Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Casting the 2021 Mariners as Avengers
Episode Date: October 14, 2021Host Ty Dane Gonzalez has co-host Colby Patnode answer four trivia questions regarding Jerry Dipoto's trade history. Then, the two discuss Mitch Haniger's love letter to the Mariners' fan base in the ...Players' Tribune. And finally, the two nerd out by casting the 2021 Mariners as Avengers characters.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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on today's episode of Lockdown, Mariners.
We're going to put Colby's mind to the test and see how many
Jerry Depoto trades he can remember. I
compiled a few for him to go over should be a lot of fun should be pretty entertaining and of course
there are a lot of trades to choose from we're also going to talk about mitch hanniger's letter to the
mariners fan base in the players tribune this morning that had me fired up and finally because we're
dorks we're going to debate which avenger some of the 2021 mariners are most alike you'd be surprised
how much colby and i have talked about this off air so if you like what you hear give the show follow
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Colby,
you ready to do some trivia?
Sure.
Let's give it a shot.
All right.
I put together four trades between 2015 and 2017.
So I tried to remove it as far as possible to really get your mind working here.
And remembering all these trades that Jerry has made in his Mariners tenure.
So we're going to start from easiest to hardest, at least,
my mind that that's how I view these trades.
On December 6th,
or on December 7th, rather,
2016,
Jerry Depoto acquired this right-handed
pitcher from the San Francisco Giants.
Chris Eston.
Yes, correct.
Yes. All right.
One of one. All right. On to the second one.
Seven days after making his first trade as
Mariners General Manager, Depoto sent prospects
Aniel de la Santos and
Nelson Ward to
Which team for which veteran player?
I'm going to go with the San Diego Padres for Joaquin Benoit.
Correct. Correct.
Two of two.
By the way, bonus point, Benoit was traded the next year for Drew Storren.
Yep.
Yeah, mid-season with the Blue Jays, right?
Yep.
Can you name three of the four prospects to Poto traded to the Marlins for right-handed reliever David Phelps?
Oh, no, I could probably get a couple.
One of Jerry's not great traits.
I mean, Phelps would have been good, but he got hurt.
Bray and Hernandez.
Correct.
Bryson Brighman?
No.
Okay.
Bray and Hernandez.
There weren't a lot of good prospects in the system.
So, okay.
So I got Bray in.
Miami
Bryson Brighman
One of them is
One of them is currently on their major league roster
On the Marlins?
Yes
You're going to be kicking yourself
When you realize who it is
It wasn't Pablo Lopez, was it?
It was Pablo Lopez.
Oh
Yeah, that stinks
Oh boy
I thought that was D Gordon trade
and then I'm assuming Brighman went to in the Gordon trade would be
I mean,
Brighman went in the Cameron Mabham trade.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
Yeah, so I don't know who's the other two.
You don't want to take a guess.
You can't think about any of the names.
It's not someone that,
it's not obvious.
It's not an obvious answer.
But I mean,
I said,
I remember Bray and Hernandez being like the big one
because he was one of the few prospects.
And of course,
it was like a top five prospect at that time in the mariner's system,
which isn't saying a lot.
It's like a top like 70 prospect.
Like in like a good system.
He was like a top like 30 prospect.
Lopez Hernandez and.
The other two were right handed pitchers.
I do not know.
The answers are Brandon Miller and Lucas.
Sheraldi. Oh, of course.
How could I forget Brandon Miller and Lucas
Sheraldi?
Shame on me for not getting those two.
I just
want to say if you would be able to remember any of those names.
So, two or three.
Last one here.
On December 13th, 2017,
DePoto acquired two relievers
and two separate deals for bonus pool
allotment. Name those two pitchers.
If it takes you a while, no.
Okay.
If it takes you a while, I'll give you the teams.
Can you repeat the question, please?
Yeah.
On December 13th, 2017, DePoto acquired two relievers and two separate deals for bonus
pool allotment. Name those two pitchers.
Okay. So this, I'm assuming this is after they missed out on Otani and they had all that extra money.
they were trying to figure out
or was that the next off season
I think it was the next off season
okay so it's 2017
no it's 2017 because they
acquired D Gordon like the week before this
okay and got the bonus pool money for
Otani
were they
did they
did they pitch for the Mariners
the following year at all
yes yes okay
all right so now I'm just trying to think
this would have been the 2018 bullpen
one of them is still in
Seattle. Really? Okay.
All right. So I'm trying the 2018
bullpen, obviously not Diaz, not
Colomé,
why am I blanking on the 2018 bullpen? It wasn't that bad.
Would you like the teams that they traded with?
Sure.
Okay. It was the Tampa Bay
Reyes and I believe the Baltimore Orioles.
Anthony Mischivitz.
correct you said the orioles
yes
I'm gonna double check that though
because I now I'm second guessing myself
it was
no sorry it was Cleveland
oh
Sean Armstrong
correct
correct I probably gave it away with the Baltimore Orioles thing
I know he pitched for Baltimore
and Cleveland's like okay yeah
I got that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
There you go.
So you went three or four and almost got the Marlins one as well.
I mean, the other two were pretty pretty out there.
So, but yeah, overall, it did a good job.
Yeah, I was thinking about doing, I was thinking about doing like the, the Richie Schaefer trade.
But you and I had talked about that previously off air.
Yeah, Taylor Motter and all that.
there's a couple of others that I consider
but I think this might be something that we end up doing
a few times this off season. Maybe not every week
but I think it would be fun to
to have you guess these some more. Maybe you'll have me guess some as well
because there are tons of Jerry to photo traits to cover
in his tenure. I know that there's like an actual tracker out there.
I think Cusputus BBQ had a tracker for a while
that they were running or someone along those lines
was doing it. Might have to find
that because that might be easier to find because I use the ESPN transaction wire for this and just
search for like trade for the keyword trade or acquired but yeah um it's fun going down memory lane a
little bit but uh we're going to talk about one of the players that jerry de putto acquired via
trade that's Mitch Hanager who uh wrote a love letter to the mariners fan base this morning in the
player's tribune and uh that that had been
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Let's talk Mitch Hanager,
who this morning penned a love letter
to the Mariners fan base in the Players Tribune.
And,
you know,
he acknowledged that, you know,
the great end to the season,
the run that they went on to even get into
the playoff conversation,
but admitted that,
you know,
no one's.
happy with just getting to that point, that they are all very disappointed with how it ended,
not being able to get the playoffs.
He talked a little bit about Kyle Seeger and their relationship and how the clubhouse
really wanted to get Seeger into the playoffs for the first time and told a little bit about,
you know, what the atmosphere was like around the trade deadline, especially for guys
like Seeger and for Hanager.
And, uh, and also, you know, made a commitment to the Mariners fan base for 2022,
saying we're going to end the freaking drought.
Except he just, he didn't say freaking.
But he,
he's very pumped about the next season.
He's, he's ready to,
to get this thing going.
And it seems like that's reflective of a lot of people's
thoughts in that clubhouse.
And, you know, he also shouted out the front
office and said, you know, I hope they're reading this,
knowing that we want them to invest in this team
and go all in on this group.
of guys. What did you think about Hanager's letter there, Colby?
Yeah, it was pretty impressive, I would say. It was, it was raw. You know, it felt like he spoke
from the heart and certainly it should fire up a lot of Mariner fans. You know, he had to battle
just to get back on the field. You know, it's a lot of frustration there and it speaks to,
you know, just kind of his mindset and his attitude about getting
back and it's it's it's it's good uh it's not it's not like good PR because I don't
like Mitch wrote this to to pump up the Mariners. Um, but it is, you know, it's it's
in the year the Mariners could be slipping from some people's mind because it's kind of sort of
in that gray area where it's not quite the off season, but there's really nothing involving
the Mariners happening right now. Uh, so this was, uh, just kind of a, a reminder that, hey,
you know, we're here.
And I think this is, I think this is a good,
it's kind of an announcement, really, in a way that, you know, Kyle's gone.
I, you know, he didn't say that, but Kyle's gone.
And we need a new leader.
And I think it's going to be JP and I think it's going to be Mitch.
So it was a very good read.
And yeah, it fires you up.
But we'll see, we'll see what happens with it.
But, yeah, I mean, if you weren't excited for Mariners Baseball after this season,
then, I mean,
I don't know if you could be, but if you weren't and you haven't read Mitch Hanager's letter yet, you should probably go do that.
Yeah, it's clear that, you know, him and the players, they want this just as bad as the fans do.
And they want the ownership to invest in this team.
What did you think about those comments, shouting out, you know, calling out the front office to spend this year.
What did you think about that?
I thought he did it in a way that was fair, right?
It wasn't, you know, it wasn't whiny.
It wasn't, you know, overly critical.
I think it was just, it was just fair to say, hey, you know, I hope you guys are listening.
And I hope you guys feel what we're feeling and feel what the, you know, the fan base is feeling and all that stuff.
There might be some people who read it as kind of like, you know, oh, the owner or, you know, the front office isn't communicating with the players that they're going to, they're going to go big.
all that stuff and it's like well yeah they that's not what they do like it's not the front office's job
to tell the players here's what we're going to do or try to do um so yeah i wouldn't read too much
into that i i just i think it was just you know just mitch speaking from his heart and and trying
to make sure that his uh you know his feelings for the season were known and and what he thinks
this team can be with the good off season uh and so and i i think jerry agrees and i think he's
basically said as much.
So, yeah, it's, as long as ownership doesn't get in the way, I think the Mariners are going
to do what Mitch is asking them to do.
And, you know, it might hurt sometimes because there might be some players that Mitch is
friends with who get traded, you know, but that's just the way it works.
And, you know, if Mitch wants to win a World Series, then it sounds like he does, then he's
right to put some pressure on the front office.
and the front office is right to just, you know, do what they think is best.
So I didn't read too much into that.
I thought it was a, I thought it was well done by Mitch and didn't put anybody in, you know, in a bad spot or didn't paint anybody negatively, like certain other people's comments.
So I thought it was a well done call to action.
And it just feels like this storm is brewing in a lot of these guys who in this drought to be the one.
do it that, you know, they feel the, you know, the tirelessness in Seattle, but they also feel
the sleeping giant that is this fan base and this town and how much of a baseball town this
place will be when they get to that point. We saw a glimpse of that in the final series of the
season when they sold out all those crowds against the angels, et cetera. You know, once this team
gets to the playoffs, it's going to be massive. And you already feel this shift in just
the Seattle sports culture right now.
You know, the Seahawks are kind of going through a lull right now.
You know, the quarterback is hurt, all that stuff.
The Cracken are just getting going.
Really, this is the Mariners time to really take a hold of that Seattle sports hierarchy
and sit atop of that and turn this thing around.
And it just seems like they're on the cusp of that now.
And it's just about having this incredible, you know, a championship offseason really to take a, you know, a saying from,
from the Seahawks, which again, you know, it's not about how much money you spend,
but it's about building a team that is complimentary to the pieces that you already have here
because you do have pieces. You have pieces like Mitch Hanneger and J.P. Crawford and possibly
Kyle Lewis and Jerich Kellnick and Marco Gonzalez and Chris Flex and, you know, that bullpen,
of course, as well, you can build around this team and build, you know, of course they were a
90-win team last year. Some of that was luck. Some of that, you know, they just were able to,
inexplicably win a lot of close games.
But you're not going to be able to just replicate that.
You need to have a championship off season.
And I love what Mitch said to the front office because it's exactly what the fans feel.
It's exactly what the Mariners players feel because it just, it feels close.
It feels so close and they need to take advantage of this moment because they are right on the cusp of that.
And also the division around them is getting worse.
The A's are getting worse.
The angels are still struggling despite having all these superstars.
players. It's really just the Astros that they're chasing. And the Astros might lose Carlos
Correa. They might lose Yuli Curiel. Of course, they're going to be willing to spend. And I'm sure
that they're still going to have a great team next year. There's an opportunity here to go into
next season and feel like you're at least going to be in contention for the division title. And that can
be done fairly simply because you do have building blocks in place. This is not a full tear down
that needs to happen. You just need to add some quality,
complimentary pieces to this thing.
And you should be able to move forward and do some damage.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Loving what I'm hearing from these players, especially Mitch Hanigur.
It's awesome.
And I can't wait to hear more from these guys.
Hope to hear more from them throughout the off season,
especially as this team makes some moves.
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Colby and I talk about off air sometimes because we're dweeps.
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So Colby, since your laptop crapped out and you had to go to a Chrome book,
you haven't been able to do many videos on our control the zone.
slash true to the Trident YouTube account.
But one idea that you had that you wanted to do was to put the faces of the 2021 Mariners
on the on some of the Avengers from in from the end of Avengers end game when all the Avengers
come out of the portals to have the final battle against Thanos, et cetera.
And you and I have talked at length because we are just absolute dorks for the MCU and
Marvel stuff.
And if you guys have listened to our Control the Zone podcast, you know how much we talk
about this stuff, but you and I have talked
that length about, you know, which
Avengers fit the Mariners or rather
which Mariners fit the Avengers.
So I thought today we would talk about
that. I say it's because
my laptop broke, but also
it's a really hard video to make
for me, particular, because I'm not that
patient. So that's the other
reason. But
not because it's like a lot of motion
capture and all that stuff, and I don't even know how to do that.
But it's
it's tough to say
I
so I think the easy one for me is
is the the Ant Man
you know
when he goes supersized
and he comes out and he releases
who is it it's it's Hulk
and Rocket and
War Machine
yeah so yeah so the easy one for that
is that you know
Ant Man is is probably
probably Toro
or Anderson
Right.
He's the big acquisition.
He comes out of,
he comes out of the rubble and he helps right away.
And then the three he releases
and in some order is Castillo,
Smith,
and either Anderson and Toro.
I think that's just an easy,
like,
those are the reinforcements that come out of nowhere,
kind of,
and,
you know,
and they really help.
They really help in your battle.
So,
um,
those,
those four were pretty easy.
It's just a matter,
do I want Toro or
Anderson to be Ant Man.
And I'll go Toro because
you know, Ant Man's awesome.
So no.
Jerich Elnick is absolutely Spider-Man, right?
Yeah.
Because like, yeah.
Because like, plus, you know, he
comes up, struggles,
basically gets snapped,
and then returns and really helps
out in the final run
for the Mariners. I think there's something poetic
about that for Jerry Kalenka's Spider-Man.
Plus he's kind of a young guy
and like it fits.
the big one of course is to chella black panther he's the first to come out of the portals
so like who is that that has to be someone huge for this team i feel like
so this is where i struggle because it's like
like for this year's team
to me j p crawford is either
cap or he's black panther um
But, you know, I mean, obviously it seems like Seeger was kind of the leader this year.
So I guess it would make sense for him to be cap.
And so I guess Black Panther would then be, would it be JP.
Although with his hair and his beard and all that stuff, JP could play pretty good Thor.
So. So.
That's true too.
That is true, too.
I could, I could see that.
So, but no, Black Panther, I'm going to go with, I'll go.
I'm going to go with JP
I'm struggling to figure out who else to put in that role
because it's not it's not Thai France
it's not Louis Terence
like it's got to be like a fairly big player
but like not one of the big like
three or four you know what I mean so
I'll go JP as black yeah
well I also like it too because you know
again talking about the poetry of it
if you want to look for a deeper
Which this is silly to say,
considering we're talking about
Photoshop and faces onto Avengers characters,
but Tichalla wasn't there
during the first part of the battle.
He shows up later.
Kind of what J.P. Crawford had this year.
You know, started out slow,
and then figured things out in June,
and kind of went from there.
Of course, had some up and downs along the way,
but good year for JP to join in kind of later on in the fight.
Yeah.
Who do you think is Thai France?
I mean, like, well,
let's let's talk about iron man
because that's the biggest one of all
I do like the Seeger for
yeah I do like the Seeger for
the Seeger for
for Cap
of course because I mean even the Mitch Hanager's
article that we just talked about
they were he referenced
Seeger as Cap
so I think that one's pretty clear
but yeah I mean who takes the mantle
of Iron Man
is it Ty France
is it Marco
the problem
I have with Iron Man is that like I always associate like Tony Stark with Iron Man because
duh but also just like the attitude you know what I mean so it's like it's hard for me to put
somebody like Thai France who's much more like like you listen to him miced up he's entertaining
he's funny but it's not like he's not brash or anything like that um like Tony so it this one's
tough but he is one of the big six so you kind of want to you know and I guess I'd probably go
Marco? Yeah, I'd probably go Marco.
Yeah, I feel like Marco could have those
Tony S. quips.
Yeah, he could. I'd probably go
Marco. He's one of the big six and yeah.
Like, let's say into, like back when
back during the shortened season, they would
interview players during the games and they interviewed
Marco a couple of times and Marco's actually kind of a funny guy.
It's kind of got a little sarcasm to him. I like it.
He does. I mean, he famously wore the
a very boring shirt.
By the way, I could also see Marco
as Hawkeye, and that's not
an insult. If you guys don't know, I love Hawkeye.
But just pinpoint accuracy.
You know what I mean? Just like that.
But also, you know, Thai France could be Hawkeye.
Chris Flexing could be Hawkeye.
Yeah, no. I like France's Hawkeye, because, I mean,
he doesn't like fire arrows, but he hits arrows all over the
ballpark.
but yeah no it's
who are the bullpen guys
are they the Guardians of the Galaxy
yeah
I think Paul Seawald is Starlord
I think that's
yeah
yeah and I kind of
I don't know why I kind of see Steckenrider
is Drax
I think that
I work I'm having a great time
I know you are you know I'm sure you
the listener is having a great time as well
you let us know
Who is the Captain America of this 2021 Mariners team?
Yeah, well, that's on Twitter at L-O-U-U-U-U-Nerscorriders.
By the way, is Logan Gilbert Thor, or is that just because of the hair?
Because, like, Gilbert brings the thunder.
Like, he brings the lightning.
That's true.
That's true.
But I could just be associating that with the hair, you know?
Yeah.
I like it, though.
I like it.
I'm trying to think of who else could, you know, bring the, I mean, maybe Thor is loose
Trentz.
I don't think we've assigned Mitch Hanigar to anybody yet.
It could be him.
Oh, yeah.
We haven't talked about Miss Hanager.
Mitch Hanneger's probably Thor.
Yeah, Mitch Hanager is Thor.
Yeah.
There you go.
So, yeah, it's, uh, Black Widow is probably sneaky assassin.
Um, he's Casey Sadler is Black Widow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
If you guys are wondering who Thanos is, it's John Heyman.
Or Kevin Madder.
Or Kevin Mather.
Yeah.
Either is okay.
All right.
Who makes up the Black Order?
Is it like Bob Nightingale?
Whoever loses out on being Thanos, whether it's Hamon or, uh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nightingale.
In this point, two of them are dead, right?
So there's only two of the Black Order left.
Because Ebony Ma is dead.
and the big guy's dead
so
it's big guy dead yet
I think so
whatever yeah
it's Haman
it's Nightingale it's
you know
and it's Mather
but
yeah no
it's it's fun
see see this is how
you know
this is kind of what we do
we're we're dumb like this
and we could spend
probably a couple hours
talking about this but
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Colby's a huge fan
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He'll tell you all about
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Very wise of you
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Very, very smart.
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