, two interceptions, something like that. But you look at the big games, he's going like 10 of 22 for like 90 yards.

Starting point is 00:10:18 Like, seriously. You look at what Andy Kona, like you did for Drew Aller, and you look at Jalen Daniels struggling on Saturday against Illinois, it's hard not to see like, oh, okay, Drew Aller was not very good in big games and big moments last year. Jalen Daniels, when we have seen him, has been really good the past couple of years. Now those are flipped.

Starting point is 00:10:37 It's kind of the common denominator there. So again, it is early in the tenure, and you hope that Jeff Grimes can kind of figure it out. But on paper right now, it feels like that was a big hit to KU, losing Andy Kotelnicki and going to Jeff Grimes. And who knows, maybe if you would have been able to hire Matt Lubick, because Matt Lubick is doing really good things at Nevada. I mean, that was a Nevada team that won two games a year ago, and they've been much, much, much more competitive this year. But I don't know that KU had the opportunity to really make him the offense coordinator, because I know he was battling some,

Starting point is 00:11:05 I guess, health things off the field, which I mean, that's just kind of unfortunate part of life that kind of came up through this process for KU, but it does make you wonder with, with some of that stuff, what would have happened if,

Starting point is 00:11:16 if that stuff wasn't kind of happening. Okay. Let's get to our final takeaway here, and then we'll get to the top PFF performers on locked on Jayhawks. Our episode today is brought to you by 5-Hour Energy. I need one for today, tomorrow, the rest of the week. I feel like I'm going to be dragging all week long

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Starting point is 00:12:48 They will probably have a lot of glowing things to say about UNLV coming into this matchup, deservedly so. So that'll be a tough one for KU. All right, our third and final takeaway here. That game, the UNLV game, and honestly, I want to stretch this out to the next two games. Versus UNLV at West Virginia. This is going to determine the direction of what

Starting point is 00:13:06 goals should be for KU because let's say you lose both games. You lose to UNLV and you lose to West Virginia. At that point, you're sitting at one and three. It just, the goal changes to, can you salvage this season and get to bowl eligibility? Can you get to six and six on the season? And there's certain games we're going to, we're going to rank the 10 games that KU has in terms of easiest to hardest on tomorrow's episode. There's some games that have gotten harder. Think of like Arizona state. There's some games that have maybe gotten a little bit easier on there.

Starting point is 00:13:36 You think of like maybe Colorado, maybe by that point late in the season, guys are just going to be like, I'm up and out. I'm going to the draft. I don't know. Cause that didn't look good against Nebraska, but point being um you do that all of a sudden the goals very much change from where they were at the start of the season if you go one and one these next two right you you beat you one of e but then you lose it west virginia it's gonna kind of feel like you're in

Starting point is 00:13:59 the same spot where you are now where it's like okay i the goal is still probably just like make a bowl but maybe the goal is more like seven and five and just try to beat K-State and then if you win both games with UNLV and West Virginia and I don't even think it really cares how you do it if you beat UNLV by a field goal you beat West Virginia by a field goal it's and yes I guess it would matter a little bit like if you win both games 17 to 14 like a it'd be great that the defense looked like that but that would probably not read well to like what the passing game has changed in terms of what you're hoping from the Illinois game but like point being you win these next two games it's going to feel more like the Illinois game is

Starting point is 00:14:40 kind of that blip on the radar that if you win these next two games we can point to the illinois game and say okay that was the anomaly they had some weird stuff happen weird stuff go against them you had the picked up pass interference call you had the the punt they got muffed that turns into a touchback which is the dumbest rule in college football is the right way to they use the rule in the right way that's what it was supposed to be it's just the dumbest rule that it is in there in college football like that that should have been a safety if we're having common sense and writing the rules. So you think of like weird stuff like that happened.

Starting point is 00:15:09 You think about Illinois making some unbelievable plays on some like third down third and longs where they had like third and eight, third and 12 where they're hitting a deep ball or hitting a guy on the sideline where they just made some unbelievable plays against KU's corners, which I was looking at pro football focus. KU's top 10 in coverage grade right now through, through a couple of weeks of the season um they just made some of those plays you had some bad turnovers like you win these next two games we'll be able to point to the Illinois game with more data under it and say okay that was the anomaly problem is right now we only have two

Starting point is 00:15:37 games under our belt and only one against an FBS opponent and so it's hard to be like that's an anomaly because that's the biggest piece of evidence we have. So it almost these next two weeks become the fork in the road moment of what are you? Is that the real like, will the real Kansas Jayhawks please stand up? Right. Or is that the real Kansas Jayhawks? So the goals and what they should be. Do you think this team can still contend for a big 12 title? Do you think this team can still try to win nine regular season games

Starting point is 00:16:07 and try to win a 10th in a bowl game? Do you think they could try to win eight games? Whatever you think the goals are, for me, I'm not going to fully evaluate what those should be. Once again, I mean, we had the goals in the preseason. I'm not going to reset them until these next two games happen because they are going to tell us what exactly they should be for KU moving forward. All right, let's finish up.

Starting point is 00:16:27 Top PFF performers against Illinois. Bottom PFF performers as well. Some interesting notes from that on Locked on Jayhawks. Our episode today is brought to you by Ibotta. It's summertime and getting closer to fall, which means it's still barbecue season. And, you know, you might be wanting to pull the TV outside, maybe barbecue up or maybe just barbecue outside before the big game or something like that. We'll stock up on all your grilling favorites and earn cash back on every purchase when you use Ibotta. So you won't have to choose between burgers or hot dogs.

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Starting point is 00:17:54 this weekend's UNLV for what takeaways that's going to possibly have. We'll get into our UNLV preview later in the week and plenty more content to come on Locked on Jayhawks this week. So make sure you're subscribed to the show. All right, top five offensive PFF performers for KU. Number one was Logan Brown. He had an 82.6. He had a good PFF score in week one as well. So, you know, piling that up with each other, I think that's a good time.

Starting point is 00:18:16 And that's the weirdest part. I saw Jesse Newell, Kansas City star. He now is the Chiefs beat writer. But he put this out on Twitter, and I thought it was very succinctly put. I'm paraphrasing here, but he kind of talked about how, like, for so long, Kansas had to try to figure out ways to overcome a disadvantage in the trenches, right? They weren't deep enough.

Starting point is 00:18:35 They weren't big enough or weren't good enough at offensive line and or defensive line, and they had to figure out ways to overcome that. And now, in this game against Illinois, Kansas had the better offensive and defensive line. Like they were good in the trenches. They ran the ball really well. They shut down the run really well. They got pressure on the quarterback,

Starting point is 00:18:51 and they found ways to lose the game as kind of the opposite of other way. But Logan Brown really good. Devin Neal, not a shocker there. 78.6 on the PFF grade. Michael Ford, always talk about how he's one of the most underrated guards in the country 76.8 pff grade he was great for ku kobe baines how about this at the right guard spot 74.6 pff grade for him and he had a 76 in terms of run blocking brown was kind of balanced between the two ford had a better pass block grade but still was uh in the mid 70s in terms of run blocking baines is a good mauler as a blocker.

Starting point is 00:19:26 He still had a 70 pass block, but almost a 76 run block. So, I mean, you're getting three of your top five are linemen and the other one in your top four is a running back. What do you think you should do more? Run the football. Your fifth one is Luke Grimm, who had a 74 offensive grade and had himself a nice game. It did feel like, though, the KU receivers weren't getting as much separation as we're used to, but I think part of that was Illinois did some good job. They talked about this in postgame disguising coverages and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:19:55 I don't know. There were some plays where they did get behind the defense, but the throw was just kind of underthrown a little bit there. As far as the bottom five offensive performers, Jalen Daniels was low man on the total pool, totem pole, 47.4 PFF grade. I think that one's kind of self-explanatory what happened and we talked a lot about it in the post game show. So make sure to catch that if you haven't, thank you if you already did and you're an everyday or other bottom five, Quinton Skinner

Starting point is 00:20:18 just wasn't able to really get open, got dinged for that. Didn't have a good run block grade. Jared Casey was, was up there at the bottom. Definitely felt like Jared Casey was this, for so many games for KU, has been this key blocker. He's always springing big blocks. He's always reliable for you. In this game, he made a couple big mistakes in this one, so it was a tough one for him.

Starting point is 00:20:38 I do expect him to bounce back. Trevor Wilson was also in the bottom five, only 10 snaps, though. Trevor Cardell also in the bottom five, and 10 snaps though. Trevor Cardell also in the bottom five and he only had 13 snaps. So tough to say too much there, but I think it does ring well in the same way that I would say, okay, well, four of the top five were related to the running game for KU. Four of the, or two of the bottom five for KU are tight ends. And that's something we talked about earlier in the show. Like you just haven't had the same production so far from the tight end group. I had somebody, I apologize.

Starting point is 00:21:07 I'm forgetting who replied to me. So I'm so sorry about this, that that was a big deal. I'll try to give you a shout out on the next episode. Anyway, when you're looking at like snap counts, though, things of note, I don't know, maybe that Cardell only got 13 snaps. It felt like this was going to be the year that he finally stepped up. I was also curious, Leighton Cure, who I thought played really well in the FCS game, only five snaps in this game. Again, it goes back to the idea that what's going on with the tight ends and the tight end usage.

Starting point is 00:21:34 She actually had a 72 PFF grade, but didn't lead to a ton more playing time. Now, what about the defensive side of the football for KU in this one? Your top five, Tommy Dunn had a 79 grade and he really flashed a lot of plays. That's something we talked a little bit about on Saturday's episode. JB Brown, who's really good against the run, 78 overall on defense, 80 tackle grade, a little lower in coverage, but still was basically average in coverage. So that's fine from a linebacker. You look at his biggest strength being that. Mason Ellis, only eight snaps, but a 72 PFF grade. I've kind of been surprised he hasn't been getting more playing time

Starting point is 00:22:08 after he was talked up a good amount during camp, and it's felt like there have been some mistakes made by some of the Dye brothers at times. But Jalen Dye did have a really good game. He had a better game than the FCS game. 70 PFF grade. He was fourth on here in 26 snaps, and then Keenan Caldwell was tied with him over 70 PFF grade, but just 10 snaps for Keenan Caldwell. Like Kobe Bryant, OJ Burrows, Marvin Grant, they were like right on the fringe. Tywon Berryhill had himself a good game in 22 snaps. Cornell Wheeler had a solid grade as well. When you're looking at the bottom

Starting point is 00:22:40 five though, DJ Withers, I was surprised to see that. I thought I noticed Withers on a couple plays that he was solid at, but he was only great at a 38. Alex Reich was only great at a 40, only three snaps. You miss one tackle in three snaps. That's going to kind of kill your grade. DJ Warner was in the bottom five here at fourth. I'm skipping the guy in third for a reason because I want to talk about it for a second. I thought he had a good start to the game, but again,

Starting point is 00:23:05 he's going to get better as the season goes on. And then Caleb Taylor also bottom five at a 54. But again, I thought the D-line did a good job in this game, getting pressure and stopping the run. So I don't know if I totally agree with those. The one that I skipped over here, he only played six snaps, was Demarius McGee. So Demarius McGee only played six snaps.

Starting point is 00:23:23 He graded a 44 on pro football focus because he only had a 45 coverage grade. He was only targeted two times. So that's a small sample where it's like, okay, if one of the two falls incomplete or is overthrown, all of a sudden his grade is much different. But the problem is the two completions that he gave up went for 54 yards. He gave up a 42-yarder. He gave up another 12-yarder.

Starting point is 00:23:44 I want to say both were on third downs or on key plays. The thing that got me, now it's such a small snap number that it's like, it's so small, but like the fact that they targeted him twice on key plays when he was only in there for that little of time almost tells me that they were like, oh, look, we got this thing to happen. And you heard some of the stuff that Kobe Bryant was moving from, well, not moving, but he was going to play some on the outside, some on the inside and wanted to learn that spot during fall camp. And understandably so, because that'll be something that I'm sure he'll be asked at certain times to play in the

Starting point is 00:24:15 NFL. Here's the problem though. I don't know that that's the best thing for KU. And you saw something like if Kobe Bryant is the one matched up in those situations, do those get completed Kobe Bryant I don't know I I tend to lean toward probably not Kobe is a little bit bigger Demarius McGee is only like five foot nine so it's easier to kind of throw over him I feel like McGee who I still think McGee will be a good player this is such a small sample of weird thing I'm just saying like I feel like McGee profiles more as being the slot corner whereas Kobe profiles more as being the outside corner so whereas Kobe profiles more as being the outside corner. So I didn't totally get that, and I thought it hurt KU on a couple of plays. But who knows? Maybe just a small sample and something that'll get fixed

Starting point is 00:24:52 and corrected over the long haul of the season. That'll do it for this episode of Locked on Jayhawks. More to come later this week as KU prepares for UNLV. Trying to bounce back. Make sure you're subscribed to the show anywhere you get your podcasts. See you next time with LOJ.

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