Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Can Mariners Stay Hot in San Diego? (feat. Javier Reyes of Locked On Padres)

Episode Date: July 4, 2022

Fresh off a fourth consecutive series victory, the Seattle Mariners head down to San Diego for a quick two-game set with the Padres. Ty is joined by Locked On Padres host Javier Reyes to discuss the s...eries, how the Padres have found success without Fernando Tatís Jr., what exactly happened during the Mariners-Angels brawl and more.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11 | @InsideMarinersFor more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 With four consecutive series wins in the bag, the Mariners are down in San Diego for a quick two-game set with a very good Padres team. Javier Reyes of Lockdown Padres and I are going to talk all about it. Ready, Hobby? I'm always ready, man. Let's do it. Let's go. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast.
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Starting point is 00:00:50 My name is Tidei Gonzalez, host of Lockdown Mariners podcast. Join by the host of the Lockdown Padres podcast, Javier Reyes. You can follow our shows on Twitter at L.O. Mariners and L-O-U-U-U-U-S-R-Ras and follow us on our personal accounts at Dan Gonzalez, the C-A-N-E, G-N-Z-Z-L-Z, and Hobby at Hobby Peno. And if this is your first time joining us here on the Locked-on Mariners or Locked-on Padres podcast, welcome to the show. If you like what you hear, give us a follow or subscribe wherever you listen to this.
Starting point is 00:01:18 And if you're watching us on YouTube, hit the subscribe button, turn on the notification bell and give this video a thumbs up. We greatly appreciate it. So, Hobby, our two teams are finally colliding. It's the Vetter Cup. The annual Vetter Cup is underway. This rivalry that for some reason is always constantly forced, and I feel nothing when I think about the Padres, quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Just going to be honest with you about it. I don't feel a single thing towards the Padres whatsoever. But it is technically a rivalry that happens every single year. We do these two games sets every single year. And the first one is coming up here in San Diego, starting a day. and we're going to see Chris Flexen versus Sean Minia, then we're going to see Logan Gilbert versus Mike Clevenger. So a couple of interesting pitching matchups over the next couple days,
Starting point is 00:02:08 and of course the Mariners are heading into the series. A little light-handed, quite frankly. Jesse Winker is going to be starting his six-game suspension today. J.B. Crawford is returning, though, from his four-game suspension for their part. and the infamous brawl with the angels. I'm not sure if you heard about it, hobby.
Starting point is 00:02:30 My gosh. I mean, just what time that was, especially if you're not Mariners or Angels fan, I'm just enjoying it from the background. I'm like, what,
Starting point is 00:02:37 what happened? Baseball's the last sanctuary, the last sanctuary of good fights. You know what I mean? Because they can't really happen in football. They certainly can't happen in the NBA. There's a lot of like hold me back.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And baseball, it's just really dumb. And I think that we kind of have to enjoy it sometimes. Unfortunately, though, Mary's got maybe a little hosed and all that. I don't know just because like I get maybe being mad that trout was almost hit and you should stand up for him. But like, but hobby,
Starting point is 00:03:07 hobby, hobby, hobby, hobby, hobby. It was a five three game with the, and he represented the tying run in the ninth inning. And that was not intentional. It's not intentional. There was no beef. I'm going to get on a rant here. I'm going to keep this quick.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I mean, my list is probably want to hear your perspective too. go for it. All right, all right. Well, I'll keep this quick, though, because I do want to ask you about the Padres and everything going on with them. But, so it was a 5-30 game on Saturday. There was no beef before that between the Angels and the Mariners. And by the way, a week beforehand, Michael Lorenzen hit Justin Upton in the head with a fastball. And we didn't even think twice about it. No one caused a stir. Scott Service and the Mariners dugout didn't stare down the Angels dugout or anything. And I'm sure you've seen the John Boy video by now where. Phil Nevin and the Angels dugout stared at them as they walked off the field and all these things. Started yelling out at them, all this stuff, whatever. And so, yeah, so Swanson didn't have a good fastball that night. He missed badly to the hitter before on McKinnon, I believe.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I think he had like four fastballs that are way high out of the zone. And the scouting report says that against Mike Trout, if you want any sort of chance against Mike Trout, who has absolutely destroyed the Seattle Mariners this season, as he does all the time, you're supposed to throw inside on him. And so Swanson threw up and into him. And the ball just kind of slipped out of his hands and got up and in. It didn't hit him. Didn't hit him.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It wasn't intentional. And he came back and he walked the guy. And that just seemed to be it. But they carried this beef. And really, at the end of the day, I don't, like, obviously I blend the angels for manufacturing some beef. And look, they've been going through a pretty tough time. They have two general relational talents on their team.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And yet again, they're. under 500 and they're with an interim manager and they're trying to create a spark. I get why they're doing it and I feel like this was more a matter of the, you know, the angels just wanting to create a spark rather than anything to do with the Mariners. Like I think it just, you know, the Mariners just so happened to be in the wrong place of the wrong time more or less. And they ended up being kind of the victim of the angels insecurity here. But, you know, I ultimately blame this on the umpires.
Starting point is 00:05:23 because Andrew wants you know they suddenly take Suarez or they they swares was supposed to start the game for the Angels they take Swares out they bring Wants in as a glorified hit man he throws at Julio he throws above Julio's head on the first pitch of the second out of the game and that should have been it right there because even people that reported for the Angels and reported for the Mariners entered that day saying like everyone at the ballpark is talking about what might happen today and everyone's going to be talking about it. And it just seems like this is going to be something that ends up going down. And so we get to it and like the umpires should have known. And it should have been over and done with there. Wants should have been thrown out. Nevin should have been thrown out and it would have been over. And then the next sitting and really like I'm sure you can understand.
Starting point is 00:06:14 If you are going to respond in some sort of way, you get one shot. And that was their one shot. They threw it at Julio's head. Should have been over. Should have been done with. All right. Cool. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:22 You got your anger out. Cool. Let's move on. Then, but then they throw a Jesse Winker the next inning. And Winker, even after that, was going to go to first. But the umpire still did not throw out once. He did not eject him. He was more concerned about calming Winker down, who was calm down.
Starting point is 00:06:42 He was going to go to first. Then Anthony Rondon starts talking. And at a certain point, man, you got to just take matters into your own hands. And, you know, things happen the way that they did. I'm not saying that the Mariners are. above criticism. I don't think that Winker should have went and tried to take on the entire Angels bench. It was great. Very, very Amir Garrett-esque, you know, and, you know, and I don't think that, you know, J.P. Crawford should have hopped over the top and started throwing haymakers, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:07 but he was also defending his guy who was getting into it with like 30 other dudes. And, you know, and I also, I don't condone Jesse Winker for flipping off the crowd. You know, to me, that's funny. But, like, also, you know, you shouldn't have done it. You know, you shouldn't have done it. I think we can all recognize that. But yeah, dude, just being an objective, like, being just an objective baseball fan here, and I've said this many times on this show since the brawl happened, and it's like, that was completely the Angels thing. Like, yeah, the Mariners responded.
Starting point is 00:07:35 They're, like, at fault for some things, but, like, that was completely just manufactured by the Angels out of nowhere, out of nothing, literally pixie dust. Like, it doesn't make sense. Yeah. That was really well said. I mean, I'm used to, my team hasn't really been involved in fights. The only thing that was kind of close to, it was the time. Tatis 3-0 or when it was between our own players and our own dugout fighting each other.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So other than that, really, it's kind of like fun for me to see teams fighting because I haven't seen that in a while, to be honest with you. It feels like we're due, like at some point. Yeah. But I think that the Padres are just kind of like in this position right now where because they were talking so much last year and because they had such a huge collapse from being great, by the way. It's not like they were mediocre from the start.
Starting point is 00:08:20 They were amazing. and then they have the big second half collapse. And they're kind of like toning it down a little bit. I think they're like, you know, we're the last team that's allowed to like, you know, as you were saying, like manufacture some sort of hype and whatnot and being very good driving of all that. But I mean, we're heading to this Marinus series, man. And I mean, I for one, yeah, like definitely Jesse Winker should be suspended for the series, right?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Like, absolutely. I actually think Julio Rodriguez should be too. And you know what? Why not? I think that, I think what's his face? I think that Eugenio Suarez, who's, who's, been kind of a pretty low key been by I think by relative to where that trade was expected. Eugenio Suarez has been kind of the better in terms of succeeding expectations.
Starting point is 00:09:03 The guy like 1-860 last year, whatever that again. I have him in my super deep fantasy league right now. He's been awesome. So yeah, I think that all the Mariners line up, maybe just for two days because I think just an honor of the sacrifice that the angels made, I think, for the Padres sake. I think that that would be really great. Javi, I'll tell you this. Even with all those guys in the lineup,
Starting point is 00:09:25 you still have a pretty good chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Mariners have struggled a little bit this year. It's, yes, particularly on the offensive side of things. I mean, even today, as we're recording this, for transparency's sake, we're recording this on Sunday. The Mariners went up against a bad A's team,
Starting point is 00:09:43 one of the worst teams of baseball, if not the worst team in baseball. Frankie Montes had to leave after the first inning. And the only offense came from Holi, Rodriguez and that was two runs and that's it. So this team, this lineup is not in a great place. You know, they're starting the shell of Justin Upton almost every single day. That's fun. That's a great place to be. Carlos Santana has just come out of nowhere. That's interesting. So we got, you know, 36 year old Carlos Santana, 34 year old Justin Upton.
Starting point is 00:10:13 We got Dylan Moore who should probably be in AAA. We got Sam Haggity who also should probably be in AAA. yeah so it's a great time absolutely vibing right now adam fraser's like play into his like fifth percentile basically been second half adam fraser as i'm sure you're very familiar oh i'm very aware of the adam fraser thing he was he was close to being as maligned as the padre's first baseman who for the listeners of lockdown mariners full transparency again i do not say the name of the guy who plays first base for the padres and it actually worked
Starting point is 00:10:47 for a good month of the season um and i just do not say name. I call him the groundball, gremlin, etc. On audio-related video podcast stuff, I cannot say his name that is part of the rule. And in fairness, the rule has been working so far. Understandable. Yes, I took a quick peek at fan graphs and I knew that
Starting point is 00:11:05 this first baseman who shall not be named was up to a pretty good. He was off to a good start. I mean, you know, technically this is going out on your channel as well. So we'll be safe here and we will not mention him. We will not mention him. But he, you know, he's got a WRC plus over 100.
Starting point is 00:11:23 He's technically a league average hitter this year. That's, hey, how about that? Great. How about that? Great. All right. So I have a question for you about the Padres, which I still haven't even gotten, gotten a chance to ask, but real quick, we got a little sideback.
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Starting point is 00:13:12 Thank you again for making us your first listen of the day. before we got entirely sidetracked by Brawl Talk. I wanted to ask you, you know, because your Padres, they're, they're doing pretty well right now. They're 47 and 34. They're second place in the, in the NL West. They're in a wild card spot right now. That's nice. And they're doing this all without Fernando Tatis.
Starting point is 00:13:35 So how are they doing this without Fernando Tatis? How have they been able to get to this point, especially after the disappointment of last season? Yeah, I think it's been a combination of a few things. I think it's been good situational hitting. It's been guys that have stepped up like your, what's it called, Hassan Kim, who's playing really great defense and has at least been kind of an average major league hitter on top of the good defense. And then probably, you know, even Omar Mizarra, who they had to call up,
Starting point is 00:14:02 who was kind of raking in AAA, kind of a formerly highly touted guy. And he's been okay for them so far, you know what I was saying? And then Jorge Alfaro, who had like the highest swinging strike percentage in major league baseball history is coming out here and he's been a pretty good offensive catcher, especially as the second guy technically on the team. And I'm all of a sudden forgetting who is on the Padre. So give me one second. Who am I blinking on right now?
Starting point is 00:14:27 That's been pretty good for them. By the way, I got a, I got a question for you real quick about Alfaro. Okay, so looking, like before the season started, I was looking at like, you know, Fangraphs has like the death charts, you know, for like all the teams. And it had Horace Al Faro as a starting left. builder are they actually playing horre al faro and left field no i don't think they've done that once that is a marlins
Starting point is 00:14:51 being marlins thing that was a fake news positional versatility uh on behalf of the marlins that was just deciding to put someone left does not mean that they could play left that was wow that was that was that was something but yeah and then it's him and then i of course how can i get profite my boy jerks and pro far who i don't know why i say his name that way but i do and he's been a delight he's been in a lot of ways why i think that Padres fans and the team itself which that uh, Trent Christian was going to be. It's a guy who doesn't strike out too much. He walks his walk to strike out ratio among outfielders is kind of up there like in terms of, uh, in the good way. He's been good. He's hitting for more power this year. More home runs already
Starting point is 00:15:34 than all of last year. He crossed that having good at bats and he's playing a decent left field and considering that Tommy fam last year was really bad defensively. Forget the offense. He was bad there too, but considering he was really bad defensively, this is probably something that myself included looked over a little bit, just the fact that you would be going from a poor defender to at least an average one. And he's been above average, right? So that's been a really big thing for the team. Jake Kernworth really slow start to the year, but it's been much, much turning it up lately, which has been great. And then Machado performing like an MVP. I mean, he's probably one of the front runners right now. He's been awesome. Good situational hitting.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Luke Voight, who I can increasingly been begging him to murder me in more explicit and crazy ways on Twitter. He's been ramping it up. His OPS was good last month, like 800 or something like that. He's been hitting for a lot of power. And, you know, the starting pitching has been fantastic, right? They just got a really lot of depth in that starting rotation with Cotton Eye, Joe Musgrove. He's been awesome.
Starting point is 00:16:35 You've got Sean Mania, who gives you a lot of innings, the consistency, the strikeouts. And then you've got McKenzie Gore, who's one of the National League of the Year contenders. And then you've got Blake Snell. And then you've got you Darvish, who while his strikeout rate is low, he has been going longer into games, which is good. I mean, he's been a pretty good pitcher. So it's really a lot of depth when it comes to starting pitching that they kind of can just go out there and be like, you know, as long as we score three, four runs, we feel like we have a good shot at this. And that's kind of been the winning scenario, especially with Machado playing otherworldly right now. Although they did just get their butts kicked by the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:17:13 In fairness, before people freak out, it is the Dodgers, and I'm not really, I just think that for a regular season thing, I'm not expecting the Padres to always compete against them. I'm not all that concerned about that in the grand scheme of things, because let's be honest, it's not like the Dodgers are immune to losing in the playoffs. So we'll figure out that when that gets there. But in our independence day, we did not go quietly into the night. We did not vanish without a fight, my friend. right we did take that last game thanks to luke foy and a hostile kid home run but that's kind of the big breakdown of the of the pardres man that's it's been it's been good all things considered and how much bad mojo especially from the tattice injury the collapse the fact that their roster is really weirdly constructed they can't really necessarily just go out and spend you know what i mean they don't have as much flexibility with their roster they've been sensational all things considered yeah it's uh it's pretty incredible you know for all the reasons that you mentioned and also you know again coming off of the disappointment that was last year and being without Tatis. It's just, yeah, it's pretty surprising to see that, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:20 we're nearing the All-Star break here. We're nearing the halfway point. We're basically, actually, today is going to be the halfway point, at least for the Mariners, going to be 81 games. And the Padres are doing what they're doing right now. And so it's really exciting, especially it's really exciting for when Tatis gets back in the fold eventually. When do you think that will be? that's the question right i mean tatees it's it sounded like because it's like a couple weeks ago when
Starting point is 00:18:48 he's getting his scans and whatnot he had not really progressed the way that the team had hoped um i'm also the big kind of elephant in the room is that he still got this shoulder injury that kept him out kind of sporadically last season and this is a separate risk thing from motorcycle incident that everybody has been talking about right and for good reason by the way i'm not blaming everybody but so it's kind of one of those things where I didn't like the way everyone was kind of just plugging him in, right? They were like, all right, he's out for three months and we'll have him by, maybe by the All-Star break. I don't know, man. Like I'm hoping that he comes back, but you got to be really careful with this guy, especially with his already checkered injury history.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So we're going to have to see what happens and we're going to have to see where he plays, right? That's going to be an interesting thing. Does he play right field like he did last year because they like Kim's defense, which is totally fair and maybe give Tatis a little bit of a breather. Do they put him at the age? It's going to be really interesting. Obviously, I want him back. And obviously, when he gets back, he's in the lineup immediately. He's just that skill of the player. But until then, man, I don't know. I'm hoping that he comes back, but it's also, I think people need to stop plugging it in. This isn't someone who just spraying their ankle and they have to be out a week and a half. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:20:03 yeah, you'll be back. But, you know, we'll have to say. Well, and that's the thing that's going on with the Mariners right now right is like Kyle Lewis has been out you know for a considerable amount of time he came back for four games after undergoing knee surgery and then was concussion he was awesome for four yeah he was awesome for four games hit a couple home runs including one off of Verlander by the way Kyle Lewis owns Justin Verlander just want to get that out there uh now Jason so just Justin Verlander is his son any who but yeah like you know he's now you know been dealing with a serious concussion on top of that they've been without Mitch Hanager since the end of April
Starting point is 00:20:39 with a high ankle sprain. He's not supposed to be coming back until at least the all star break. Ty France has been on the aisle for the last, you know, a couple weeks with a grade two flexor strain in his left elbow. And it's like, he's expected to come back
Starting point is 00:20:55 in the next few days potentially, but you never know. It's also a situation where, you know, general manager Jerry Depoto is hopping on radio and saying like, if Thai France comes back rather than when Ty France comes back and that's really concerning to hear
Starting point is 00:21:11 and so you know all these things plus you got the suspensions on top of it it's just this team really cannot catch a break and right now it's in the midst of a very critical spot in its schedule where you know the schedule is starting to lighten up really you know the Padres of the first team
Starting point is 00:21:29 above 500 that they faced in a really really long time and then they got the Blue Jays right after this and you know there are only three games under 500 now. They're playing a little bit better ball, even though the offense is still lagging behind. The rotation's been great. The bullpen's starting to get a lot better. But, you know, this team is just, it's not deep enough to survive all of these injuries. And that's why we've seen the Carlos Santana trade, even though that's not very exciting. They just needed someone who has a least graded out as a league average hitter that can get on base some. And that's, you know, it's not great.
Starting point is 00:22:03 But it, you know, even when the trade was made, I went on this show and said, You know, he's not amazing, but he is technically better than half of this lineup. So, you know, so like, yay, I guess. So, you know, it's just they're in a really, really tough spot. They got to figure out, you know, what team they want to be here over the next coming weeks, because, you know, deadlines coming up in about a month here. And they don't have a lot to sell, but, you know, they need to buy, I would think, at least for 2023 in mind.
Starting point is 00:22:33 And so, yeah, these next few games, including this, this upcoming series, here. This is going to be a real big test for them, and they're going in, you know, a little light, like I said. So we'll see how it goes. We're going to be talking about more of the series in just a moment. But real quick, a reminder of this crossover episode is brought to you by BetOnline. Betonline.net is your number one source for all your betting needs and sports info. Find all the latest sports developments, league reviews and news, including this year's NHL playoffs and Major League Baseball. Betonline is your continued source for our you sporting wagering information, including live betting, esports and scores, and betonline.net remains the best spot for all your sports
Starting point is 00:23:12 scores, podcasts, and news this season. It is the fastest and easiest way to check in on all your favorite sports and events, including MMA, boxing, and golf. So head to the website today or use your mobile device to learn more about the trends and action. Bet Online is where the game starts. So, Hobby, as I mentioned, unfortunately, Ty France is out for the series. Taylor Tramel is also out for the series and he was he was both my both my voice yeah yeah he was he was playing very well uh before the injury as well i love sure yeah he's he's great he's great dude just yeah everyone that you hear talk about taylor tremel is just like i love that guy that guy's great yeah yeah i remember hearing him on like baseball barbecue like three years ago or whatever and i was like
Starting point is 00:23:55 this guy's so much fun like i'm really i'm really pulling for maybe it can be just a solid m lb player i mean when the padreys had him i was really bullish on him but Probably because I just, good God, right after they traded Manny Margo, I was like, there's no outfielders here. Let's, let's go. Taylor Tremel's the future. So maybe that was a mistake there. But like, you know, he's okay.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And then you've got, of course, my boy who, like, and I've made this joke a lot. So apologies for people to listen to my podcast, but like, you know, like the community episode where there's like the darkest timelines and whatnot. Yeah. It's not the darkest, darkest timeline we're in. I think the darkest timeline we're in is if the Padres had, made that trade for Joey Gallo and they gave up McKenzie Gord Abrams, which is what reportedly
Starting point is 00:24:38 the Rangers were asking for. That's the darkest. But we're in like the second darkest and that's because of the Thai France trade, which is just there is the happy timeline where Thai France is playing first base and the current first baseman for the Padres, the ground ball gremlin is, I don't know. I'm coming home music plays and he's in Kansas City. I don't know. But it's just man. The guy is a beast, though. He can just flat out hit, and I'm actually kind of sad that he's not going to be playing this series. I've been really enjoying watching him play. It's just a fundamentally sound hitter. And then, you know, the rest of the team with the Mariners. I mean, I mean, Julio has had good vibes ever since, I think it was Adolas Garcia robbed him of a home run. And he kind of just like did
Starting point is 00:25:22 the smile or whatever. Like, he was just kind of like, oh my gosh, you got to be kidding me. I mean, it was an amazing play. Julio's just got such good vibes. Everybody said he was slow. nope stealing like 25,000 bases. I've enjoyed that from them. And in general, the Mariners I've always found to be just a very fun team to talk about, whether it's because of the SB Nation video series on the history of the Mariners, which I love to rewatch every now and then, which is fantastic stuff. Everybody should go check that out.
Starting point is 00:25:51 But I'm wondering, my big question for you, and it's not necessarily about a specific player, but it's just, do you think that the hype or the belief in the Mariners this year, it was this a team that was really due for regression because of the run differential last year and how like historically uh at least maybe by mariner standards how clutch they were which is still a good thing but i'm wondering like should they maybe have been uh bullish on playing for this year should they have made those some of those moves right the Robbie ray move and the move for jesse winker and Juana s Juana s Juarez or should they have maybe waited a little bit before firing the bullets and whatnot considering that maybe last year was just a little bit bit a little bit more fortunate, you know? Well, I think it was absolutely time to start spending some money, start acquiring major league talent that was going to help you now, not guys that you're banking on helping you down the road. You know, last year, they weren't a 90 win team, you know, however you slice it. Yes, they won 90 games, but you just look at the way that that roster was constructed, a lot of guys, you know, play into their 90th percentile at times and, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:59 the bullpen being one of the best in baseball and the rotation being, you know, just good enough to get by and give them chances to win games. And like you mentioned, they were so incredibly clutch. And again, a big reason for that was the bullpen. And the bullpen significantly regressed to start this year. Because as we all know, bullpins are highly volatile. You know, they can be amazing, you know, one year and just be at the bottom of the league the next year. And the bullpen has leveled out since. And it's been, pretty good for the last month or so, but it was really, really bad. And on top of that, you had injuries and you had some of their additions like Jesse Winker was off to an awful start to the year. Yeah. Like playing, you know, this is a guy that whenever he's been healthy has been a, you know, statistically a top 10 hitter in baseball. And he was just, he was probably like their seventh or eighth best hitter for a while there. And that's just, you know, it's like you mentioned.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Like, Auhinios Suarez was probably the best part of that deal so far. That's a bad thing. Even though that Suarez has been really good this year, all things considered, that's a bad thing that that that's the case. And so, you know, just some of these things have happened. Robbie Ray was disappointing to start things. And I know you wrote. Yeah, I know that you wrote an article about him. And ever since, though, he's been amazing.
Starting point is 00:28:21 He pitched against me. I know. I know. So you're welcome Mariners Nation. Look, I adore Robbie Ray. Like I love, love, love, love. love love. Is it the pants? Robbie Ray. Is it the pants? It's the thick
Starting point is 00:28:33 boy pants. And it's funny because I will say, I wrote an article for just baseball is what Ty is referencing. I got bullied into that. I swear. Like, everybody was just because everyone was saying like, oh my God, we have someone there on staff who just like hates Robbie Ray and is like this guy gives up
Starting point is 00:28:49 home runs like crazy. I told everyone he'd be bad. And I'm like, yeah, you're right. You're right. Even though I had written about the signing and I thought it was a high floor signing in sense that this is a guy, maybe a more pricey Shamania where he's going to have a high three ERA, but get a lot of strikeouts and have some really good performances. For five years, I like the deal for the Mariners. And I should have stuck with my guns on that. But I will say,
Starting point is 00:29:13 I don't like Robbie Ray as much now. And it's not for some other reasons that May or may not have to do entirely with baseball. But it is the fact that I liked him when he was a 1.6 whip guy that struck out had a K-per-9 of 14 and an ERA above six. He was the Joey Gallo of pitchers, man. It was a walk, the coolest strikeout you've ever seen, or an absolute nuke from like the eighth best thing. It was the most entertained thing. This year, even when he was bad, you might be saying,
Starting point is 00:29:47 oh, well, you're probably enjoying this, right? There was only one OG, like, fun Robbie Ray start. Otherwise, it's just been him getting, like, kind of beat up and walking batters. The Astros won from a few weeks ago when he was getting lit up in the first few innings. That one was a lot of fun. But otherwise, it's not the same. It's that second half when he got trade to the Blue Jays at first. Some of those D-backs years, every single time you throw that CV on, you're going to get some good entertainment.
Starting point is 00:30:12 But, I mean, in fairness for the Mariners, at least he's been really great lately. I know that his last like four starts, maybe like a run or so in each. I know he pitched really well today. He had 12 strikeouts. So that's really good news. It seems like the biggest good news right now for the mayors. Yeah, he's only allowed three runs over his last five starts. Nice.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And I think that's like 30-something innings. And he, it's really because he's found this sinker, this two-seem fastball that he used to throw back in Arizona. And he kind of stopped throwing it. He did throw it for like one year, a couple years ago and then just went away from it again and was completely, had completely gone away from it again this year to start the year. Then in that Astro start that you're referencing. scene. After he gave up the three home runs to the Astros on that start, he started using the two-seamer. It was generating weak contact. He was getting ground balls. And that's the thing, too, is like you look back at Arizona Robbie Ray, like 2015-27 to 2017 Robbie Ray was a ground ball
Starting point is 00:31:09 strikeout heavy pitcher. That's who he was. And he would obviously give up home runs. That would happen. That's just what's going to happen with him. But so far, he's been implementing this two-seamer again. It's been great. It's been a great pitch for him. And he's starting. to, you know, he's starting to find a feel for his slider as well. He used the slider heavy today against the A's and just dominated them with it. He generated 11 swings and misses with just that one pitch. And he had 27 whiffs in this game. Shee.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Which is a season, season high for him. Robbie Ray is back. 37% called strike plus whiffs. Of course, it's against the A's. And his last few starts have been against, you know, lower quality opponents. You know, he faced the Orioles. He also faced the. he is again. You face an Angels lineup
Starting point is 00:31:56 without Shohia Otani or Jared Walsh in it. But he also did this against a really good Red Soxed lineup, to be fair. So you know, it's been good stuff from Robbie Ray. You guys are of course not going to be seeing him. You're instead going to be seeing Chris Flexon, who
Starting point is 00:32:11 we'll see the last time Chris Flexin pitched in San Diego. You know what I mean? I don't know. The last time that he pitched in San Diego, the Padre is very much flexed on him. So yeah not not very looking forward to that line by any chance
Starting point is 00:32:28 I don't know do you do you have that stat line in front of you I'm just wondering no no no no it's okay I was just trying to embarrass I was just trying to embarrass the boy it's okay it's okay I don't want to be mean to the Mariners fans too much yeah yeah let's not relive that because that was a very dark time last season from last week too so the pizza thing
Starting point is 00:32:47 the pizza thing was was just great you know I mean it was lovely shouts to the person on Twitter who's bet um but yeah i mean i think that the series is going to be pretty cool i always love any interleague challenge and this this fun little thing and who knows maybe both of our teams will be making a a similar trade uh again because that's just what they like to do uh is just make these very weird trades i cannot get a vibe for your boy jerry depoto who apparently was making trades while on a hospital bed at one point and then he makes really smart trades and then people
Starting point is 00:33:22 get mad at him from the clubhouse, but then it ends up working. And then everyone's like, cool, never mind, this was good. And then he gets Thai France, but then you're like, wait a minute, why is Jesse Winker? But very odd GM, I would say. It's just everything, you can't be normal in Seattle, tie. Like, it's just, it's literally not allowed. It's impossible. It's impossible.
Starting point is 00:33:43 It's impossible. It's like, even for your other teams, the Seattle Seahawks, they've never played a normal game. It's never happened. Yeah, yeah, they've never played a normal game ever. You had the coolest name ever for a basketball team in the Supersonics. And they're not there anymore. It's just there's no, there's like mean town of Philly where it's just like the jerks. Then there's weird.
Starting point is 00:34:05 By the way, when did this turn into the Hurt Ty podcast? I don't know. The Seahawks suck now. The Sonics are gone. The mirrors suck. All right. I'll take the Sonics one. The Sonics one was totally out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:34:20 That was my fault. I don't know why. You want to take a shot out the Cracken now? You can take a shot out the Cracket if you want as well. Talk about the Cracket. I love the Cracket. Release the damn Cracket. More teams need to have better names.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. So before we hop off here, let me get a prediction out of you. What are you feeling? I'm feeling a spurious split. I think that the pods are in a little bit of a weird spot right now.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I don't feel great. I don't know. It's just there's just a lot of questions with. some of their offensive players. And also, I think that, I don't know, there's something about Clevenger for this start. I can't get a good read on him. He might go out and shove.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I mean, he did really good the other day, which was awesome. When he's been kind of pitching and healthy, Mike Clevenger, who he didn't get a chance to talk about, I'll talk about, has actually been pretty good, and I actually really like to defend that trade because I don't think that it's a bad trade if the player gets hurt necessarily. I think that that's just unfortunate bad luck, while the Typhrancy one is absolutely like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:23 we got, we got, we got fleeced on that trade. While the, Mike Clevenger thing, it's not like he knew after two starts, AJ Prellar, my boy,
Starting point is 00:35:31 that the guy was going to need Tommy John surgery, right? Like, that's just kind of unfortunate luck. So I'm curious to see how he pitches. Um, but for the most part, I mean, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:35:41 man. I don't know. I don't like predicting series to be perfectly honest with you. Yeah, no, you know, we would do this like, pick to click,
Starting point is 00:35:50 take to rake thing. you know, for a while, and it just kind of felt like we were always, you know, cursing the players that we picked. So we kind of just stopped doing that. But I'll throw out a prediction. Why not? Go for it. Mirrors get swept probably. We're being real.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Like, all right, because here's the thing. For all the reasons that I mentioned, the injury is the suspension, you know, to Winker and everything. Because Winker has been playing a lot better lately. He's been one of their best offensive players lately. So that is a pretty huge blow right now. It kills the momentum, yeah. I don't think Chris Flexon's going to be able to keep it close enough today for the, for the Mariners offense, if we're being real about it, barring some crazy out of nowhere explosion, which could happen, to be fair, it is baseball. But they're probably only going to be able to score a couple runs.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I don't think that Flexon's going to be able to keep the Padres on the board just for a couple runs. So the key game here really to me is the Clevenger versus Gilbert start. Gilbert is very much capable of Logan Gilbert we didn't talk about him yeah Logan Gilbert is very much capable of limiting this Padre's offense so that could give the Mariners a chance here because again I just don't think they're going to be able to score enough runs just given the the lack of firepower that they have throughout the lineup because like the top of the lineup is fine just the you know basically five through nine is a black hole for the most part and anything that you get out of that
Starting point is 00:37:18 is a bonus. So, yeah, I think this is a possible sweep for the, for the Padres. Could be a serious split. I don't think that there's any chance that the Mariners get a sweep in San Diego. Again, barring some crazy out-of-nowhere explosion that no one foresees. But hey, it's baseball. Hey, we are in uncertain times. I'll tell you that much. And in sports world especially, you just never know. You never know, man. You never know. Who knows what the Mariners are going to do? They might all of a sudden pluck Frankie Montas out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I don't care if it's into the vision. Maybe they'll trade. Maybe the Mariners will trade for Kevin Durant. Hey, maybe they will. Why not? Let's just do it. Everybody, enough is enough. Let's just go balls to the wall.
Starting point is 00:38:05 That's it. Oh, my gosh. I am ready. Sports are back. All right. Sports are back. Sports are back. And shots to everybody.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I was in North Carolina. That's why you didn't get any episodes of the hotel life. I was weird. and was very mean to me. But shout out, North Carolina. Cool place. Shout out to North Carolina. That's where Kyle Segar is from.
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