Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Completing Updating the 3,000 Hit Club

Episode Date: May 21, 2020

Continuing the Locked On Mariners Party in the Panhandle, D.C. completes a project he accidentally started on the air last week: Seeing what the 3,000 hit club may have looked like if the 1981 & 1994/95 players' strikes never occurred. In the second half, he looks at some single seasons that were affected by the 1994/95 strike, and then looks at those players' career numbers to see what they may have been. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to Locked-on Maritors, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Here's your host, D.C. Lundberg. Trailers for sale or rent. Rooms to let 50 cents. I'm a man of means by no means. King of the road. I had to try that again, gang. Although I think my voice was a little messed up since I was singing along to David Lee Roth on the car trip over here.

and I sure hope we don't have to pay the Roger Miller estate any money for that. Anyways, this is Locked-on Mariners, part of the Locked-on podcast network, or TLOPPN, or Tlopin, brought to you by Built Bar. I am D.C. Lundberg, the king of the road of Tloppen, are partying the Panhandle soldiers on, and we are coming at you today on location in Plummer Idaho. Yes, Plummer Idaho, ladies and gentlemen, spelled the exact same way as the former Mariners Skipper. In fact, I'm coming at you today from a location on E Street. And I could not find Clarence Clemens or the rest of the band. To the handful of you chuckling, thank you.

To those of you going, whoa, look it up. And to the dozens undoubtedly rolling their eyes, it's comedy like that that got me where I am today. In any case, please remember to download rate and subscribe to this program on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher Radio, or whichever podcasting yet that you personally care to use. Ask your smart device. Play Lockdown Mariners podcast or Locked on Anything Podcast,

Any of the shows here on Tlopin. Follow this program on Twitter at L-O-U-U-U-S-Skore Maritors. Follow me on Twitter at D.C. underscore Lundberg, L-U-N-D-B-E-R-G, if you're scoring at home. We are wrapping up a project that I inadvertently started last week on the show, and that's updating the 3,000 hit club and projecting those players' totals to see what they may have looked like if the 1981 and 1994 players' strikes never happened. We have but two players to get to, so we'll finish in the first half of 10, today's show. In the second half, we're going to look at some more players who play through

1994 and see what their season totals may have looked like. Before we get to the final two members of the 3,000 hit club, I want to make a note about Derek Jeter, who did make his major league debut early in the 1995 season and has over 3,000 hits. He was called up at the end of May and was something of an injury replacement. Tony Fernandez had been the shortstop, but he got injured and it was slumping badly anyway. Then Kevin Elster took Fernandez's spot, but he slumped even worse, and the Yankees went with a rotation of Robert N Horn, Randy Vallardi, and Elster. But this didn't work out either, so they called up Jeter from AAA, but he played only

13 games before being sent down. So it's likely that he does not gain any games at the beginning of the season. Incidentally, his first big league game was in Seattle on May 29th, which also happened to be Memorial Day. His father had promised him that when he made his big league debut, that he would take him out to dinner. Well, the game went 12 innings and lasted just over four hours. Jeter wasn't able to leave the kingdom to meet his father until just about all the restaurants had closed, but they finally found a McDonald's that was open,

and Jeter's father kept his promise and took his son out to McDonald's to celebrate his first Major League game. The penultimate number of the 3,000 hit club will discuss, is my all-time favorite player, Cal Ripkin Jr. And he's kind of an interesting case. Obviously, he's got the 1994-95 strike, which cost him some games. But in 1981, he made his Major League debut the day play resumed following the strike. I can't help but imagine that he would have been called up after the All-Star break.

Well, he was called up after the All-Star break, but I'm talking about the originally scheduled All-Star break in July. The Orioles had 24 games scheduled after the All-Star break that were erased by the strike. Cal was used sparingly and appeared in 19 of the first 24 games after the season resumed, so I will apply those 19 games to mimic the 24 erased by the strike. Cal started only eight of those 19 games, only four hits and 36 at bats. He was used mainly as a late- inning defensive replacement, both at third base and shortstop, along with pinch running and pinch hitting duties, with the occasional start.

He hit 11-during the stretch and only hit 128 in the 23 games he played during that part-stop. season. Now for the 1994 strike. In 1994, his Baltimore Orioles got through 112 games before the strike ended the season, leaving 50 unplayed. I'm going to go out in a limb and say the Iron Man would have started all those games. I'm just glad it's an even number. In his final 50 games in the 1994 season, he collected 66 hits and 198 at bats. In his final 25 games, he got 35 hits and 102 at bats, so this double total of 70 is more favorable, and thus the one we're going to use. Interestingly, he hit two triples during this period, but only one home run. Now for 1995, and again, I'm going to be daring and say that he plays all 18 missing games

at the beginning of the season. I know that may be really going out on a limb, but something's telling me he wouldn't have missed any of these games. Anyways, the Iron Man games, 69 more at bats and 21 hits, accounting for both strikes. he gains a grand total of 309 at bats and 95 hits, bringing his hit total to 3,279, whose 276 batting average remains right where it is, and his home run total increases by 4,3, 3,1 to 435.

With the extra 62 games in 1994 and 1995, instead of breaking Lou Gehrig's consecutive games streak early in September, 1995, he would break the record on Saturday, July 1st, 1995. the road in Toronto against the Blue Jays. Although, honestly, I'm sure Major League Baseball would have scheduled the Orioles to be at home that day. Not against the Blue Jays since July 1st is Canada Day, and the Jays always play at home on Canada Day. So it's pretty much impossible to tell which team the Orioles would have been playing the day Cal broke the streak. Incidentally, he went 0 for 4 with a sack fly in that game against the Blue Jays,

but his Orioles did win 6 to 2 in the Skydome with Jamie Moyer beating Al. lighter. Now we'll wrap things up with the all-time hit king, Pete Rose. In his third year with the Phillies, he led the National League in hits in 1981 with 140. Let's see what happens when we account for the games missing in the middle of the season. This should be pretty interesting. His Phillies played 107 games, and Rose appeared in all of them. In fact, he started all of them. I have no trouble believing that Rose would have played all 55 missing games. Between 1974 and 1982, he missed a whopping two games, both of them in 1978. I'll take Rose's 28 games prior to the strike and his 27 games following the strike

and apply those games to the 55 missing games. In those 28 games leading up to the strike, Rose collected 32 hits and 110 at bats, a little off his overall season pace. In the 27 games following the strike, he got 39 hits and 114 at bats. hitting any 342 clip. Interesting to note, he does not gain a single home run during this time, although he hit 160 of them over his 24-year career, so long ball power really wasn't a part of his game.

Overall, he gains 224 ed bats and 71 hits. His career batting average stays right where it is, 303, and his hit total rises to 4,327. Well over 100 hits more than the man in second place, Ty Cobb. although Cobb kicks his butt in the batting average department, over 60 points higher than Rose. To recap the all-time hit list one final time, Pete Rose is on top. 4327. Ty Cobb's second place, 41-89.

Hank Aaron third place, 3771. Sanmuseuil, fourth place, 3630. Number five is Tris Speaker at 3514. Carl Yostremski, number six, 3466. Derek Jeter just won behind it, number 7, 3465. Number eight is Cap Anson, 3435. Number nine, Paul Molitor, 3423. That's an updated total.

Honest Wagner's 3420, and in 10th place, not an updated total. In 11th place, Eddie Murray, 3,400 even. 12th place, Eddie Collins, 3315. Number 13, Willie Mays, 3283. Number 14, Cal Ripkin Jr., 3279. Number 15 is Noplajoy or Noplajui, however you want to pronounce it. 3243, still a great player, no matter how you pronounce that difficult name. Number 16, and a very easy name, Tony Gwynn, 32, 39.

17 is George Brett, 3218. 18 is Albert Pujols, 322, but again, he's still an active player. He has a chance to leapfrog a bunch of players this season alone. 19 is Robin Yount at 3197. Number 20 is Dave Winfield. 318. 2 behind is Ricky Henderson at 3178 in 21st place. 22nd is Adrian Beltrae, 3166.

Paul Wainer's 3152 is good enough for 23rd place. 24th place is occupied by Craig Bezio at 3141. 25 is Alex Rodriguez at 3138. Let's take this time to note that he was busted for PEDs a couple of times. 26 place is Rod Carew, 3125. 27th place is another player who was by bused. for P.E. to use, Raphael Palmer, at 3,098. 28th place is Wade Boggs, 3,091. He is 2 ahead of Ichiro Suzuki at 3,089, who's in 29th place. 30th place is Lou Brock, 3,023. 31st place is Al-Kaline

in 3,07, and in 32nd place all time, Roberto Clementi at exactly 3,000 hits. That brings us to the Mariners trivia question. you remember the Memorial Day game at the Kingdom that I mentioned at the top of the show, Derek Jeter's Major League debut. The Mariners won that game 8 to 7, as I said in 12 innings. Who hit the game-winning home run to lead off the bottom of the 12th? Answer following a word from, this can't be right. A word from Attorney General Bill Barr?

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Locked-on Mariners. Once again, your host, D.C. Lundberg. Thank you, J.M. I have in my show notes here, sing second line of King of the Road, but my voice is shot, not only from doing two shows today, but for singing heavy metal on the way,

and I just don't have it anymore. In any case, King of the Road, great song. I just hope I don't get in trouble for singing copyrighted music, but whatever. It's a classic, and I will take this opportunity to ask you to go out and purchase whichever Roger Miller album you can find that has that particular song.

Hopefully that satisfies any representatives from ASCAP who may be listening. In any case, Lockdown Mariners has returned from Plummer Idaho today, and with the updated 3,000 hit club now in the books, there are a couple specific players I wanted to project out like this for a while,

not necessarily to see their career stats, but single-season stats. They played in 1994, and one of them, let's just say he had some outside help beginning at a certain time. I'll begin with that player, and that is Barry Bonds. I projected out his 1994 home run total to see what he may have done if the strike didn't claim the last part of the season. Since he was chasing Roger Maris' single-season home run record that year, but I'm also going to project out 1995, then cut his career off after 1998,

since 1999 was most likely when he began his HGH regimen. As evidenced by the fact that he showed up to spring training in 1999, almost 45 pounds heavier, all muscle, and two hat sizes bigger. And that's kind of a tip-off, wouldn't you say? Anyways, Bonds, as I said, was chasing Roger Maris's home run record in 1994, and last week I projected him for between 57 and 59 home runs. However, as I'm writing this, I realized a small flaw in the logic I use. last week. The Giants had 47 games remaining that were erased by the strike.

Bonds had played 97% of the Giants games up to that point, so I'd figure he'd play 46 of the remaining 47 games. He's chasing a home run record. There's no way he's going to set out a game until he gets that record. So he likely would have played all 47 remaining games. I still projected his home run total in both his final 46 games and his final 23 games doubled, and the larger sample size was more favorable. So for this projection, I will take his final 47 games to mimic the missing 47 games at the end of the giant season. Well, he still has 22 home runs for a season total of 59. His 1994 numbers now include a slash line of 320, 428, 680, 182 hits in 569 at bats, 102 walks, 18 intentional walks.

He led the National League in intentional walks from 1992 to 1990. He now has 125 RBI, 47 stolen bases, 13 caught stealings, 135 runs, and 387 total bases. Moving on to 1995, his slash line improves if we duplicate his first 18 games of the 95 season to account for the missing games at the beginning of the year. He played every single Giants game that year, so I have no problem saying that he played all of the missing games erased by the strike. He gains 63 at bats, 21 hits, two doubles, a triple, three home runs, 11 RBI, four stolen bases, and 17 walks.

His season slash line goes from 294, 431, 577, to 299, 436, 569. So his batting average and on-base percentage go up a little bit, while his slugging percentage drops, but not by much. He now has 35 home runs for this season with 115 RBI. So if we add these games into his career totals, then remove his tainting stats from 1999 onward, he winds up with a career slash line of 291, 412, 560, and a 972 OPS. He has 1,998 hits, including 435 home runs and 414 doubles. He drives in 1,271 runs, steals 467 bases, walks 1,402 times while striking out 1,0766 times.

also has 295 intentional walks, all this in 1,963 games played. I was going to do just one more player, the second half of this show, and that was going to be the Mariner's very own Ken Griffey Jr. I'm not so much worried about how the strike affected his numbers. I'm curious to see what his stats may look like if he never broke his wrist in 1995 or broke his hamate bone in 1996. But as I started diving into this with Junior, I realized that there were quite a few seasons in which he missed time due to injury, both in Seattle and Cincinnati, that I can get a whole show out of this. So I'm going to do that next week.

To wrap up this particular episode, I will look at some other Mariners who played through the 1994-95 strike and see what their numbers may have looked like if those seasons hadn't been shortened. I'll start with my all-time favorite mariner, Jay Buneer. In 1994, Bone played 101 of the 112 Mariners. games. Most of the games he missed came in early to mid-July, which looks like it may have been the result of an injury. Other than that string of games, he had three other days off. So I'll give him two more days off during the Mariners missing 50 games. The 24-game sample size is much kinder to bone than the 48-game sample size. So we'll take his final 24 games,

double those totals, and apply those to the Mariners' final games of the fictitious 1994 season. These added games, his 1994 slash line goes from 279, 394, 542, all the way to 293, 407, 556. He's almost a 300 hitter with his projection, and that 279 batting average he has in real life was already his career high. He gains a dozen home runs and goes up to 33, which would have been his first 30-plus home-run season. He gains 48 RBI, bringing this alternate universe total to 116, which would have been his first 100-plus RBI season. He now also has 100 walks, his exact same total from 1993, and he's four total bases away from 300 at 296.

Now for 1995, where he got off to a woefully slow start. He started 17 of the Mariners' first 18 games, so I'll take those 17 games and apply those to the erased games at the beginning. beginning of the season. He hit 243 during the stretch, and that's only because he had three big games towards the end of this time frame. He was hitting around 175 for most of it. Even with that hot end to the sample size, his overall slash line goes down from 262, 343, 566 to 259, 333, 541. He gains a whopping one home run for the season, giving him 41, and he gains a dozen RBI, going to 133. Accounting for the games erased in both seasons by the strike, his career slashline does improve from 254, 359, 494 to 256, 360, 495.

He now has 323 career home runs, gaining 13, and 1,025 RBI, gaining 65, so he's over a thousand RBI for his career now. We'll look at one more Mariner before I call it today and head home, and that'll be the 1995 American-link batting champion Edgar Martinez. Another player I'd like to see what may have happened to his career if he wasn't injured through 1993 and 1994. Maybe I'll delve into that next week as well, but for now I'll just worry about the strike.

Edgar played 89 of the M's 112 games in 1994, but he missed a string of games in April and a good two and a half weeks in May because of injury. His last day off was in mid-June. But with the Mariners out of contention, I'll give him two more days off. During the Mariners' final 50 games erased by the strike, Edgar wound up the season in a slump, and the 48-game sample size is more beneficial to him than the 24-game sample size. I will note that he hit just 237 in his final 24 games, and only 204 in his final dozen games.

Anyways, during the 48 game stretch we're using to project the final games of the 1994 season, Edgar hit 284, which was one point off his season ending batting average of 285. He gains 13 doubles and 9 home runs as well as 32 RBI. As far as his updated slash line, his batting average remains the same as on-base percentage drops a little bit, and his slugging percentage goes up. For the season, he hit 13 home runs, nine of which came during. the sample size we're applying to the end of the season. So his new season total is 22, which would have been his first 20-plus home-run season. Let's get to 1995, and this is the season I'm really curious about. I hope he got off to a hot start, says the guy writing the script,

who hasn't bothered to look at Edgar's Game-by-game 1995 register yet. Anyways, Edgar played every single Mariner game in 1995, so we'll also say he plays all 18 of the games erased by the strike. Now to see what he did in those first first. to 18 games. And I see that he hit 367 during that stretch, so he is going to gain points on his batting average. What a relief. Well, actually, considering

it's so few games, he may gain one point, if any, but it's not going down. As I plug the numbers into the handy-dandy spreadsheet I created for this, his 1995 batting average does in fact go up to one point by 357. His on-base percentage goes down two points, however, but he

gains six points on a slugging percentage. His new slash line is 357, 477, 634. He gains four home runs for a new total of 33, his first season with 30 or more, and gains seven doubles for a new total of 59. Wow. He's also now got 127 RBI for 1995 and 200, four hits,

which would have been his only season with 200 or more. For his career, he now has 320, home runs, one fewer than Jay Buhner's updated total. He loses a point off his batting average and on base percentage, but gains a point on a slugging percentage, so his OPS remains the same. I may try to play with 1993 and 1994 some more next week, as those were injury-plagued.

But that's going to do it for today. Tomorrow we're going to put the party in the panhandle on hold and instead present to you the Diamond Quiz episode of Champions, The three winners from the three previous games, Taylor Blake Ward of Lockedon Angels, Paul Sully Sullivan of Locked on MLB, and Jeff Snyder of Locked on Dodgers, will all be backed to defend their championships. Please remember to download, rate, and subscribe to Lockedon Mariners on Google Podcast, Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher Radio, or whichever podcasting app that you can think of.

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