Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Afternoon Delight

Episode Date: June 2, 2021

In the first regular afternoon episode of this show, D.C. goes over the previous two Mariner games -- one a fun win, the other an embarrassing loss. He's then joined by Jonathan Miller and Clive Braithwaite IV for two Mailbag segments. Questions include a question about the physicality of umpires, the future of the minor league system, and a comment on one fan's preference to see the Everett AquaSox instead of the Mariners while in town. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Today on Locked-on Mariners, the host is changing the way he does things. Welcome to Locked-on Mariners, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Here's your host, D.C. Lundberg. Good afternoon, Mariners fans. I am D.C. Lunberg here with another edition of Locked-on Mariner's, part of the Locked-on podcast network. That was a really weird thing to say that. Sorry about that. Please remember to download rate and follow this program on whichever podcasting app that you personally care to use. Ask your smart device to play Locked-on Mariner's podcast or any program here on the Locked-on podcast network. There are going to be some changes to this show, maybe some subtle

changes. They might be major changes in the eyes of you, the listener. I am not sure, but we'll talk about those heading into C-block. Monday, at least, was a fun game. Last night's, not so much. It was looking good until the A's exploded, however. Also, prior to last night, the M's got some pretty bad news. Kyle Lewis tore his meniscus in Monday night's game, Monday afternoon's game, pardon me, and he's back on the disabled list. Taylor Tremel was recalled and started in center field last night after absolutely raking in Tacoma. Lewis is going to be out for a while. That is not good. They're even talking about the possibility, or that surgery is a possibility. Everything's on the table right now. He's on the shelf for an extended period of time, unfortunately.

However, over the last two days, the Mariners activated two players off the injured list. Prior to Monday's game, Jake Fraley was activated and started the game in right field and had a good game, seemingly picked up right where he left off, drawing a walk in his first plate of thirds. I had to chuckle a bit when he did that because the number of bases on balls he's drawn is way out of proportion to the number of that bats he's had. And prior to a stint on the disabled list, he almost had more walks than he had at bats. In a corresponding move, infielder Eric Campbell was sent to the Rainiers. Also on Monday, pitcher Sam Della Plain was traded to the San Francisco Giants Organization for cash considerations. He had been designated for assignment a few days ago.

Yesterday, Marco Gonzalez came back. He was activated while Robert Dugger was sent to Tacoma. Dugger started a couple of the bullpen games that the Ms had to utilize in Marco Gonzalez's stead. The Mariners are easing Marco back in. to action through only four innings last night, I think 50 pitches or so. It was not unlike a bullpen game for all intents and purposes. The bullpen then later gave it up in a major way.

Marco was fine. And so much so, the game got so out of hand that infielder Jack Mayfield took the mound to mop up. Monday was a much better ballgame. It was fun most of the time. Even the extra inning under T-ball rules was fun to some extent. The A's free runner scored in the top of the 10th, and the Mariners free runner also scored. So the one-run victory in extras was not the typical cheap win we often see with this ridiculous free runner rule.

The Mariners won it fair and square, and that free runner was not the difference. The bottom of the 10th was quite fun. Also was watching Logan Gilbert was fun. He finally put it together and had a solid Major League outy. Command of his slider was still spotty but looked better to me. Another problem that he had run into previously was throwing a ton of pitches in any given inning, usually the second or the third, and then he'd be gone by the fourth or fifth, but not on Monday.

In fact, the only real trouble that he ran into shouldn't have happened at all. I don't remember who was hitting. But Gilbert had the guy struck out on a slider in the middle of the plate at the bottom of the zone, clearly a strike. It wasn't really even borderline. But whoever the umpire was missed it, called it a ball. The batter winds up walking, I believe, and Gilbert is forced to continue the inning. He gives up a run and unnecessarily raise his pitch count. That home plate umpire was pretty inconsistent most of the ball game,

and Scott's service was not too happy about it, nor should he have been. Gilbert did make it through six innings, though, which was a career high, 80 pitches, I believe. And remember, gang, he has not stretched out like most of the other starters are, so we might not see him touch 100 pitches any time soon. Also on Monday, the M's put together something of a rally early in the ballgame, which included a three-run home run from Sunshine Superman. That was Donovan Walton's first big league home run, and usually home runs and rallies,

but the M's really didn't miss a beat after Donovan Walton put it in the stands, strung together some more hits and I think a walk as well, and scored another run that inning and chased A's starter James Caprellian. Tonight, the M's will send Chris Flexen to the mound. He's had some very good starts and some very bad ones. For the season, he's got a record of 5 and 2, with an ERA of 434 and a whip of 1.427. He's pitched 47 and 2 thirds innings,

during which he's given up 10 walks and 5 home runs, while striking out 30. What's getting that whip into almost alarming terror, is a number of hits that he's allowed. 58 of them, which equates to 11 per 9 innings. That's got to come down. That's too much. Opposing him will be Sean Maniah, the Throwan Samoan,

author of a no-hitter in 2018 against the Boston Red Sox. Thus far in 2021, he has a 3-2 record in 11 starts. He has one complete game shutout, a 386 ERA, and a whip of 1.319. In his 60 and 2 thirds innings, he's allowed 66 hits, seven home runs, 14 walks, and he struck out 62. Throughout his career, he's exhibited good control, walking only 2.3 batters per nine innings in his six big league seasons. No trivia corner today, but I will tell you about fully loaded. Today's episode is brought to you in part by fully loaded chew.

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Actually, to be completely honest, this is the first segment of we're recording today. But joining us, as promised, for the mailbag segment today. We're going to be doing a mailbag in both B block and C block. And here with me to help answer the questions is Locked on Mariners contributor, John Miller. John, how are you doing? I am doing quite well. Thank you so much for having me. Always a pleasure to have you on the show. We got an umpiring question for you later on, so I'm glad you're here.

Yes, indeed. Also with us to read us the emails, my personal secretary, who screens these emails and then sends them to us. Clive Braithwaite's the fourth. Clive, how are you doing today? I'm quite well. Mr. Miller, how are you, sir? I'm doing very well. It's good to be with you again, Clive.

All rightyve, let's just jump right into it. What's our first question? We'll begin with a short message from Richard. On the previous mailbag episode, someone wrote him telling D.C. that he was the only one who cared about curling. Richard disagrees and simply writes, I happen to like and care about curling. Richard, thank you.

Very much, yes. Absolutely, thank you for writing in and defending that great sport, and I'm very glad that you enjoy it. And I think that's all we can get out of that one, but we appreciate your writing in. In any case, Richard. And Clive, let's, what do we got next? Our next email is from Bob,

who was replying to the Diet Tribe you went on about how it wasn't worth the price of admission to see a Mariners game, and that spectator's money would be better spent at one of the M's Mine League affiliates. Bob writes, I am glad in the last podcast you said it. This is a bad team and not worth the money or time to see.

I live in Texas now and was visiting my kids for my 65th. They knew I was a big M's and baseball fan, and they planned on taking me to an M's game. I said no thanks, I'd rather see the Aqua Sox, and we did. A great game seeing the future potential players and a very enjoyable team. Thanks for doing the podcast. Can't be always easy. I like that. Yeah, Bob, thank you.

Thank you very much for emailing as well. No, it's not always easy doing this podcast, especially when I'm trying to eat lunch while recording. But with school, you know, but with school taking up a lot of my time now, that's the way it might not have to be. And I'm going to talk about some changes that I'm going to be making to the show to lead off the C Block. But I'm glad you enjoyed the Aqua Sox game.

I got to say, gang, minor league baseball is fun. And I don't know if I was a little harsh on the Mariners in saying that they're just not worth the money. or not, but, no, maybe I wasn't hard, because they were going through a very bad spell at that time anyway. Plus, it just costs an arm and a leg to get into a major league baseball game. So, you know, maybe I was justified to say that. Thank you, Bob, for kind of defending what I was saying, because I was actually, I thought I was going to get some negative feedback on that. And I didn't get any, so I'm kind of happy about that.

The Aqua Sox are fun, or the Aqua Sox, as Clive says, apparently. and John, you've been to a number of minor league baseball games. We've said on this show before that you pretty much grew up at Cheney Stadium. I've got a Vista Stadium where the Spokane Indians play, 20 minutes a half hour away from my house. And if you live in a minor league city or close to a minor league city gang, I suggest going out and supporting your minor league team. Or if you're in Seattle, you've got the Tacoma Rainiers to the south a couple hours, or the Everett Aqua Sox to your north, which are very close,

and they're both Mariners affiliates. So if you're anywhere near the Seattle area, I would highly recommend going to Everett Memorial Stadium or Cheney Stadium in seeing the Aqua Sox or the Rainiers. John, do you have anything to add? I don't. I love the support, and thank you, D.C., for pointing out that we still need to go out and support these minor league clubs.

the players are truly showing a love for the game. Yes. Even if you're just watching a clip, or if you happen to have opportunity to go to the stadium, they are truly enjoying it. They are more than willing in most cases. It doesn't matter which team to sign something for a fan, especially a younger fan,

or to give a high-five as they're going into the club, or anything like that, which you don't seem to get from the major leaguers. Not so much since they've been involved with professional baseball. If they've gotten to the major league level, then more often than not than they've been involved with professional baseball for a number of years, whereas the Everett Aqua Soxia, the Spokane Indians,

it's generally their second year in professional baseball, and they're still moving up the ranks, and they still have a lot to prove, and that love of the game that you spoke of is very much present. at the minor league levels. And it's so much fun to watch. And I also could not believe the difference between high A and low A, because only a couple seasons ago,

the Spokane Indians were a low A affiliate. And they're now a high A affiliate of the Colorado Rockies. And the base running mistakes and the general fielding sloppiness that you sometimes see in low A was not nearly as prevalent as it was in high A. And you, again, have been to a number of AAA gains and maybe speak to the difference between AAA baseball and the major leagues a little bit if you could because it's a huge difference. Some of the players, you can tell, are more refined. They're ready for the major league level and likely to be called up in September or have perhaps played in the major league level and are doing a rehab assignment or had recently got sent down to work on some mechanics. and so have experience, or you might get an opportunity to watch an older major league player

who's spending some time in the minor leagues for any one of the aforementioned reasons. And you can tell they're more refined, they're more polished in pretty much everything they do. They're not as sloppy, whereas some of these AAA guys, especially in their teens or young 20s, if you happen to catch them that young, they're still playing the way a kid would. And there's something to be said for that. You don't want to lose that youthful exuberance. I just realize I'm not talking to the microphone as I'm saying that sentence

because I'm kind of facing away because I'm still eating, gang. But you don't want to lose that. There's kind of a fine line between losing that youthful exuberance that I talked about. And Ken Griffey Jr. is a good example as somebody, who kept that, but also refined his skills to the point where he was just one of the elite players among the elite of his time. That is an excellent example. And being a Mariners show, I can't really think of a better one. Yeah, I mean, even if it wasn't a Mariners show, I think that's the one that springs most, first and foremost to everybody's mind,

maybe Mike Trout to some degree, but I think Ken Griffey Jr. was called the kid for a reason because that's the way he played. We're going to save the rest of our emails for the next segment, but if you have an email that you would like read on the show in our next mailbag episode, send it over to Lockdown Mariners at gmail.com. I will read it on the air. I will not read it on the air. Clive will, but I will reply to it in a future mailbag episode. Questions and comments on anything at all are welcome and encouraged. It doesn't need to be about the Mariners, doesn't need to be about baseball or sports at all for that matter. Coming up, more of your emails, including questions about gingivitis, the laffer curve, and the benefits of a balanced breakfast.

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Bet online, your online sportsbook experts. promo code locked on. Welcome back to Locked-on Mariners. Here once again is your host, D.C. Lundberg. Thank you, J.M., for leading us into the final segment of this Wednesday afternoon edition of Locked-on Mariners. In fact, ladies and gentlemen, these afternoon shows are going to be the norm from here on out. I had been recording this program pretty much right after Mariners' Gamehead ended at night, which meant that I was staying up very late to get the show on the air for the next morning.

Also having gone from two segments to three a couple months ago, that's just that much more material that I not only have to record and edit, but also plan and write. I was often not getting the show completed until two or three in the morning, sometimes later. I'm not as young as I used to be, and I just can't do that anymore. I'm not the night owl I once was. And it got to a point late last week where I was hardly sleeping at all,

and I got sick over the weekend. That's why there was no Friday show last week and no show yesterday. So something had to change. Rather than have this be a morning show, I'm going to have it be an early afternoon show from here on out. My plan is to get the episodes published by 3 p.m. each day, so those of you could get off work at fork and listen to it on your way home, even if you happen to get off a little early on any particular day.

Also, recording the show in the daytime and then publishing in the afternoon eliminates the need for me to find guest hosts on school nights. I apologize for the inconvenience, but these changes, are necessary, I'm afraid. We're going to get back to your emails at this time, ladies and gentlemen, Clive, what have we got next? What would a mailbag episode be without Aidan Soans from East Hampton, Connecticut? He has a couple questions, and also replied to your request about putting players on a

protection list for a potential expansion draft. His email reads thusly, For the expansion draft, I 100% agree with John. He had a mix of prospects with potential, and consistent veterans. Anyways, here is my question. Where do you see the state of the Seattle Mariners minor league system in two years? Two thousand and twenty-three. Also, have you watched the Seattle Mariners Dorktown documentary?

Well, thank you very much for that, Aidan. Shows that you have a good head on your shoulders. Yeah, I, uh, when he, when he, when he, when he, wrote back and said that I totally agree with John about the expansion draft stuff, I said to myself, okay, I'm going to spring this on John on the air because I want to tell him beforehand. So this is the first you were hearing this, sir. Yes, sir.

Anyways, I'll answer your second question first. No, I still have not watched the Dorktown documentary, and I hope Jason Hernandez doesn't listen to this episode. He's been trying to get me to watch that thing for months. and now that I'm in school, I just don't have a whole lot of time on my hands to do stuff like that, so I probably will not be able to watch it for a while. And as far as the farm system goes, you know, kind of predicting out how a farm system is going to be a couple of years from now, I'm not exactly sure how to answer that question.

Because it seems almost like an impossible question to answer the players that were in the farm system now, hopefully we'll be at the Major League level in two years, or at least very close to the Major League level in two years. I'm talking specifically about Julio Rodriguez and Noel V. Marte, who are in the lower levels of the minors at this time. I don't know when they are projected to hit the Major League level. Mr. Rodriguez is in high A, and I believe Mr. Marte is in low A, so he's farther behind. He's also younger. Mr. Marte is still a teenager, and he's playing. shortstop right now, but as Taylor Blake Ward said last week, probably projects out to be more of a third baseman than a shortstop. It also has to do with how well the meritor's draft over the next

couple of years, international free agent signings. And that stuff, I don't know how to predict that stuff. So Mr. Sons, I know that that's a pretty terrible answer, but it's the best one that I could come up with. John, do you have anything to add to that? I really don't have anything to I think you answered it quite well. I appreciate that. Even though I don't think so. Clive, what do we got next? This next message is from Lisa, who writes,

Hi, Lotton Mariners at gmail.com. This is about to reaching on the top rank on Google search. Can we send you the full? Hold it, Clyde. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's spam. We're not going to read. We don't read spam messages on the air.

Sorry. It was in with your regular emails, not in the spam folder, so I read it. Next time, could you please show a little discernment? I'll be more careful going forward. Also, I omitted the emails from your classmates pertaining to the group project you were assigned. Well, I'm glad that you did that.

Do we have any more emails, Clive? Yes, we have one more. This is a perfect question for Mr. Miller, since it pertained to umpiring. It was sent in by Justin Dagoni, who says he's from me. Olympia, but in his words, out in the sticks, not in that crappy city, different zip code. His message reads,

Howdy DC, I have been listening to your podcast for several years now and don't know if I've missed an episode yet. The M's are in a slump, but stay strong. There are times when you see the umps out on the bases that seem to have an insane ability to get out of the way of the ball in a quick fashion as do not interfere with the play. So my question is as follows, do MLB umpires have to undergo any agility training or testing in order to get their job or maintain their job? Thank you and go mariners. All of the Major League umpires during spring training have to pass a parkour course. I'd like to see Joe West try to do that.

Actually, no. All of the umpires have to pass a physical, and have 20-20 vision. Those are the qualifications for being a major league umpire as far as physical. Right, and the other part of that is, that's a very good question, Justin.

And I also appreciate not only the humor in describing your home city, but I appreciate you phonetically spelling your name because I would have gotten it wrong. I would have guessed Degonnier, which is close, sort of, But in any case, umpires, and John, please correct me if I'm wrong, but umpires rise through the ranks of the minor league systems,

much like ball players do. And I would assume that the umpires, maybe who are not as spry as some of the other ones, might not make as good as umpires as the people who are more mobile, so they may stay in the minor league system, while the other ones who can get around a bit more make it to the major league level. Am I off base there, John? You are actually entirely correct.

Okay. I'm glad because I was guessing. And a lot of that has to do with if the umpire is not able to get into the expected position to make whatever call, that is going to hold them back. They are going to be talking about that given regular valuations, even at the major league level. Oh, yeah. After every major league game, a played umpire is given a printout of a, of what calls the claim that he missed behind the plate.

I'd like to see Angel Hernandez's reports. Oh, geez. No. But that's why I thought, because they do rise through the ranks, much like ballplayers do, that part I knew. And that's why I was also kind of assuming that being able to get in position, which is a huge part of the job, they have to be graded on that.

Or at least that's what I had assumed. So I also kind of figured that, well, with that, they have to be pretty agile, otherwise they won't be able to do the job as well as their peers, and their peers are going to rise ahead of them. And also in terms of staying in the big leagues, which is something you addressed, John, I remember several years ago, there was a show on MLB Network, a studio 42 episode hosted by Bob Costas, where it was something of a roundtable featuring three big league umpires, and one of them was Bruce Framing, very respected National League umpire for years and years and years.

And they actually asked something related, at least. Mr. Costas had asked Freming, who I think was still umpiring at the time, that some of the older umpires, and Costas put this nicely, were not as trim as some of their younger counterparts. And Mr. Costas asked Mr. Fruming if that was kind of held the older umpires back to an extent, or if they caught any flack for that from the younger ones,

and Mr. Freming said that it was never really a problem. One umpire that I can think of who did catch some flak for it, and you can read about this in the late Eric Gregg's book, is he had issues with his figure, and that slowed him down, then he was talked to about it. Yeah, and I don't recall John if he had to retire early because of it or was forced out early because of that. Do you remember? If you don't, it's fine. Okay.

While John is looking up that information, we'll move on to the personal accountability portion of the episode, since that was the last email of the day. The Rod Rod Roddy segments, as I like to call them, as he documented his weight loss on the prices, right? I'm doing the same thing on this show, more or less to keep my own self-accountable, because I know that you guys out there really don't care, but I have to keep myself accountable in some fashion, and this is a decent way to do it. Since the last one, I am down three more pounds for a net loss of 14 pounds since I started keeping track at the beginning of April. Last week, I actually gained a little bit of weight. Last week was a mess, which, you know, in part led me to choose to do the shows in the afternoons rather than the mornings. It just got so far out of hand. And, you know, my diet

and my exercise suffered as a result, as did just about everything else. But in any case, I figured the mailback episodes are a good place to do these Rod Roddy segments because it's kind of an episode, these are episodes drawn the lighter side anyway. And now that that is finished, John, have you finished your research? Eric Gregg resigned as part of the labor dispute in 1999. Oh, wow. Bud Seleague refused to hire him back. Hmm.

Yeah, on August 7, 2001, represented. Robert A. Brady, a member of the U.S. House representative wrote a letter to 25 other House members urging but Seelig to rehire Greg but Seelig refused. Huh. Okay. Yeah, I forgot

all about that little that little, no, it was more than a little squabble. It was a huge deal. And then Greg passed on in 2006. Wow. Wow. I didn't realize he had been gone that long. Wow. Well, on that high note, I think that's going to be it.

Clive, thank you again for joining us today to read the emails for us. You're quite welcome. Enjoy the Indians game tonight. And tell Shannon happy birthday from me. Yes, I will do that. Thank you very much, Clive. And thank you also to Mr. John Miller for joining us as well. More umpiring insight, which is always welcome.

something that I don't think gets talked about enough on these types of shows. So I'm very happy to have somebody with umpiring experience, you know, kind of on speed dial, as it were, to jump on and talk about it when it comes up. Thanks again, John, and where can the nice people find you on Twitter if they're still there? You are very welcome. If you are all still on Twitter, I can be found at Seattle Pilot 69. Excellent.

Thank you again, John. Thank you again, Clive. And thank you up there in Podcast Land for looking us up today. We will be back tomorrow, and remember tomorrow, afternoon, and joining me at that time will be Murray Slaughter, Comet, and a crop duster. Please remember to download, rate, and follow Locked-on Mariners. Look for us on any podcasting app that springs into your brainhead. Leave a rating and review of your podcasting app of choice so allows.

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