Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Do the Mariners Need to Do Something About Bryce Miller?

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

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Another game, another Marriss starter, unable to go deep. We'll talk about what happened last night coming up here on the Lockdown Marrars podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors. It is Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025.

This is Taddy Gazzalus and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marys podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. And as always, if you're not a week, you know, you want to hear from me and Colby even more and help support the show, you can check out our Patreon. All you have to do to check that out is click the link in the description of this episode. So we're going to talk about last night's eight to three loss to the Red Sox, get you stuff for tonight's game. Maybe talk a little bit about tomorrow's game as well, because we'll catch you guys after that one on the lockdown Mara's post game show. But I want to start talking

about Bryce Miller, just four and two thirds for Miller. Second time in three games, a mara starter has been unable to go even five innings and their respective start for earn runs on five hits four strikeouts four walks ton of hard contact against miller perhaps the most concerning thing here though is that obviously you know he had divulged to the media a couple of weeks ago that he's been dealing with some arm soreness here at the start of the year um that led to his start being cut kind of short in Cincinnati his last time out the mayor has let him go 100 pitches in this one and in the final inning of work for miller we see a lot of 93 on the fastball and even some 92 after he was 95 96 to start the game uh saw 92.9 92.9. 92 and a half 92.3 that is not where you want to see price miller at all how concerned are you about that? At this point, slightly, it's interesting, you know, because in his last start, they purposely short-scripted him. He only threw 78 pitches through five innings. And, you know, if Bryce was 100%, he would have gone out there for the sixth. And, you know, with the way Bryce is capable of pitching, he might have gone out there to start the seventh. So that was very obviously a choice made to try and help Bryce along with his soreness.

And then yesterday, though, for some reason, he entered the start of the fifth inning at around 75 pitches. So he was right at about the mark. They took him out of the game last time. And he was able to maintain his velocity for the entirety of that start. And this time he got to around 80, 85 pitches, and the velocity started to drop pretty significantly. And so it's a weird decision to me for the Mariners to put him back out there, you know, when they literally just short scripted him the start before, and it was his best start of the year. So I'm not quite sure what the plan is here, but obviously Bryce, his velocity dropping pretty

significantly after that 80 pitch mark, you know, that seems to be when the Velo troubles really start to set in for him. So that could be a sign that he's progressing because earlier in the season, he was sitting 93 mostly throughout his entire start, but maybe now he's, you know, he's able to be 95, 96, through about 80 pitches, you know, give or take. So maybe that's a positive sign. But yeah, I think it's a little bit worrisome. But I'm still more worried about the lack of control and command.

Four walks, Bryce Miller is a ridiculously high number, especially in only four and two or four in a third. Four and two or whatever it was. That's a really high number. And you just watch the game. I believe that the final tally was that he was, he threw a first pitch strike to only eight of like the 24 hitters he faced. Like that's not going to work.

You have to get ahead. It is a core tenant of being a Mariners pitcher that you work ahead. You throw first pitch strikes. You should be aiming for around 66 percent, about two-thirds of the hitters. You want to be throwing first pitch strikes too. He hasn't done that. And when you watch the game last night and you look at what he did, he was missing with the fastball a lot and it was up.

it was again he struggled with this in Cincinnati he couldn't quite find that top rail which is where he likes to be with the fastball this this night he was he was way up like he was missing badly up so it's one of those things right now i'm much more concerned about the control and the command but the the lack of control and command of the fastball as well as the velo of the fastball uh does point to somebody who is really uh working through something right now and and you have to start to wonder at what point is there a diminishing return here of asking Bryce to go out there and essentially pitch at, you know, 75% like at what point are you better off just giving him a couple of weeks to see if he can fully heal and going with, you know, Logan Evans. I think we're

reaching that point. You don't want to do it because Hancock and Evans and the rotation at the same time is a disaster scenario. But at some point, the overall health and long-term future of Bryce has to come into play here. So I'm not quite sure what the Mariners plan is because it seemed to me like if you're going to short script him in the previous start and get him out at about the 75, 80 pitch mark, you would want to do that again this time around. And instead, they pushed him to get another extra, what, get three outs possibly?

and only go five, and instead, in the process, they essentially end up punting the game. And now again, there's no guarantee that the relievers would have gotten the guys out, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But it just to me, it speaks to this kind of like, what is the plan with Bryce Miller? Is he, are you pushing him to 100 pitches so that you can see? Was the plan to short script him in Cincinnati in order for him to, ideally, give you length in Boston? Is that the idea? I don't think it works that way.

I don't think that's a good way to look at it though, because you don't, you never know, right? Like expecting a starting pitcher to give you this in his next outing. So you're going to, you know, gamble on what he's currently doing.

I think that's pretty stupid. So I don't know what the Mariners plan is here. And did he have the extra days rest? He didn't in Cincinnati But this time around he did So like is that maybe why Yeah I don't I don't know But it was very clear to anybody watching that game

That Bryce was gassed when he went out there to start the fifth inning It was clear so there's something going on with Bryce Again we don't know exactly what it is It's some kind of soreness But it very clearly seems to be impacting him at around the it really hitting him right now at around the 80 pitch mark

and it looks like they identified that in his previous start and in this start they were just like yeah too bad so like I just don't Maybe they were just trying to see how much they could push him that is such a risky play like I know at some point you have to try that

but like yeah it's what it's two to one game at that point like it's the fifth inning you just had an off day the bullfin is well rested again take advantage of the off days while you can because pretty soon you're not going to have them every week and i just i don't know it's weird to me what their plan is i'm a little bit concerned about bryce just because uh it does seem that like a the velo is going to drop significantly

every time he gets to around the 75 pitch mark at least that's what it's been so far but also b he's just not throwing it strikes like four walks for brys miller is it might as well be eight like that is an absurd number for him. And he's not getting ahead of guys. And he's not really finishing them off right now. So, I mean, he had 11 whiffs yesterday. And he got whiffs on the splitter and the slider. But the four seamer and the two seamer just been god awful for him this year.

So it's another one of those games for a marist starter where even when you're getting some Ks, it's taking forever to get them. And guys are fouling off so many pitches. They're making contact on so many pitches. I just I kind of wonder if they need to employ a similar strategy here with Bryce that they did with Brian Wu last year when he was dealing with some arm fatigue. And that either involves, you know, maybe it's not bad enough to put him on the IL, but maybe it involves, you know, more short scripted starts or maybe even skipping a start here and there. Or you could utilize the opener. Yeah.

Or piggyback Logan Evans with him. him for a start or something like that. Because right now you're carrying an extra guy in the bullpen that you don't need to be carrying. Yeah. That guy could be designated to be like basically the co-starter with Bryce Miller. Yeah, I mean, Lowe has been starting down in AAA. Maybe that's what you do.

I mean, you could, or you could do it with a veteran like Casey Lawrence or Jesse Hahn. So it doesn't necessarily have to be Logan Evans. If you want Evans to continue to pitch six, seven innings down in Tacoma in the event that he does, need to take a rotation spot at some point, fine. But I think you need to have a reliever on your roster that is capable of going, you know, two, three innings to kind of piggyback off Bryce. And so maybe it's, hey, like, Bryce isn't going to start, but he's going to be the bulk guy. So because we think we can get maybe four or five out of Bryce, we're going to ask, you know,

it could be Lao. But I think in theory, you want a good reliever to be opening for you because he's going to face the top of the order. So either you short script Bryce on the back end or you use an opener at the beginning, play the matchup for the first couple hitters and then Bryce comes in. Either way, I think they have to do something here because Bryce is struggling to compete right now. And it's one of those things. The walks are a big red flag. The lack of first pitch strikes is a big red flag. The Velo dropping when it did kind of makes sense to me, but it's still a bit of a red flag. So yeah, I think at some point when we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,

getting close like yeah you don't want to have you know a couple of four a pitchers in your rotation at the same time but you might not have a choice like you price's health is critical to the long term success of this team and that means you have to you know eat it for a couple weeks then maybe that's just the best thing to do so the bearers were obviously led down by their rotation once again last night but they also weren't particularly great and the other two facets of their team either we're going to talk about the offense. We're going to talk about the bullpen, specifically Trent Thornton, coming up here in just a moment. But first a reminder of this episode of the lockdown

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Plus, use promo code SH5 for 5% off your first order. That's supplyhouse.com. And you're listening to the Locked-on Marriss podcast. Brian Bayo got off to a pretty rough start in his season debut for the Red Sox last night. Jorge Polanco goes yard off of him to give the Marys an early 1-0 lead. And Cal Raleigh walks. And then Rainier Rosa Rana and Luke Raylor are both hit by pitches, loads of the bases with one out. And then Rowdy Tellez, the hero of the Toronto series grounds into a 363 double play.

Yeah. Oh, or 361, 361 double play. Yeah. They did have another shot a little later on against Bayo that they weren't able to take advantage of after what, Julio's double, right? Down the right field line. Couldn't come through in that situation either. They were able to get a couple of runs off of Justin Wilson on a bloop single off the bat of J.P. Crawford, who continues to find some success. at the plate.

But overall, pretty yucky game for the, for the offense. Pretty yucky game in general for the mayor is just across the board from, you know, the Miller start to what the offense did or rather did not do. And then the bullpen, which we'll talk about in a second. But what did you think about the mayor's offensive night? Yeah, felt like the first week of April. It was a there. Yeah.

last week of March, first week of April, the first home stand. Lots of traffic. Lots of traffic. Couldn't find the big hit you needed to keep you in this game. And you're playing in Fenway Park. You have to get the big hit. You have to.

Like, leaving the bases loaded is not an option because you're not going to win games at Fenway Park three to two. Just not going to happen, especially when you're starting pitching struggling like it is right now for the Mariners. You have to get multiple runs in those situations. And the Mariners have plenty of base runners. They had six walks. They had two hit by pitches.

You know, they had three or two doubles. They had a homer. Like, everything was there for them to find success and score a lot of runs and give them a chance to win this game. But they only came through with six hits. They only had a 29% hard hit rate. They only had eight hard hit balls in the entire game. And this was not the best of the Red Sox that you were facing here. This is, you know, again, it's Brian Bay.

making his major league debut or his season debut. You know, it's Garrett Whitlock and it's Liam Hendricks. It's Justin Wilson. Like, this is not the murderer's row. And they had opportunities throughout this game to get back into it. And they really didn't. You know, aside from JP's two RBI single, the Mariners didn't get a single hit they needed to get to have an opportunity to win this game.

And they had some really bad at bats in those situations as well. And that's pretty much across the board. So, yeah, what's really frustrating about the offense right now is that managers essentially can force Dan Wilson to take out his better hitters for some of his worst hitters simply by going to any left-handed pitcher. Like, not even doesn't have to be a good one. You know, and as a result, you end up with somebody like, as a result, you end up with somebody like Luke Rayleigh leaving the game because, God forbid he faces Justin Wilson in the sixth. And now Donovan Solano is taking out bats in the ninth inning. And no disrespect to Solano.

He's been terrible. He's been your worst hitter this year. So it's one of those things where the offense, they created traffic. They generated traffic. They didn't strike out yesterday either. This is not one of those games where, you know, oh, they struck out 18 times. And that's why, no, they only struck out five times yesterday. But they didn't get the big hit they needed.

And they'd never really even, you can't even say that it was bad Babbitt block. It wasn't. They didn't hit the ball hard. They didn't earn those hits. So, yeah, it was just one of those nights where, like, the opportunity was there. Yeah. And it was there frequently. And Seattle just couldn't get it done.

They couldn't find the big hit they needed. They really couldn't string hits together. They didn't get the big homer that they've been getting lately. So, yeah, it's one of those things. It's a bit of a feast or famine offense. And last night, it was famine. because they had plenty of opportunities and they let them all get off the hook.

They let Bossie get off the hook all night and it costs them the game. Yeah, interesting contrasts that you brought up there. Just, you know, the five strikeouts, like you mentioned, they only score three runs. Their previous game, they strike out 18 times, they score eight. Yep. Like, strikeouts suck, but strikeouts are also not a death knell.

they don't have to be i got another number for you colby 50% you know what that is in zone contact that would be trent thornton's home run to fly ball rate this year yay yeah uh trend thornton right now is tied with george soriano of the marlins and risel eglacius of the braves as the um least valuable reliever in all of baseball qualified or not by fan grafts war negative 0.5 and dan wilson continues to use him in um close games whether the mayors have the lead or they're trying to keep things close uh and now there's been you know a couple of instances like in toronto where he was able to get through his his inning to work just fine uh but there have been so many blowups already from Thornton this year.

So many home runs. Again, 50% of the balls that get lifted in the air against him are going over the wall. It's obviously a short sample or a small sample, but that's just too much. I think they should designate Trent Thornton for assignment. I'm just going to say it. I think his time in Seattle should be over.

Yeah. you know, we've seen Trent pitching high leverage spots this year and fail. We've seen them pitching mid-leverged spots and fail. We've seen them pitching low-leverage spots and get blown up. Like, it's one of those things that right now there is no scenario where you feel comfortable using this guy. And, you know, after a, you know, it's four to three. You just score two runs. And it's a ball game again.

And at Fenway, anything can happen. And you go to Trent and he's facing, you know, the bottom half of the order, what have you and a middle bottom part of the order and he fails like epically like it's one of those like it goes from this is a game that we can win to this game is over and it takes in the span of what four hitters for that to be the case yeah and you know being down by one in the bottom of the seventh it's not exactly high leverage but it's an important role you have to keep the game right there and you if you can get back into the dugout quickly momentum is kind of one of those that's a little bit overrated.

It's not quantifiable. But, like, again, you just put up the two. Now it's a one-run game. Now you've got six outs to work with. You're feeling pretty good. It's Fenway. Anything can happen. And then just like that, it's over.

And it doesn't matter what role Thornton has pitched in this year. He's been good in a couple of outings, but he has cost you leads and wins and comeback opportunities in every other. There is no middle ground. either he's been good in his outings or he has actively worked against you to lose the game. And there's just no play. You cannot give up home runs of your relief pitcher.

You cannot do it. It's the one thing you cannot, I'd rather you walk guys than give up home runs as a reliever because there's not enough time in the game for you to get those runs back when you give up homers. Yep. And so Thornton right now having a 50% home run to fly ball, is it's not major league quality.

He is not a major league quality pitcher right now. Again, I don't know. Can you phantom IL him and give him a rehab assignment? Maybe. But yeah, I just think right now you look at it. There's no situation in which I trust Trent Thornton to pitch well in. And if that's the case, I don't need them here. It's the highest home run to fly ball rate of any reliever, any qualified reliever in baseball

right now, well, tied with Hunter Biggie of the raise. Very distant third place, and there's a bunch of guys tied for this, 33.3%. So a third of the time. But Trent right now, half of the flyballs against him are going over the wall. Some major, major. Yeah, this isn't a case where he's, you know, making good pitches and he's getting, no, he's piping these pitches. Like, look at all the home runs. These are pitches that are hanging curveballs or their fastballs down the middle of the plate.

like these are not on the corners and oh that's a really good piece of hitting what are you going to do like no he is piping fast balls and curve balls down the middle of the plate and he's getting destroyed. There's also been a couple of instances where he's gotten away with it. Yeah. Right like the the the home run fly ball rate and just overall

home run numbers could look even worse. That's that's really the problem here. Like we could even be looking at something like this isn't even as bad as it could be. Imagine if he hadn't, you know, pitched a couple of outings in Seattle because he should have surrendered another homer to Brent Rooker. I remember that and that was a fastball right down the pipe.

Yeah. And, you know, Marine layer and wind knocked it down and kept it in the ballpark. But like, yeah, he's just down the middle of the plate right now. And again, if I can't trust you to do anything but mop up duty, there's no reason for you to be on this roster. Yeah. You're not one of the, you're not one of the, you know, eight best relief arms. And I know the mariners have already.

kind of had to cycle through their depth because Santos was bad and, you know, obviously Brash isn't back yet and Taylor hasn't quite figured it out, blah, blah, blah, but like, I don't care at this point. I trust Jesse Hahn and Casey Lawrence more than I trust Trent Thornton right now. And that's a problem. So if I would prefer to have the 38-year-olds who are career minor leaguers pitching in these spots over you, you don't belong in my bullpen. And Trent Thornton is a guy who, you know,

I love the friendship that him and sauce have. They made some great videos. And Thornton has been a good reliever for Seattle. He's been a good pickup for them for most of his tenure. High energy, dude, all that. Yeah, but this is, yeah, you got to keep a push. It's not personal. Well, when it comes to bullpins too, you have to keep it pushing, right?

And you have to make decisions pretty quick on guys. And, you know, unfortunately with Thornton, you know, he doesn't have a minor league option left. so you just you have to move on right if you had an option left i wouldn't be like oh yeah you need to dfah him i would just you know just send him down let him work through things but that's unfortunately not an option available to you right now so there's a a decent chance that he would clear and then he could accept an assignment to the miners so you could df a and still keep him in the org it's possible i mean two million dollars isn't a lot but for a reliever struggling like trent you know it's not

something that somebody's absolutely going to snap up. So it is a bit of a risk. You'd rather have Thornton in the org, but you need him in AAA right now, not the big leagues, and that's just not an option without, you know, exposing him to waivers. Yeah. So again, I just, I think his time in Seattle probably should be over. It's just, it's too much of a risk right now. Every time you put him out there, I feel uneasy.

And the fact that he's getting put into close games, whether they're trailing or they're leading terrifies me. And I think that says more about the state of the mayor's bullpen than than about Trent. But as far as as as far as Trent goes, I just I can't trust you dude. I can't. No, I mean like you trust Carlos Vargas and Edward Bizarro right now more than you do, Trent Thornton.

And I don't trust those guys a lot right now. Right. And so that just speaks to how poorly he's pitching. And again, it's not a personal thing. It's not a personal attack on Trent. He's just not a majorly quality pitcher right now. And you know what? You know what might happen? You might DFA him and he might get picked up and he might be fine.

You might be Trent Thornton again. And that's going to suck. But that's the business. That's the reality of the sport. And again, you just. That's for you. Yeah. And you just have to keep a pushing when it comes to pull pens.

And just figure something else out. So yeah. All right. Well, let's switch gears here. Let's talk a little bit about tonight's game, tomorrow's game, in just a moment. But first a reminder of this episode of the lockdown marriage podcast is brought to you by wonderful pistachios. Looking for a snack that's both delicious and nutritious. Crack into a good source of protein with wonderful pistachios.

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Marrera's podcast. Marry's looking to keep their series win streak alive tonight. Emerson Hancock taking the bump at Fenway Park against Sean Newcomb. I think you know what our answer is to the question if Hancock can do it again. If we think that he can do it again, I'll say this. Okay. No. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. Now, I'll say this. if he is going to do it again, he has to do exactly what he did in Cincinnati, right? Which is limit hard contact, keep the ball on the ground. That's how Emerson Hancock wins at the major league level.

That's how he survives. He has to do that. Better word. Yeah. Yeah. On the plus side, though, on the plus side, with Newcomb on the mound, it means Donovan Solano is going to be in the lineup.

It means Mr. Garland is going to be in the lineup. Lori Polanco. So I mean, heck, maybe even no J.P. Crawford, even though he's totally fine against lefties and is, you know, you're probably your second best hitter right now. He'll play. He'll play. Yeah, you will because they give him the back-to-back days off. But yeah, so good news. You're getting the B lineup tonight in addition to Emerson Hancock getting the start because God forbid we let Luke Rayleigh face a bad left-handed pitcher. Oh, no.

He might go 0 for 3 like Donovan Solano is probably going to go. like, oh, that would be terrible. So yeah. So in addition to having Hancock, pitching probably the worst ballpark possible for him to pitch in, you're also going to be running out of B lineup because, you know, God forbid Routy Tellez, who doesn't have any splits issues,

God forbid Luke Rayleigh, faces a bad lefty in favor of Donovan Solano, who's been bad against everybody right now. That being said, if you're going to have Solano, and you're going to try and make this work, He should be in the lineup tonight. So, yeah, we'll see how it goes.

I mean, you would hope. I mean, now at the end of the game, they could pinch it all their good hitters instead of starting all their good hitters. Sure. You know what's funny, though? Emerson Hancock's two best starts of his career might be at Great American Ballpark and Coorsfield.

Yeah. Yeah. So maybe, maybe. Maybe there's something about the environment that he's like extra sharp and i don't know like all i need from emerson tonight is if you can go five or six and give up four runs or less i will be ecstatic about that fenway is cursed man by the way so i finally figured out when the last time they won a series of fenway was it was 2014

it wasn't like three or four years ago like i initially said last or on last episode it's been over 10 years since they won a series at this place i think i saw somebody maybe they tweeted at us maybe I think it said that Seattle is like three and 15 in their last 18 at FNway like or four it for something like that like

yeah so this place just sucks for the Marys to play at and the Red Sox are really good that offense is really good yeah the offense is good yeah the offense is really freaking good especially at Finway like it's built yeah yeah which but like dude like when the

The lineup turns, especially if you allow Raphaela on base and he's, he's just like an automatic stolen base pretty much, whether you're keeping an eye on him or not, really, that dude's speed is just insane. And then you turn the page and it's Duran Devers Bregman. Like, oh, Devers isn't even hitting right now. And Story is hitting right now.

Yeah. Well, you're going to a great start. Like, dude, that line is nice because Devers, again, isn't even hitting right now. And he's probably your best hit. Yeah. So yeah. Although once you get past crochet, I'm not terribly worried about their rotation.

Not that it's not fine. They have like solid arms. They don't have like, Euler's a good arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cutter Crawford when he comes back as a solid arm. But yeah, that team is definitely good enough to,

you know, be a World Series contender and they are. But yeah, that team is built for Fenway Park. The Mariners are built for the literal opposite. Yeah, this is, yeah, this is the work i think this might be the worst matchup for the marries i think so too then wisconsin city uh and apparently Detroit because why not uh but yeah and by the way some of you

need to listen on your act you need to work on your active listening skills i didn't say that houston had a better ballpark than fenway i'd said i'd rather be playing in houston because the mariners play well there and this fenway park sucks because the mariners suck there yes i also said it you know, historical landmark status, but no, apparently, no, God, no, I just hate Fenway Park. I do hate Fenway Park because the Mariners can't win there. That's why I hate Fenway Park. Yes. Listen.

I also think it's, I've said this before and I'll say this again. People need to listen to me. It's also kind of a Mickey Mouse ballpark. It is. It absolutely is. It's kind of a clown show. Like the green monster, then the, the, you know, the triangle. Yeah, yeah.

And then like the short port. Like, it saved me the history lessons I know. Well, it's built into the footprint of an ancient, blah, blah, blah,

yeah, yeah, I get it. I understand. I'm not an idiot. Okay, I'm well versed in baseball history. That ballpark is a Mickey Mouse ballpark.

It is a Little League ballpark that is all the history you could ever want. And I'm pretty sure I put it in my top 10 when we had this whole discussion over Oracle part as well. So like, you people need to listen to me. We also did say that it's the most overrated ballpark. I stand by that. And I stand by that as well.

Yeah. Because you strip away the history. It's kind of a ballpark that's just ancient. Like it looks and feels like an old. It's such as it's the the dimensions of the field. I'm sure like the experience of going there is amazing. Oh, I absolutely still want to go. Yeah.

Yeah. But the the just talking about the field itself, the dimensions of the ballpark, it's a joke. It's so dumb. It's so silly. And again, we get it. They had to put it into the footprint of, you know,

1,900 Boston. Like, we understand. And it's perfectly built to be on this one little city block. So they had to kind of, you know, mess around with the dimensions, blah, blah,

we get it. Okay, we understand. Yeah. Just pure aesthetics, like strip away everything, except for how the ballpark looks, it's overrated.

Yeah, so, and it's been again, it's been an absolute nightmare for the Marriss to play in. So here's to hoping we get Coorsfield and Great American Ballpark Emerson Hancock tonight. All right. Well, that is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Locktime Marrace podcast. Colby Patnode. I'm Tadang Gazzalas. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L.O. underscore Marrars.

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