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Episode Date: January 2, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today, not only are we going to grade your trades, but you're going to grade ours. Colby. And it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, it is Friday, January 2nd, 2026. Happy New Year. You're listening to the Locktime Marys podcast part of the Locktime Podcasts Network.
Starting point is 00:00:30 now the number one sports podcast network. My name is Tiding Gazzalas and I'm joined as always by my co-coast Colby Patnode. We're two lifelong Marys fans who've been covering the team for over half a decade. And today it's Fan Fiction Friday, the show where you submit your marriage trade ideas. And we grade them on the 2080 scale based on creativity, uniqueness and of course, if they make sense for both clubs. But this edition of Fan Fiction Friday comes with a little bit of a twist. We're going to react to a few of your trades, of course.
Starting point is 00:00:55 But then we're going to give you a few trade ideas of our own before we do. I want to shout out our title sponsor today, Fanduel. Before tip off, check the Fandual app and see what's dropping during NBA happy hour every Friday from 6 to 7.30 p.m. Eastern. Our first trade of the day comes from Oren. Kobe Mayo, heading from the Baltimore Orioles
Starting point is 00:01:17 to the Seattle Mariners for Carlos Vargas and Tarantle of Sanjo. Why? Like that, that's kind of my... It's not a bad trade. I'm not telling you it's a bad trade. You know, something like this happened, it's kind of a challenge trade. You know, it's, I don't see it a ton anymore. But, yeah, I mean, these are two prospects that I would say are, obviously, again, beauty in the eye of the bolder applies here.
Starting point is 00:01:44 But two prospects who are kind of similarly valued, I would think. But if you're the Mariners and you're going to trade Gerangelo Sanger for a player who hasn't proven he can play and perform at the major league level, why don't you just keep him and roll with Colt Emerson at third base? Yeah. Because, like, you have to consider Mayo the third baseman if you trade for him. Like, obviously, Nailer's going to play first base. D.H. is open, but, you know, I mean, right now you're kind of rolling with a canned zone. Ref Snyder thing at D.H., so is Mayo actually better than that?
Starting point is 00:02:24 I kind of doubt it. So it kind of has to be viewed as a third baseman. and you know if you're going to roll with an unproven guy at third base why wouldn't it be like Emerson's a better prospect his his prospect peak is higher than Mayo's prospect peak he's actually going to be able to stay at third base like you know that for sure because he's going to be an above average shortstop right there's Mayo's probably better suited for first base yeah like I said and honestly like is Mayo's bat even going to be good enough
Starting point is 00:03:00 that he's more valuable than Ben Williamson, who you know is at least a good defender over at third base? I would say probably, but it's not a guarantee, which is, you know, kind of... That's my point here, right? If you're trying to... Like, obviously, in a vacuum,
Starting point is 00:03:16 I would rather bank on Kobe Mayo than Ben Williamson. But, like, again, if I'm having to weigh, like, trading prospects and all this stuff, like, would you rather have... Kobe Mayo or Gerangelo Sanger and Ben Williamson. Like valuation-wise, I think it's fine. It's just like from a Mariners perspective, why? What's the incentive to make this trade?
Starting point is 00:03:40 Like from an Oriole side of things, maybe they think Sanger can be in their rotation next year. And obviously they have a ton of corner bats. They probably would rather trade Mount Castle, but obviously they're not getting anything of value for Mount Castle right now. so yeah i don't think it's a bad valuation i think it's a pretty fun like challenge trade that you came up with it just when you get to like the does this make sense for the mariners thing i don't see how it does so i think that's going to limit your grade uh here but it's
Starting point is 00:04:14 again i think the valuation is about right i think you know obviously the mariners are looking for a right-handed hitting back a right-handed hitter uh the orioles need pitching depth and you know high potential high level uh pitching depth coming down the pipeline here as their rotation is is still bad but also very uh you know short term so yeah it's interesting i just don't see the point of you're the mariners so i think i have to cap it at like a 50 yeah yeah that's where i'm out as well like it's the valuation it's fine it's just for the marries perspective i think you're just better off like yeah i think you're just better off, you know, taking your chances with Williamson and Emerson.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Hampsaggarty 69 has a deal here with the Yankees where the Mariners trade, the cop round B pick that they were just awarded at the winter meetings. And Victor Robles to the Bronx for Camillo DeVall. I guess like where this gets hung up from me, just like the Yankees need bullpen help. And what does Victor Robles really do for them? because I don't think they're going to subtract from their bullpen, which is, again, needs help and it has already gotten worse this winner for a Compron B-Pick.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It's just not really the Yankees speed. Yeah. I don't think this really matters. My guess is it's more to just kind of even out salaries a little bit, but I don't know what the Yankees are going to do with Victor Robles. No. But, you know, it seems like they won another bat in the outfield, but A, Robles isn't a bat, really, at the end of the day. And it sounds like they would prefer a left-handed hitter.
Starting point is 00:06:03 But anyways, I think the crux of the deal is the comp round B-pick for Doval. And I don't think, like you said, the Yankees are kind of competing this year. They need bullpen help. Subtracting from the bullpen is not something they're likely to do. But I do think the idea of, like, that comp-round B-pick for, a couple years of a reliever like like doval makes sense like that that's a good thought uh so i think you picked the wrong team here uh but i think the valuation is pretty good for a reliever like yeah doval so again maybe it's raily instead of robles my whatever maybe it's kansas i don't
Starting point is 00:06:43 know but i think like that comp round b pick and one of your i don't want to call them a spare part because you really don't have parts to spare to spare right now. But, you know, Combrown B-picking, maybe it's like a decent but not top-10 prospect or it's Robles or it's Canzone, whatever, for a couple of years of a reliever like that, I think is pretty good. So kind of conflicted because the actual deal you propose, I just don't see much of a point for the Yankees to do it. But I think overall, in general, the idea behind this swap, I think makes a good amount of sense.
Starting point is 00:07:16 so I don't know how to square that circle so 50 square that circle all right I like it yeah I'm like out of 45 I think just because like the like I said the trade itself yeah like the general like idea of it is is fine it's just like the this is a non-starter for the Yankees I think like this just isn't really something that I can imagine them doing or even entertaining like I think you just kind of get laughed off the phone by them specifically oh yeah yeah like in general in a vacuum like it's yeah it's a nice idea
Starting point is 00:07:56 it's just from the Yankees perspective they just lost different Williams their bullpen was very shaky over the course of 2025 they need to make it better and then they're going to subtract from it again for a comp round B pick I just like that's not going to happen yeah they're just not going to do that
Starting point is 00:08:13 so yeah so it's it's So 45 to a 50 for me. All right. We have one more listener trade to go over and then we'll get into our trades in just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of the Locktime Marys podcast is once again brought to you by Fandul.
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Starting point is 00:10:13 It's fan fiction Friday. got one more trade from one of our listeners. We're going to react to that, and then we're going to get into our trades. Night Runner has a deal here with the Cubs. It's Nico Horner, as well as Luis Martinez Gomez, and $1 million for Gerangelo Sanger and Samad Taylor. The Night Runner adds, Cubs are about $36 million under the luxury tax, which would be close to getting Gino Souras and Zach Gallen. This clears $10 million and gives them more margin. Nico is tough because you only get him for a year, but he's probably going to be about a five-win player.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And the style that he plays, it translates to any ballpark. So there's really not anything you have to worry about with the T-Mobile of it all. So, yeah, I think the Cubs would probably want more would be my hunch, even though, again, it's only one year of a coroner. So, yeah, I think it's a little light. I don't know anything about the prospect that you have coming back to Seattle. But because I think you're not giving up enough here, I don't think the prospect matters.
Starting point is 00:11:31 So I think, you know, the Cubs are a tough, the Cubs are a tough team to kind of evaluate because they're kind of where you're at. They're obviously not willing to go past the luxury. tax so we talked about in the past like Luis Castillo for Nico Horner that made since last winter it doesn't anymore from a Cups perspective so yeah it's a little bit tough to say um but i think i mean samad taylor and and martinez Gomez no disrespect to those guys throw them out of the deal they don't matter so it's horner for sangea i think you need more it might be something like Sanja and
Starting point is 00:12:09 Bizarro like something off your major league roster or might be like no we're not trading them unless we get Ryan Sloan you know like as the
Starting point is 00:12:18 headliner here so I'm not quite sure what to do with Nico Horner trades I think Sanja is a fine like co headliner at the best so I think you need a Laz or an Arroyo thrown in here or you might have to
Starting point is 00:12:32 dip into your major league bullpen the Cubs have spent a ton of resources trying to fix their bullpen this winter so could they be interested I mean they have two lefties I don't know if they want to carry three but could they be interested in Gabe Spire here maybe that might be an avenue to go down too
Starting point is 00:12:46 one thing to keep in mind when you're doing these these trades for these rentals in the winter for one full season is there's some math going on here do teams think the qualifying offer is going to survive the CBA negotiations that are coming up
Starting point is 00:13:04 because if you do and you're the Mariners you can look at it be like, well, we're trading, hypothetically, Sanger and, let's LAS, let's just say both of them, right? We're trading them for Horner. Yeah, but we're also getting a 20, 27 top 40 round pick, or a top 40 pick. So it's really like a first round pick and Horner for these two prospects, or you can extend Horner and you get more than one year. So it's kind of one of those things where you have to kind of factor that in, but also the
Starting point is 00:13:35 Cubs are going to factor that in from there. And it's like, yeah, we just keep Horner and get the draft pick next year if they think that the qualifying offer and the compensation system is going to be similar in the new CBA. So we're kind of have to wait and see here. But I think you're a co-headliner short of getting Horner. I'd love to be wrong, certainly. But I think it's going to take two top, you know, 50 to 80-ish prospects to get this done, even though it's only. for one year. Yeah, so I'm at like a 40 less.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I don't know. It's tough to say. I think I'm 45, somewhere in that range, 40, 45. So. Yeah. All right. Well, it's time to get into our trades now. How many do you have?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Like, I would say two firm ones and then like two firm ones and then like two. two that are like vague ideas that you talk through maybe for like an entire episode next week because the Mariners are giving us nothing no new content so yeah I might have to make something up for next week so I have I have two they're not like a huge deal one of them I one of them I'll just say right now like I don't like it but like it's something that popped in my head because I only had one that I was going to do because I knew that you had like a few at least ideas that you wanted to go over so but but yeah so I have two so we'll I don't know do you want to start
Starting point is 00:15:12 Luke Rayley yeah for Jose Cabbiero okay funny right but it kind of makes sense that's that is funny it kind of makes sense if the Yankees are unable to bring back Ballinger we know they want a left-hand hitting outfielder Luke Rayley fits that ballpark didn't Cashman say that there were two left-handed though yes or the offseason but they're still in on Belanger, so I don't know what to tell you. But they also have like seven infielders on their roster, and apparently they're interested in Bo Bichet. So they're going to have to make moves here in their infield.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And obviously, Jazz Chisholm's kind of been in the news recently for trade stuff and other stuff. But he's been in the news recently about, you know, hey, you might get traded. Yankees fans are furious because they want them to trade Volpe, who the Mariners did have a lot of. interest in it at the draft. So just keep an eye on that. That's a possibility too. But they're going to have to move some of these guys. And the Mariners could really use a right-handed hitter who can play multiple spots in the infield, provide some value offensively. Cabbiero is a guy
Starting point is 00:16:20 who strikes out a ton, but he also steals a ton of bases and he can play eight positions. And, you know, they have similar club control. So I think it kind of, it's funny because, you know, obviously they were already traded for each other once, but I kind of think it makes sense that they might get traded for each other again. It's just, you know, the, the, the don't, there's a domino that has to fall, the direct, the correct way for this to be a realistic option here. But, yeah, keep an eye on the Yankees and their infielders. I obviously, jazz chisholm would be the preference, I think.
Starting point is 00:16:48 But, gulpy could be a surprise, kind of that, like, whoa, didn't see that coming, type of thing to play some third base for you. But also, Jose Cabiero is a guy who fits this roster pretty well, considering where they're at. So, you know, I don't know if Luke Rayleigh gets it done or not, but I just thought that was kind of a funny trade that kind of makes sense. And it's, it's, you know, it's already happened. So I was like, yeah, sure, I'll throw that one out there. So there you go. Luke Rayleigh for Jose Cabiero, part two. Well, speaking of Luke Rayleigh, I guess I'll give you the trade that I came up with that I don't like, but I'm just going to say it because like, and just leave it at that
Starting point is 00:17:29 because this is one of those trades where it's like well maybe it's a trade with the Cardinals Luke Rayleigh for Brennan Donovan no I'm kidding it's it's Luke Rayleigh it's Luke rarely for Nolan Gorman
Starting point is 00:17:45 ah no thanks yeah I'm just I just like it kind of lines up like club control right wise I think I think they have the
Starting point is 00:17:59 same amount of club control yeah i guess like how much does like how done are the cardinals with gorman because gorman's younger he's also just like gorman plays a more valuable position like no he just he just stands there yeah luke raley would be as good of a third basement or second baseman as nolan gorman gave him that we've seen luke rale no i stand by that i don't care i stand by that nolan gorman doesn't need a glove like you're just wasting time time there so it's all on the bat he's a left-handed bad he doesn't even hit right-handed so it's just like he strikes out a ton too he's like not c tz at all career 300 on base jordan walker who's also cardinals bus boy the cardinals really struggle at developing hitters
Starting point is 00:18:47 don't they i'm sure jane weather hole will be fine though sure sure um yeah i don't know It just popped in my head. I was like, I'll trade him for Matt Sponson. Yeah, sure. Look, we're, we've talked about so many players, so many trade ideas.
Starting point is 00:19:08 It is very hard to think outside the box. That was my attempt at thinking outside the box. It is indeed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, there's a couple 40s for you to get things started.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Yeah, yeah. Well, I like the, I like the Rayleigh and Cabbiero idea. a bit more than a 40 they only get more unhinged from there just because it's funny I would give it at least a 50 it just yeah it gave me a laugh so trust me they get a lot worse and more unhinged after that so you're listening to the lockdown errors podcast part of the lockdown
Starting point is 00:19:43 podcast network your team every day as always if you want to hear from me and colby even more and help support the show we have a patreon it's called control the zone and on there we talk merrish seahawks all that good stuff for more information go to patreon.com for us control the zone link in the description of this episode so those were a couple of uh trades i guess for you sure uh to get the ball rolling here uh what's your what's your next trade all right so i have feldon celestin okay gerangelo st joe and this will tell you what team they're going to tie pete oh okay so it's tampa yes uh for griffin jacks And T.J. Nichols or or Joe Boyle, but I don't think that the raise are ready to give up on that.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I want Joe Boyle to be in the bullpen so bad. So I thought they were trading for Griffin Jacks to convert him to the rotation this year. Yeah, I think we both do. But apparently that's that's not happening. Nope. Okay. No mention of it. So I'm not quite sure.
Starting point is 00:20:51 They just really didn't like Tage Bradley. I don't. I'm not sure. now they've traded boss as well like it seems like this is the time to convert griff and jacks into a starter like it's got two years left to club control so like you give him the first year first half of this year to start and then you trade him at the deadline again like but yeah it doesn't sound like it so yeah you get griff and jacks for two years t j nichols is like a six four buck 90 dude who still throws pretty hard with good stuff and so you know he is projectable and all that um Again, I really like Joe Boyle. I want to see that. That is Matt Brash stuff. If you could just refine it a little bit, I would stick him in the bullpen.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Obviously, he's not in my rotation. But, yeah, one of those two guys would be nice. But, yeah, it's Felman and it's Tai Pi, two guys. We know that the race have liked in the past. I think one thing that Mariner fans probably aren't willing to accept at this point is that that Felon Sellon's trade value has to be significantly damaged by this. this point he can't stay on the field and that that's a that's going to be a mark against him it's stunting his development a little bit he's still a good prospect don't get me wrong uh but he is not
Starting point is 00:22:07 like a headliner for a all-star caliber player he's just not that guy right now so he could be in a year or two again if you can stay on the field but he's not right now so i think it's sanger and felon is kind of like co-headliners and then it's just type heat for you know a lottery ticket for for one of their lower ranked lottery tickets and Nichols. But yeah, that's the idea. Give, you know, give them here. I would say Griffin Jacks is a daddy in the bullpen. So strikes out a lot of guys.
Starting point is 00:22:36 He doesn't walk that many. You know, he did give up quite a few runs this past year. But had a little bit of a home run issue. I mean, it was only seven homers and 66th Indians, but it was a 15.6% homerend to fly ball raid. He came against Cal Raleigh, probably. So, yeah. I know one of them did.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah. I think Griffin Jacks would fit really well. So it's kind of like, look, you're trying to get this infield. You're trying to build out this lineup. It's like, okay, if you can't do that, you still need to pivot and build the best team you possibly can. So as I've mentioned in the past, if you can't build out the offense the way you want, it's time to build that screw you bullpen and just trying to win games three to two.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I think this is an appropriate pivot because as we've discovered, there's really not a lot of bats that check a lot of the boxes the Mariners want to check and so if you can't do it that way we need to prevent more runs and the way to do that is to improve your pitching and I think Griffin Jacks does that I just wonder if like
Starting point is 00:23:36 Feldman and Gerangelo even if it's both as like the headliners I don't know if that's enough for Jacks. I don't either like is a Royo better as a headliner is Laz but like you know obviously Beauty and is in the eye of the beholder here
Starting point is 00:23:52 like what would the raise prefer but like yeah you know I do wonder if they're like Sloan or bust for Jax yeah and that point you're done so yeah yeah no yeah but yeah I think that at least gets a conversation going I don't know maybe
Starting point is 00:24:07 maybe they love Griffin Jacks I don't know but yeah I just like if they're not converting him to a starter why did they make that trade it's weird to me that they're making the moves they've made but then they're going to keep Ysada Clevenger and Jax like why cash in on those guys or at least one
Starting point is 00:24:26 but whatever yeah all right um I got a reliever trade that's a guy we've talked about quite a bit well I'm here for the Rockies it's a you know similar idea to the Gregory Santos thing where it's like it's one year production right trying to buy in early on that and obviously it's pretty dangerous because it's a guy that you know
Starting point is 00:24:48 pitches in Colorado but he actually pitched pretty well in Colorado. It was a sub for E.R. I got Corbyn Dickerson going there. It could be Corbin Dickerson or it could be the comp round B pick. I kind of feel like the value, maybe I'm wrong on this, but I kind of feel like the values of Dickerson and the compound B pick are similar. Maybe they're not. Maybe the compound B pick is more valuable, especially to, you know, the Rockies. But Dickerson feels very Colorado E, you know, because it's like really good defense can cover a lot of ground and, you know, huge raw power right that feels very corzy it feels like a very corzy profile also if you kind of struggle against breaking stuff Colorado's a good place to play in because of the high
Starting point is 00:25:31 altitude the ball doesn't spin as well so yeah um and then I just have like Matt tiberia and Ryan Hawks is a couple of throwans Tiberia was activated towards the end of the year he reminds me of Brian he was pretty good he was pretty good before he got hurt yeah and then Hawks like and do some of Brian Wu obviously he's not going to be Brian Wu but like Yeah, and Hawks didn't miss a ton of bats, but he kept the ball on the ground a lot. Sure. He's a potential middle guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah. Yeah. I think that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he, again, it's the, it's the Gregory Santos idea. It's pretty much where it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 All right. Let's get off the rails for the last. This is a. Yeah. So these are all involving George Kirby. Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I thought you were, I thought you were just going to give me like jazz chisholm. trades and who says I'm not so oh god oh no all right all right so first up this is kind of a pick which one you like better not so much grade but whatever uh george kirby for jazz chisholm will warren and chase hampton or you could do kirby for nico horner ben brown and jonathan long and it might as well tell you my other one because it's also a george kirby this one's this one I thought of just this morning while I was driving in so it's not fully like
Starting point is 00:26:55 worked out but the idea is George Kirby and then probably a decent prospect to the Brewers for Freddie Peralta and Abner Uribe All right interesting
Starting point is 00:27:11 three years of Kirby for one year of the headliner that you'd be getting back either Jazz, Nico or Peralta although I would argue Rebae might be the actual headliner of the other trade but whatever
Starting point is 00:27:24 so yeah and then you kind of try and get like the guy to replace Kirby until you can get to the you know the middle of the year or maybe Anderson is a thing will Warren is fine not much of a breaking ball but it's fine
Starting point is 00:27:40 would the Yankees do that the Yankees do Chisham plus Warren plus Hampton I mean Hampton is like kind of whatever in that deal but it hasn't been healthy in two years but stuff is good you know club controls you know two win pitch for this year yeah yeah if you looked at his underlying stuff he does not have good stuff like he's a guy who i think could survive at team mobile park for half a year then i might shift him into the bullpen or trade him next winter so i don't know if they do that but this is again like if i'm trading george kirby i
Starting point is 00:28:17 have to get something that helps me this year and kind of a replacement or at least a potential replacement for half a year and that's why ben brown's and the other one ben brown has incredible stuff he just kind of sucks at pitching so yeah uh i think the one that entices me the most is the brewer's one obviously because it's your rebate and peralta and again that might cost also like a royo i don't know yeah because like the brewers i mean then you know they're going to start running into a similar problem that they're already running into. And they're kind of pushing the Peralta thing back a year or two and that's it.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah. And Peralta, they're like wanting to trade despite him only making like $8 million this year. And like Kirby's going to make more than that next year. Next year. Yeah. Right about that at least. Yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I mean, like that's the one that I would like. I just don't think the burers, like it would probably need more. Kirby, Arroyo. and like, I don't know. And then at that point for the Mariners, yeah, but then at that point for the marriage, like, are you doing, are you doing all that for Abner, Ereba?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Because that's really what you're doing it for. Right. Well, I mean, I would argue you're getting a better pitcher in 2026 based on the those guys just had. And then you're getting, again, if you think and keep in mind with all three of these trades, the prize you're getting is a rental. like the main piece you're getting is a rental, do you believe that there will be, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:53 compensation, the qualifying offer, do you think that system will survive? Because if you do, all three of those guys are going to net you a first round pick in 2027. So that's kind of part of this as well. It's like, okay, well, I'm trading Kirby. Like I'm trading Kirby for only one year of jazz. Well, it's like, well, you're trading Kirby for one year of jazz
Starting point is 00:30:11 plus the 2027 first round pick, top 40 pick, plus Will Warren, plus Chase Hampton. So it, and that's if you don't resign, you know, obviously. I don't know if the mayors would want to resign any of these guys. Probably Nico. Yeah. But you said, you said Horner, Ben Brown, and Jonathan Long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Long's kind of a first base only, so he's a tough fit, but. I really, I really like, I really like Jonathan Long, though. Yeah. He can hit. And he gets on base, too. He's a righty, too, right-hand hitter. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, heck, maybe, maybe Jonathan Long, and they just like, let's just make him to DH. I don't know. Yeah. So, yeah. But yeah, Jonathan Longkin really hit.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So he's, even though he doesn't fit very well, it's like, figure it out, figure it out. Yeah. He's just like, he's crushed every level he's been at. But yeah. So there you go. I don't think the Mariners would do any of this. No, no. Yeah, yeah. That's because they're cowards.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I want the Mariners to get uncomfort. And what I mean, I don't mean I want them to make a bad trade. I want them to be like, look, we don't want to trade George Kirby. And it's probably not going to look great that we do. But we ultimately believe that trading Kirby now makes us better in 2026, then we're willing to do that. Plus, we all know George Kirby's not signing an extension here, cut to three hours from now. But, you know, he's not signing an extension. He wants to leave.
Starting point is 00:31:43 So just headed off at the past. And by the way, next year, you trade them next year with two years left. That's kind of the sweet spot to trade guys. Yeah. But you're going to have a lockout all winter. So how much time is going to have? I think if you are trading him this winter, like it has to be something like the Brewer's deal where you're getting a short-term upgrade and the rotation and you're getting a long-term piece that you really, really, really like. Or are you trading for a cartel-a and you're just kind of like, I guess we'll see what happens here.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Wow. Yeah, yeah. I would like to see the Mariners get a little uncomfortable. and trade off their Major League roster, if it makes sense. I don't want them to just shut that off entirely. If they could find a trade where trading Bryce Miller makes sense,
Starting point is 00:32:25 they should consider that. Right now, I don't think they will. Just like they needed to get out of their comfort zone and go after rentals at the deadline, look how well that worked. Like, trust yourself, trust your valuations. So I would like to see them get a little more uncomfortable than they appear to be willing to do.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And no, that doesn't mean trading Ryan Sloan for Brennan. I'm not telling them to make bad trades. I'm telling them to make trades that make them a little uncomfortable. Take a shot because this is the time to do it. All right. That is going to do it for a show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Locktime Marries podcast, part of the Locktime Podcast Network, your team every day for Colby Pat.
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