Locked On Jayhawks - Daily Podcast On Kansas Jayhawks Football & Basketball - Why Kansas Jayhawks Football Should be Ranked + Will KU be Featured in College Gameday in 2023?
Episode Date: September 12, 2023After a 2-0 start and a win against Illinois, should the Kansas Jayhawks Football team be ranked? Why Lance Leipold's team should be, why KU isn't, what will it take to get ranked in the AP Poll after... coming in 28th with receiving votes? Plus, Kansas might have three chances to be in a College Gameday destination this year, starting off with the Texas game in a couple of weeks if they can take care of business with Nevada and BYU.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Jase MedicalSave more than $360 by getting these lifesaving antibiotics with Jase Medical plus an additional $20 off by using code LOCKEDON at checkout on jasemedical.com. Athletic Brewing Go to AthleticBrewing.com and enter code LOCKEDON to get 15% off your first online order or find a store near you! Athletic Brewing. Milford, CT and San Diego, CA. Near Beer. Gametime Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONCOLLEGE for $20 off your first purchase. LinkedIn LinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONCOLLEGE. Terms and conditions apply. eBay Motors Keep your ride-or-die alive at ebay.com/motors. eBay Guaranteed Fit only available to US customers. Eligible items only. Exclusions apply. FanDuel Make Every Moment More. Right now, NEW customers can bet FIVE DOLLARS and get TWO HUNDRED in BONUS BETS – GUARANTEED. Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On today's Locked On Jayhawks, very simple, rank Kansas.
They are receiving votes in the latest AP poll, but why they should be ranked,
and if not now, when, could this lead to some college game day appearances later in the season?
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On today's edition of Locked on Jayhawks, we are talking about KU football coming in,
receiving votes in the latest AP poll, but not quite ranked.
I think they should be ranked.
Rank Kansas.
Let's make this a thing.
If not now, when will they be ranked?
Possibly as long as they keep on winning.
And could this set up some possible college game days down the road for Kansas?
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that is with game time. And Kansas currently is, you know, receiving votes in the latest AP poll.
They are one of the top couple of teams that is outside of the poll. They're currently basically,
if you were to count the rankings, they would be ranked tied 28th or 29th. Clemson is the first team out, Arkansas
after that, and then TCU and Kansas are both tied with 19 receiving votes outside of the top 25. So
technically you're tied 28th if you view it that way with the AP poll. So it's not that you're
that far off, and that is a good sign of respect for what Kansas has been able to do early on in
this season and how they've looked.
But I guess the big question here is, should they be ranked, right? Should they be in the top 25,
even though it is kind of splitting hairs and how much really does the top 25 rankings matter?
It's funny, from a KU basketball perspective, I give like zero bleeps about where KU is ranked.
Are they seventh? Are they fourth? Are they third? Like you care from a certain standpoint
where it's like,
well, if they're second or 25th,
that's probably you care because that's indicative of how the season is going.
But realistically, it's more so about is Kansas basketball ranked
to keep the ranking streak alive or are they not, right?
Like at the end of the day, if they're ranked third versus fifth,
it's not that big of a deal in terms of how it affects things
at the end of the year.
And I guess rankings a bit affect things in terms of watchability and what people are going to turn
on because they see, oh, there's two unranked teams or one team that's ranked. I guess I'll
watch the ranked team. Let's see what they're all about, right? Sometimes it does affect that.
And there is a bit of an impact there. And maybe it has a bit of an impact on, you know,
you're picked for a slightly better bowl game if you're between one other team in your conference
or something like that. So there are certain things.
At the end of the day, does it matter if Kansas is 25th or 29th or whatever?
No, probably not.
It doesn't have an impact on changing how they should approach this week
or how they're going to play the rest of the season, at least you would hope.
So it doesn't matter a ton, but I think they should be.
And I think for a Kansas football program that you are still building things up,
we saw how much it meant for this program to be ranked two weeks last year. I think it just means a lot for this program. And I think it means
something for you from a recruiting standpoint, right? Who knows what's going to happen? We
talked a little bit about in the past, like Nick Marsh, for instance, who's a kid who's committed
to Michigan State with their situation. Will he decommit? Does being ranked give you a better
chance at landing kids like that? I don't know. But here's the argument for why they, I think, should be ranked right now.
The offense is absolutely legit.
Right now you're averaging 7.9 yards per play on the offensive side of the ball.
You were number one in the Big 12 last year at seven yards per play.
Now, albeit it's only a two-game sample size,
and one of the games was against an FCS opponent,
which is going to raise some of those numbers.
But that's almost a yard improvement from where you were. And you were already number one
in the big 12 a season ago. The offense is absolutely legit. You've shown it with Jason
Bean. You've shown it with Jalen Daniels. Jalen looks like a legit dude. And I mean,
one game of work against Illinois, you saw why he was the big 12 offensive preseason player of the
year. The running game looks really good. Offensive line looks good. We know what they
have at the receiver and the tight end room, but the defense looks improved
too. That was kind of the big question coming into the year. Is the offense going to be the
same, if not better? And can the defense be better than a year ago? Well, so far,
early returns would say, yes, you're giving up 20 points per game, which that number I'm sure
will go up as the season goes on because you're going to play good offenses as the season goes on.
But the pass rush has really been there.
Kansas was one of the bottom three teams in the conference a season ago in sacks.
If you stay on this pace that you're on right now, you would be one of the better teams in the conference in sacks. Again, FCS game in there. Sure. You only had one sack in the FCS game. You
had six in the Illinois game, right? Like the defensive line, the pass rush has looked good
so far. You've stopped the run in a good number so far, under four yards per carry through the first two games,
including an Illinois team with Brett Bielma that wants to power run the football.
So the defense looks improved.
The offense looks legit.
We haven't seen enough from the special teams to, I think, judge one way or another,
though I guess them not making any mistakes this early in the season
would make you believe that they are just improved on that merit on its own
from where they were a season ago. And where you were a season ago, let's not forget when you had a healthy
Jalen Daniels, you were a ranked team. You were ranked what, 19th in the country when you started
5-0? You were ranked 19th in the country even the next week after you lost to TCU. So with a healthy
Jalen Daniels, this was a top 25 team last year. And if we start from that base point and say,
okay, with a healthy Jalen, they were top 25 last year.
Now they have Jalen, all these guys back,
and some of these things are improved from a year ago.
Why would they not be top 25 at that point in time?
You're 2-0.
You have two wins that you've won going away.
The Illinois game looked closer than it ended up being.
And maybe that's something that is hurting Kansas here.
I mean, if you have
an AP vote like as much as you'd like to watch each and every game you just can't it's just not
feasibly possible right so did some people maybe now you would think for the Kansas game being on
Friday more of a standalone game that the AP voters would have been able to see it a little
bit more um but did were there some box score people who just said okay they won 34-23 that's
a solid win but I'm not going to just jump them up for nothing
as opposed to watching the game and being like,
oh, Kansas is a lot better than this Illinois team was in this game,
and they were up this much at halftime,
and they were up 31-7 at one point, and they were dominating the game.
And if not for this small thing or that small thing,
they won the game even more than they already did,
and the score wasn't totally indicative of how much better they were in that game. Then I think you would have gotten more votes going your favor
and going your way. But if you're just looking at the box score, the final score, you might not
give them enough credit to what they probably should have gotten. You could argue just to begin
with that, you know, if this was a lot of other schools, they would have been ranked in the
preseason rankings just to begin with.
I've mentioned this a lot during the offseason, but take like a lot of these other Big 12 schools, right?
Take Baylor, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma. If you had a team who won six games and returned 16 or 17 starters, including the first team,
all conference quarterback and running back.
And the quarterback is your preseason conference player of the year.
You did all those things.
You returned those.
You returned every single coach.
You returned all your coordinators and everybody thought highly of your
head coach.
If that happened to Oklahoma state or Baylor, Oklahoma,
those teams are preseason top 25 teams might not be, you know,
top 10 or top 15, but they're probably at the back end of that top 25 right I mean TCU was was in the preseason top 20 now part of that is based on what they had last
year but they lost a lot of players from last year right Oklahoma we've kind of made those
comparisons before you could argue Kansas should have been a preseason top 25 team to begin with
it's just that there was the nom the name of Kansas on the front of the jersey that even though
last year was a nice season it's like okay well we, well, we'll show it to you, show it to us for more years, right? And I don't blame
anybody nationally for doing that. A lot of times we give the benefit of the doubt to people with
good track records. It's the same as if, you know, you have employees at your work who sometimes you
have somebody who shows up late every day versus somebody who gets everything done. You're going
to give the benefit of the doubt to the person who gets everything done. You just are. That's just how life works. You know, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to the person who gets everything done.
You just are.
That's just how life works.
You know, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt that Alabama is going to have a
good team every year under Nick Saban, right?
You just give it the benefit of the doubt.
You don't want to be the person who bets against streak.
So I understand that from a national perspective.
I'm just saying you could have made the argument.
They should have been ranked in the preseason based on some of the merit of what they had
coming back and what they did from a season ago based on what other teams maybe had in those specific ranges anyway.
Now that they've started 2-0 and won that coin flip game,
kind of going away against Illinois, I think you can put them there.
And if you're cross-comparing, because to get here,
to be like, why should they be ranked, you do have to compare and be like,
well, who should they be ranked over, right?
But I look at the rankings.
Colorado has been an awesome story.
I think Colorado is a
good team. They could win seven or eight games this year. They have an elite offense. Travis
Hunter, Shadur Sanders have been awesome. Isn't Colorado this year, though, just kind of Kansas
last year? You had this program that was really bad, and then you have this quarterback who jumps
onto the scene, and your offense is really good. Now, the defense looked really good against
Nebraska, too, so maybe there is more there. But are we sure that Colorado beating TCU in the first week
is that much better than Kansas owning Illinois in Lawrence?
I don't know.
Should Kansas be ahead of them?
Maybe.
I think they should be ahead of Duke.
I know Duke has the big win over Clemson, but it's like, well,
what if Clemson's just not very good?
That game was 21-17, and then Clemson just dominated from there
in Clemson's FCS game in Week 2.
But Kansas beat Duke last season in a game that was kind of similar
to the Illinois game.
Kansas won by eight over Duke, but that was a game you walked away from
being like, man, I felt like Kansas should have won that game by more.
I know that was last year, but there are a lot of similar faces to Duke
last year to what they are this year, too.
Same goes for Kansas.
So I don't know.
I'd probably have them ahead of Duke.
Why is Miami's win over Texas A&M carrying a lot more water
than Kansas' win over Illinois, for instance, right?
You could argue over Iowa if you want any semblance of offense.
So a couple different there.
And for me, I would have them ranked.
I did have them ranked in my top 25 that I submitted to Locked On.
I think I had them at like number 21 or something like that.
Now, as far as you are making an argument against it,
I guess you could say how much of they're really proven.
FCS win.
What if Illinois is bad?
This week, Illinois is playing Penn State.
This is going to be a great litmus test for Kansas from what Illinois does.
If Illinois plays close with a really talented, good Penn State team, I think that proves it
well. But if Penn State beats Illinois, you know, 45 to seven, then maybe we will say, okay, maybe
how good was that Illinois win? And while I could argue Kansas and would over some of those teams
that I just mentioned, it is also splitting hairs. So you can see it both ways. Also Arkansas is like
27th in the receiving votes. And based on
how last year finished, it's hard for me not to be like, eh, I feel like Arkansas might be better
than Kansas. Although it was a close game, but them being ranked basically 28th shows that they're
right there. So I guess what is the big deal at the end of the day? All right, let's continue on
with some of this talk. What will it take? What is Kansas going to need to get to, to get ranked
in the AP pool top 25? That in just a moment.
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What is it going to take for Kansas to be ranked in the top 25?
They're so close at number 28.
This week you play Nevada, which lost to Idaho and got blown out by USC.
So this win wouldn't necessarily carry much water.
Also, if you only win like 31-17, that's probably not going to look too good. But if you blow them out and kind of have your ho-hum win, even if it's, you
know, 45 to 21 or something like that, then it's more so just going to be about who in front of
you loses. I don't think there's really anything you can do against Nevada this week that's going
to jump you in, right? It's not like you're playing a number 10 opponent and if you beat
them, it's like, oh, now we have to jump them in. You're going to have to need to win, take care of business
and hope teams in front of you lose, which makes me kind of wonder, because if you look at the
college football slate this week, not a lot of great games. Now, maybe that means there's
opportunity for teams to lose to unranked teams and then you slide in front of them. But that kind
of makes me think that this week, it's going to be tough for Kansas to slide into the rankings slide into the rankings based on some of the teams who they're playing and that they're going to be
expected to win and stay in the rankings. So it might be getting to 4-0 that it takes for Kansas
to be ranked in the top 25. And if you can get to 4-0, that would mean you would not just be
beating Nevada. That would mean you would need to beat BYU at home. And I think BYU is a solid
team. I don't know that BYU is an 8-9 win eight, nine win team, but I think they could be in win five, six, seven games,
somewhere in that range in the big 12. They're two and O to this point in time. And they're
playing Arkansas this week. So, I mean, that'll be actually a good litmus test too, right there.
But that would give you another solid win. It would give you two more weeks of having some
carnage among other teams in the polls and everything like that, that I think if they
get to four and O, I would be surprised if they weren't ranked,
to be honest.
I think they have a chance if they win this week,
but if they get to 4-0 with a win over BYU,
I feel very confident that they would be ranked at the end of that.
Now, I'll be very interested to see if they do get ranked at the end of that BYU,
like if they can beat BYU again.
That is going to be more of a coin flip game, right? It's going to be kind of similar to the Illinois game. If you play like that, you of that BYU, like if they can beat BYU again, that is going to be more of a coin flip game, right?
Like it's going to be kind of similar to the Illinois game.
If you play like that, you should beat BYU, but you never know with,
you know, you have college kids, right?
Is everybody going to step up to the same level?
Who knows?
But if you do take care of business and you are a 4-0,
and I do feel like you're ranked, that would set up quite the week five matchup,
which would be against Texas.
And Texas, coming off the Alabama win, is ranked in the top five.
And with some of the funny punchlines and storylines we've had over the years
with Kansas-Texas, if Kansas is ranked in the top 25,
headed into week five against presumably a top five Texas team,
last trip for KU to Austin before Texas leaves for the SEC.
Would it be college game day?
Question mark.
Let's discuss that next and what other games,
what other possible matchups in the future could give potential for KU to have college game day this year, whether it's at home
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All right, so what would it take for KU to get college game day?
I think there's three big ones you'll look at this year that you'd say
there are at least possibilities there.
It doesn't guarantee it.
There's other good games those weeks, but I just talked about it.
The week of Texas, because part of this isn't just who you're playing,
where you could be at, could you be ranked, could you be a good team, could they be a good team,
could they be ranked? It's also what are the other games going on that week in the college football
slate? But the three ones I think they have a chance of is Oklahoma at home, Kansas State at
home, and at Texas in week five. So the week that you play
at Texas in week five, we already went over that if Kansas can go into that game, obviously it
would require Kansas being 4-0 going into that game to where they're ranked in the top 25. They'd
probably be in that 21 to 25 range. Texas, assuming they continue to win out, would probably be
ranked three or four, somewhere in that range, and they'd be undefeated too.
The other games going on that week, you have Utah at Oregon State. That could be a good game. Utah's
a top 15 team. Oregon State's a top 25 team. We'll see if they both continue to win up until that
point over the next couple of weeks. The one thing that might be going against this though,
I don't know if this matters at all. Let's not forget ESPN did have a big hand in kind of disbanding the Pac-12 here like
and it's not just that the Pac-12 disbanded it's that Oregon State has nowhere to go and now they're
left there's Oregon State Washington left off for the Mountain West or Pac-12 merger whatever's
going to end up happening here would ESPN have the gall to do college game day at Oregon State
because I don't think that would be received super well by Corvallis and by Oregon State. So I don't know, even though that could be
a really good game and would be a fun game to go to, I don't know that they would for that specific
reason. Georgia's at Auburn. Auburn's 2-0. They won at Cal. I don't know that Auburn's like that
good. They might be a six or seven win team, but maybe it's interesting. You know, Hugh Freeze
there now and everything. Georgia, your number one team.
I guess there's a chance there.
USC at Colorado, which that should be a really good game.
Colorado could be ranked in the top 20.
USC will be ranked in the top like six or seven,
you would think at that point in time.
Should be a high scoring, fun offensive game.
Two really good quarterbacks.
That one seems like it makes a lot of sense,
but also they're going to Colorado this weekend.
And would they really go back for college game day two weeks later?
I don't know that they would.
It feels like they may have burned that bullet, but there's not a lot of good games this weekend,
so they kind of had to.
So I don't know.
Maybe they won't go back to that one.
Notre Dame at Duke could actually be a lot of fun.
Duke is now in the top 25.
Notre Dame's really good.
That one is definitely one to keep an eye on.
And then LSU at Ole Miss, they always have fun anytime they go to Ole Miss.
That could be a top 20 matchup.
But did it lose some of its luster with LSU losing?
So I don't know that they would pick Texas-Kansas over any of those.
I don't know if they would pick any of those over Kansas
or over the Texas-Kansas game, but I think it's close.
So I think that one's very possible.
The week of the Oklahoma game, you have Ohio State-Wisconsin,
which Wisconsin doesn't look too hot to start.
Tennessee at Kentucky, that could be pretty good.
Oregon and Utah, that could be pretty darn good.
And Colorado at UCLA, but also game day kind of stinks when it's at UCLA.
They don't get a good turnout.
So there's tough competition in that one.
And then the week of the K-State one, you have Colorado at Washington State.
We'll see if both those teams continue to be like top 25 adjacent teams.
Georgia and Tennessee, that's probably the leader in the clubhouse right now.
But what if Tennessee ends up being not as good as we thought? What if they end up being like
seven and 14 going into that game or something? UCLA versus USC. Again, I don't know. We'll see
how that goes. They don't tend to get great crowds when they go to UCLA or USC. Washington
and Oregon State, same thing though. And North Carolina at Clemson, which who knows about Clemson
at this point in time, but that would be an ACC title rematch.
If I am ranking the most possible though,
I think the Texas week is the most likely
for you to be on game day this year.
So I'd say number one would be the Texas game.
I think number two would be the Oklahoma game
and number three would be K-State,
even though like if Kansas goes into that K-State game
at let's say seven and three
and Kansas State is eight and two,
even though that could have implications
on who plays for a big 12 title,
if that would be, you know, if Kansas holds up their end of the bargain
and that would be the situation there,
and even though that would be a fun rivalry to go to and everything,
it's just that Georgia-Tennessee game feels like such a roadblock
and a game-day lock that I have at number three there,
the most likely, I think, of what to happen.
I think that would be the most fun for them to go to,
but I don't know that it's as likely because of that Georgia-Tennessee game.
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