Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Are the Mariners Gearing Up For Another Run at Vladimir Guerrero Jr.?

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Starting point is 00:00:30 It is Wednesday, October 30th, 2024. This is Tadden Gazzal. and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marries podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network your team every day. And today we'll be looking at all five teams in the ALEs for potential trade targets for the Marries. But before

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Starting point is 00:01:02 now to hear us create our 2025 five Mariners off season plan, which I believe will be wrapping up today on CTZ. So be sure to check that out. So as we did last week when we went through all the National League divisions, we're going to work in reverse order of the standings in the ALE day, which allows us to kick things off with the Toronto Blue Jays team up in my neck of the woods here, who pretty disappointing, had a pretty disappointing year this year. And this team now looks like it is firmly in a rebuild, heading towards a rebuild.

Starting point is 00:01:39 You look at this roster is not particularly good. They have Vlad Jr., who obviously the Mariners were apparently very aggressive on at the deadline, even after a Rose Arena. They didn't get him. No one did, of course. And with Mark Shapiro and Ross Atkins, still in charge, still running the show. in Toronto. Glad entering the last year of his deal. I'm not sure

Starting point is 00:02:08 they're going to trade him and essentially wave the white flag on the era of Blue Jays baseball that those two guys helped cultivate. I think they're going to try and extend him and make him the face of the franchise for a very long time.

Starting point is 00:02:24 But I do believe that the Mariners will try and circle back on that idea. They will. call and see if things have changed over the last few months. And I think they will be aggressive again in their offer. I just don't think that it's going to happen.

Starting point is 00:02:43 But Vlad obviously does make sense. Obviously, position of need for the Mariners. He's young. He kind of fits the bill of who they would actually pay big money to. If they brought him in, obviously, because he's going to make a lot in arbitration just for this year. But also an extension, which doesn't factor into the trade costs, doesn't factor into the trade discussion,

Starting point is 00:03:04 but he is someone in theory that the Marrers would actually potentially like to extend and give long-term big money to because of the age. And obviously he's a star, but he's a star that's not going to, he's probably not going to be one of those stars that makes like $40 million a year either. Right. So, but yeah,

Starting point is 00:03:25 that's probably a dead end there on the Guerrero front. The other big name here, who could be a more realistic option, is Boa Shutt, who's coming off of a really bad year. Not just for his standards. He was just awful this year. And also injury-plagued season as well for Bo. But he's got one year left. And Colby, he is making, or he's projected to make almost exactly the amount of money that Mitch Hanigur is set to make. And we've talked about that idea more so on our Patreon show than on here.

Starting point is 00:04:05 What do you think about the Bichette idea in general and then potentially sending Mitch Hanager up to Toronto, which would increase the prospect return, which could be appealing to the Blue Jays, but also essentially allow the merits to address one of their needs for free money-wise? Boba Chet is an interesting idea that comes with his own red flags. He hasn't been healthy. He wasn't healthy this year. He wasn't productive this year either. He's double whammy there.

Starting point is 00:04:40 In addition, there are some probably more than murmurs at this point, but there were some clubhouse issues. He's not happy with being in Toronto. And obviously, you know, his manager wasn't too thrilled with him this year. And like there's some concerns there. And so if it can happen in Toronto, couldn't it happen in Seattle? Is this an isolated incident where the guy just needs a clean slate and just kind of a, you know, a change of scenery to fix that problem?

Starting point is 00:05:08 Or is this a guy who's just going to be a malcontent wherever he goes? And you stack that on that's that's probably the least concerning of the concerns you have with Bichette. But that might kill it right there for the merits because this is obviously a team that has moved on from guys that have been that have presented issues within the clubhouse. Right. So if they think that he has, right. But if they, you know, if they think that he brings his own set of red flags within the clubhouse and within the clubhouse setting, that might just kill that for them. It might, but I think they'd be willing to take the shot on it because it's only for one year. And so, you know, they don't even have to pull a trigger. If it doesn't work, right, they just let them go into free agency.

Starting point is 00:05:55 So there's not even like, I mean, you don't have to. trade something of value to get them off your roster or anything like that or dump them for less than you think he probably should be worth like Jesse Winker. You know, you don't have to do that. So, yeah, it's an interesting thing. The injuries, though, and the lack of production this last year is, are the bigger red flags to me at least. So, yeah, Bichette, interesting guy.

Starting point is 00:06:19 He's still in his 20s. He's still in his prime. Like, it's a one-year rental. So prospect cost shouldn't be astronomical. And I don't think. that if you're taking on, I think if you're taking on Bichette's $16 million, like all of it. The prospect capital that you're going to give up, well, it's still probably going to be guys that we recognize like names that we've talked about before. It's certainly not going to be like,

Starting point is 00:06:43 you know, I mean, obviously Colt Emerson or Laz or maybe Michael Oroyo, if you're taking all the money at most. But like, if you're, if the Blue Jays want like the most return, they can get, They just want the best package they could get for Boba Chet. They want a package similar to what they probably could have gotten last winter when they apparently did think about trading him as well. If they want a package similar to that, then they should eat most of, if not all of that money to basically present zero risk to the team that's acquiring him.

Starting point is 00:07:17 And they can do that for the Mariners by simply taking on Mitch Haniguer's contract. And then that would basically wipe the slate clean. And then all of a sudden like, hey, would you trade Cole Young for one year about Bouchet if it's not going to add anything to your, to your salary, to your payroll? You might, you might consider that. Again, you're banking on Bichet being better than he was last year. He has to be.

Starting point is 00:07:39 But you don't have to look back too far to see this guy as a legit all-star. It's a perennial. I mean, he was, he's offensively. He's up the middle, Randy a Rosarano. Right. And I mean, for you, he'd probably play second or third, but those are still very valuable positions. He's a fine shortstop, so he should be able to play those two spots just fine. He's going to hit 20 home runs. He doesn't really steal very many bags anymore. He doesn't

Starting point is 00:08:03 walk a ton, but he's going to hit for a pretty high average. He's going to slug, you know, above league average clip. He's going to, you know, having a league average above league average on base, mostly because he's going to hit, you know, 280. He gets a ton of hits. You know, he's a valuable player. He really is. And he's only 27, I believe. But again, there are a lot of red flags here. You only get him for one year. And his, value on the trade market is a little tough to pin down as a result. So it just muddies all the water. He's going to get a boost in value naturally from the fact that there just aren't that many options out there like we've talked about. But still, this is a guy that you know is not going to resign in Toronto. And at this point, again, given where the blue jays are right now, I think they're in a rebuild at this point.

Starting point is 00:08:49 they have other up-the-middle options that they probably prefer to play at this point again because Bichette is not coming back in 2026 so it just feels like you're kind of wasting reps playing him this year or keeping him and playing him this year I mean yes could you hold on and hope that he goes nuclear and you get more at the trade deadline for him and at that point he's cheaper and yada yada yada yada yada yada maybe maybe but what if he doesn't exactly what if he's okay like he's just fine uh and now all of a sudden the team that's acquiring him gets him for two months instead of a full year yeah so teams know this the the the the the the the blue jays don't have a lot of leverage here in a bachette deal so again because there aren't that many options because bachette does have a long

Starting point is 00:09:41 track record of success is still young you can still point to you you injuries and be like, well, this is just an outlier year. It's going to cost you something, even if you take on all the money, but it's not going to be much. It really isn't going to be much. I just can't imagine that. And like, again, it's a, it's a rental deal. So there's not a shot.

Starting point is 00:10:04 I mean, there's a shot that he does sign an extension here, right? Luis Castillo did. Now, he was a year and a half away from free agency instead of a year. But yeah, like, it's not out of the realm of possibility. Bichette comes here. He hits. He loves it. He signs an extension. Bada boom, Bada Bing. We have at least the third basement of the future, maybe the shortstop of the future, blah, blah, blah. He's younger than J.P. Yada, yada, yada. It's also possible he comes. He's fine. He's productive and he's a free agent at the end of the year and he leaves. So you have to be

Starting point is 00:10:32 careful what you're giving up to acquire him, particularly with the money, if that is going to be a factor. If not, you could be a little bit more aggressive on it. But again, if we're being generous and we're assuming that the Mariners have like $30 million to spend this winter, which is generous. Fichette takes up half of it, and he may or may not help you this upcoming year. And that's on top of the prospect capital. You have to give up to get the guy. It's not a slam dunk, but I do think it's something that Jerry and Justin will actually look at and probably progress.

Starting point is 00:11:04 If the mayor has acquired him, they're going to have to erase some of the money. I think so, yeah. But I do think this is something that Jerry and Justin would look at. I think this is the type of player that they would be very interested in talking about this winter. Real quick, before we move on to the next team and the next segment, anyone else that stands out to you from this roster? If it's a true, true rebuild, which I don't think it is, because if it was, you'd bring in a new GM, I would think to run it.

Starting point is 00:11:29 But if it was, like Dalton Bar Show vaguely interesting, but you're pretty set in the outfield. And he's coming off of what shoulder surgery, I believe? Yeah. I mean, he's not much of a hitter anyways. It's mostly glove and about an average bat. But, you know, you do have a DH spot. you can move a Rosarena too and you'd have a great defensive outfield with Varsho,

Starting point is 00:11:48 Julio and Robles out there. You know, the guy like Eric Swanson, who's probably going to get non-tendered anyway, so don't really have to trade for him. But there are a couple guys in that bullpen. Romano doesn't really make a ton of sense right now. He's coming off his own injury. Making too much money. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:05 So, like, I mean, I don't know. You want to take a shot on trying to fix Manoa? You want to take that shot? That'd be kind of funny if they did it. But no, there's not a ton here. I think it's Vlad, who I think is going to be too expensive for the Mariners to acquire trade cost-wise. It's going to be Bichet, who I think is interesting, but has its own red flags. Maybe Varsho, and then maybe one or two of the bullpen arms.

Starting point is 00:12:29 But it's really the two big guns here are the guys you're going after. And I do think the Mariners will talk to Toronto about both of them. And I think those talks will get pretty far down the road, whether or not they lead to anything. I don't know, but I think it's going to be more than just like, hey, is this guy available? No, okay. Like, I think names will be exchanged packages. I think the mirrors will continue to press them like they did with Vlad. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:53 So, and then we'll see what Bo. Again, I, you know, I'm not sure if like the potential personality slash clubhouse issues that may or may not exist. Maybe that just kills it right away. Or it's the, you know, the performance risk that kills it for them, the money that kills it for him. It's a shot they want to take, though. And keep in mind, the mayor. And the Blue Jays made two trades just three months ago. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:16 They know who each other likes to read well at this point. They were talking. They were talking. They were talking. So don't be shocked if they make another one at some point this winter. Yeah. All right. So we are going to get into another team.

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Starting point is 00:14:35 You're listening to the Locked-O Mariners podcast. We are coming through the ALE East for Mariners. trade targets, potential trade targets. We just talked a lot about the Toronto Blue Jays because obviously they have quite a bit of star power, big names there to talk about with Vlad and Bobachette. Now let's turn to another team that the Marys have talked with a lot. That's the Tampa Bay raise.

Starting point is 00:15:02 Obviously made the trade for Randy a Rosa Rana near the trade deadline. They were also rumored to be heavily involved in the Yandi Diaz talks. So let's just start there with Yandi Diaz because he didn't get traded. You think they circled back on Yandi? Yeah, to a certain extent. They do have an opening at DH slash first base. I do think Ray Lee is going to factor in pretty heavily there. But yeah, Diaz is certainly an interesting guy.

Starting point is 00:15:35 It hits a lot of ground balls. You know, it doesn't hit a ton of home runs. So your first base profile, maybe 20 home runs. If you're lucky, he shouldn't play. any where but first base or dh i know he's got some experience at third some at second he's not good there uh so uh it should just be a first base dh but he's going to hit for high average he's going to hit a lot of doubles um he's you know puts the ball in play quite a bit he's a good hitter still even though he's 32 33 years old it's just his his ceiling is capped a

Starting point is 00:16:04 little bit because he had so many ground balls um so that's just who he is as a hitter too there's no point trying to change him uh so yeah i do think they'll circle back a little bit here but, you know, our understanding was is that at the deadline, they wanted more for Diaz and they wanted for a Rosarena, which is weird to me at least. But so I think the price will see, obviously, there'll be more buyers this winter. Well, you would think there would be more buyers this winter than there would be at the trade deadline. But I believe I remember there coming down to four teams and Houston, Seattle, the Mets, I believe were one of them. I think it was the Astros, Pirates, Yankees, Marrars. Pirates, pirates, yes.

Starting point is 00:16:47 So, yeah, it's kind of a weird combination there. Pirates in there for some reason. But yeah, they got, they went out and they got ICF. They got Ryan Dela Cruz. Those worked out great, didn't they? But they went out and they, you know, they were trying to acquire major leaguers. Yeah. So, yeah, I do think they'll circle back a little bit.

Starting point is 00:17:10 the contract's not that big of a deal. So, yeah, I could see Diaz. I don't think there's going to be much concern about the Rosarena Diaz beef that seems to get overblown every time we talk about this guy. But I do think they'll circle back to some degree. I just don't know if that's the big name that they're going to go after. I use big name loosely, but I don't think that's like the big prize they're going to go after. The name you guys are going to recognize, right? yeah um brandon low is the guy that i think fits the most here yeah uh because so he's got a club

Starting point is 00:17:47 option this year and next uh for 10 10 and a half million dollars this year obviously the the raise are stingy with money to put it lightly but i do think that they are going to pick up that option because they know they they can trade him right um because that's a very reasonable deal for a player like Lowe, even with his injury, history and concerns. Because the dude rakes when he is healthy, when he is on the field. He especially provides a profile that's unique to second base, right? He actually hits for quite a bit of power. Now, is it 39 home run power like we saw in 2021?

Starting point is 00:18:26 Probably not. But is it 20 to 25? Yeah, which is still well above average for the second base position. This year, 244, 311, 473, it's 123 WRC Plus. He was worth 2.2 F4 and 107 games. I think if there's anyone on this Ray's roster that in glowing, flashing neon signs screams Mariner, it's Brandon Lowe. I think if, like, to put it another way, I think if, like, I told you that the Mariners were acquiring one veteran from the race this winter, you would put, you would. but you would put most of your money on it being Brandon Lowe.

Starting point is 00:19:08 Like, he just makes a ton of sense. So, yeah, but, you know, Diaz and Lowe, there's actually quite a few guys on the race team that,

Starting point is 00:19:16 uh, could make sense. Now, a lot of them are like part timers or they're like, you know, they're kind of lottery ticket type of guys, but, uh,

Starting point is 00:19:23 there are a lot of guys on this roster that do make sense. What about Christopher Morel? Like, but they already, they lied. He was terrible. And we know that he's not great defensively. for the life of me,

Starting point is 00:19:36 I don't know why they traded parades for the guy, but they might. So think about him a little bit. But there's also those guys, you know, the race always have those like 23, 24, 25 year olds who are on the 40 man,

Starting point is 00:19:47 who have the cup of coffee at the big leagues. And they've kind of hit, but not really your Taylor Walls, your Curtis Meads, your Jonathan Oronda types. Like they always have guys like that floating around. Palacios is another one. I think,

Starting point is 00:20:04 Jose Siri would be kind of interesting. He strikes out a ton. So much. So much. Might be the best center fielder in baseball defensively plus power. So you have to use them very specifically. You don't want them as an everyday guy, but as a fourth outfielder can play all three outfield spots at elite levels, has power, particularly against lefties. He's kind of interesting. I could see them go after Josh Lowe. Like if the raise are shopping Josh Lowe, that's a high upside shot that the Mariners could take here. I think that. I think that. Curtis Meade is kind of a if the Mariners can't get a third base solution like a proven third base solution they might go for a guy like Mead who's got a really strong bat has hit

Starting point is 00:20:45 everywhere has a little bit of success in the big leagues you know he's no Austin Shinton but pretty close and oh hey the mariner's could go get Austin Shinton too that would be a guy that they could go get so the race actually have quite a few guys that are pretty interesting did you mention Pete Fairbanks I did not I was just talking about the bats so Yeah, there are a couple of arms as well that make some sense. Fairbanks being one, Clevenger being another. You know, it'd be awesome if you can get McClanahan, but I don't think the race are going to do that. But, yeah, Aranda, like me, Palacios, those guys who are, you know, they played in the majors.

Starting point is 00:21:27 They've had some level of success, but most of their success has been at the high minors. Like, I could see the Mariners making a swap for like, for example, just I don't even know this makes sense for both clubs but just as one example I could see them doing something like Harry Ford for Curtis Mead right it's kind of the way back when the Sam Tui Valala for it's much higher level than that but it was a Seth Ellage yes where you basically trade a guy like you figure two guys are no no yeah yeah Harry Ford and Curtis Mead are a lot more significant than Seth Ellage and Sam Tui Valala Sure, but it's the same idea, right? You trade a guy who's more prepared to help you this year, and you trade a guy whose ceiling is probably about the same as the guy you're giving up. It's just you get the ceiling now versus two years in the future.

Starting point is 00:22:17 So, yeah, the rays are a really fun team to look at. So the Red Sox, this is a team that, hey, if you're trading one of your starting pitchers is pretty interesting. But if you're not, then not really that interesting. I mean, Rob Reff Snyder. Basically they're dealing more more or less. A really good year, but yeah, only against lefties. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:41 Do you want to kick the tires on Masataka, Yeshita? Not at $50 million he still owed over the next three years. Yeah. For a DH only. I mean, I like the bat. Yeah. I don't like the contract. If you're trading one of the starters, obviously Jaron DeRan is someone that we've talked about.

Starting point is 00:23:00 And that would be probably if you're trading, you know, Gilbert or Kirby. It would be for Duran. Tristan Kosses is someone that we've heard a lot of people in the Marysphere talk about. I know Adam Jude has written about him. I just, I'm not sure if that particularly works. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:23 William Brayu as a guy. Raphael is a guy. Roman Anthony down in the minors is a guy. So yeah, if you're trading. Like if you're looking for teams that could possibly put together a package, intriguing enough, that the Mariners would be willing to trade a Kirby or a Gilbert type, the Red Sox are one of the few teams because they have position players that are in the big leagues. They're young and they're performing a little bit right now. So the Red Sox are one of the few teams that could theoretically put it together. Again, I don't think they're actually going to line up on a trade cost because I think if they're going, how about CASIS, you know, or whatever, then the mayors are like, okay,

Starting point is 00:24:04 about him and Roman Anthony and Raphael. Like I just don't see that happening. But again, if you're going to trade one of your four pitchers, not Luis Castillo, you know, one of your young, controllable pitchers, the Red Sox are one of the few teams that I think could put up a competitive offer. I don't think that's going to happen, though. And so what you're stuck with is like the Rob Ross Snyders who do have value. I mean, they're not nothing.

Starting point is 00:24:27 They're not unvaluble. It's just, yeah, you know, whatever. That's what you're looking at. you want to get if the Red Sox want to eat most of the money if not a whole of the money Trevor's story is kind of a name we know the Mariners had interest in the past he did not want to come here and

Starting point is 00:24:44 looks like they dodged a bullet there but he is a guy will they do the the Jack Corenzic Kendris Morales thing like no you will come to Seattle I mean they kind of already did that with Troy Taylor like one way or another you're going to be a mariner so yeah Trevor's story what's left on his contract.

Starting point is 00:25:05 Maybe it's like, hey, you take Hanager this year. I think it's like four years left or three years left. I think he's got an opt out. It makes it really like Trevor Storke's not going to be a mariner this winter. But, you know, again, if they want to eat like most of it and blah, blah, blah, blah, just a name to keep in the back of your mind, I would say. He's got an opt out after next year. Probably not going to take it.

Starting point is 00:25:24 Although if you hit Seattle that much, you might. So, yeah, but there's not a ton here unless you're going to trade one of your, one of your starters. Yeah. All right, so we have the Orioles and Yankees left. We'll go over those two rosters in just a moment. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Errors podcast is once again brought to you by game time. So I used to live in New Mexico, and down in New Mexico, there are zero pro sports teams. And a lot of bands and artists that I listen to skip going there more often than not.

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Starting point is 00:27:22 major leaguers who could help the Marriers in 2025 on all these rosters. Before we get into the Orioles and the Yankees, those are the two teams. we have left. You have the numbers on Trevor's story, correct? Yeah, it's kind of a weird contract. He's due 225 this year. So if it's like Hanneger for Story, then Story's a $5 million gamble at third base or second base for you this year. Then he has an opt-out with a $5 million buyout. If he doesn't take that, you would owe him two years at $50 million. So hypothetically, it's like Mitch Hanager and let's say, let's say it's Mitch Haniguer. The Mariners acquired Mitch,

Starting point is 00:28:01 the Mariners trade Mitch Hanager. They acquire Trevor's story and let's say $25 million. At that point, Story essentially becomes three years. If he doesn't opt out and if he opts out, the Red Sox should be on the hook for that. It would be three years at about $30 million. Is that a gamble you're willing to take on Trevor's story?

Starting point is 00:28:23 Because there's a pretty decent chance you just flush $30 million down the toilet. But what if you don't? What if he's pretty good? So, yeah, again, something to keep in mind. I'm not saying it's likely. I'm just saying it's out there. Like, just do with that information what you want. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:39 So the Baltimore Orioles. This is another team that's pretty interesting if you're trading one of your pitchers. But if you're not, then we're probably talking about Ramon Noreas, which we could go from Luis Erius to his brother, Ramon. And then I could easily transfer memes to, you know, common Ramon Noreas, W. there's also Cedric Mullins

Starting point is 00:29:02 who you really like but is projected to make a bit of money I know you want to talk about him though but first like if you are trading one of the starting pitchers who on this roster would you like the most

Starting point is 00:29:17 not Adley Ratchman because he's diet Cal Raleigh Adley Ruchman is food savers Cal Raleigh he is great value Cal Raleigh he's what he's like the fake old Navy jersey that you get when you really wanted the the fresh you know

Starting point is 00:29:41 Gino Smith throwback like no he he's he sucks like compared to Cal Raleigh like no he was really bad for most of this year though like you guys if you're if you're not familiar with what Adley Rushman did this year and I think it's from May onward pretty much he sucked he was really got like I was very surprised when I looked at those numbers. Yeah. I mean, he's at best, the second best switch hitting catcher in the American League at best. And that's only because I can't think of any other switch hitting catchers,

Starting point is 00:30:15 to be honest, besides, you know, the big one. But yeah, anybody for the young pitcher, I'll take Gunner Henderson. Sure. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Aside from him. You know, at that point it becomes more about what piece

Starting point is 00:30:32 is I can get because I'm not trading one of my pitchers straight up for Kobe Mayo. Like I'm not doing it for Hess and Kierstad. I'm not. Would you trade Miller or Wu for Westberg? No. Nope. That wouldn't. Not straight up.

Starting point is 00:30:48 So, yeah. No. I like Westberg. Fine. They want to do Westberg and Kierstad. Then we can have a conversation. But no, I wouldn't. Pitching is too valuable.

Starting point is 00:31:01 and the Mariners, again, they do not have their replacements in-house right now whatsoever. And those two guys are making the minimum. So they'd have to go and spend more money to go and fix the problem that is already fine. Like it's not a problem right now. So no, I wouldn't. But, yeah, Westberg's super interesting. Wouldn't hate it. I just wouldn't do it.

Starting point is 00:31:24 But yeah, I think Westberg, Kirstad, Mayo, I think two of those guys have to be involved for me to be interested in moving one of my arms. to the to the orioles uh so outside of the uh potential pitcher trade targets um right mountcastle is another guy that was rumored in trade talks around the deadline kind of surprisingly uh so maybe they traded austin hayes instead so yeah yeah so we'll see if maybe he's still available if they're still open to trading him obviously again the mares have um you know at that's give at DH in first base. So that could be an option.

Starting point is 00:32:04 But yeah, I know that you're really zeroed in on Cedric Mullins here on this roster. So tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, you only get him for a year. He's going to be making a good chunk of money. And he really is a platoon bat. Now he is the strong side platoon, which means he crushes Ritey's.

Starting point is 00:32:21 I mean, I don't know, crushes. But he's very good against Ritey's. 245, 325, 441 this year. 17 of his 18 home runs were against Rides. he also is a pretty solid defender. You're not going to ask him to play center field much, but he can absolutely do it. So you get a plus defensive corner outfielder.

Starting point is 00:32:38 You get a guy who's got 20 home run pop as a part-time player. You know, if you could hit lefties at all, and he's a full-time player, A, he's probably not available. But B, he's also probably hit 30 home runs. But he does steal 30 bags. And we know that the Mariners, we look at what they did in the second half. This is a team that looks like they want to run a little bit more than they have in the past. And Mullins is certainly that type of dude,

Starting point is 00:33:00 can steal bags, run around the outfield, make really good plays. And we saw him, I think we've seen him a couple times now against the Mariners, just take over a game and be the best player on the field, which is pretty impressive when you consider the talent that is typically on the field in a Mariners versus Orioles series. So really like him. He's 30 years old. You only get him for a year. He's going to cost you almost $10 million.

Starting point is 00:33:23 He's going to cost you something pretty nice prospect-wise. Like he might cost you a Logan Evans type of guy, maybe a Michael Morrill. Oralis type. But he is a great fit for what Seattle needs. Mostly I would play him in left field and I would have a Rosarena D.H. Most of the time. But again, Mollins could play center so you could have Julio D.H. on certain days.

Starting point is 00:33:43 He could play right. You have Robles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like he fits really well. It is entirely possible. In fact, likely that against right-handed pitching, Rayleigh, Robles, Julio, a Roserina, and Mollins all fit in the lineup. And honestly, they might fit one through five in some order. that's the type of hitters they are so yeah I really like cedric bullets I am pretty invested in that idea

Starting point is 00:34:06 anyone in the bullpen they have quite a few names um Jacob Webb yeah Jacob Webb who yeah I've only seen pitch against the Mariners and I still like him so that should tell you something yeah the mares were able to get to him doesn't seem like anyone else was though this year you go figure Jacob wet the Mariners The Mariners are Jacob Webb's kryptonite. Yeah. Like legit good reliever Jacob Webb and they're just like, no matter. Canoe had a stepback of a year, but he was still pretty good.

Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah. Kegan Aiken, if you're looking to add another lefty to the bullpen. Yeah, I think it's mostly Webb for me. I just think Knoe is going to be a little too expensive for my taste in the bullpen. Obviously, Kimbril's not even on the roster anymore. He got DFA late in the year. Yeah. Yeah, Aiken would be.

Starting point is 00:35:00 fine too. I'm totally fine with that. But yeah, I think it's, it's, you know, mostly the young pitchers. And then I'm looking at Cedric Mollins is kind of who I would, if you're not trading the young pitcher, to me, this is kind of a one player team, unless there's a surprise out there. Like, hey, if you can get Kethekestead for, you know, Harry Ford or Johnny Farm or whatever, right, some kind of prospect for young big leaguer swap. Fine, great, whatever. But I think it's Mollins for me, unless you're trading one of the one of the four pitchers. And then lastly,

Starting point is 00:35:34 the team that's fighting for its life right now, the New York Yankees, the players that stand out to me the most on this roster are all about to hit free agency. Yep. That's Glabor Torres. Right, of course, Juan Soto, but

Starting point is 00:35:49 Glaver Torres, Anthony Rizzo, maybe, if you're looking for that veteran first baseman who's not Carlos Santana or Justin Turner. for a little bit Clay Holmes Yeah

Starting point is 00:36:03 I'm sure they'd love to trade DJ LaMayhew But jokes on you suckers Like you're stuck there Just like you're already I don't think so I think they love the jazz Next year so Yeah I just honestly I look at the Yankees

Starting point is 00:36:16 Major League Rosser and I go Not a ton here Like I mean I guess maybe they could try and sell high on Luke Weaver But again that's a team competing for the world series are they going to trade one of their best bullpen arms to you for minor leaguers? Probably not. So, yeah, I just look at the Yankees overall and I say, you know, there's just not a great fit here. You know, even like even if, for example, the Yankees are like, we really want George Kirby.

Starting point is 00:36:45 Like you look at this team, you're like, are you trading Kirby for Anthony Volpe? No, probably not. It's not a great farm system either. So like even if they wanted one of your pitchers. I don't really see a deal going forward. So, yeah, the Yankees and the Mariners, they just don't line up that well on a major league deal. So, yeah, I think it's maybe jazz if they shop him,

Starting point is 00:37:09 probably not going to, though. Maybe Luke Weaver, if they shop him, probably not going to. By the way, Luke Weaver having success makes me happy. Big Luke Weaver guy here. It is really weird to see a reliever leave the Mariners and get better, though. He found the change-up. Yeah. so he's been amazing

Starting point is 00:37:29 Luke Weaver awesome dude too funny funny dude all right so yeah I think that's about it on the Yankees roster just nothing really too interesting there

Starting point is 00:37:39 with regards to true they're all free agents yeah yeah yeah yeah free agent was yeah there's some there's some stuff here but yeah all right so tomorrow we'll be doing the AL Central

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