Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - After 18 Months of Rumors, Will the Mariners and Cardinals Finally Make a Trade?

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're continuing our offseason divisional trade preview series with a look at the National League Central. Who on the Cardinals, Brewers, Cubs, Reds, and Pirates could be an option for the Marriors this winter. We'll discuss coming up here on the Lockdown Marrists podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Ohoy, Sailors. It is Thursday, October 24, 2024.
Starting point is 00:00:34 This is Tyning Azales and Colby Patnaud. Locked on Marries Podcasts, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team, every day. And we are continuing our divisional trade preview series. Yesterday, we did the NL East. Today, we are doing the NL Central and tomorrow we'll be doing the NL West.
Starting point is 00:00:50 But today we'll be focusing on the Pirates, Reds, Cardinals, Cubs, and Brewers looking for potential trade targets for the Marys on all five of those teams. Before we do that, shout out to our title sponsor today, Game Time. Download the game app, create an account. Use the
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Starting point is 00:01:49 and in conversations like this over the last few years. Still around Brian Reynolds. Remember all the hype we had about Brian Reynolds, you know, for. Fanfiction Friday legend. Hall of family. That's right. Brian Reynolds. And he still can hit.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I mean, 275. 344, 447, 24 homers, just 10 stolen bases, 8% walk rate, 22, like, it's all pretty good. One of the worst outfield defenders in baseball, like worse than Randy Rosaena. And that's really weird because just a couple of years ago, he was like a legitimate center fielder. And they've even moved him to left field and he's gotten worse and worse and worse every year. He's 29. He still owed $87.5 million. His contract runs through the 2031 season.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It's a lot of money to put up for a guy who, or at least seemingly is declining athletically, still can hit, but he's 29 years old. So, you know, you do have to worry about the cliff. And obviously, it's not an egregious contract by any stretch. When you look at what the Mariners already have in house, Reynolds, does he really fit? Not really. I mean, I want some Victor Robles insurance as much as the next guy. but $87 million worth.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Seems a bit too rich for me. There's some like, I mean, there's tertiary player like Connor Joe, who I know you like a little bit, but he really slowed down in the second half. He's going to make about three or four million bucks in ARB this year. He's always good for a couple months of production. He's one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Sure. Another guy who I think will probably be popular amongst Mariner fans that I'm just not interested in it at all. Brian Hayes, Um, his contract runs through 2031. He saw us $49 million, uh, left for that. And this year he put up a 59 WRC plus. And he wasn't, you know, super spectacular defensively either.
Starting point is 00:03:48 This isn't a guy who's making up for that, that, you know, I mean, I don't think anybody can make up for a 59 WRC plus regardless of their defensive production. But he certainly didn't do that this year. So offensively, you know, not really a ton like you want to spend significant resources to go get a backup catcher and Joey, Bart. No. So yeah, Brian Reynolds, maybe you put that on the back burner. Pitching wise, there's a couple dudes. David Bednar is the name that's going to steal a lot of, a lot of attention here. But dude wasn't all that great this year. According to fan graphs, he was
Starting point is 00:04:28 objectively bad, which, yeah, 428 FIP in a 577 ERA. Yeah, not great. WAC really got away from him, he's going to make quite a bit of money in ARB, so I don't think the managers are going to be super interested in him. They might be interested in Dennis Santana, who is having, or who he's having had a very, very good year this year. You look at what he did.
Starting point is 00:04:50 44 innings, a 10.15K for 9, a 2.23 based on ball for 9. ratios Jerry and Justin are absolutely going to love. You know, it's a really, really good profile here, 244 ERA 244 XERA worth 1.1F4. So Santana is a guy who's pretty interesting pitch for Texas for a while, so they're pretty familiar with him. Dennis Santana is actually kind of maybe the guy from this team that I would be most interested in, as weird as that is to say.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah, Colin Holderman as well. He finished 93rd percentile on breaking run value. So that's another guy to keep. keep an eye on his sweeper this year induced just a 165 batting average against an 39.3% whiff rate. Yeah, a couple of bullpen arms. Yeah. But that's pretty much it, which was kind of the story with the last episode, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It's mostly bullpen guys. Cincinnati, I know you like Jake Fraley here, potentially as a fourth outfield, Victor Robles insurance option? I say go big and just go get Ellie de la Cruz. Sure. I think that's doable. Simple, simple, simple. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:16 But no, I mean, like Jonathan India is a guy who could make sense as, you know, mid as that is, whatever, could make sense there. Jake Fraley, I like as part of the Victor Robles insurance plan. Guy who hits righty is pretty well, can do kind of a little bit of everything he's got more pop in the bat than he showed this year but steel 20 bags doesn't strike out draws walks blah blah blah blah uh t j friedel is kind of an interesting guy here who played most of this year hurt uh but again when you look at what the mariners where the marries are at with their outfield any outfield addition is going to be a tough fit it's not as as
Starting point is 00:06:54 cut and dry as it was even a couple months ago that they need outfielders so uh yeah i think India, I think Fraley, steer, maybe, again, terrible defender doesn't really have a spot. Noel V Marte, potentially, coming back. But again, how do you get
Starting point is 00:07:12 Noel V Marte? We don't know exactly what the Reds plans are this winter, but they do have some infield depth. They're going to get Matt McLean back. They're going to, they have Cam Collier down on the farm. So I think India's probably getting traded.
Starting point is 00:07:26 He's probably the guy that makes the most sense here. On the pitching side, of things. I'm pretty interested in Fernando Cruz. He's getting out of Great American Ballpark and pitching in a little more forgiving environment like T-Mobile Park. Does that help with the home runs? Maybe a little.
Starting point is 00:07:40 He's pre-R, but he is in his late 30s, mid to late 30s, just late-start guy. So Cruz's pretty interesting. If you're looking for that kind of back-and-bulping guy, also I'll throw out Alexis Diaz, Edwin's brother,
Starting point is 00:07:55 as a guy who, you know, elite extension, the 100th percentile extension. He's right there with Logan Gilbert, pretty good slatter. Good stuff. Had a step back year this year, though. So there's some stuff there that the Mariners would need to figure out. But yeah, Alexis Diaz, I think would be a nice add to the back end of your bullpen.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Just, you know, guys who take the pressure off of Andres Munoz a little bit. And, you know, you hope Gregory Santos is a part of that this upcoming year. And Yope Brash eventually gets back this upcoming year. And they can also help take. But you still need somebody to do it who's done. done it before. So Diaz is a guy I like. Cruz is a guy I like. So the Reds actually have quite a few guys who make a good deal since for Seattle. I don't know if they have any like true impact players that Seattle would like. They just don't have that guy at third base or whatever. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:44 I think the Reds actually do have quite a few potential answers, let's call it, to some of the Mariners less talked about needs. If that makes sense. Okay. So we have. We have. have three more teams left here in the NL Central to go over. The Cubs, the Cardinals, and the Brewers. We'll be going over a couple of those here in just a moment. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Marries podcast is brought to you by Fandul. NFL fans can start the season with a big return on Fandul, America's number one sportsbook. So when you get a hunch in the middle of the game, you can check out the latest stats of you live play
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Starting point is 00:09:56 Today we are doing the NL Central. we just talked about the Cincinnati Reds and the Pittsburgh Pirates. And now let's talk about the St. Louis Cardinals who have been connected to the Mariners and trade rumors a lot over the last year, year and a half. And nothing has come of it. But I assume once again, this offseason, these two teams are going to be connected a lot with one another. Let's just get this out of the way because I've seen this a lot, potentially, Louis Castillo trade here where the mayor is bringing back Nolan Aeronado thoughts I'm out no yeah I'm out hard pass Aeronado is a declining player who only hit 16 home runs this
Starting point is 00:10:44 year slugged under 400 uh still very good defender but their Aeronado's contract is ridiculously like complex there's a lot of deferred money and who pays the deferred money who you know blah, blah, blah, not to mention just off the top, you have him through the 2028 season and he's going to cost you $74 million for a declining player. No, no. I just not interest in that really at all. Assuming that he is the player he was this year next year, which hasn't been the case for the last couple of years, Aronado and Castillo are essentially a wash in terms of value. But Aronado is going to cost me more money in the long run than Castillo is.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I don't know that he actually, he's a 102 WRC plus guy this year. And again, it sure looks to me that he has entered the decline stage of his career. So I just don't want to be on the hook for that money. And I think Castillo is just a better bet, quite frankly, than Aeronado. So no, I'm not interested in that either. Yeah, no. Plus, he's going to be 34 years old for most of the year. He's only going to be 33 for like the first three weeks of the season.
Starting point is 00:11:56 So, yeah. Yeah. It's just, it seems like a pretty safe bet that this is just the cliff. He's finally started to reach it. He's still good enough to be a league average bat with, you know, pretty good defense. But that's, that's it. And that's not worth what he's getting paid right now. Still a starting player, but again, he's still owed $74 million over the next four years.
Starting point is 00:12:18 That's before you take into account the deferred money, which is a lot. So I'm going to list a bunch of other names here. And you just tell me who you want to talk about, uh, Alec Berlison, Brendan, Donovan, Lars Neupar, Nolan Gorman. Any of those guys stand up? Yes. Yes to all of them. Jordan Walker.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yes to all of them. But again, how do I get these guys? Right. We talked about Donovan on Fan Fiction Friday last week. We had a deal proposed to us for Donovan and Jojo Romero,
Starting point is 00:12:57 It's one of their relievers, lefty relievers. Yeah. But yeah, I just don't really know what Donovan's going to cost you. He's our one. So you get him for three years. But that also, now it sounds like the Cardinals are also going to be shaving some money off the payroll. You listen like they're not going to bring back Goldschmidt. Sounds like they really are motivated to trade Sunny Gray.
Starting point is 00:13:21 They have some big contracts on their books that are not going to be easy for them to to, you know, trade, but also like this is a team that's always acted like a mid-market team. They are. And they still spend a good amount of money that I don't think you would call them cheap. This is not a team that's going to run, you know, $230 million payroll. So just not going to do that. So, yeah, I think they're going to be looking to sell off some contracts here. But a guy like Brennan Donovan, a guy like Lars Neupar, they're going to make three million bucks this year each.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Like, those aren't the guys you really want to sell. I mean, at least not right now and probably not for prospects. So that's the hard part, right? If you're the Mariners, like, you want to trade away prospects to get major leaguers because trade away major leaguers for major leaguers, you're probably not going to get much better as a result of that. Your major league roster. Occasionally it works, Luke Reilly for Jose Caviero, and everybody's happy.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And you get a little bit better because of it. But most of the time you trade major leaguer for major leaguer, you're kind of taking a lateral move here. And I don't know, Donovan. and I don't know if Donovan and Lars Newbar specifically are going to be available for, you know, I don't think the Cardinals are stupid enough to be like, give us Bryce Miller for one of these two guys. I think they'd be like, hey, give us Bryce Miller and we'll give you Donovan and, you know, whatever, somebody in their farm system that they kind of like.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But I'm not trade. There's nobody on this team on this roster that I'm trading one of my pitchers for. So there's probably not a realistic package that they could put together. That would make me interested in trading one of my four younger starters. I don't think there are Louis Castillo fit because, again, they're trying to like trade away like Sunny Gray's contract. That is not a team that's going to take on a $24 million starting pitcher. They're trying to get rid of their own $24 million starting pitcher. So yeah, I mean, Gorman is pre-arb.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I went to war with people last winter about Gorman. there were a lot of Mariner fans who wanted to trade Miller Wu for Gorman last winter. Yeah, 38% shrinkout, right? Yeah, yeah, Gorman had an awful year this year. He ends up getting sent down. He slashed 203, 271, 400. It's an 87 WRC plus. Like you mentioned, a 37.6% K rate over 107 games play.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That's 402 played appearances. That is awful. It's also not a glove. like it's not like you can make up for it with defense uh yeah like i'm still interested in the guy like gorman but not for one of my arms not for one of those arms so yeah like i would take the shot on him right if i'm getting a serious deal on him that's the shot you take on like the shot you're talking about is like logan evans and brandon or uh i almost said brandon williamson ben williamson uh like that's the shot you take and even then you're probably a little bit like i guess we'll see
Starting point is 00:16:22 uh like burleson as much as like he's had a pretty nice year again terrible defender at the end of the day a 106 w rc plus that for yeah that should be playing for space yeah like or d h so right new bar again we've talked about new bar doesn't really hit lefties pretty good like he's a good player large newpar is a good player he's not a superstar he's not an all star he's not a guy that you give away top five prospects for and neither is donovan so i i think the cardinals have a lot of guys that make sense for Seattle. I'm a little unsure of what the Cardinals are going to want. Are they going to be open to trading some of their major leaguers for prospects?
Starting point is 00:16:59 If they are, the Cardinals are one of the better trade fits for the Mariners this winter. If they're not, they're basically not a fit. One other name I'll throw out there. I know we were talking about bats, but Ryan Helsley, again, you want to spend a little bit. You want to go get that guy, that co-anchor in the back of your bullpen with Andreas Munoz, go trade for Ryan Helsley. really good. But, you know, aside from those guys,
Starting point is 00:17:25 probably, that's probably about it. I think it's those handful of bats that we talked about. Ryan Halsley, as much as I like Sunny Gray, it would be stupid for the Mariners to acquire him, unless, of course, they're trading Luis Castillo or something like that. But again, he's making so much money that. Yeah, no, it doesn't work. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Again, as much as I like Sunny Gray. Same goes for Miles Mikolas. But yeah, I think Ryan Halsley is the guy here. If you're looking to the car, and maybe it's something like, like I would try, they're looking to save money, right? If that's a big motivator for them,
Starting point is 00:18:04 I would trade them four years of Gregory Santos for one year of Ryan Halsley. Like, that's something I would do. Like, I would trade them Logan Evans for one year of Ryan Halsley. So, you know, Hellsley's probably the guy I'm most interested in on this team. But yeah, obviously the Burlesons, the Walker's, the admin or Tommy, not on the team anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:29 The, uh, the, the, Brennan Donovans. Uh, those are the guys. They all kind of look, they all kind of feel like the same guy. Uh, those are the guys that like, yeah, at the right price. Joe randoms. Pretty much. At the right price. Yeah, I'm interested in all those guys.
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Starting point is 00:20:26 And you're listening to the Lockdown Marrars podcast. We are combing through the NL Central for potential trade targets for the Marys this winter. We have done the Pirates, Reds, and Cardinals. Cardinals pretty extensive discussion. I think we're going to have another one here. Maybe not as much, but there's quite a few options here when it comes to the Chicago Cubs.
Starting point is 00:20:48 We've obviously talked a lot about Nico Horner on. the show. I want to start here, though. They traded for him at the deadline. Would they think at all about moving on from ESOC Paredes already? Yes. Okay. The problem is I think they want pitching. Right. So it's the same discussion as we had about Paredes. Pretty much. He was on the race. Just one year less of club control, not as productive, not coming off of as productive of a season. so probably less valuable he was bad with the cubs yeah and it's particularly in the second half but yeah bad with the cubs uh in particular so yeah interesting uh guy there uh paredes like i think the mariners would still be interested uh obviously they they need third base help but yeah the fact
Starting point is 00:21:44 that he's got a year less of club control the fact that he's coming off of a really really bad finish uh to the season yeah i mean i think that he'll be made available. My gut feel, though, is that they're going to look at this and they're going to be like, give us Brian Wu for ESOC parade is. And you're just going to be like, no, I wouldn't do it last winter. I'm certainly not doing it this winter when he has less club control and is coming off of a bad year, or a bad second half at least.
Starting point is 00:22:12 So, yeah. Yeah, again, like a lot of these guys who talk about, should the mayors be interested? Sure. Is it likely they can get a deal done for this specific player? No, probably not. but yeah parade is absolutely should be in the discussion so you guys already know how we feel about Nico Horner I don't think we really need to go over that again
Starting point is 00:22:32 it's a good player yeah totally good player it's mostly defense up the middle defense and base running mostly but he's he's gonna get on base he's gonna hit for average yep just a good solid player yep um anyone else positionally speaking sure obviously kind of the big question mark here is Cody Bellinger. Does he opt in or opt out?
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's one of the more up in the air opt out or option questions out there. And he was pretty good this year, not great. You know, he played in 130 games, so he did miss some time. 266, 325, 426, 109 WRC Plus. You trade for him, you own $52 million over the next few years. but he still is young in his prime. So I do think that he would make some sense for the Mariners. Again, money being the issue there, $26 million is a big chunk.
Starting point is 00:23:34 That's more or less what we have predicted they have to spend a total this winter. Are you just going to blow it all on Cody Bellinger? Probably not. But Bellinger makes some sense. Other guys that make sense. Ian Hap and Say a Suzuki. They certainly make sense. And they make sense in a Luis Castillo for one of those two guys type of sense.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Because the Cubs would take on a little bit of money, but the Cubs need starting pitching. That is the missing element right now. And if Bellinger opts in, they have the outfield pretty much in place. They have Hap. They have Suzuki. They have Crow Armstrong. They have Bellinger. They have Tockman.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Like, they can afford to trade one of those outfills. fielders. So obviously, I think you would prefer saying a Suzuki, just a little bit more upside there, but half is probably the guy most likely to be moved. Again, because of their, I don't want to say bloated, but because of their appropriately high salaries that they've earned, it makes it a little difficult for the Mariners to acquire either one unless they're swapping out a salary with that contract. So, yeah, I think the outfield half, Suzuki, Bellinger, or all.
Starting point is 00:24:51 all interesting. I don't think you could get Michael Bush without trading one of the Wu or Miller, but if you could, that'd be great. I think he's actually a pretty nice fit. Strikeout rate's pretty high, but the power should play at Team level park. And, you know, again, a super, super dark horse here. I think there's a shot. Dan Svyswanson has moved this winter. I just don't know that he makes much sense for Seattle with all the money that he's still owed. But yeah, there's actually quite a few bats here. Hap, Suzuki, Horner, Bush, Wellinger, parade is. Like, there's quite a few bats.
Starting point is 00:25:24 That makes some sense for Seattle. It's not a ton here on the pitching side of things. Again, the Cubs' weakness is pitching. They need pitching. I will say, like, it's kind of like a, I don't know, kind of like a guy like the Mariners might look at and be like, we can fix him. Like, we can get more out of it. Hayden West Nesky.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Oh, yeah. It's pretty interesting. Some good peripherals there, 67 innings. He's got starting experience. Kind of went back and forth this year for the. Cubs. But 8.9, K per 9, 2.8 based on ball per 9, 393 FIP, like, or XIP, like 3-86, ERA, like there's something there.
Starting point is 00:26:07 There's a little something there. But, you know, it's aside from that, like, there's just not a ton out of this bullpen. And obviously, unless the Mariners are trading one of their starting pitchers, looking at other teams rotations really doesn't make much sense. So because mostly because everybody in that everybody in said teams rotation is probably worse than your five guys. If you can get Imanaga or you can get Justin Steele, fine, do it. But you can't.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So let's not waste our time there. But the Cubs do have some bets. That absolutely makes sense for Seattle. So lastly, the Milwaukee Brewers were coming off of another division title, surprising division title for the Brewers after trading Corbyn Burns in the off season seemed like they were heading in a different direction but they were actually really good this year
Starting point is 00:26:59 a lot of fun to watch. Not a lot here that I see honestly. We talked about Reese Hoskins on fan fiction Friday last week. Maybe there's an opportunity for like a contract swap there with Hanager and a prospect that they like. That makes it worth giving up
Starting point is 00:27:17 Hoskins to take on Hanager's money. Blum. Right, but that's basically the only situation that works. You're not trading for Reese Hoskins at $18 million and just adding that payroll. No. So pretty much it has to be a Hanager swapper. I mean, I guess a Garber swap maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah. But, yeah. Short of that now, Hoskins isn't an option. Not a lot here, frankly. Aaron Savale is someone that I've looked at a potential supplementary piece if you traded
Starting point is 00:27:53 Castillo just a solid number four number five type who you'll get for a year and isn't going to cost a lot in terms of money so you're not reinvesting
Starting point is 00:28:05 a whole lot of the money that you would theoretically save in a Castillo deal back into starting pitching. Yeah this is another like bullpen team to me.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Like I really like Trevor McGill I don't know how you would get Trevor McGill. I really like Trevor McGill. Arvonne this year. Yeah. Devin Williams. Again, don't really know how you would get Devin Williams, but obviously I love Devin
Starting point is 00:28:30 Williams. It is a big chunk of money to Devin Williams, though, of your budget this winter. Yeah. So not a no-brainer. But, yeah, you would also be fun. Yeah. I mean, pretty much anyone in this bullpen, I have at least some level of interest in. Bobby Milner, Jared Koenig, Joel Pyeumps, Brian Hudson, all these guys are really
Starting point is 00:28:56 even Bryce Wilson, who can also start a little bit. Yeah, anyone else we should talk about from this roster? I'll just mention him because somebody, we get, we get like fan fiction Fridays about this guy pretty regularly. I don't think Christian Yelich makes much sense. you still do $124-ish million. He got hurt yet again this year. Not really much of a defender.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Can he still hit? Sure. It seems like he can hit. Can he do it over the course of 162? I don't really know. There's a lot of questions about the money and how, you know, again, it's very similar to Bellinger. It's like, are you willing to spend all of your money on one guy?
Starting point is 00:29:46 And is that guy, Christian Yellich? I don't know for sure. I only played 73 games this year. And remember before 2023, he had a couple years in a row there where he wasn't slugging like at all. Like there was, he was just hitting for some average and hitting some doubles, but he wasn't hitting for any power whatsoever. And then in 2023, he slugged 447. This last year he slugged 504.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Hasn't hit over 20 home run since 2019. Did get 19 last year. Still steal some bags. but he's a poor defender. I just think overall the package that you get for Yelich, who is also, by the way, he'll be 33 years old in about six weeks. Too big of a risk, too much money.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And it's exactly the type of guy that John Stanton has already said. We don't are going to spend money on those types of guys. So just to put that out there, like Yelich in a vacuum, would you make the Mariners better? Sure. We don't operate in a vacuum. We have to take into account all factors. And I don't like Yelich.
Starting point is 00:30:48 which is getting traded, quite frankly. But even if he is, it's not going to be to Seattle. I don't see that unless there is some insane deal to be had where the brewers are eating a ton of money. And that doesn't really sound like something the brewers do now is it. So, yeah, this is a bullpen team for me. And then maybe Savale, maybe it might be a prospect or two that could happen here. Yeah, or a French 26-man guy like Blake Perkins. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Oliver done. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, like, Freilich and all those guys, they don't make sense. So cross off anybody like that. So, yeah, this is a bullpen team almost exclusively for Seattle. That being said, the bullpen is very important. And these guys have extra arms.
Starting point is 00:31:34 So don't be shocked with these two teams hook up on a deal. Could totally see it. For sure. All right. So that is going to do it for our show. We will be doing the NL West tomorrow. so no fan fiction Friday this week. Before we get out of here,
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