Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - BREAKING: Mariners Beef Up Bullpen With Ryne Stanek

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

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With Gregory Santos, Matt Brash, and Jackson Co are all dealing with injuries. The Marrins went out this morning and added arguably the best reliever left on the free agent market. We'll discuss the arrival of Ryan Stanick and some of our takeaways from our chat with Jerry to Potto yesterday coming up here on the Lockdown Marrars podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Oh, Hoy, sailors. It is Friday, March 8th, 2024. This is Tadding-A-S-Las and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marys podcast, brought to you by Fanduel.

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And we're still going to do that. But we actually have a major league move to talk about first. the Mariners, surprisingly, have signed right-handed reliever Ryan Stanick to a one-year, $4 million deal, which can go up to $6 million based on incentives. Colby, what do you think? Yeah, it's a pretty interesting deal. You know, it's quite a few people were surprised by the price because it was March 8th, but I honestly think that the only reason you were able to get Stanick for $4 million, guaranteed,

is because it was March 8th. Sure. This is a guy who in a normal offseason based on his resume probably get between $6 to $8 million and because of the upside here probably closer to $8 million a year. So the fact that he's signing for $4 million guaranteed is, you know, it's indicative of the fact that it's March 8th. And he's coming off of a, you know, a down year for him. He was overall okay, like not great, not awful or anything like that. But yeah, I think, you know, four million bucks is about right. We don't know what the incentives are.

So for all we know, they're just insane incentives that are never going to happen. Or maybe it's just a simple, you know, every five appearances or 10 appearances or whatever. Like, we don't know. So we don't know how likely it is that he gets to that $6 million mark. But if he does, you still got him for the low end of what he would get most off seasons. So, yeah, overall, it's a good move. I mean, it's just money, right? I know a lot of people, you know, wanted the mayor to spend.

And by the way, this, this technically, I believe I don't, I don't have the exact number. But I believe this does fulfill Jerry's promise of having a higher opening day payroll this year than they did last year. Sure. Even if it is only by like $500,000. Technically. Technically. He didn't lie. But, yeah.

So it's an interesting move. Stanick definitely doesn't differently than other guys. guys in the Mariners pin. So it is a contrast style between what the Mariners traditionally do. It's also a, I don't want to say it's a change in philosophy because this might be a one-off, but this is a team that has built their bullpen through trades, through castoffs, through waiver wires, through reclamation projects. It's not, it's been a while since they've gone out and spent significant money on any

relief pitcher that they, they themselves didn't first acquire off the scratch. rap heat or develop themselves basically. So Stannick definitely stands out in a couple regards. Yeah, I think this is a matter of they saw an opportunity, right? Stanik's still out there. It's March 8th. Why not? We have a couple of injuries in the bullpen.

And as far as the injuries are concerned, I think this is more bad news on the Jackson CoR front rather than Matt Brash or Gregory Santos. We saw Santos through a bullpen today. And unless things have significantly changed in the last 25-ish hour. since we talked to Jerry Depoto yesterday, I don't think this really means anything for Matt Brash either. So I like this move,

but like you mentioned, they haven't really done this a lot, at least in terms of, you know, in recent years, adding an established major league reliever via free agency. And that's at least partly because that hasn't gone particularly well for them in the past. You know, we've talked a lot about how great this organization is, with identifying relievers and getting the most out of relievers, but that hasn't been the case at all with free agent major league relievers.

You think about Ken Giles, Yoshiharaano, Juan Nacosio, Mark Scepchensky. But nevertheless, really like this deal. This goes back to what I've been saying over the last few weeks about go out, go get yourself a little too much. And that's exactly what Stannick is, especially if what Jerry told us yesterday is accurate. And Matt Brash and Gregory Santos are going to pitch at some point. next month because you are potentially looking at a bullpen that could consist of

Andreas Munoz, Matt Brash, Gregory Santos, Gabe Spire, Ryan Sanik, Carlos Fargus, Taylor Saucato, and then Trent Thornton, awesome both, whoever wins that eighth spot by the end of April. That's a pretty damn good bullpen on paper. Sure. I mean, Brash has to get and stay healthy. Santos has to get and stay healthy. Right.

and you know and stanick obviously has to rebound off of what was a pretty pedestrian year last year. So there's still some, you know, question marks in the pen, but everything works out the way that certainly the Mariners hope, it's pretty hard to find a better one through six. And that's not counting if somebody like Vargas pops or if you, I don't know, you find somebody like Ty Butchery, maybe he pops again. And like there's still some upside in that group of arms that is like, headed to Tacoma now. So, yeah, I think, you know, there's still probably one spot open in the bullpen because, as Jerry told us yesterday, he doesn't anticipate Santos being ready by opening

day. So Stanek will take the brash spot in the bullpen. And I feel like CoR had the inside track, but we'll have to wait and see how he, how he's feeling. And if this move is a direct response to finding out that CoR is going to miss significant time. So, yeah, there's still a spot open. But, yeah, if everything goes right, you know, I think Stanick probably just in terms of like Ross stuff is probably the fourth best reliever in this bullpen behind the big three that Seattle has.

And it's possible he's the sixth best, maybe even the seventh best if Vargas can consistently find the strike zone. So it has the potential to be a really filthy bullpen. And Stanick represents something that the Mariners don't have a lot of. It's a different style than what you're going to see from a lot of the other bullpen guys. So definitely an interesting ad. It's definitely going a little bit over the top of what was probably going to be a fine bullpen without Munoz and Brash. And then those two guys themselves would be big additions to the bullpen. But they went out and they got a guy who probably going to be asked to handle several high leverage situations while we wait for Santos and Brash to get healthy.

So yeah, it's certainly something the Mariners need in the short term, but this is also not a move they had to make. This is definitely a go a little bit over the top, get a little greedy type of move. And we'll see how it affects what they're able to do at the deadline when we get to the actual deadline. Yeah, the big question here is how much money do they have left, right? Does this mean that they have more money than we thought? or if it's pretty much in line with what we thought $4 to $6 million is a lot for a guy that on the outside looking in, it's pretty much a luxury for them.

So we'll see how it plays out. We're going to get more into the player, Stanick himself, what he brings to the table, and get into our takeaways from our interview with Jerry to Poto yesterday. And just a moment, but first, a reminder of this episode of the Lockdowner's podcast is brought to you by Factor Meals. Eating better is easy with factors delicious ready to eat meals.

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So another note on Stannock here. Again, like we mentioned, coming off of a down year in his third season with the Astros for all. 09 ERA 460 FIP, 506 X-FIP. That is not particularly good. 0.1. F4 and 50 in two-thirds innings pitch. 906, Ks per 9, 373 walks per nine. This was the first time in his entire career. He's gone under a 10% walk rate.

He's really struggled with the walks. The splitter is also starting to fade over the last couple of seasons. So, Colby, where are you at with Stannick from a pure statistical and stuff standpoint. Yeah, so stuff-wise, it's still pretty good stuff. The fastball velo has remained consistent. He's one of the hardest throwers in all of baseball. Consistently sits 98, 99.

Obviously, he can touch triple digits. And the splitter is still generating plenty of whiffs. But it is not quite as effective as it was in the past. He's getting, it's getting a bit more spin on a splitter, which is actually a problem. typically you want more spin. That's kind of, you know, the thing you want. But with changeups and splitters, you want less spin. So the spin rate on that pitch has gone up the last three years,

not quite as significantly as, you know, it did between 21 and 22, but still went up again. So he's kind of trying to find the feel for that pitch, but it's still pretty effective in terms of getting swings and misses. The slider is really mediocre at best. Last year it was flat out bad. And the weird thing about Stannick is that he threw the slider almost as much as he threw the splitter. Like that shouldn't be the case.

Stannick should be pretty much exclusively at this stage, fastball splitter. Fastball at the top of the zone, that's where he likes to pitch. He likes to ride the top rail. And then he throws that splitter off of that same plane and it dives down. And that's how he traditionally gets swings and misses. He's, you know, so it could be a pitch mix thing there. It could be Seattle simply doing what they've done a lot and saying, hey, forget the pitches that don't do well. You have two good pitches.

Throw them. Forget the slider. It's not working for you. Or it could be, hey, throw fewer fastballs, throw more splitters, right? Because he started to throw a few more four seamers last year. So his best pitch is his splitter. So how do you get to that pitch consistently? Well, A, you just throw it more than you did last year.

And B, you have to throw the fastball. You have to ditch one of your other pitches. and you have to throw the fastball with better command than he did last year. So it's fine. If you're 98, 99, you can get away with pitches in the middle of the plate, but not always, right? You really have to be at that top rail. And the splitter we know is a dangerous pitch because if you don't, if you don't get the, the dip that the splitter typically has, it just kind of floats into the middle of the plate right into the power zone.

So for me, I think the Mariners probably look at this and they say, hey, let's ditch the slider or the slider as much. as we can. Let's get you back to what made you one of the better set up men in baseball over the last couple of years. And that is going fastball at the top of the zone, splitter down, and just kind of alternating between those two pitches. You know, I don't know, there might be a health reason why he hasn't thrown the splitter as much. Like there's, but there's no reason for him to throw the same number of sliders as he does splitters. The slider is just not that good of a pitch. So he needs to throw more split fingers. He needs to throw more four seamers. And that's, What makes him different from the other Mariners, right?

He's four seam split, whereas a lot of the Mariners' arms in their bullpen right now are two-seem slider, sinker slider type of guys. So it's a different look for sure. It's kind of a different arsenal. And, you know, the walks are interestingly enough, not something the Mariners have ever shied away from acquiring in the bullpen. They're willing to live with walks so long as you miss bats. So, you know, we saw them do it with Austin Adams. We saw them do it with Matt Brash. We've seen them do it with Munoz.

They will go out and they'll get guys who walk dudes. They're fine with that, which is interesting because their mantra of dominate the zone, control the zone. It doesn't seem to apply to their bullpen targets, but they find a way to make it work because they still get strikeouts. And so I think there's a really good chance. Stanit can rebound, but it will have to see what the Mariners have, what their idea is. Maybe it's maybe they turn the slider into a cutter. You know, they've done that. a few times. So I want to see what the Mariners Pitching Lab can do. They've only got a couple

weeks to get it done here. But Stannock can be, you know, a high leverage arm. Like he has been that in the recent pass. It's just last year he was just kind of a mediocre bullpen arm. So is that the new Stannock or can the Marys fix them? When it comes to pitching, I tend to trust the Mariners. And I bet they can get Stannock somewhere between what he was in 2021, which was dominant and what he was in 2022, which was pretty good. He's already gotten away from the slider a little bit over the last couple years. It's his least used pitch, but it's pretty much in line with how much he's used the split finger. It's literally only been a matter of a few.

Yeah, yeah, five more splitters this past year than sliders. A little bit of a bigger gap, but not that big in 2022. 206 spliters to 166 sliders. But the key here is that it's gotten hit. very, very hard, which wasn't the case earlier on in his career with that slider. But the last couple of years, in 2022, 280 batting average, 320 slug, and then this past year, 296 batting average, 519 slug. Still generating a lot of whiffs with the pitch, but again, when hitters are getting the bat on that pitch,

they're doing damage with it more often than not. Right, which typically means it's staying elevated. It's staying up in the zone and just kind of dropping right into the wheelhouse. of most hitters. He's got to clean that up. But if he can, you know, you read off the 2021 numbers and tell me if you get that guy in this bullpen, what it does for you. And just a refresher of who that guy was, 342ERA, 411 FIP, 455 XFIP, 1093Ks per 9, 487 walks per 9, and almost 70 innings pitch. Yeah.

Pretty good pitcher. Yeah. He's definitely more of a mid-leverage guy, mid-high leverage guy. But you could use some of that in this bull. You already have three high leverage guys, assuming they're all healthy. Right. I mean, he's at his best. He's better than Gabe Spire.

So he's a pretty good arm. But yeah, there are some things to work on. All right. So let's get into our takeaways from our interview with Jerry Depoto yesterday. We won't spoil it all. We want you guys to go listen to it if you haven't already. But Colby,

what was the biggest thing that that stood out to you? uh when talking to jerry yesterday i know exactly where you're going with us do you i know exactly where you're going with us let's see if you how about the fact that jerry all but confirmed that they had zero interest in buying at last year's deadline we're relitigating the deadline of course we are zero interest like he he pretty much made it plain his day that like yeah we were at 500 we were like five teams in front of us like it just didn't make sense for us to buy we couldn't have foreseen the hot april that or the hot August that we were going to have.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you guys can go listen to it and tell me maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it sure as heck seemed to me. My interpretation of it was that, yeah, we had no intention of buying at the deadline last year. When he said that, I started to get flashbacks. It was bad. Yeah. Interesting. And, you know, that kind of, you know, coincides of what we heard because we also heard that they got really close to trading to Oscar Hernandez. And they were having really good conversations about Thai France. And just because they were acquiring major leagueers or players close to being major league ready in some of those deals proposed deals uh those were still selling moves they were certainly not uh interesting at best at best the way that you could

spend that is major leager for major leaguer moves buying right and selling yeah and even that which is basically staying in the middle sure you're you're selling you know proven major leaguers for guys who boy i hope they can rebound major league or I hope they, you know, take a step in the next year or two major leaguers. So definitely not buying. So I thought that was pretty interesting that Jerry essentially admitting that there was no scenario at last year's deadline where they were even entertaining like a Mark Kana type of ad. They weren't going to do it. And I think that's a mistake.

I think that, you know, we couldn't anticipate the hot August. That's true. But it happened all the same. and being five teams back, being the fifth team out when you're only two games back, it's not the same as, you know, being five games, you know, five teams ahead of you and we're seven games back.

Nope. Wasn't the case. Wasn't the case. So I didn't like that at all. I think that's a really bad way to run your baseball team. So hopefully, you know, they don't do it again this year. And hopefully that means that they're,

well, hopefully they're not in that position this year. Right. That's what I mean. Like, they're not in a position where Jerry is going to do the same thing, which is, you know, we're kind of in the playoff,

huh? Let's see what we can get for Andre Smoonios and see if we can get a couple of major league, almost major league ready players for him. Like, let's hope that's not the case. But, yeah,

I thought it was interesting that he basically admitted that we had no intention of buying last year whatsoever. All right. So we're going to get into more of our takeaways in just a moment. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Merris podcast is brought to you by Amazon Fire TV.

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We're diving into our takeaways from our discussion with Jerry to Poto yesterday. Be sure to check out that episode if you haven't already. It's on YouTube. It's on all the podcast platforms. So the next thing that I wanted to get into was what I thought was the biggest takeaway ultimately from our interview that they have broached the topic of extensions

with some of their core players. It sounds like they're very interested. And Jerry went as far as to say that they're going to get as aggressive as they can get and getting those deals done. So what did you think about that? and who do you think can potentially be first? I tell you one name that did kind of like pop out as like maybe they might try something here.

Carlos Vargas. I mean. That's interesting. Yeah. It's a guy who's got six years of club control off, but if you can get an Andres Munoz type of deal out of that, then maybe that's the guy. You know, I think, I still for me, I think, I believe Jerry when he says, you know,

we've been in contact, we've been in touch. we've been in touch and we've talked about this with certain guys. And I do think he's talking about Logan and Cal and George. I just don't see the incentive to get that done for the player in particular. For the Mariners, there's a ton of incentive. For the players, I don't see it. And so I didn't get the impression that anything was close or that they've had anything more than just kind of exploratory talks with any of those guys. So I didn't get the sense of that meant that, like, they were definitely, you know, finishing up,

getting something like that done, but it is something that the Mariners have been doing. And, you know, Jerry talked again yesterday about trying to maximize your window and extend the wind and have the window always be open. Well, one of the ways you do that is by extending young guys to below market deals. So who do you, who do you do that with on this team? Obviously, Gilbert, Kirby, Raleigh, do any of those guys make a lot of sense to get done right now? Not for the player. Really not for the player. So, you know, and the Dylan Moore extension kind of came out of nowhere.

We weren't expecting that one. So I think if you're looking for like potential extensions on this team, obviously you want the big three, you know, one of those guys to get done. And I do think that they would like to get that done too. Well, he did mention being in the hot zone for signing guys. And what do we think that means? Probably, you know, guys are probably four years out. Yeah, right. But probably guys that are three to four years out from free agency rather than five.

or six or one to two, right? I don't, it's kind of that sweet spot. And who fits that, that, that mold, who fits that bill? That's Cal Raleigh. That's Logan Gilbert. Right. So it's one of those things where, though, like, we know the mayors are willing to make extension offers to players who haven't even debuted in the big leagues.

Sure. They did it with Evan White. They, we know they approached Jared Kalnick about it. We know they approach Logan Gilbert about it. And that's just who we know about all before those guys made their major league debut. So I wouldn't rule out like close prospects, but who's who fills that like niche? Who's the guy who's going to be in the big leagues this year where it makes a ton of sense to try and get him at a club control cost. Maybe Cole Young.

Yeah, maybe. But again, what's the rush? Like you have him for seven years. So like you're not going to do that with Ryan Bliss. There's really no point. So yeah, I feel like, you know, maybe it was Matt Brash before all this, but, you know, I'd have to see how they feel about as medical. So might be, but, you know, we'll have to wait and see how they feel about his medicals and his health and all that stuff.

I mean, maybe they feel that this is an even better opportunity for them to, to sign Matt Press to an extension. Yeah, maybe he's willing to listen. Yeah. On a deal like that. Sure. I mean, maybe it's Santos, but they just brought over. I mean, pretty much anybody makes sense for an extension, like, from the team standpoint.

Like, because signing a player to an extension, a team-friendly deal is. always beneficial to the team. Even the Evan White thing. Like, yeah, that one didn't work, but you would still take that shot again. Like they're not getting spooked by the Evan White extension. That's not happening. Yeah. So, yeah, you know, I think they would like to get Logan or Kirby done.

I still think it's pretty risky for the Mariners to sign cow more so than it is for cow to sign with the Mariners. But yeah, you know, it, nothing specific, but it was interesting to hear him talk about how they're not as i don't remember the exact phrase but we're not a sit back and and wait for it type of franchise so like i do think that they are going to try and get at least one of those guys done this year yeah doesn't make a lot of that guy to sign not really i don't think so just trying to read between the lines a little bit of what he said when he's talking about that hot zone again the the first couple of names that comes to mind there cow rally and and and and and

Logan Gilbert. So I think that's who specifically he was referring to, at least in that moment. And he did speak outwardly about core players, right? So, right? Who's part of the core, right? It's guys like that. It's guys like George Kirby. So,

what else stood out to you from our interview? It sure seems like Jerry loves him some Logan Evans. Does. I'll say that. I think we know where Keith law got his information from.

I'll just say that yeah Evans when I was Keith law for those I don't know who ranked Logan Evans 14th in his top 20 top 30 marriage prospects whatever yeah yeah um yeah what I heard about Evans was that when I was doing research for our top 30 that he was 94 95 decent stuff just

you know was just a dude really struggled at pit like he didn't perform in college at all and it's just kind of like eh you know if his stuff takes a step forward he might be interesting well jerry gets on the show yesterday and tells us that he's up to 99 uh you know sitting in the high 90s with what what he's bowling ball sinker or whatever and a really good uh slider like okay i'm listening because that's a reliever profile right there at the very least uh so yeah him hyping up logan evans was certainly uh eye opening um definitely guy i'm going to watch a little bit more now because when I read the profile as it was presented, you know,

last year at the draft and after his first year, it was, oh, 92 to 94 with some sink, slider, throws enough strikes to be interesting. It just kind of like, you know, number five starter, last guy in the bullpen type of type of arm. But yeah, he's 97, 98, touching 99 with a sinker and a pretty good slider. Obviously, that's something to monitor. Uh, so, you know, we'll have to wait and see. But yeah, he, he really went out of his way to hype up Logan Evans, which may or may not be for trade purposes. But, uh, yeah, that, that was certainly interesting. And obviously, Jerry is very excited about this young group of position players that they are coming through the system right now. Yeah, he literally said, now you got me to liven up. Got a big grin on his face

as soon as we mentioned prospects. Yeah. Yeah. all right so i i know i know you want to do this i'm going to give you the floor you know i asked about brodie hopkins you're upset with me about doing that why is that tell everyone why that we only had 25 minutes right let's set the scene here so tie and i spent about an hour i don't know or so i've just like concentrated sit down planning out the uh our question and we recorded that for you guys if you're subscribers to the Patreon. Yeah, if you want to hear our process and prepping for the Jerry interview,

you can actually listen to that. Sure. And the way it just so happened to work out is that we had our group of questions and then it's, you know, how many of these questions can we get to in 25 minutes? And, you know,

is Jerry going to, you know, stay on a topic for longer than we, we would like him to or is he going to be short on some of these answers? And so, you know, you're always kind of guessing in your head about where, well,

is it just so happens? The fate's aligned. And we get a message that says last question. And we only have one question left. To be fair. I thought silence. One question left on our sheet. Can I just tell my side real quick?

No. Let me just tell my side. No. I am muting you. You will let me finish. Then you could tell your side. So we had one question left on the sheet. One question left in the interview.

We're at like 24 minutes. literally perfect we timed it perfectly and that was with even a few like off the cuff questions like we literally had it timed perfectly for me to ask my question and I was going to ask Jerry what he thought about my Jerry Depoto acquisition card collection the one that Aaron Goldsmith called well a worthless endeavor yeah we were going to see what Jerry thought about that

and instead I decided to go like so you really like Brody Hopkins huh And the final question became about Brody Hopkins and the athleticism with Johnny Farmello instead of about my card collection. There was the one thing I really wanted to ask. We literally had it timed perfectly for me to ask that question. And here comes Ty. Just wouldn't let me have my moment. Just had to bring up Brody Hopkins and the rest is history.

Good job, Ty. Am I allowed to speak now? Yeah, go ahead. Go for it. Okay. So we got a message that this. is the last question. It was while Jerry was asking or was answering the prospect question. It was right in the middle of him gushing about Logan Evans. I thought that meant that was the last question.

And when I mentioned Brody Hopkins, it was just off the cuff. I thought he was just going to say, yeah, he's he's a great athlete or whatever. I didn't even form it in the phrase of a question. I did not think that he was going to go on that long about Brody Hopkins. I did not view it as an actual question. but I apologize and I will give you ample time next time we talk to Jerry DePoto to tell him all about your collection assuming that we have the opportunity

assuming that we have the opportunity to talk to him again you can tell them all about your card collection I'll give you 20 minutes to tell him all about your card collection I didn't need 20 minutes I needed the last minute we had that's it I don't know if it's going to one minute the one minute we planned for that question we had and we literally timed it perfectly we were overtime we were not they said

130 it was 133 what if you asked that one question and then he wasn't able to finish ryan stanick deal oh yeah because that's totally like jerry sleeps get a hold of yourself man so jerry has no idea about my card collection now because of tie and all i wanted was to know if he was going to call it a worthless endeavor. I did that for you. Right. Because if he called it worthless, like Goldsmith, you would have your shining moment. Oh, I would run that clip forever. I know. I was trying to give it to you. And you're like, okay, so I robbed myself too. So I potentially rob myself too here. Two, mostly me. Because here's the, I think you know, Jerry would have loved that. And you were

jealous and you were worried that we would have had a friendship and a bond that you would never be able to compete with. True. So you sabotage. me. Right. At least you got a decent story out of it. So, so jealous. You have to share it with the world tie. At least you had enough lighting for both you and Jerry after his lights went out.

You still sabotage me. So you have to share me with the world tie. I cannot be contained. We got to figure out here. You can't cage this bird. We got to figure out your camera situation. I got to fly. I don't know why it's so red. why is it so red I don't know I got to mess with some settings on the camera I guess I don't even know how to do that so

it started doing that on like Monday or Tuesday that's going to do it for our show thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown mariner's podcast for colby pat node I'm tidang gonzalez be sure to give us a follow on twitter at l o underscore mariners you can follow me at tydane gonzalez and colby at cpet 11 that's cpat 1-1 you can also find all that stuff in the description of this episode thank you again for making us your first listen have yourself a beautiful well day and we'll see you next time peace so tell me about brodie hopkins great athlete right jerk nan nan nan na na na na na na na na na yeah