Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - BREAKING: THE SEATTLE MARINERS HAVE RE-SIGNED JOSH NAYLOR!

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

The Seattle Mariners have reportedly re-signed first baseman Josh Naylor to a five-year contract. Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode react to the news and discuss why the deal likely came together so fast, what this means for the rest of the offseason, and what to expect from Naylor over the course of the contract.Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use code LOCKEDONMLB to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.PrizePicks — Run Your Game.Click Link Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONMLBGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. The NBA and NFL seasons are here, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Mariners make a statement by re-signing Josh Naylor earlier than expected. What this means for the rest of the off season and why this deal came together so quickly coming up here on this emergency edition of Locked-on Mariners. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Nailer. It is Sunday, November 16th, 2025. This is Taddenk, Coulby Patnode for the Locktime Marys Podcasts, part of the Locktime Podcast Network.

Now the number one sports podcast network. Jeff Passon of ESPN is reporting tonight that the Mariners of Free Agent First Baseman Josh Naylor come to an agreement on a five-year contract to bring Naylor back into the fold full-time in Seattle after being a part of that run that nearly got the Mariners into their first World Series. in franchise history. MLB Insider, Ari Alexander, is also reporting that the deal is going to fall somewhere between the $90 and $100 million range. So we'll talk a little bit more about that later on. We'll talk about what this means for the Mariners in general, you know, getting this done now this early and what path it puts them on for the rest of the off season. But before we do

that, shout out to our title sponsor tonight, Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, use the promo code locked on MLB. That's L-O-C-K-E-O-N-M-LB for $20 off your first purchase. So the Mariners re-signing Josh Naylor is not something that comes as a, as much of a surprise. I mean, I definitely left the possibility of his market just getting too outrageous and him going elsewhere as a result. Definitely like in the back of my mind, sure. but overall I felt pretty confident at the Marrers and Naylor

were going to be able to get something done together especially with how open the Marers had talked about this and how big of a priority this was for them they were not shy in admitting that that Naylor was by and large at the top of their list heading into the soft season and while this is a very transparent group

they're typically not that transparent when it comes to specific players so that in and of itself kind of tip me off that they felt pretty good about getting something done here but what I am surprised about is that we're having this discussion

on November 16th that is very early especially for someone of Nailer's magnitude to sign I mean he is by far the biggest free agent that has chosen to go somewhere

this winter. Really nothing else of significant note has happened this offseason. I mean, Naylor only officially hit free agency, what, a week and a half ago, something like that. So it's not often you see something like this happen this early. And what that signifies to me ultimately is that Josh Naylor wants to be here, that he went into this offseason with his primary goal being staying in Seattle. and so it seems like the money is going to be reasonable we'll see if the fifth year is guaranteed or not right now it's being reported as a five-year deal but sometimes that can't mean that the last year of that deal

is an option again you know details right now are sparse but he is going to undergo his physical tomorrow and that and then that will make things official and we'll probably hear everything we need to know by tomorrow at some point. Maybe even the Maras will make an official announcement about it. But, yeah, I mean, this was, again, this was priority number one. I think this was, you know, the one player that Maris fans and the Maris content creator sphere and people around the club could all agree upon just had to come back from last year's group.

And the Maras find a way to get it done here. And again, seems like it's on a pretty reasonable deal as well. So what's your thoughts? initial reaction here, Colby? It is surprising. Not so much that Naylor is here and not the contract that he is kind of being reported to get. Only really one report. We'll see. But none of that is that surprising. I think we knew that the Mariners were the favorite to get Josh Naylor. I think we knew that he was going to get between four and five years and probably around 20 million AAV. And that's kind of looking

like where it's going to land. Some of this is that surprising. but it's November 16th. Like none of the free agent bats have signed yet. I mean, heck, free agency has only been going on for what, like 10 days, technically. And Naylor's already signed here. He didn't wait out the Pete Alonzo market.

He didn't wait out the Alex Bregman market. You know, he wanted to be here very clearly. That's what this tells you. He wanted to be here. This was his destination of choice. He was the Mariners priority. And, you know, good on the Mariners for not being like, well let's see how the market works and we'll get back to you and you know we don't want to give

you a fifth year guaranteed but maybe if we have to we will we don't know again if that if the fifth year is guaranteed or not but the fact that this got done so quickly uh with you know no other dominoes falling that would favor josh nailer if peter lanzo signed with the red socks or whatever naler probably would have gotten more money than he ended up getting from Seattle. It's just probably the reality of it because the Mets were going to be lingering and there was probably a bigger payday there. And Naylor didn't want it or didn't think so or whatever, but regardless, he chose to be here. And I think that signifies a lot about who Josh Naylor is as a person. I think it says a lot about, you know, the vibes of the Mariners,

so to speak, and where this team is going that he clearly likes the direction they're going in. And this is going to be his big contract. Now, he's going to be a free agent. and again at like 33. So he'll probably get one more pretty good contract. But this was the big one that he was going to sign. And ultimately we'll see where it lands. But he chose to be here. This is where he wants to spend the prime of his career.

And he's going to be the Mariners first baseman for a long, long time. These are all very good things. And they all speak volumes about where the Mariners are right now. And there's bigger picture things here that I'm sure we'll get to later on in the show. But Josh Naylor was, you know, a trend breaker in a lot of ways. He was a lefty who came here and hit that T-Mobile Park right away. There was no adjustment here. He just hit right away.

He was actually the first rental bat, big name rental bat that Jerry and Justin went out and got in their entire tenure here. They went out and they got him. And now they're paying him. They're going to pay him more than any other free agent bat they paid in their time in Seattle by a significant margin. and his one-year AAV will almost, you know, beat the previous record of Mitch Garber's entire contract. So, you know, it is, in a year where Josh Nehler's proven to be a kind of a trend breaker, stole, what, did it get to 30 bases?

He stole bases? Yeah, he did. As the second slowest runner in baseball, you know, his defense went from, it's not great to one of the best defensive players, first baseman in baseball. since he joined the Mariners like he has broken trends all along the way and this time he breaks another one signing incredibly early before any dominoes have fallen that would benefit him greatly and good on him for knowing what he wants and getting it done and good on the Mariners for you know for when you say you're a priority right when you've publicly said this guy's a priority we feel

like we have to have him back we need him he is the key to the off season you can't say that And then also be like, you know, we want to go three years, not five. Could we maybe middle of four? Right. Like, no, you say, what is it going to take? This is the number. We're doing it. Boom.

And you meet their number and you get this thing done quickly. And oh, by the way, this opens up a lot for the rest of the off season because now you know you have Naylor in your back pocket. You know what the number is going to be. Yeah. You know how this is going to impact your budget. You know that you don't have to pivot to other first base options. You don't have to save money because Naylor is still.

sitting out there and you think you might have a shot to sign them in January or February, it's all great. It is all fantastic. The timing is surprisingly, no doubt, but it is ideal for the Mariners to get this done as early as possible. And again, I think this says a lot about Josh Nader wanting to be here and wanting to spend his prime of his career in Seattle, playing for this team and playing with Cal Rale and playing with Julio Rodriguez and, you know, whoever else is along for the ride. I think this is a statement being made by Josh Naler, and I think it's also statement being made by the Seattle Mariners, and both of those statements are pretty cool. You know, I would also say this on, you know, that's coming together so quickly.

I mean, Josh Naylor is no nonsense dude. So in a way, it kind of also makes sense that he's just like, yeah, this is where I want to be. Let's just get this over with now. Like, yeah, this is kind of what I want. Be willing to make that offer? You are? All right, cool. Let's just get it done with.

I got better stuff to do this winter. yeah Josh doesn't strike me as a guy who likes the drama of waiting out for agency which is why I never really thought that he was a great fit for the Mets like that drama in that city that does not scream Josh Naylor the vibe of Seattle screams Josh Naylor let's be for perfectly clear so in many ways it is the match you know made in heaven and thankfully they got it done all right so you talked about this a little while ago you know what this does for the rest of the off season for the Marrers now having

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Josh Naylor locked up to a long-term contract. What do we do now? This was supposed to be like the big talking point of the off season. Now it's over. It's done. He's coming back to Seattle. So what now, Colley? What does this do for the Marys for the rest of

offseason i mean now we rest and watch a grateful whatever thanos's line was yeah so uh for us i don't know uh because this was kind of like the the big one and in any hope that like maybe this breaks open a log jam a little bit and there's so obviously things to go get done the mariners retained a player they didn't um i mean they added a player but not really it's a or they already had, but semantics either way. They had three spots in the middle of their lineup open up a couple days ago, and they filled one, but there's still two big spots left to go. Right now, you're starting second baseman and starting third baseman

in a year you hope to win the World Series are Ben Williamson and Cole Young. Your starting right field is Victor Robles and Dominic Canzone. We don't know who the DH is going to be. And you still have major questions in the bullpen. And that's not counting all the health scares that happen with your starting pitching. And we won't even know that's going to be a factor until next year. So there's still plenty to go get done. There are lots of things to do this offseason.

And you can't just add Josh Naylor and be like, well, we like Williamson and we like Cole Young. So we're done like this. This was it. No, you are not better if this is the only move you make. And the whole point of the off season is to get better. So the Mariners still have work to do. Make no mistake about it. But this was the big one.

This was number one on the priority list of just about everybody. And again, they know how much he's going to make in year one. They know what this does does this does to their budget? They know, does this mean we now maybe can keep Luis Castillo? Or does this mean maybe now we need to move Luis Castillo even more than we thought we did? Like there are other decisions that will be made based off of this signing, but the Mariners can't be done. And I highly doubt they are. Like, this is a good first step.

it was a necessary step it sets up everything else you could want to do this offseason that you don't have to have this lingering over your head where it's like do we want to give you know this second baseman an extra three million dollars what do we need that for josh naylor blah blah blah the the mental gymnastics that gms do when their number one priority is still sitting out there um you know we saw this team last winter for better or worse their like main plan was to go get Carlos Santana and when he didn't sign with you they panicked and they did not have a good pivot you know this this is already a better off season than last off season oh yeah absolutely so it's like what 12 days right it's wild to think you know that last year the mariner sat and they waited for

one player before they could do anything in the off season and then those players every time they did that they went somewhere else leaving the mariner sitting there without a chair and this off season they've gotten rid of that they're like look we've got our guy. This is the one we needed right here. Now we have options. Now we can explore and now we have this freedom of knowing that we have our number one target in our back pocket. Now we can be a little more aggressive. We could be a little bit more savvy with our money. And again, we don't know what the AAB is going to shake out. We don't know if this is going to be a backloaded contract or anything like that. And we don't really know, honestly, what the Mariners payroll situation is.

we know what they tell us it is but we don't know what the actual number is i'm going to say something crazy right now i'm going to get i'm begging you not to say this you know what i'm going to say don't you i feel like i know but go ahead i'm going to get clipped i'm going to get clipped i'm going to get dunked on in two months who cares whatever i'm going to get dunked on anyway for anything but before that people are going to be like you guys won't believe what this mariner insider said what does he know hi that's me i'm the person who's going to be the what does he know guy right um this is not based off of anything that i've heard this is just me like connecting the dots of like how how things have been reported on and how the messaging has come across from you know jerry

and justin et cetera over the last couple weeks i think the bears have more money than we think they do like the front office has more money to spend than we think they do I think they have more than the 166. I think they're willing to go beyond that point this offseason. Whoa, some random account on Twitter to tweet it at Tidea Gonzalez says the Mariners are spending $190 million this year. That's insane. I mean, God bless that account, I guess. But yeah, it really is a statement of you, of yours.

Yeah, the Mariners are going to spend more. than they publicly said they would. Like, okay. I don't know. There's, there's like little things that I'm noticing here. Well, like,

first and foremost, they were like, like Hollander was like, yeah, we would love to bring back Nailer and Polo and Gino. Now I'm sure like that means like at their price, especially like on Gino. But like,

and then he's like, you know, and then we want to, you know, add to the bullpen as well. It's like, you do realize how much that, it costs, right? In theory, like, doing all of that.

We've talked about this, right? If the Mariners aren't going to trade Luis Castillo and shed most of that salary, it was going to be very difficult for them to do anything other than bring back two of these three guys. And so another reason why I say this is also like, it doesn't seem like they have any interest in trading Randy. And I really don't know if they're actually going to be able to trade louise like you and i spent a long time trying to find a louise trade that made sense in our offseason plan now that doesn't mean anything really in the grand scheme of things like the mayors could find a trade that you and i didn't even consider louise castillo this winter but it is very difficult to find that fit

and so i'm not sure if like even if they want to trade louise that they'll find a deal that winds up making sense for them and saves them enough money to the point where like they wind up being a better team on the on the other end of it so I don't know just like the the ambitions that they say that they have packaged with the other levers that they would have to pull in order to make those things happen under the 166 million umbrella, like how unlikely those things kind of feel to me. I don't know. Kind of feel like they might have more money. Maybe it's cope. Clip this. Don't call me in two months. I don't

care. Yeah. I mean, maybe they do. I kind of refuse to believe they do until they actually spend it. But obviously, this is a big, you know, first step. And like we've talked about, you know, it's hard for us to imagine them getting Naylor done. and polo and still have enough to go out and get somebody else who's making a sizable chunk of money. I mean, you could always go out and trade for a Gregory Santos pre-arb reliever and take your chances there. And maybe you have enough to go get, you know, a three, four million Arb one guy. Maybe you can do something like that.

But you can't do the big, you know, splashy things without preying up salary if your budget is really 165-ish. so well and so yeah and so that like we're still like not a hundred percent sure on where they actually are like pre nailer deal but there's somewhere in the 130 to 135 range so let's say this nailer deal comes out to again r alexander is reporting that it's between 90 and 100 million dollars so let's just split the difference let's just call it 95 right so that's a 19 million dollar uh annual salary well that's already a significant chunk of what you have left because if you're out between 130 to 135 you either have 30 to 35 million dollars to spend so like how how do

they expect to be able to address all these other needs if they're not going to trade louise or or randy you know what i mean so i don't know and again like i don't think they want to trade randy I don't think they have any interest in trading Randy. Maybe I'm wrong on that. But I don't think they want to do that. I don't think that's something they're actually entertaining. And then the Castillo deal, like, maybe, maybe they, I mean, obviously they would know more than we do. But like, that just doesn't seem like a slam dunk to actually happen.

So I don't know. I don't know. I'm doing the Brian Winhorse thing. just like, you know, what, what's going on in Seattle? So what can we expect from Josh Naylor in his first full season in Seattle? And how might this contract age? Talk about that in just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of the Lockdown Airs podcast, it's brought to you by game time.

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your team every day. As always, if you want to hear from me and Colby even more and help support the show, we have a Patreon. It's called Control the Zone. And on there, we talk Marys, Seahawks, all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com forward slash control the zone. Link in the description of this episode. So we got two months and change of experience of what it's like to have Josh Naylor on your favorite baseball team. And it was amazing. It was a huge part of this, uh, this ride, uh, that we all went along. Uh, one of the best rides in the history of Seattle Marr's baseball. And Naylor was right at the core of that. Um, was a huge part of the postseason run, which is a huge part of the run to winning the division and, and all that. Uh,

and we saw him do some things that, uh, We didn't even know we're possible from Josh Naylor, specifically all the stolen bases. He steals 30 bags, including what, 21 in a Mariners uniform or 20 in a mariner's uniform, whatever it was. He stole a lot of bases as a Seattle mariner, despite ranking in the, what, second percentile in sprint speed in all of baseball. He was incredibly clutch, had so many big hits that we can point to. getting in the postseason he had like a billion three hit games he's awesome and he also just brought an attitude to this club that they just really didn't have it was cool to see how that missing element kind of just fits so perfectly into the structure of things in that marriage

clubhouse but i'm curious what you think nailer is going to look like over the course of contract, specifically to start it, I mean, like, I think it's safe to say he's probably not going to steal 30 bags again, but what do you think from this year is sustainable, not sustainable? Who is Josh Naylor really? Like, who are the mayor is actually acquiring right now? I think we have a really clear idea on who Josh Naylor is. He is the guy who doesn't give you traditional first base power, with the exception of one year, where he went for power and it affected his batting average and is on base. I feel like we know who Josh Naylor is.

And Naylor is a guy. He's going to be, you know, probably hit between 270 and 290, good on base skills, probably 20-ish home runs, 30 doubles, something like that. He's going to be a good base runner. I don't know if he's going to steal 30 bags again, but he's a smart base runner. He understands the game very well. He's a heady player. He's going to be aggressive at the plate. He will take walks, but he wants to hit.

He's not going to strike. strike out. You remember when he first got here in like the first four games he was running like a 30% strike out right? And everybody was like, oh my God, he's going to strike out. Everybody comes to the marriage and strikes out. Well, go look at where that finished. It finished right in line with his career norms. So he's going to walk enough. He's not going to strike out. He's going to make a ton of contact. He's going to hit doubles. He's going to hit homers. He's going to steal some bags. He's going to be a smart base runner. He's going to be a quality defender at first base, maybe even plus because for some reason, And he got significantly better in Seattle defensively than he had been anywhere else in his career.

And he's going to age fine, like especially for the first couple of years here. He's 28 years old. Like he's not 32, 33 like Polo or like Gino. So there's no reason to suspect his bad is going to slow down. You know, there's going to be, he's going to against tough lefties, you probably move him down the lineup. There are some platoon issues that you have to deal with. But this guy who we kind of know who he is because he's been the same. guy basically for the last six years. He's going to hit for average. He's going to hit about

20 homers. And he's going to be an above average, you know, 20% above league average hitter. And, you know, he's not going to strike out. He's going to take his fair share of walks. And he seems to have a flare for the dramatics and hitting, you know, getting big hits and big situations. So I feel really comfortable with Josh aging well into this contract. And again, even if the last year is bad, which there's really no reason to suspect it might be since he'll only be 33 years old, 32 years old, even if that is bad, who cares? You pay for the front half of the contract. That's what free agency is. You pay for the first half. The second half is the discount you got. Now you have to pay it back to them. So, yeah, five years for a 28-year-old

first baseman, who doesn't rely on speed or athleticism to make his game work, that's going age just fine. I hope that it's just the Josh nail that we've seen. I don't want him to sell out for more power. I don't want him to try and hit 30 home runs again. I want him to be the guy who it's 280 with 20 homers and 30 doubles. And I don't know, maybe 10 to 15 bags is more realistic and just play good defense and just be a three-win player. And that's something you can do if you're Josh Naylor. And I want him to do that and just

length of the lineup and make a ton of contact, hard contact. And I want that attitude. I want that, that, you know, big grumper vibe in the clubhouse because sometimes you need that to counter the ultra positivity of Julio Rodriguez and, you know, J.P. Crawford and the like. So I just want him to be who he was last year. And I feel really confident that he will be that guy because that's who he's kind

of always been. Well, the other thing, too, he was dealing with a very serious shoulder injury all of this year, even back, you know, when he was still in Arizona, but especially after he got to Seattle, he aggravated it a couple of times. He aggravated it during the ALCS and was playing through it. You know, I don't know what the recovery on that whole situation is and what exactly that situation is to begin with, but like, you would think he's, he should be feeling at least a little bit better by the time we start playing ball again and like what could have fully healthy josh nailer what could that look like right it's also pretty exciting to think about so um yeah man

this is this is so cool i mean because like obviously you know losing game seven hurt for obvious reasons but also like the um the added element of man this could be the last time we see Josh Naylor in a mirror's uniform. Man, this could be the last time we see Jorge Polanco in a mayor's uniform. Like that made things sting even worse and the fact that that feeling, at least on the nailer front, isn't going to be allowed to linger really at all? It's really cool. I think the most important part of tonight is the message that's being sent by this team to not

only the fans, but also to the clubhouse that we believe in you. We think you are worth investing in. We think we're close. And we don't want to, you know, drag our feet on this. And we don't want to, you know, well, we're just always going to chase value. So we wait three weeks. We might get them for a fourth year instead of a fifth year and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, no, let's not screw around. Let's get this done. Let's show people we're serious. And again, It's one lesson when you go out there and you try to pitch yourself to other free agents, it's, oh, we have Julio, we have Cal Raleigh. And look, we've added Josh Naylor and look at our pitching staff and look at our bullpen. It's just another thing that you can go out there and you can sell.

You can sell Josh Naylor to your fan base, to your clubhouse, to other free agents, to the rest of baseball. Like last year was not the fluke. It was the beginning of something, not the end of something. And by getting this done when they did by being as aggressive about their contract offer as they, have been with anybody, I think that sends a statement loud and clear to us, to the people of Seattle and to the Pacific Northwest, to the world of baseball, and most importantly, to the 26 guys in the clubhouse, one of whom is going to be Josh Naylor. And I think that is something that can't be understated here. You still need to follow it up. Like, this is great. It sends a message.

But if this is all you do, the message goes away. It changes. So it's a great first step. question about it it's the biggest step of any journey the most important step is the first one and josh neither was the first step and they got it done early they got it out of the way and again that is something that this fan base needed to see this clubhouse needed to see and it doesn't happen by the way if josh doesn't want it to happen so kudos to jerry and justin for not messing around but also you know awesome that that Josh you know seemingly came to them and was like I want this to be done let's figure this out I don't want this to linger on all winter and and I think that speaks a lot to you know what the mariners have what they're building in that clubhouse and

where they're at in the grand scheme of the baseball world and I think all this just confirms that and should leave people very excited not only for the rest of this winter but hopefully for the 2026 season but that's still going to rely that's still going to depend on ownership and that's still going to depend on what jerry and justin do next but it's a terrific first step there's no question about that but that is going

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