Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Ballpark Memories

Episode Date: June 28, 2020

D.C. is joined by Locked On Mariners contributor Jon Miller and Jason "J.D." Hernandez, the newly-minted Locked On Mariners jersey enthusiast. The three of them begin talking about their favorite memories of both Major and Minor League baseball, and also discuss Turn Ahead the Clock jerseys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This is Locked-on Mariners, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Here's your host, D.C. Lundberg. Yes, we're back. Second show of our Saturday double-header coming at your way at this time. This is Locked-on Mariners, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, brought to you by Rock Auto. Please remember to download, rate, and subscribe to Lockdown Mariners on Google Podcast. Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher Radio, or whichever podcasting app, if you personally here to use. Ask your smart device to play Lockdown Mariner's podcast or any of the other wonderful

programs here on the Lockdown Network or T-L-O-P-N-O-P-N-O-P-N-N-N-N-R-G for those scoring at home. Today is the anniversary. Thank you very much, Jason. Today is the anniversary of the final Game of the Kingdom. So today we're going to talk about some of our stadium memories growing up, and I guess of recent vintage as well, because we've got the perfect guest to talk about the stadiums, don't we? And that, of course, is Locked-on Mariner's contributor, John Miller. John, how are you doing today?

I'm doing well. John, you were at the Final Game of the Kingdom as I was, and that was kind of a little bit of a bait and switch. That intro was a little bit of a bait and switch for Jason Hernandez, because ladies and gentlemen, he has gone on a major league, ballpark tour and I believe has been to every single current stadium except for the new Texas stadium which hasn't opened yet from locked on Anaheim Ducks also from the first show of our doubleheader Mr. Jason Hernandez. Jason how are you doing now? We're going NASCAR style double header

baby yeah we are we do this. We'll talk about recent past memories because why not. Absolutely and Jason you are a perfect guest to talk about stadiums I was I was kind of being facetious. Yeah, you were. Yeah. Although, like I said, John and I were at the final game of the kingdom. So I'll start with John,

since it is the anniversary of that game. John, do you have any specific memories of that particular game? Of that particular game, I distinctly remember Edgar Martinez getting kicked out. That is one of the bigger memories that I have of that game also. just prior to the pitch in which was called a strike, which wasn't really a strike, there was a streaker who ran onto the field and broke everybody's concentration, which caused a delay.

And the next pitch, Brian O'Nora called a strike. It wasn't a strike. Edgar snapped, and O'Nora immediately tossed him from the ballgame. Didn't waste a second in doing so. That is one of the... Yes, that did happen. So Edgar Martinez was ejected from the final game of the kids. kingdom. John, do you remember the post-game panel that they had on the field where they had

present and former Mariners on the dais, the speakers platform out there, talking about their favorite kingdom memories? The one thing I remember from that ceremony, I shouldn't say the one because I remember it quite well, I have it on videotape, was Julio Cruz was the first man to speak, and he spoke about fielding the final out of Gaylord Perry's 300th win. and he knew that Gaylord Perry would be mad if he didn't throw the ball to first base on the dry side because, as we all know, Gaylord Perry had a propensity for loading up the ball, as it were. And later on in that same ceremony, Dave Nehouse asked Gaylord Perry how many jerseys he went through that day, you know, because he'd get grease on his jersey and have to go change.

And his answer, nine, which I'm not sure is, I think he was being facetious, but, Jay Buneer spoke at that. Ken Griffey Jr. and senior spoke at that. Lou Panella was going to, but he had to leave. Edgar Martinez spoke. Harold Reynolds gave a pretty nice speech. And I believe Dave Valley was there as well. Dave Valley mentioned Omar Veskel,

bare handing the final play of Chris Basio's no-hitter, for example. Jason, did you ever have the privilege, I guess, to go to the kingdom? I did not unfortunately. The first time I went up to Seattle was in 2003, 2004. Okay. So I never got to make out to kingdom. I never saw it in place because it was imploded before I got out there. But as far as other stadium memories, I am going to start with Seattle first.

We'll talk about other stadiums later, but I want to bring up Seattle because there's a certain recent memory that happened against the Baltimore Orioles in 2018. and why am I bringing that up with the Locked-on Mariners host? Because two years ago, we got a little of a side bet going, and DC had the privileged question mark of trying some insects at Safeco Field. Yep. He didn't like him too much. I didn't like him too much.

And honestly, I don't remember the bet that we had. I have no recollection of placing his bet. It was so long ago I forgot already. Yeah. But I didn't remember the bet at the time either. but there is video of me trying the grasshoppers. John was at this game. He liked the grasshoppers.

I didn't care for too much. I didn't like the texture. See, one thing that I did like a lot about the grasshoppers was they were very versatile. You could put them on anything. And in fact, I put some of those grasshoppers, little suckers, right on the Ivar dog. And you made me put them on my Ivar dog as well. They weren't bad. Taste-wise, it's not bad.

I know for you it's partially, partially taste, partially texture. I know the texture is very bizarre for you because you're eating insects. Yeah, see, the taste was fine for me. I just could not get past the texture. Ah, there's John. John, we were talking about the grasshoppers. To peel back the curtain a little bit, John kind of cut out of our feet a little bit.

But I did not care for the grasshoppers too much. You didn't mind them. I didn't mind them one bit. and I'm not sure if you covered this, as you said, I cut out. But when we were at that game with Jason, he tried them on an ivory dog. That's actually we were just talking about that, yeah. He thoroughly enjoyed it. So that next game that we went to, it may very well have been the last game at Safeco Field.

I think it was. And so my wife, Jacqueline, and I both got an ivory dog and put those on and it was delicious. Yep. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, once you get over the fact that it's an insect, it tastes good. I couldn't get past, insect or no, I couldn't get past the texture. And the legs kept popping off and I couldn't get past that.

And I didn't care if they were legs or not. They could have been strawberry seeds for all I care. I don't like things getting caught in my teeth. I'm sorry for you. You're missing out, man. You know, in a way, I feel like I am, because like I said, the taste was fine. They would make great salad toppers if I could get past the texture. So, John, that's your next thing, is try the grasshoppers on salad.

Well, if we go again to the largest cell phone store in the world, we'll take them out of the ballpark, take them home, and put them on a salad. There you go. And gentlemen, I think we're just running up on a break right now, and indeed we are, so it's time to pose the Mariner's trivia question for the day. And the trivia question reads Thusly, who got the final hit

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Anybody want to wager a guess? I'll just say Edgar Martinez. Wrong. John, do you have a guess? King Ruffy Jr. That is also incorrect. While he was not the final base runner, the final hit in the kingdom was collected by David Bell

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Now time for the second half of Locked On. Mariners. Once again, your host, D.C. Lundberg. That soundy here is John cleaning off his lens because the three of us had video today, which you at home cannot see. But we are back here on Locked-on Mariners. Part of Tlopin, of course, here with John Miller, Locked-on Mariners contributor, and Jason Hernandez, whatever role he has, I have no idea. But where, and he's wearing a jersey enthusiast role. Jersey enthusiast, official Mariners jersey enthusiast, wearing a Cardinals,

jersey today, of course. But not just any Cardinals jersey. Jason, tell the nice folks about it. It is a turn ahead the clock night, Cardinals Jersey. Indeed it is. Of course, the Mariners being the originators of T-B-A-C. No, turn ahead the clock night. T-A-T-C. Whatever. Or tactic. Or whatever it is.

Yeah. So the Mariners had the first iteration of that. They played the royals. And then 21st century decided, oh, we're going to advertise the heck out of this and make this a thing. So, 1999, guess what? A bunch of teams wore turn-ahead-the-clock jerseys, including the Mariners. At least the Mariners decided to go really futuristic.

They did a Birds on the Bat logo, sort of. But they are mechanical birds, and it's a metal bat. It's actually one of the better turn-ahead-the-clog jerseys that were out there because there were some that were not real pretty. were. The Mercury Mets? Yeah, not too good. That was a weird one.

The Rockies were kind of weird. Well, what half the teams did was they just made their regular logos oversized. And there were a couple teams that actually had imagination and kind of redid their logos. The Cardinals made it futuristic metal Cardinals. The twins, they redid their logo and they had little orbits around planet Earth. I thought that one was kind of cool, too. I like the Brewers. The Brewers one was cool.

That one was a different take on the Bernie Brewer beer barrel mascot. Yes. Sorry, not the Bernie Brewer, the beer barrel mascot. That was pretty cool. Yeah. I do like, I remember that the Yankees were quoted saying, well, we're already wearing the jersey of the future because these will be the jerseys for all time. So I applauded the Yankees for that statement.

Yeah, I'm kind of glad that they didn't take part because that would have just looked weird. wouldn't it have John? As you both were saying that, I was wondering what spin they would have taken on the classic pinstripes. Yeah, what would they have done if they were forced to do it? That's a good question, actually. I don't have any ideas off the top of my head. Maybe gray pinstripes?

I don't know. Is that even a tape? Maybe like metallic silver pinstripes. Or neon pinstripes of some sort. I don't know. Whatever they would have done, it would have been bad. Actually, here's something that I'm thinking about now. Of the 30 major league teams, since 1999,

how many of them have their same uniforms from the 1999? Because the Mariners have mostly had an unchanged jersey. The Dodgers have not changed their jerseys. The Red Sox haven't. The Red Sox really haven't. The Yankees really haven't. The Cardinals haven't. Yeah.

The Cubs didn't take part, but the Cubs haven't really changed their jersey much either. No. It's kind of a short list, not to think about it. It is a short list. Now that we've spent seven minutes talking about that, back to ballpark memories, I suppose. And actually, a good ballpark memory is turned back the clock night, because I was at the original and the second one. John, were you at either of them?

I don't think I was. Okay, so maybe that's not such a good topic because I know Jady wasn't either of the either. John, I know you grew up going to both the Kingdom and Cheeney Stadium. I just kind of talk about some of your favorite specific memories that you have, you know, growing up as a young child going to ball games. There was always the excitement. We would get there early enough either at Cheney Stadium, when it was the Tacoma Tigers and then the Tacoma Rainiers

and getting to see some of these players and trying to, I would always keep the scorecard and remember, the names and then go home and watch the big league games come September or maybe even middle of the season that call-ups and I still have card sets from a lot of those years and I can look but like I remember I saw this guy and now he's a big league star some of these guys that and kind of infamous in Seattle but Alex Rodriguez I saw him in the minor leagues and you've spoken I think about seeing Raula Banya's in the minor leagues too, if I recall. Yes, sir.

And there were times where we caught, say, I believe, Ken Griffey Jr. And guys like Kazahiro Sasaki or something on a rehab assignment. Yeah. We were just, we were going to a Tacoma Rainier's game and they were rehabbing. So we saw them with the team. There was one Everett Aqua Sox game that I went to in which there was a mariner on a rehab assignment. So, you know, I don't remember who else was playing at that particular time for the Aqua Sox, but we got to see Greg Colbron go 0 for 4. Oh, wow. He was rehabbing in Everett at the time.

Jason, do you have any specific memories about going to the ballpark growing up? Oh, depends on the ballpark, because I went to a lot of minor league games out in Rancho Cucamonga, went to, what was it, Lake Elsinore when they first opened. Ball parks plural then, yes. Yeah, there were fun games. But I definitely have memories of going to Dodger Stadium and Angel Stadium as youth. One of my favorite memories growing up at Dodger Stadium was getting to do the photo days and meeting some of the players back then.

I met players like Juan Samuel, Eddie Murray, when he was a Dodger. Wow. Which was a big deal back then because I'm like, it's Eddie Murray. He's big time. Slam dunk Hall of Famer. Yeah. with one of the lowest wars, but still slam dunk hall of famer. Most home runs for a switch hitter ever,

one of the few players with 500 home runs, 3,000 hits. And when he was in his younger days, a very good defensive first baseman, and a leader on the Baltimore Orioles at a very young age. The veterans were taking his lead because of his work ethic and the way he carried himself, and he couldn't understand why. I also, I don't want to say traumatic sports memory,

but there's a reason why I never, ever leave games and it happens in my youth. And I've talked about this on Locked on Angels. Yep. My aunt, Fourth of July game, decided to leave an Angels game early because it was a blowout at the time. And because Angel Stadium was enclosed at the time because the rounds were still playing there, you had to walk to the parking lot, leave the stadium entirely because you

couldn't see the fireworks from where you were sitting. So you had to go out to the parking lot, get a good spot, and stay out there. Well, we waited and waited and waited. The game went extra innings. I heard the crowd going, we're like, what the crap is going on? So that was the first and only time. Is that a lie? Maybe it is. That I snuck back into Angel Stadium.

I had a ticket. I was a kid. I didn't know better. But I snuck back in because it was a late game. It eventually went into, I think, 12 innings. Angels eventually won that game on a walk-off. And then I ran out, met my family at the spot, and saw the fireworks from the back, but I didn't care because I got to see the Angels walk off.

That's more important. So I thought that was cool. Yeah. But that is why I never leave a game early, and I still blame her for that. I had a similar experience, I think, in 1999, you was still at the Kingdom. They hadn't moved to Safeco Field yet. It was 1999 because this specific player was a mariner this year only. I was at the game with a friend of mine and his father

and his father always left the games early because, you know, he had to get up for work the next morning, so, you know, fifth or sixth inning, you know, time to go. And on the way home, the Mariners were losing when we left, and on the way home, Butch Husky hit a grand slam, and the Mariners wound up winning the game. And I was not real happy about that. Not, you know, kind of one of the few things Butch Husky did well as...

No, he actually did pretty well as a mayor, he just couldn't field. Why am I talking about Butch Husky? In any case... I don't know, but I want to ask you, YouTube a question. Please do. And I kind of want to bring this up because I have my own answers for this.

So what are some of the memories you have where maybe a specific historic moment happened? Or what's one of the games that you will always remember for something historic? DC, you're smiling, you're smirking. You have an answer, don't you?

Well, yeah, I actually have two answers. One of them, the first one that came to mind, which is why he is asking this question. I have to talk about this. I was at the game in Safeco Field where Raphael Palmero got his 3,000. thousandth hit. Nice. Which we all later was found out, you know,

he had some help with that, so it's not legitimate. So that's, so I was at that game. I was also at a game in 1997, which I talked about on the show, was the second game of the 1997 season in the kingdom against the Yankees, where Tino Martinez hit three home runs against the Mariners, a solo home run, a two run home run, and a three run

home run. And he had two shots at a salami, which would have made him the first player to hit home runs for cycle. He wound up not doing it, but it was a 16 to 2 loss, and especially since Tino was a former mariner, everybody was chanting his name because they wanted him to get that grand slam to hit home runs for the cycle and have four home runs in a game, but as it stands, that had to be the game of Tino Martinez's life, and that actually was rather enjoyable. Nice. How about you, John? I can't think of any specific heroics that come to mind that stand out as being those milestone type things.

That's a shame. I mean, Seattle's had some pretty good milestones. You know, the 116 win season, maybe you saw one of those games that season. I was in Alex Rodriguez's first game back. All right. That was fun. As you know, I've been to a few of those historic games, mainly because I try. I tried to place myself at the ballpark during those historic moments.

You know, I saw a perfect game, Dennis Martinez, was at Angel Stadium about this time last year, almost to the day. We had the no-hitter against the Mariners, where the Angels no-hit them, but that was a very emotional game. That game was over when Mike Trout hit the home run as the second batter in the bottom of the first inning. Over. When Mike Trout had that time.

And pointed to the booth where these scags, family was, people around me were crying. I didn't lose it yet. I only lost it when it was towards the very end when they placed all the jerseys on the mound. That's why I lost it. You know, and getting into the later stages of that

game and John, maybe you can speak to this a little bit as well. Watching it on TV, I was in Spokane at that time. I wasn't living in Seattle anymore, but as the game progressed and the no-hitter kept not, you know, the no-hitter was still intact,

I have to admit on Locked-on Mariners, this has to be one of the few times, maybe it's the only time I can think of off the top of my head where I was actually rooting for the opposing team. Just because given the circumstances, let's let the angels have their day after what they have been through. And I'm happy that they got their no-hitter. And yeah, I was rooting against my team. Sorry, guys.

there's that time and DC you might remember this I think you were at the game with us where the Mariners played the Dodgers at Safeco Field and I'm decked out in my Mariners cap and my Dodgers shirt and literally every hit I'm cheering the Dodgers get a hit I'm cheering and I might have been the only one in that section the Dodgers creamed them and oh that was a great game and I've never felt so bipolar in my life Another thing I remember from that game, John, is that Robbins, that was Robinson Canoe's first game back from being suspended. And the four of us, you and your wife, Jacqueline, me and my friend Shannon,

we were all booing the hell out of Robinson Canoe at the time. Yes. At the time. And I think we were the only ones doing that, but he deserved it. Yeah, given everything. Yeah. And I could talk about milestone games all day. But I know you have to wrap it up.

So, yeah, I have other stuff from Ballpark. because I've been all 30 of them a little Mariners magnet and a beer ship from Cardinals Nation I still have this from the Hall of Fame Club so I got I got interviewed at

St. Louis because that was my 30th and final stadium Oh okay yeah because I brought a sign that said 30 for 30 they interviewed me at St. Louis I don't know where that video is but they interviewed me they gave me a bunch of free beer and I used almost all of it.

I'm glad that you kept one of those tokens. I don't know if I have anything from ballparks, specifically mementos. The weirdest thing that I have is a napkin from the Hit It Here Cafe when they had the public memorial service to Dave Nehouse when they were serving salami sandwiches on rye bread. I kept the napkin. I kept the napkin it was served with.

Interesting. That's an interesting memento. John, do you have any weird little mementos like that from ballparks? I have been on several ballpark tours in Camden Yards and Safeco Field and the Kingdom and stuff like that and as they take you through the on the little route they take on the field and through the

dugouts and stuff like that, usually one of the media team or scorekeepers will leave a pencil. One of those little stubby pencils and I've managed like, okay, just take this one and it has the team name on it. Are you kidding me? You took the scorekeeper's pencil? That's awesome. I love it.

Yes. I never even thought about that. But now you will, J.D. He's given you a good idea. No, because I was a scorekeeper myself. I bring my own pens. I bring my own stuff to the arenas. All right.

When I work the games, because I don't want him taking my pens. All right, fair enough. Fair enough. And I have to go back on something I said earlier about not rooting against the Mariners that was going to... I grew up an Orioles fan. I used to go to a lot of Baltimore Orioles games at the Kingdom.

So, yeah, I was rooting for the Orioles at that time. But after Cal Ripkin Jr. retired, no more. No, thank you. I was a Mariters fan through and through at that point. Not much of a fan of Peter Angelos. And I don't know if there are a lot of people in Baltimore who are fans of Angelos as well. Jady is shaking his head emphatically. No, they're not.

Gentlemen, anything else? Any profound final thoughts before we wrap up the show? I miss going to the ballparks. I mean, we are talking about ballpark memories because they are right now memories. Yeah. Because we haven't been to a ballpark in so long. I hope that a vaccine is found soon, and we can get back to going to baseball games in 2021,

and I can get back to bringing John and his wife, and DC can come out to Seattle, maybe have some more grasshoppers. John's okay with this. Y'all can come to Spokane. John's okay with the grasshopper. Y'all can come to Spokane and we can take in a Spokane Indians game,

which is actually affordable. Or I can do what John mentioned, and now I'm thinking about this, is bring some grasshoppers with us to Spokane. Yes, but there's a minor league rule. No outside food allowed in minor league stadiums, which actually is okay because the food is actually reasonably priced at the minor league stadiums. And it's pretty decent, too.

You know, I will go on record and saying that the food at Avista Stadium is better than the food at Safeco Field. Oh, hands down. Are there grasshoppers? No. No. So right to Avista Stadium or right to the Spokane Indians. Right to the Brett brothers, George and Ken Brett. They own the Spokane Indians.

Give them the idea to serve the grasshoppers. at a Vista Stadium and tell them that Locked on Anaheim Ducks sent you. I'm under the bus. Thanks a lot. Oh, you're welcome. And just for that, I will let you go first.

As we close out, J.D. Where can people find you on Twitter? Where can people find your show and any other thoughts that you want to bestow upon the listening audience? People can find me on the Locked On Podcast Network on Locked-on Anaheim Ducks. Just type in Locked on Anaheim Ducks, and you'll find it.

Or you could ask your smart device to play locked on Anaheim Ducks, and that should work, because if you say locked on ducks, you might get the Oregon Ducks feed, so make sure you say the city and the team. Or you'll get a cooking show. Yeah, we'll have all our ducks in a row. And you could find us on Twitter at L-O-U-Uks, or personally at Steampy J-D,

as in Ren and Stimpy. because everybody loves a good 90s snick cartoon. And don't at me, but I think Renan Stimpy was slightly better than Rugrats. But Doug was up there as well. I may or may not have the box set of Doug.

Really? Yes. Of Doug. Of Doug, yes. We're going to have to pay money if you go out. Sorry. Sorry. I only did the opening melody and that was it. I did just enough to not get sued.

then that's exactly where I cut you off to it. I appreciate that. Jason, thank you again for joining us. Always a lot of fun having you on the show. And these video shows actually are a lot more fun than just audio. John is shaking his head, yes. Myself and make John laugh while he tells us where we can find him. I can be found on the Twitter sphere at Seattle Pilot 69. Nice. Yes, John, always a pleasure having you on the show as well.

as J.D. distracts us with a miniature Rubik's cube. Yikes. Anyways, next time on Locked-on Mariners, ladies and gentlemen, I will be joined by guest panelists, Larry Tate, Gorgon Heap, and a belt sander. You will not want to miss the conversation the four of us will have.

It promises to be a dandy, as the late great Dave Nehouse would say. Uh, JD, thank you very much for throwing me off. But please do remember, download rate and subscribe to Locked-on Mariner's on Google Podcast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher Radio, or whichever

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