A Nelson Cruz Reunion Doesn't Make Sense For the Mariners
00:00Look, I love Nelson Cruz.He's a great clubhouse fit.And even though he only spent four years in Seattle,he's a franchise legend.But that alone is not a good enough reason for the Marys to bring him back.Let's talk about it here on the Lockdown Marriers podcast.Colby, hit it.You are Locked on Mariners.
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01:15The Mariners are going for the sweep tonight, the San Francisco Giants down in the Bay Area.You can catch all the action on the Mariner's hometown broadcast with Sirius XM via theSXM app. Can they win despite throwing Tommy Malone out on the bump?to counter Alex Cobb.Talk about that a little later on in the show.We'll also talk about Ha-Sung Kim,the Padre's middle infielder,whom you guys have asked about a little bit.
01:41So we're going to do a trade today about himtowards the end of the show.But first, speaking of the Padres,they DFAed Nelson Cruz yesterday morning,which, of course, with rumblingsabout a potential leadership issuein the mayor's clubhouseand the mayor's need for offense in general,
01:58Marys fans are pounding the table for Cruz to make his return to the Pacific Northwest.Now, Colby, I just, I don't think this is a great fit.I love Cruz.I would love for him to, you know, come back in some fashion at some point.I would love for him to be involved with this organization in the future.But right now, as things currently stand with this roster and where this team is still trying to goand the hole that is trying to dig itself out of right now,I just don't know if he makes a lot of sense.
02:31And I assume that we're on the same page on that front, right?I mean, it certainly sounds like you hate Nelson Cruz,so we're not on the same page on that front.Right, right.In terms of-I express a lot of respect and admiration for Cruz.Yes, I hate him.You hate Nelson Cruz confirmed.
02:50So, yeah, here's the deal with Nelson Cruz.Love the guy.Obviously, he would fit great in the clubhouse.He always does.And he's been okay for chunks of the season.He had a really good April.He was pretty good in June, although granted, that was only in, you know,two dozen at bat, so kind of tough to tell.
03:13But he was God awful in May.He was awful last year.He is a pure DH.You can't even fake him in the field at this stage of his career.And the Mariners kind of already have that.guy only better. Like Mike Ford is a better version of what you want NelsonCruz to be. So, you know, bringing back Cruz as much as I love the guy and Iwouldn't be mad if they did. It's just I don't see the fit. I don't think he makes you
03:43better, which is the only point to go out and acquire somebody. I just don't see it. Becausewhen you look at the moves that they would have to make possibly to make room for Nelsoncruise and have it makes sense.You're talking about DFA and Mike Ford.That's laughable.You're talking about DFA and AJ Pollock, which I, I, I'm fine with DFA and Pollock, but like,to replace with a guy who can't run or field, that's not, that's not, that's not,that's not a good way to go.
04:13And by the way, AJ Pollock had himself a really good game last night.Surprise.You let the guy play every once in a while and he can produce for you.Who knew?But, uh, I just, I don't see it because how.how are you going to make Nelson Cruz fit on this roster when he can onlyDH, he can only hit.He's not really done that even this year or last year.
04:34And you already have that guy who is actually hitting.I just, I don't see it.I don't see how you make this, this puzzle work.And the only way you can do it is you have to DFA Pollock.And then you have to demote more and bring up a true outfielder.You need a fourth outfielder.And right now that's Pollock and Dillemore is kind of your fifth outfielder.At least that's how it should be.
04:54So we'll see.You can't have three outfielers and no, you can't play Jose Cabbiero on the outfieldbecause he's fast, as I saw somebody suggest.That's not a thing.That's not a thing.So you need another outfielder.So if you really wanted to squeeze him in, I guess you could DFA Pollock and call up Tremel or Delochor Marlowe to replace Dylan Moore.
05:19And that's how you have your outfielder.But you just lost one of your best base runners off the bench.you just lost some defensive versatility.So, you know, and now Colton Wong has to be in your lineup pretty much, you know,four or five times a week as a result, which he is anyways right now.But yeah, you're just not in a good spot to absorb Nelson Cruz and his role on this teambecause you already have somebody who's fulfilling that role and he's doing it better thanCruz has done it for the last, you know, two and a half or, well, the last two and a half seasons
05:47essentially because remember Cruz wasn't very good when he went to Tampa Bay either.So it's been a while since we've seen.seen really good Nelson Cruz consistently.And I just, I don't know if I want to count on it.If they claimed him, if they signed him after, or as a free agent after he clears waivers,I don't hate it.I'm not going to complain.I just wouldn't get it.
06:10I, because like you laid out, right?Ford is just the better hitter now.Right now, as things currently say, Mike Ford is a better hitter than is a betterhitter than Nelson Cruz.And frankly, I think that he's a better bet.to hit the rest of the way than Nelson Cruz is.Plus, it's July 5th.Track record to me doesn't matter as much up to this point.
06:31And Ford has proven now within what 70 or so played appearancesthat he should be hitting you in your lineup almost every day.And that maybe says more about what the mayor's other options aremore than the Mike Ford right now.But I mean, even yesterday notwithstanding, he's helped you quite a lot as of late.he's also a leftywhich is really important here because you desperately needa lefty hitters and lefty hitters who can hit power
07:00and Ford does thathe also unlike Cruz can at leastfake it in the field at first base and like yesterdaygive Thai France a blow when he needs itCruz can't even do thatCruz can't play for a space stop with that nonsensehe can't play in the fieldand look on the surface
07:21I'm totally fine with DFA and AJ Pollock, even with what he did yesterday.I said on last Wednesday show that they should DFA him, move on,and I laid out some potential moves that they can make in correspondence to that.But you need someone that can actually play in the field if you're replacing A.J. Pollock's spot on the roster.Because Pollock right now, at the very least, the value that he brings you is the ability to allow Julio or Teo or Jerryto DH on occasionor just get a day offbecause Pollock at the very least can still play
07:57a little bit of outfield.He's 89th percent on sprit speed right now.Like he's still a decentfielder and a pretty good athleteeven at this point in his career.So that's more valuable to methan having two DHSson the roster and getting, you know,
08:17the leadership aspect of crews in here,which again,we don't even know if this team actually really needs, right?Because we're not there.I've said this time and time again.We're not actually in the clubhouse.We don't know what these issues are.We don't actually know if there is a leadership issue specifically there.
08:35And we don't know if Nelson Cruz really, you know, gives them much of a boost on that front.Obviously, he's a great guy to have around.No one's denying that.But that only has so much value, especially when right now the issue with the Mariners is a lack of production.or the issue has been a lack of protection,aside from the, you know, last four days, obviously.Just too inconsistent of an offense.And look, if you want to just see for two weeks
09:03if Cruz can be something fine,but again, it's not a great fit.The Mariners should still send Dillamore downor ghost I'll him or whatever,even if they don't bring in Nelson Cruz.So you can make that work with bringing upof Zach Deloche or Cade Marlowe or Taylor Tremel or whoever.And maybe, you know, like, again, maybe that buys you some time until a trade deadline
09:28and you get crews in here and improve vibes, maybe hits for you or whatever, and fans will beexcited.All that is great.I just, it doesn't make sense from a pure roster building perspective.And so for me, it's a no again.I don't hate it if they bring them in.I just don't get it.And I don't get how it works.
09:49It's honestly, it's not that far off in terms of ridiculousness as, you know, saying that you should bring in Felix Hernandez to start today because you need a number five starter for one time through the rotation.Like anybody pound on the table for that?No, because they want good players, right?They want better players and what they have.At least you should.So it just doesn't make sense, man.You do need to improve your bench.I just don't think that Nelson Cruz honestly does that enough for it to make sense.
10:19So we'll see.I'm not going to be mad if they bring him in because I love Nellie,but I just I wouldn't quite understand what they were going for unless they're convinced that,you know, Nelson Cruz can hit pretty much like he did before he went to Tampa Bay,which is a pretty big assumption.Look, if you get April Nelson Cruz, that was a 323, 33, 338, 565 hitter, then absolutely.Absolutely.At least take the shot on that.
10:48Yep.And that's tiesThat's the closest we'll get to tie saying trade tie franceBut Mike FordFirst Baseman of the futureYou heard it here firstRight trade tie FranceFirst second baseman
10:59In May he had a negative 6 WRC plusAnd then in June had like a10 hold on I have the numbers here105 WRC plus in JuneWhich is fineYou know 263 317 447You're better with Mike FordIf that's all Cruz is
11:17is 105.I just,I'm,I'm not willing to bet and,and mess up my roster as is on Cruz being the April version of himself,when for the last year and a half,two years,he's definitely shown that he's on the decline.
11:39And it's sad.And it's sad because,you know,he's beaten father time,time and time again,but it seems like it's finally,you know,caught up to him at 43 years old.
11:47And also on just quickly, we got to run, but quickly on the note of, you know, DFA and Ford for Cruz, which is insanely laughable for a multitude of reasons, but none more so than the fact that Cruz is 43 years old.He's a rental and Ford.Well, I'm not saying that Ford is going to be a part of your long term plan in 2024 or 2025.He does have club control and he's 31 years old.Like to me on just that front advantage for that's that's a no brainer.So sounds like he's saying it.So look, it's totally fine if you guys want Nelson Cruz, whatever.Like, I don't blame you.
12:28I love Nelly.We love Nellie.But yeah, just I don't really get it personally.All right.Let's talk about the Mariners and the Giants tonight.Mariner's going for the sweep.We're going over that Tommy Malone versus Alex Cobb.In just a moment, but first, a reminder this episode of the Lockdown Mariners podcast is brought to you.
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13:46Let's talk about that game.Tommy Malone spot starting in place of Bryce Miller,who has gone on the IAL with a blister issue.Nothing to worry about on that front.Again, like we talked about a couple days ago,just makes sense with the All-Star break coming up.He's only going to miss one start.But Tommy Malone came up.
14:05Who did he pitch against?I can't even remember.Colorado.It's Colorado.Came up, pitched against Colorado.I think he went for scoreless or maybe gave up a run or something.It was like four and two thirds.Yeah, it was a solid start.
14:17So hopefully we get that version of Tommy Malone,but this is also a much better lineup than Colorado's for sure.So Colby, how do the Mariners win this game?How do they pull this?Because the only person who's scored against the Mariners is Blake Sable.So it's true.Good point.Yeah, don't tempt fate here, though.
14:43How do they win?They score runs.Like, they're going to have to.And it's not going to be an easy task.Alex Cobb, basically an ace.We've talked about this before.You guys aren't listening to the Patreon show.I like Alex Cobb as a trade candidate.
14:59Ty thinks he sucks.I guess we'll see tonight.There he goes exaggerating again.I'm just like, yeah, maybe Alex Cobb is not actually worth what you want to trade for him.But did I want a trade firm to you?Anyways.Don't derail us.Yeah, yeah.
15:13So, yeah, you're going to have to score.I'm planning simple.You can't really trust Malone.I think he'll be competitive.I think he'll keep you in it.But Malone's version of keeping you in a game is five innings, three or four runs.So, you know, we'll have to wait and see how he looks.And you never know when you call these guys up.
15:32But Malone knows how to pitch.He generally throws strikes.So your offense is probably going to have to score five or six, which they've been doing pretty regularly the last, you know, a week or so.So that's a good sign.But again, Cobb is a difficult pitcher.He's got that splitter, fastball splitter combo.So going to be a little bit tougher on lefties than usual.So we'll see how Scott wants to maneuver his lineup.
15:58I assume he'll just start all of his lefties because he does that anyways.But yeah, they're going to have to score.I mean, playing simple, they're going to have to score four or five runs at least to win this game.The good news is that, you know, Logan's complete game yesterday,the bullpen is completely rested.they can be really aggressive with that.But you still do kind of want to hold back.You really want Malone to give you five or six if you can because you have four games after this with no days off in between.
16:23So you don't want to have to have your bullpen cover six innings tonight.They can do it, but you prefer them not to.So yeah, you're just, you're going to have to score.You're going to have to not make bad mistakes.You can't give San Francisco up.You can't give them an inch in this game because,against Malone, he doesn't have the stuff to pitch out of that trouble.So you got to make the routine plays.
16:47You're probably going to have to make one or two really good plays.You're going to have to score guys when you get an opportunity early,and you're just going to have to play a really clean game.And again, thankfully, they've done that the last four days.Well, the one game against Tampa Bay on Sunday wasn't exactly the cleanest game,but whatever.For the most part, they've played pretty clean ball.They're going to have to do it again.
17:11and they're going to have to score.So, you know, I think, honestly,they're probably going to put up five or six to win this game.Can they do it?Sure, you know, San Francisco will kick the ball around.So find a way to put it in play.And hopefully you can kind of grind down Alex Cobb and get them out of the game early.You know, like I said during the sleeper ad,
17:32I think this could be a big game for Julio and Cal and it needs to be, right?And it needs to be a big game for, you know, Mike Ford.Not a Mike Ford's in the lineup.Yeah.You're going to need at least a couple of these guys to pop tonight in order for you to win this game because you're, you know, Malone and company, probably going to give up a couple of runs at least.We might also see Darren McCacken, which I know is going to make a certain someone in the comments happy.No, he was demoted.Oh, he was?
18:00He was demoted to make room on the 26, man.For Tommy?Yeah.And Fred Murphy did the 60 Macacken demoted.I missed that.I missed that today.Well, there you go.I'm sorry to the Darren McCacken stand in her comments.
18:17It's over.It's over.You can't wait for him to be DFA'd.It's going to be glorious.You know, it's sad.McCacken will probably get a start for the Mariners at some point this year, like another one.Probably going to happen.Will he though?
18:31Will he though?Well, if they don't trade for anybody at the deadline, maybe.If they do, then he's behind that guy and Hancock at that point.and maybe Marco who I mean Tommy Malone might get you know like he's going to get DFA'd again I would assume after this but he'll probably make his way back to Tacoma so yeah Malone's going to get DFAed after this game and then that might be where Barrow meets the team in Texas so keep an eye out for that bro is already on the 40 man so you don't have to make another move there but if you do DFA and Malone obviously you have a free 40 man spots you can really add anybody RileyO'Brien, A.J. Puckett, Isaiah Campbell,although Campbell's also on the 40 men.So we'll see.But again, this is why it was absolutely critical to get those first two,
19:21because now you're kind of playing with house money.No game is like unimportant, especially when you're in the position the Mariners are.But it is a lot easier to swallow.Okay, you know what?We lost with Tommy Malone on the mound, but we still won the series.Like that's a really easy sell.It's not about win streaks.It's about getting on runs.
19:41right winning 14 of 20 winning 16 of 22 etc etc etc etc 18 of 26 like yeah that's what it's about here soyeah if you lose the win streak which is the longest active win streak in major league baseball right right nowwhich is funny also weird because it's only four games but uh yeah it's it's it's fine just you knowmaintain the momentum and what's really important here is that if you do lose this game tonight don'tlose the momentum because they have done that time and time again where they have a bump of the road and then they allow that to snowball and to a second loss and a third loss and a fourth loss and you don't want to lose the ground that you made up because you can't afford to do that anymore no you know you don't have to run the table before the break you could lose if you go three and two in the last five games before the break that's a really good run uh you you would have done exactly what we saidyou needed to do to kind of give Jerry the incentive to go out and buy. So, you know,don't panic after a loss. You're, you are after this going to go face, you know, a fairlybanged up Astros team. Al Tuve is going for an MRI today. Sounds like he's almost certainly
20:56headed to the IL with a, um, with a shoulder, I believe it is. Uh, Framber is going to starttomorrow. Like they've already kind of announced that. But Christian Javier might, might sitout this series. So you have a shot. You know, again, you're not facing the 100%.healthy and obviously Yordon is not going to play.So you're not facing the 100% healthy Astros.So get out of today.Hopefully the bullfins in good shape and go try and find a way to at least split a four-gameseries on the road against the still very good Houston Astros team.
21:26And if you could do that, it's a pretty successful road trip.And you have maintained the momentum that we think you need to maintain to ride into thesecond half.You're listening to the Lockdown Marinus podcast.Thank you again for making us.your first listen.So Hassan Kim,Padre's middle infielder,
21:4627 years old,having a really good year right now.2.8F4.A lot of that is defense,but he is slashing 257, 344,411. That's a 112 WRC plus.He's walking a bit,11.4% of the time.
22:00Decent K rate,22.7%.He's got 10 home runs this year as well.You guys have asked about hima little bit for the Mariners,because obviously the Padres having a really, really disappointing year,even more disappointing than the Mariners, which is wild to think.But it's been a big lead down there in Southern California.
22:21So maybe Kim is someone that's on the move,but he's still got two more years left of club control after this one.The last year on that is a mutual option,which is $7 million with a $2 million buyout.So only one year then after this.right because he can't he can because he can say no yeah he can say no right so yeah technically one yearleft of club control right uh potential one and a half sure yeah yeah sure uh so so what do you thinkabout kim as a potential fit for the mariners and do you think the padres are actually
22:56entertaining that idea of trading him i think the podres have to be willing to entertain anymove right now that is not a good that's not a well put togetherteam. It's an expensive team. It's a talented team. It's not well put together. Surprise.You gave AJ a preller a blank check and he screwed it up. What? Who would haveguessed, but I think you have to consider everything. I do think they would look at moving otherguys first instead of Kim, but I think you might be able to sneak them away here. And Kim would,you know, if acquired, he would certainly become the everyday second baseman. The Marinersdesperately need. If for no,
23:38the reason he is an incredible defensive upgrade over colton long and even Jose cabiero and cabbiero has beenreally solid at second but kim is 100th percentile and outs above average he can pick it at secondhe can also play short and he can play third um so it kind of checks two boxes he's your everyday secondbasement and he makes dillan more you know expendable so um yeah obviously you know you're nothe's not a guy who hits the ball hard a ton uh does have some problemswith the 10 home runs, 14 bags, stolen bags.That's a good number.And there are some CTZ elements to him.
24:15He doesn't whiff.81st percentile on whiff rate, 94th percentile in Chase,82nd percentile in base on ball,and 83 percentile in sprint speed.So he is a good player.He's not a great player because the bat isn't quite where it would need to beto cross over, but he is a defensiveyou know, wizard essentially across the infield.
24:41He is a very good base runner.He does have some power and he does get on base a fair amount.So he's a good player.He's going to be pricey.There's really no doubt about it.He's also like you said, he's, you know, a year and a half,at least of club control.And he's only 27 years old.
24:57So you're going to have to essentially make the Padres listen to you.You're going to have to be pretty aggressive with your offer.I would assume,especially when you look at how shallow the middle infield classes in next year's free agency.So I think it's possible.I think he might be available.I just think he's going to be quite expensive.And he's not the bat that you really need.
25:19If you're AJ Preller, though, are you even picking up the phone if you see a 206 area code?I mean, I don't know.If you're A.J. Preller, are you trying to make moves to save your job?Because I think, you know, the calls for his job have to be getting louder and the hot seat has to be getting warmer.for Preller.So I don't know if he's even in a position where he wants to sell because he could lose his job if he does.So, I mean, probably lose his job either way.But yeah, it's not an ideal situation for Preller either.
25:49So I don't know.I don't know what he does.I do think that he probably at this point has to trade Blake Snell.I think he has to trade Michael Waka.I think he should try and trade Juan Soto.But he's got a lot of big contracts.that he can't move.He's got a lot of players that aren't great fits.
26:10And even some of the medium range guys like Jake Croninworth,it's a seven-year, $80 million deal.Now, that's not a ton of money,but it's enough to knock out some clubs.And with Cronerworth struggling again,it might be a tough sell.So you Darvish just signed a massive extension.You're not trading him.
26:29The Padres are in a bit of trouble here.And Kim is a guy who could potentially net them,something that can help them as soon as next year.If you're the Mariners,you're obviously laughing at any attempt to get Gilbertor Kirby or Wu or Miller.And I just,I don't know if you have the prospect where it makes sense
26:49because Kim is not the bat that you need.He is a good bat.You need a 130 WRC plus type of guy.And I would sacrifice some defense to get that.So, yeah, I just,I don't know.It's just tough to know what Kim would cost.and that's what that's what makes this conversation really because i if you're the padre's why would
27:10you trade him for like emerson hancock that doesn't well that's what that's what i was going to sayin terms of like who the merriers would be willing to trade and who makes the most sense for thepodre's timeline prospect wise that would be hancock but hancock alone probably isn't gonnathat's he's not good enough to be the headliner for a hawsong him deal just not soAnd the Padres, I don't know if the Padres weren't bulk either.So I don't know if you can do bulk.I can pitch something here.Okay.
27:42No, not Thai France.It's Thai France.It's Thai France.Just think about it for a second.No, no, no, no, no, no.Think about it.Go right now.Go ahead.
27:52Right now, Jake Croninworth is the first basement.That's not where he should be playing.It puts more pressure on his bat.He doesn't have a first basement bat.Croninworth needs to be playing second.They can't play.He can't play second because Kim is just significantly better.So, if you were the.
28:05Padres, you are trading Kim for an extra year of Thai France.You're putting Thai France at first.You're moving Croninworth to second.If you're the Mariners, you are, you are trading essentially.Thai France is above average bat, which is really hit or miss.There's no power whatsoever.As a first, compared to other first baseman, Thai France does not have power.You're getting significantly better at second base.
28:28You're finding your solution to second base next year, too.and what's easier to find on the open market right now?A guy who could stand at first base and hit 30 home runs or, you know, a gold glove secondbasement who's not a zero at the plate.It makes a lot of sense as much as you might hate it.It does make sense.So are you getting to replace Typhrance right now?I don't know.
28:48I'll go trade it for C.J. Cron.Like I'll put Mike Ford out there for until I find somebody.Have you seen that C.J. Cron has done this season?Yeah, I know. It's not great. It's not great.I'm not up on my first basement who might be available.Colby.Colby.I speak for everyone here.
29:03I think I speak for everyone here and saying no.Then I speak for the intelligent crowd where I say it makes sense.You have to consider it.No.You have to.Stop trying to trade Thai friends.Tell me what part of that argument doesn't make any sense, aside from trading Thai France.Because you're getting worse offensively.
29:23Are you?Yes.Ty France is not very good compared to other first baseman.He's not.He's posting like a 115 WRC plus right now.Who cares?With no power.He's wildly inconsistent.
29:37He's always getting hurt.He's not a great defensive first baseman.Ty France is a good player.So is Kim.Neither are all stars.Neither are great players.And Kim plays a more valuable position.And he plays it much better.
29:49He also adds speed and versatility to this lineup,which Thai France does not do.And hey, you know what?Kim has more home runs than Thai France.He's a better power hitter than France's as well.honestly the Padres should laugh at this offerKim is better Kim is a better playeralso more club control and whatever
30:08oh so all of a sudden we only care about club controlnot impact nowgotcha sureKim's a 4 win player Thai France is a 3 win playerbut sure the extra year of club controlshould make all the difference in the worldnoyou're wrong
30:23noAlex RedugosureHassankoso you would trade Thai France forworst player. An outfielder? A lefty hitting outfielder? Yeah, Kim's better.Verdugo's a three and a half one player. Kim's a four one player. Is he a better fit for theroster though? You need a second basement bad. I think you can make me. You do, but you also need
30:46lefty pop. Fordugo's a lefty pop guy since when? I mean, like he hits for doubles. Oh,that, oh, okay, cool. Cool. Yeah, sure. From the left side. That's totally for sure. Okay. Why can't youjust go get Alex Verdugo and Kim.Okay.You only have one Thai France, though.Okay.Trade him for Kim.Okay.
31:09And then who are you trading for Verdugo?Hancock.Hancock, Class A.Topa.I don't know.Who cares?I'm sick of this idea that Thai France is some untouchable in that you can only tradeThai France if you're getting some kind of superstar in return.
31:29Thai France isn't a superstar.He's a good hitter.He's not a great.great hitter.And he's not a guy who honestly fits.He's a first baseman who doesn't hit home runs.And he's not hitting 300 to make up for it.Ty Francis isn't that guy.
31:44I think we know who Ty France is.He's 270, 3.30, 340.And he's 415, 420, 430 slug.That's fine.That's a good player.If that is a second baseman, that's an all-star.As a first baseman who hurts you on the bases,because she's kind of a guy.
32:02that's a guynot a guyso yeahmiss me with this tie france is untouchableBSit's garbagenever said thatnever said that
32:11you just didyou said you wouldn't tradetie france for a better playerbecause of one extra yearof club controlthat's a time for impactI guess we'll just say itColby wants to win more than tie does
32:21it's it's not just thatit's also like having to address that spot nowit's a lot of there's a multitudewhat is easier to find a first baseor a second basement.Answer the question.A good first basement,but also you made a great point.
32:37The Padres are probably laughing at youif you offer just France for Kim.So that means that you're going to have to add moreon top of France.And I just don't want to do that.I don't want to do that.Oh,see,
32:47now you don't want to.Okay.Okay.Before.No.Sure.I don't want to do it.That wasn't in consideration before,
32:52but now.Now that Colby's making all these excellent points.Personally,I got to dance.I got to change the subject a little bit here.All right.I think that's good.Yeah.
33:03good episode good episodeall rightthank you guys so much fortuning in to the lockdown Mariners podcastagain you can catch the Mariners and the Giants tonighton the Mariners hometown broadcast with serious XMvia the SXM appfor Colby Pat node I'm Tadian gonzales
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