Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - BREAKING: SEATTLE MARINERS TRADE LUIS CASTILLO TO CHICAGO WHITE SOX

Episode Date: August 2, 2026

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All right. So the Mariners have actually found a way to make a Luis Castillo trade work. Let's talk about it. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors. My name is Tudding Azales, and I'm joined as always by my host. Colby Patnode.

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And we knew this was ultimately their preference to clear room in the rotation. And now they've done it. Per Jeff Passon of ESPN, Luis Castillo is heading to the Chicago White Sox for reliever Sir Anthony Dominguez, outfielder Nolan Jones, and catching prospect Boston Smith. Now, there have been conflicting reports about whether or not the mayors are also sending money to the White Sox in this deal. But Alden Gonzalez of ESPN, Adam Tut of the Seattle Times, John Marosi, all of them have said that the White Sox are taking on the remainder of Castillo's contract, which is about roughly $30 million. So the Mariners are shedding about half of that when you factor in Sir Anthony and Mingus's money.

And I think Nolan Jones is also making a little bit of money this year. but we'll get into the specifics of that a little bit later on, you know, as well as the rest of this return. But Colby, I think the only appropriate way to start this podcast is to first and foremost thank Luis Castillo. Because, you know, I was at game one of the AOL Wildcar back in 2022 against the Blue Jays. I'm not sure if you do that or not. Yeah, yeah, I was. Talk about that more. Yeah.

But, you know, I was there for maybe Luis's most iconic moment in America. Mariners uniform. And the trade that brought him here from Cincinnati a little over four years ago was, you know, the episode that really kickstarted this podcast kicked us off into high gear and to ultimately where we are now. And more importantly, it marked the end of the rebuild for the Mariners and the end of those dark days and the beginning of the end of the playoff drought of the division drought and just, you know, the beginning of this era of Mariners baseball. Luis, of course, pitched in just so many big games for this club and posted. He hardly ever missed a start except for what the end of 2024, I think it was.

Yeah, he got put on the IL for a hamstring strain after the team had been eliminated. So he spent like one day on the IL as a Mariner. Luis Castillo, in my mind, is undoubtedly one of the 50 greatest mariners of all time. I hope he's on that team when they do the 50th celebration in a week. He obviously didn't have a ton of time here in Seattle, so he doesn't have a lot of the counting stats to be in the top tens of a lot of different categories among Mariners pitchers. But when you go beyond the box score, Luis Castillo,

and again, talking about some of the big moments that he pitched, that first playoff game in 21 years dominating the Blue Jays in that game, you know, and everything that happened, you know, from that point forward, what the trade meant, all of that.

Luis Castillo to me is one of the more important mariners in this franchise's history. And again, like I said, I think he should absolutely be on that top 50 list in a week here. So, yeah, thank you, Luis Castillo.

Yeah, I mean, to me, an easy, Mariner Hall of Fame. without any question in my mind, arguably one of the most consequential trades in the history of the franchise. And in the positive light, there have been a lot of consequential trades that went the other direction. But Luis and what he meant for this ball club and just kind of the

attitude that he brought, the big game ability that he brought, I mean, he threw a lot of big games and he was pretty good in all of them, except for maybe one. Like, he was a legitimate big game pitcher who really, you know, shined at his best when the Mariners needed them to be. And even, even as the stuff was deteriorating a little bit, you think about him last year, he pitched some, you got some big outs in that 15 inning game against the Tigers in relief, you know. And so La Piedre of the Rock, he is without question, one of my favorite mariners of all time. And, you know, when, when you do this job, you don't have to do it this way, but I do. You know, I don't care much about the player's personal lives. It's not that I,

I don't wish them well or anything like that. It's just that I don't want to know them that way because I want to be able to critique them and all of that. But there are some guys you just can't help but love. And I love Luis Castillo. He's one of my favorite players of all time. I tweeted it when he first started struggling way back in May. And I meant it. If Luis Castillo was a religion, I would convert.

Like, I love this guy. He's exactly what I want out of a pitcher. Very well loved by everybody in the clubhouse as well. you know, kind of funny, like best friends with Bryce Miller and that's kind of a fun friendship. And he is just a guy who showed up every day. He posted, he got big outs and big moments. And he was The Rock. He really truly lived up to his nickname.

He was just the most, he was just the steadiest guy in this rotation, got a lot of big outs, got a lot of big starts for this franchise. And like you said, you know, I've been of the opinion. I know some people disagree. Some people think the rebuilds been going. on for 30 years. It hasn't. But I'm of the opinion that the Mariners rebuild ended the day they acquired Luis Castillo. And if I remember correctly, the day they acquired Luis Castillo, they were in the middle of getting like absolutely dogwalk by the Houston Astros. I think it was like a 10-0 game. And when we said that out of weed. And I, yeah. And so it was also the birth of one of what ended up

being one of our top 10 favorite moments of the show. The, you don't care about the Modesto nuts rant. That was the Luis Castillo trade. And like Tyson, it was really the episode that really kicked us off and launched us. We'd been at this for about a year at that point, almost a year exactly at that point. And, you know, things were going fine. But that is really the catalyst that kind of, you know, propelled us to where we are. So like, that's the moment that a lot of people, like, who reach out to me and say, like, that's the first time I watched you guys. Yeah.

Yeah. So, like, on a personal level, Louise means a lot to us on a. I don't want to say professional level, but on a professional level, obviously, he means a lot to us as well. And just, you know, I, as a Mariner fan, I can't imagine having a single bad thought about Luis Castillo because this guy was everything you could have ever possibly hoped for while he was here and everything you were thought you were getting when you traded. You took a big risk in that trade. You traded a couple of your top guys. And then you were declaring that like, we are winners. We are out here to win.

And it worked and it worked gangbusters. And regardless of what, you know, Arroyo and Noel V. Marte ended up doing, it didn't matter. The Mariners got their guy. He was huge for them. And again, like I, it, the sucky thing about this is obviously you lose Louise. Now, we'll talk about the return and all that. I like the trade from a purely baseball standpoint, I really like this trade. But from a, you know, human standpoint, from a non-adolitic standpoint, I hate this trade.

just because I love Luis Castillo and what he means. And it sucks that us as fans aren't going to be able to give him kind of a proper sendoff. There's just no mechanism for that right now. But I do hope that he's on the top 50 team. I hope he gets a huge standing ovation for that. And he's not going to, he's not on the schedule for this year unless we face him in the playoffs. But next year he'll come to Team Mobile Park. And I hope that his contributions here are,

greatly appreciated and recognized by the Mariners and by their fans. And I hope that one day we see him in the ballpark, you know, on Luis Castillo Hall of Fame night because he's earned it. And I, again, on a personal level, I'm sad tonight. From a baseball level, I really like the trade. So it is a bit of a conflicting night for me. But at the end of the day, the Mariners made a pretty good move tonight. but I do think it's important that we at least acknowledge that.

Luis Castillo was the man. And we are not anywhere close to the success we are. That's podcasters without Luis Castillo. And this franchise is not anywhere close to the level of success they've had over the last five years without Luis Castillo. And I think that's important to acknowledge. Yeah. 100%.

100%. And I'm so, like, beaten down emotionally by this season that I'm just kind of like neutral. tonight even though like yeah this this sucks on an on an emotional this one got me like I saw this and it it's it's stung and like I said yeah I totally understand it but it stinks it still stings this was a rare occasion too where I refreshed Twitter and I saw it like within the first 30 seconds of past them posting it like got those notifications on baby yeah yeah for once for once in a trade deadline you called me and I was like I already know I already know what's By the way, side note, I don't know if you notice this, Ty.

Every major Jerry Depoto trade happens in the evening, every single one. Belonco, Gino, Naylor, Castillo. Yep, here I am again with the handheld mic in this chair. Every single one. Every single one. Maybe not Justin Turner. That might be the one that broke like middle of the day. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I think in Jimmy, Jimmy Garcia. Yeah, they were like pretty much. Yeah, back to back. But yeah. So, but other, like every Randy Rosarena at night. So Jerry does his best work at night. Randy Rosarena at night. Yeah, that's right.

That's right. But anyways, thanks, Luis. I know you're not listening to the show or watching the show, but just know that you are, you are a mariner and he will be forever. And I really hope that the fan base, you know, agrees and acknowledges that. Yeah. Because you, you deserve it. All right.

Coming up, we're going to talk about what the Mariners. got back in this deal for Luis Castillo. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Errors podcast is brought to you by Amazon. This back to school season spent less on your kids with Amazon. We all know how crazy the back to school shopping experience can be. It starts with a few items on the list. Then suddenly you're shopping for supplies and clothes and lunch gear and tech and about 10 other things you didn't see coming.

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And also thank you for making the Lockdown, the number one sports podcast network. And as always, if you want to hear from me and Colby, even more, and help support the show. We have a Patreon. It's called Control the Zone and all there we talk Mariners, Seahawks, all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com forward slash control the zone link in the description of this episode. So, all right, let's talk about what the Mariners got back for Luis Castillo from the Chicago White Sox. So again, it seems like the White Sox are taking on the remainder of Castillo's $30 million. But to help offset some of that money, the Mariners are taking back a contract from the White Sox in right-handed reliever, Sir Anthony Dominguez, who is owed

about $2.3 million for the rest of this year, another 10.5 mil guaranteed next year and then a $2 million buyout in 2028 with his mutual option. So the Mariners shedding about half of Castillo's money, just quick math on that, give or take a little bit here and there. And Nolan Jones, who's also part of this deal. Making $2 million in arbitration this year. Obviously that's pro-rated. I don't know specifically what the pro-rated number is on that,

but it's not consequential. But there is that as well. And then the mayors are also getting a really interesting catching prospect in Boston Smith. At the tail end of the steel, Boston Smith, sixth round pick

in last year's draft by the Washington Nationals. He's already been traded once he was trained for Chris Mead yeah Curtis Mead who's now been traded to the Boston Red Sox so Yeah

Boston Smith Boston Red So yeah It all works A little bit of a trade tree Starting to begin there Yeah Boston Smith and Curtis made Awesome great baseball name Yeah yeah Boston Smith

Really really solid baseball name So the mayor's got a reliever In this deal They didn't get a right-handed bat though Boston Smith, lefty hitting catcher, and Nolan Jones is a left-handed hitting outfielder. Who probably going to get on tendered this winter by the Mariners? He is minor league depth. He does not matter to the steel at all.

Yeah, he's kind of a weird inclusion just for that reason, because I don't even know if he, like, he might, they might add him to the roster, especially with Luke Rayleigh now on the IL and all that. Yeah, maybe. Like, there's an opening now for a left-handed hitting outfielder on the Marin's roster, Yeah. Nolan Jones, by the way, it was like a three and a half one play in like 2022. But cannon for an arm strikes out a lot, has some pop, decent athlete. He's 4A depth, but you saw a lot of 4A depth in the Mariners lineup tonight.

They could use some more of that. That's not a bad thing. And he's essentially free. So whatever. But obviously the big piece for the 2026 roster would be Sir Anthony Dominguez. That name sounds familiar to you. he is also a very important person in Mariners history. He is the pitcher who served up the Grand Slam to Auneos-Wores in game five of the ALCS.

So there you go. Already a longtime mariner. That's right. Sir Anthony Dominguez, as you mentioned, he's got another year of club control after this year. He's going to be pricey for a reliever, but not a ridiculous price. And again, when you factor in the Luis money that you saved, it's very cheap for a reliever. Dominguez's big calling card is his swing and miss. He gets a lot of strikeouts, which this bullpen definitely needs.

So that is a good sign or a good return there. But he also walks a lot of guys. That is also not great. He was first percentile in walk percentage last year. And this year, the walk percentage has actually gone up slightly, and he is fourth percentile. So he doesn't throw a ton of strikes. But he doesn't get a ton of chase either.

But when he's in the zone, he gets a lot of swing and miss in the zone. So is there a tweak the Mariners can make to help his command or control? Probably not at this stage of his career. He kind of is who he is. But the Mariners need some upside in the bullpen. They need swing and miss in this bullpen in particular. And San Antonio Dominguez is one of the better ones in baseball. It's a very firm fastball, 97 miles an hour on average.

He's got a sweeper that's pretty darn good. his best pitch might actually be a split, which he doesn't throw all that much, but his splitter this year has a 57% whiff rate. So, yeah, that's pretty good, I would say. The four seamers at 25%, not really anything to write home about. The sweeper is about 31%, which is pretty good. Mostly throws a sweeper is his primary secondary pitch, but he prefers to throw up to righties.

The splitty, the splitter, he kind of tends to hold off and uses only against lefties. But when you look at the pitch data on these offerings, the basketball opponents are hitting 207 with a 345 slug. The sweepers, they're hitting 189 with a 334 slug. And the split, they're hitting 11 with a 278 slug. Now, he's only throwing the split 11% of the time. So, again, he's going to throw a bunch of pitches outside the zone. But if he puts it down the middle of the plate, unless your name's A Eugenio Suarez, a pretty good chance you're going to get a swing and a miss out of this.

He has two legit swing and miss pitches, one kind of more for lefties, one kind of more for righties. And yeah, he's just a, he is not a daddy. But I think he's a dog, you know, probably a lowercase D dog. The walk's concern, you. Sure. But Matt Brash has walk issues too. I mean, honestly, Sir Anthony Dominguez, not all that dissimilar for Brash, just Brash's stuff is much filthier.

Or well, they used to be. Except for the big difference. Well, Brash's stuff isn't quite what it used to be since the Tommy John. Let's be honest about it. Dominguez is probably your second best strikeout guy in this bullpen right now after Munoz. So that's what you're paying for. You're paying for big swing and miss.

When you need a strikeout, when any kind of contact kills you, this is probably the guy you're going to. And one other thing to keep in mind here is that he's got that low arm slot, that the Mariners love. 29 degree release point right in line with what the Mariners prefer at their bullpen, basketball sweeper. So, you know,

it is interesting to see how the Mariners, if there are any tweaks or how they deploy him. Keep in mind, he won't be with the team, probably until Tuesday. I tell he's going to be available tomorrow. But, I'm going to get to see Sir Anthony Dominguez's Mariner debut in person.

Make sure you give him a standing O when he comes in because he authored one of the greatest moments in franchise history. So yeah, Dominguez, pretty good get, again, if he was the second best reliever they got at the deadline, I would call that a successful bullpen portion of the deadline. I'm a little worried he might be the best they get, but there is some upside here. So we'll see what happens with the rest of the deadline. But as a primary piece, it makes a lot of sense when you offset Luis's contract. And he does do something that the Mariners really need out of their bullpen, which is get

strikeouts. yeah he wasn't someone that we really talked about as an option here I know there were other people kind of in the mariner space that did talk about us through Anthony Dominguez swap so props to you guys

you guys were on it it's a pretty solid trade and I'm honestly surprised that they were able to get out from about half of Castillo's contract and you know the other thing too with Dominguez is like they might be able to flip Domingas

maybe not in the next couple of days, but maybe sometime next year. This winter, yeah, or I would imagine this winter, because again, the swing and miss is a very real thing. And there are spots where any contact whatsoever kills you and you kind of have to play for the strikeout. And Dominguez is a really good guy to have for those situations. But I would say the most interesting player they got is actually Boston Smith.

Yeah, so what do you got on Boston Smith? Yeah, six-round pitch. last year, like you mentioned, catcher, but he's also played a good amount of left field. He's a good athlete. So there is a little bit of versatility mixed in there. He is very... Remember what we talked about,

like the prototype of marriage we're looking for in the 2026 draft? Where it's just like, hits the ball hard, dead pole power. Like, that's this guy. He is like 99th percentile in air pole percentage, like 99th percentile in barrel. He does not chase. He's very disciplined. hitter. But he swings and misses a lot. There's a little poor man, Las Montes in here.

So he is a catcher, though. He can't play up the middle. And it does seem like he's probably going to be good enough to stay back there. So you kind of have this, like if you want to really dream on dreams, Dalton Varsho, but he's not that guy. He's a backup catcher probably, but he's got plus offense. That's who he is now. That's all I'm going to focus on. He is a athletic catcher who has tremendous power hits the bone. very hard and is a very disciplined hitter. If he could make average contact, like if he could get his contact rates up to average,

he's an everyday catcher. So he's already in AA and he's already performing in double A. So he's actually ahead of Luke Stevenson a little bit here. Now, does this mean Luke Stevenson is available for trades? It might. Does this mean that Boston Smith is available in trades this year? Like over the next 48 hours? Yeah, that's certainly possible.

It is. Right now, I just very quickly, again, learning about this guy kind of on the fly here. But pretty quickly, after a quick glance at his prospects of aunt page and kind of the scouting reports I was able to see, I put him inside my top 20 Mariners prospects. So that's a pretty good get for, again, Luis Castillo. Not only did they move most of the money, they got a piece that in theory helps them in 2026. And they got an interesting prospect out of it. That's kind of crazy. The front office cooked in this trade. Now again, personally, I'm very, I'm devastated.

I love Louise Cassidy. But from a baseball perspective, they cooked. Like, this is a good trade. It makes a lot of sense. Will it work? I don't know. It's 2026 Mariners. Probably not.

But the process is really good. And he gives up like two-hole runs off. Sure. Why not? Why not? I mean, and I would be happy for him if he did. But the Mariners, they get a bullpen arm that they kind of need,

kind of probably more of a six-seventh inning guy. But whatever, that's helpful. And then they get a top 20 prospect. And then they get some upper miners depth that might actually have a role. I doubt he'll be very successful. But again, just to reiterate, Stuart Fairchild, Rob Reff Snyder, Victor Robles, and Weston Wilson are on this team right now. Would I rather take a shot on Nolan Jones than Stewart Fairchild?

Yeah. Yeah. So whatever. There's a good chance that Jones doesn't get a single at bat with the Mariners. And that's fine. he's pretty inconsequential to this trade he's just depth okay yeah it's just when i saw his name i was like that's weird kind of forget that like he was actually like a really good player in colorado i didn't even know he was on the white socks by the way no he started the year in cleveland

that's the thing so so when i saw that i was like yeah yeah nolin jo's kind of a fun yeah yeah kind of a fun like blast from the past year like oh yeah i forgot about that he had one really good year 2020 year but anyways yeah he's pretty inconsequential they get a really good prospect who might be close pretty close to the beach big leagues not this year but next year that's the other that's the other thing too like it's not just interesting prospect it's an interesting prospect who is producing at double a and therefore has like real proximity to the big who's who's been a professional for a year yeah and clearly he's Dalton Varsho baron. It's got Dalton Varsho for Luis Cascio. The Mariners have a player

whose first name is Boston in their farm system pretty good that's a pretty elite name now unfortunately his last name is just Smith. but it's not it's not Utah Jones but it's pretty good it's pretty good did I beat you to the Utah Jones thing no no no but Utah Jones that's a name that that is an 80 great name that's a great name it's a great that is an 80 grade baseball name it is not cool that is the bar jones would have gotten a shout out on today's episode but there you go Utah Jones is the bar which every baseball name is measured against okay there's some other names that I could think of that I won't see on the show but

well i mean like that list is kind of a different type of list but yeah uh all right well before we get out of here and you know obviously we'll have plenty of time to break down this trade and whatever else le baron is do over the next week and a couple weeks honestly we'll probably be talking about this deadline still in in retrospect uh but uh the the question is what's next is there anything next i'm a little worried that there's nothing because now they have traded a starter and they've gotten a reliever.

They haven't gotten the right-handed bat that they wanted, but they did get a reliever, an actual useful reliever as we talked about. However, Adam Jude did say, if I can find it, even after the Luis Castillo deal, the barons are still open to engage in on another potential trade from their rotation, likely George Kirby or Emerson Hancock, first source, can't rule out a move for Randy or Rosarana either.

Now, in between us doing this show and your solo show, Francis Romero, who a couple of years back broke the Randy of Rosarana trade. It's reported today that is, yeah, reported today that it is very unlikely that Randy will get traded. Did you hear that from Randy's camp or did he hear from the Mariners' run office? I'm of the opinion that I would think Romero is right because we talked about this. what are you going to get for a rental randy rosarana that makes it worth trading him right now and like and like even know this and look and i'm sticking by my guns here like i i'm out on the twenty twenty six mariners like i'm still out on oh you mean the walk off fielder's choice to do it for you thank you royce lewis second walk off fielder's choice on a groundball hit

to the first basement against the twins in like a calendar year yeah that i have no idea what Royce Lewis was doing there. But thank you, he's a bro. He's a bro. Yeah. Up there with Sir Anthony Dominguez in terms of Mariners Legends.

Ally, yep. Yeah. But yeah, I'm still out on like, buying in on them and whatever, however you want to put it. But,

you know, you are only a couple games out from first place. Like, you're only, you're three games out of the division and I think two and a half back, of a wildcarts. What's going on with the Astros and Rangers? Did the asteros one tonight, which I think is the preferred

result for the Mariners because you have the tie tiebreaker against them already. Whereas the Rangers, you've already lost it. So focus on getting back in the second place and then worry about getting... So is Randy over the next two months and then maybe the chance of the qualifying offer and draft pick compensation,

who knows if that's actually going to be part of the CBA? But like the chance at that potentially, is that worth more to you than this year's equivalent of Brandon Garcia or Tyler Lockley or whatever. Yeah. So that's what the Mariners have to wait here over the next couple days with Randy. I did point out on the show, though. Every once in a while, you do get a rental who gets traded for.

Pete Crow Armstrong or probably a more like realistic overpay, Joe Ryan for two months of Nelson Cruz. So every once in a while you do get that. And that's why you should listen. That doesn't mean you have to pull the trigger. and I think it's much more likely you're going to get the Josh Naler package, give or take, and I would just rather roll the dice on them getting hot at the right time and maybe getting a draft pick after it's all over. So Jude, though, saying that Kirby or Hancock,

one of those guys getting traded is still a possibility. That's interesting because was it Jude who reported it a couple days ago that they're going to make one starter trade and that's it. Or maybe it was Kramer. But still, it's been reported by the local guys that, like they're going to trade one of these starters, not both, not tool. And where did the local guys get their information from? That's right.

The guy upstairs. That's right. The man upstairs. WWJD. What would Jerry do? Yeah. Yeah. It takes a lot of pressure off of them to find one.

I think I would at this point, I would be pretty surprised if they moved another starter. But I do like that I'm already hearing like, open to still trading Hancock or Kirby. I like that I'm hearing that at least. Well, because again, they haven't gotten that right-handed bat. How are they going to get that right-hand-a-bat? Who is the right-hand-of-bat? Lane-Batt.

So there goes one rental right-handed bat option right there. Front of the show, Ben-Ramary is down in San Diego fan-girling Ramos right now. So maybe he's a possibility. Hopefully not for Emerson Hancock. No, no. Let's be reasonable. all right and i think by trading i think by trading louise you don't have to be like ah we have to trade hancock for the best we can get so you know so ideally here though what this all means is

welcome to seattle kate anderson right but the question is are they going to go to a six-man rotation i don't think is welcome to kate anderson unless they guess you guys i'm just saying that next week in seattle would be a great time to have kate anderson make his major league any reason why tie none that i can think of none that i can now keep in mind i know we're running long for what was supposed to be a 15 20 minute episode um but keep this in mind tomorrow's starting pitcher george curvy yeah if he gets scratched it's on if he makes that start i don't think the odds go down all that much but i think they go down a little bit so yeah obviously they hope he doesn't get hurt, but whatever.

So yeah, we'll see. What if we get a pitcher hug watch? Dan, go out there in the fourth inning and pull them. Does that ever happen? Like a pitcher be pulled like from the middle of the game. Yeah, yeah. I don't think so. I think they just wait for the inning to be over.

Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know. But yeah. So I like that they're at least open to trading another starter though. They should be. I kind of feel like they might be touched. That concerns me because that this is like 2020,

where this, yeah, it's like, this is the seawall deal where it's like, oh, this is fine, but you can't,

you can't just let this be it. This is very much the seawall deal. It's just like everybody's salary got jumped up. Three or four times, whatever Seawald was making and whatever Rojas was making. Boston Smith is the Domcan zone. That's right. That's right.

Nolan Jones is the, uh, is he the Josh Rojas? He's the, yeah, yeah, he has to be. No,

no, I think he has to be the Ryan Bliss because Sir Anthony Dominguez is the guy. they're counting to help right away. And that's there is no Ryan Bliss. I mean like, yeah, not technically, but like for the narrative, Nolan Jones is the Ryan Bliss of this trade. Boston Smith is the Dom Kahn zone.

And Ser Anthony DeVingis is the Josh Rojas. So yeah, this better not be it because either you need to buy more or you need to sell more. I don't really care which direction you go in at this point. But you need to make more moves is kind of the point. But yeah, yeah, we'll see if they get anything done. I am, I'm skeptical, which makes me very worried over the next 48 hours. Yeah. Yeah.

We'll see. We'll see. If something does happen, we'll be back here on the mics talking about it. So hope to see you there. But for now, that is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Locktime Marrists podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Colby Patnode, I'm Tadangazolus.

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