Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Do the Mariners NEED to Make Roster Moves After Rough Time in Boston?

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

After back-to-back embarrassing losses, Mariners fans are demanding changes. But what changes could actually be made and how much would they actually help? Colby and Ty explain why Bryan Woo or Emerson Hancock isn't the answer for Seattle right now and rank the five current starters in the Mariners rotation going forward!Help us out by filling out our survey!Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11SorareHead to sorare.com/lockedon to draft your free team of player cards, set your lineup, and start competing today to win epic rewards.BirddogsToday's episode is brought to you by Birddogs. Go to birddogs.com/lockedonmlb and when you enter promo code, LOCKEDONMLB, they’ll throw in a free custom birddogs Yeti-style tumbler with every order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

After a promising win on Monday, Fenway Park turned back into a house of horrors for the Mariners on Tuesday and Wednesday. We'll tell you if these games merits some sort of response from Seattle's front office and more on today's episode of the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network. Your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors.

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The link as well as our social accounts is also in the description of this episode. And on this episode, we'll discuss whether or not the disaster of the last two days for the Mariners merits any sort of action. from the Mariners front office as in roster moves. Should they make any? If so, who? That's coming up a little later on. But first, Colby, I'll just start by asking you this. What in the world happened last night?

I mean, Marco was terrible and kind of the one ballpark, he can't be terrible against the team that really isn't a good matchup for him anyways, in a ballpark that really isn't a good matchup for him. I mean, Marco's a fly ball pitcher. in a ballpark where fly balls usually turn into doubles and home runs. So yeah, it went about as well as you might expect when Marco doesn't have his good command and he doesn't have his best change up. And he's facing that lineup in that ballpark.

Like, yeah, that was always a possibility. You know, fortunately, look, it's tough to say like the bullpen kept you in it when you're down eight to nothing, nine nothing. but you know they went what seven and two thirds gave up three three or four so yeah it's just one of those games jerry's talked about this openly that like yeah you know what marco's gonna have some duds like it's going to happen he's going to get hit around a few times and unfortunately last night was one of those and also unfortunately it happened to be in the rubber match of of your series so yeah i don't think it's much more than marco wasn't good last

night. And that's that. I mean, you know, look, obviously you only scored three runs in Fenway. That's not great. Didn't even generate a ton of traffic. But remember, you know, you were some, you know, the weather last night in Boston was terrible. The wind was blowing straight in from right field. It was cold. And as a result of that, you know, Taylor Tremel gets robbed of a three run home run pretty early. And all of a sudden, you put that on the board. And you're looking at they scored six runs. You know, stuff happens. So, yeah, it was bad. There's no doubt about it.

It was one of Marcos duds, and it's going to take them a long time to chip away at that. But, you know, it's part of baseball. It's part of the game. Every single team in the league will lose a game like that last night, like that last night. And, you know, the Mariners, unfortunately kind of feels like they did it back-to-back nights, but it is what it is. Like, it's a bummer. It's annoying.

thankfully you have a really well-timed off day today so the bullpen shouldn't be any issues after they had to carry last night's performance and you know you are going to go you are going to go with what Gilbert Miller and and Kirby against Atlanta they should give you some depth or some distance in their start so yeah overall just really bad Marco last night and it's ugly to watch when he's like that. And he pretty much kills any chance you have winning that game. But it happens, man. It happens to every team throughout the year.

And, you know, it's not just Marco who will have these bad blow-up starts. And yeah, I just sounds like a cop out. Maybe it is, but it's baseball. You're going to get your, you know, you're going to get your teeth caved in on the occasional night, just like Boston did in game one. And so it's a bummer, but it is the reality of the situation. And now you have a much needed off day before you start a three game set against probably the best team in the National League, maybe in all of baseball. So again, not ideal that you're going in there with a two game losing streak because it's not hard to imagine this turning into a five game losing streak.

But you got game one. You're going to have you're going to throw probably the three arms you trust the most right now against the best team in the, in the National League. And you see what your offense can do. It's been a little bit better over the last two weeks or so. So actually a lot better over the last two weeks. And just kind of go from there. You have to flush it.

You have to move past it. And, you know, if there's anything that Mariner fans should be familiar with, it's how dumb run differential is and how misleading it is. So back-to-back, bad games took a bite out of their run differential. Who cares? It's two losses, whether you lose four to three or 12 to three. Like it's the same thing. Right.

Fun differential on the other hand though, not as high as you would like to be. Yeah, it took a pretty big hit last night. Yeah, it took a pretty big hit. I was pretty surprised that we didn't see a position player pitch in this game for the Marriers. But yeah. I mean, who are you willing to risk losing by throwing out there? True, true. The good thing on the Brave series, and we'll talk more about the Brave series on tomorrow's show, but you're going to miss Spencer Strider.

so that's great great news oh darn I really wish that we could have seen Spencer Shredder pit dang oh well guess I'll just have to settle for watching him against another team that's not my favorite baseball team darn

it's just sucks Julio would have gone four for four with four bombs off of that slider there's just no question about it really before we move on I want to ask you about Colton Wong because you haven't been here the last couple days for the last couple of post-game shows, rather. So Wong obviously had a rough night on Tuesday.

Just what's your general feel on him right now? And what happened on Tuesday? So yeah, Tuesday was a rough night, mostly defensively. So, yeah, and that's really been the bigger issue here. Is that Wong for the first half of April was terrible, second half of April pretty darn good. Then he gets hurt. Obviously, jams his wrist on what was that, May 6th, I think.

And he's pretty bad at the plate since then. It's pretty easy to draw a correlation there, although he did have a nice double in Finway, and a couple hard hit balls in each of his last few games. So overall, I feel like the bat is probably going to get there at some point. But defensively, yeah, you know, it's been pretty rough. We saw him have the down year last year, and this year hasn't looked a, ton better. It's mostly it's it's it's not even really range really. It's just mental mistakes.

It's dropping, you know, it's dropping balls essentially, which is a lot worse than, you know, just having, you know, less range because that you can kind of cover up. But if you can't catch, that's kind of half your job. So yeah, Wong's in a rough place right now. Jerry DePoto already came out this morning and said that they're going to use cabbiera a little more against Rydis. So to me, that kind of points to the Mariners not thinking that Wong is going to get back defensively to where he was or anywhere near where he was. Because that's a pretty pointed statement coming from the general manager to the public. But what I do think we might see, though, is Colton Wong DH a little bit more because, again, it's not great. but what Wong is done for the last, you know, three, three weeks or so, give or take, at the plate,

probably should warrant him staying in the lineup somehow. And if it's not going to be at second base, because you want to play caviaro, the DH spot is available. And it doesn't have to be every single day. It could be, you know, two, three, four times a week, kind of play matchups there. But yeah, you know, Wong, I do think the bat's going to get there eventually. And I still think that he's going to have a role on this team. I just think that, you know, rather than it being the 500 playoff, appearance second baseman it's going to be more of a strict platoon and it's it's not going to be

just based on hand in this it's going to be based on matchup and stuff like that so we'll see how it we'll see how it plays out but you know it's at this point i feel bad for colton wong just because it just feels like it's snowballing on top of them right now and he's so excited to get back to the to the west coast and and to play for seattle um it's just a bummer but the the club's got to do what the club's got to do and right now cabbiero is you easily the best second baseman defensively on this roster and probably the best bat for now. But again, I would caution people. If Jose Cabriero is the starting second basement for the remainder of this year,

your ball club's probably not that good. Right. Unless he continues to hit, which I mean, he's doing that right now. Even last night, even last night had a what, a couple hits,

one hit, something like that. But he can take a walk. Yeah, he's just, he keeps on doing stuff every time. time he gets put in the game. So right.

But again, just keep him on how long does it. Yeah. He's been here for five minutes. Yeah. In the grand scheme of things. Yeah. How long does that continue? I mean, he's obviously been a minor league performer, but he also wasn't able to crack

the major leagues until 27 years old. So, right. He, he has a lot of Sam Hagridi qualities in him. Sure. And what did we see last year from Haggurty? Look like a legitimate starting player for about a month. Leaks started to get a book on him. He started to play over every.

day got over exposed and now. So we'll see. I like Cabby a lot though. So he kind of, I think has the exact attitude you want on this team right now. He's got a little bit of fire to him. Obviously, he does a lot of things well. It works counts really well.

He runs the bases really well. He can play up the middle really well. So he's a good player, good player, good useful player. I just don't think you should be counting on him to play every day unless you're counting on your ball club to be 500 or worse. Cabbiero is a little bit of, you know what disturber and I like it I like it stir that pot a little bit yeah yeah yeah loves to poke bear just a little just a little just a smedge all right so I want to talk about

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There needs to be some sort of change put in place because this was embarrassing the last two nights, which, hey, it was, it sucked. It was bad. But also, you've won a lot of games lately as well. So it's not, this feels like more of a bump in the road rather than an indication of anything really else. but do you agree with the sentiment that there needs to be changes made roster-wise, particularly on the back end of the roster? Or do you think things should just stay how they are right now?

So here's my thing with this conversation. Be specific. If you want to pitch a change, you need to come with names and specifics. You can't, well, they have to do something. I don't know what, but they have to do something. No, that's not good enough because you're calling for, and this is a good, you know, I see this a lot. You're calling for people to be DFAed. You're calling for people to be sent back to the minors. And like, this is, this is serious stuff. So if you can't come with like a real suggestion, just don't make one.

That being said, yeah, there are some small tweaks that they can make. And it's not going to be what people want to hear, though. because I'm not going to sit here and tell you to call it Brian Wu for Marco Gonzalez. I'm not going to tell you to DFA Marco Gonzalez. I'm not going to tell you to call up Emerson Hancock. The issue with those two guys in particular, Wu and Hancock, by the way, Brian Wu had another amazing outing last night. Certainly it looks like a major league pitcher right now. The issue is that Brian Wu coming into this year, I think had 55 professional innings.

He is definitely on some kind of innings count. And you want to be able to control that. You can't really do that at the major league level. You want him to get innings and you want him. You want to be able to skip him when you need to skip them. You want to be able to short script them when you want to short script them. It's not going to happen. You might be able to get away with it with Hancock a little bit more.

But again, Hancock only had like 90 innings last year. It's not the same as Bryce Miller. Bryce Miller had almost 140 and you're much more likely to be able to ask him to go 160, 170 than you are of Wu in Hancock. So I don't think it's as big as people want. Those are kind of the two biggest. And real quick on that too, right? This goes back to the conversation that we had about the flex in Marco battle in camp. Who fits better in the bullpen?

Not Marco Gonzalez. Jerry DiPoto himself on this show said Marco's stuff doesn't play up in the bullpen. So you're saying bye to Marco if you're making any move that involves Marco. Marco's getting released outright. And at that point, you have to make sure that you have a succession plan in place. Like not only benefits you right now, but gets you to the finish line. Right. Exactly.

And the other thing to keep in mind here is that even though it might be better for the team to have somebody like Brian Wu pitch for Marco Gonzalez, is it better for Brian Wu? You have to consider the player you're calling up here because if you think Brian Wu has a shot to be. part of your long-term future and the Mariners do, or you think that Brian Wu can help you get a piece that could be a part of your long-term future. Great. You have to be smart about how you handle that asset because if he comes up to the big leagues and he struggles, he loses value. If he comes up to the big leagues and gets hurt, he loses value.

So I think, you know, you have to, it's not only what's best for your team, it's what's best for the individual player, particularly a young player who is, I mean, still, that a developmental arm at the end of the day. He hasn't thrown a ton of innings. So, yeah, I think, you know, Marco, the only way you make it work is if Mark, if you go to a six-man rotation, which just means giving the ball to Kirby and Gilbert less, which, yeah, and Louise, who will get it figured out, stop, stop doom scrolling about Luis Castillo, he'll be fine.

It's not ideal. So I don't think that's the move here. Like, so, like, in terms of like, is there anything they can do on the back end? sure they've kind of already done that they kind of made the shift caviero is going to play more against righties he's going to be essentially the starting second baseman which to me means Wong is going to DH more and he'll also play a little bit of second so that's a small tweak that they've made that we talked about haggerty I think you should be sent down I would say Mason McCoy is the call up for me but obviously there's Moran and and Mike Ford is a possibility

I don't think Cade Marley is your guy in this spot so I think you could do that and then I you could maybe swap out one of your bullpen arms for perlander borougha who was again excellent last night but there's still some things that the mariners want barrowa to do in the miners before they call them up they want them to pitch back-to-back nights and they want him to pitch more than twice a week so the next step for him is pitched yesterday probably gets the day off and then you want to see him go saturday sunday and then get a day off and then go tuesday right so that way he just kind of has this feel for for how it works And so those are things that they want him to do.

So they might, they might not think he's ready yet. But when they do, then yeah, I think that's the move you make for like flexing. So there are some things you can do in the back end. But as far as like call up one of your top four prospects, that's not happening. Harry Ford is not seeing Seattle this year. Just just shut up. Stop asking that question. It's not happening.

Cole Young is not seen Seattle this year. Tyler Locklear is not seeing Seattle this year. Wu and Hancock might, but it's not going to be for Marco and May. I'll tell you that much. at least not until the end of not for from may to October it's not going to work like that so and as for like trades sure go find me one go find me a team in in on may 18th that is already willing to tell their fans they're out of this race and they have a player who is better than what you have right now that they are willing to trade you at market price not above market price go find me that player and then we can talk I'm not going to wait for you because the guy really doesn't exist right now yeah on the the bullpen front aside from Baroa. I would like to see Riley O'Brien maybe get a shot at some point here.

Maybe Isaiah Campbell, he's back and he's been pretty good since he got back. The other thing, though, on the flexen front that we do have to keep in mind here is that and Jason A. Churchill brought this up on his slack. I hope he

doesn't mind me sharing this, but he theorized that flexing might be around because Taylor dollars hurt, right? now as well and that's someone that I mean that's starting pitching up that's a guy that you would think is major league ready that could fill essentially the role that flexen is right now and give you essentially what flexen is giving you right now so maybe once dollar gets healthy again and we'll see on whenever that that happens maybe that's when they finally pull the plug on flexen and move on but for now it seems like flexen's kind of locked that spot yeah better or worse that that like

Like the Chris Flexon insurance for me is already Tommy Malone. So. Yeah, that's that is to me. Darren McCacken. Yeah, as well. Fine, whatever. Like if you're throwing Chris Flexion, you're already saying you're willing to lose that game. So what's the difference of throwing Darren McCacken in there? Well, and look at and look at how Flexon is being deployed right now.

Last night, he threw three in a 12 to three game. Yep. Great. Whoopty-do. Now he's not, he can be used for the next couple days at the very least. I mean Like I get it's like you like someone has to You know do mop up duty you have to throw those eddings

But do I really need to use a roster spot on that guy Do I need a mop up specialist? No, I don't You have one on your roster right now his name's Matt Brash anyways That's the other thing too right like if you if you if you do think and I don't think the mariners agree with this But if you do think that brash needs time in Tacoma which I I believe. I said that a couple days ago on the show. I still believe that a few days later now. Yeah, Riley O'Brien, Isaiah Campbell, doesn't really matter. Stephen Koleck, for that matter. I know that he just recently got called up to Tacoma, but why not?

Take a shot on one of those guys because, I mean, you're going to get bro up anyway. And if Brough is ultimately going to take that brash spot, let's, a little bit like you don't think that he's ready. Let's speed up the, you know, the brash rehabilitation, if you will. put him down in Tacoma and bring up someone like, you know, someone that's kind of interesting and take a little shot on someone like someone like that in the meantime until bro is ready. Right.

And Coleck is the mop-up guy in that spot. He's a former starter. It wasn't up until this winter. He's gone multiple innings in most of his outings this year. He is that guy. Yeah. Side note, also though,

on Flexin, I saw somebody speculate that if the Mariners wait until June 1 to DFA, flexen, essentially he would have to accept his assignment to AAA or forfeit his salary. His remaining salary. So if the Mariners wait until June 1, the DFA flexen, he clears waivers, which he would. If he doesn't, that's fine too, because he just dump his contract on whoever claims him. If they do that and Flexen says, I don't want to go to Tacoma, I want my release, that's fine. but then the Mariners would save $4 million.

That's how this person interpreted the roster rules. I don't know for sure. That's not really in my arena. But there could be something in play like that where Seattle is trying to get to a certain date before they deploy a DFA maneuver, essentially. And it's kind of like, you know, Louise, it's kind of like Diego Castillo where it's like,

you know, we can technically option him down. Like if he declines the option, we don't have to pay them. So it could just be something like that where they're waiting for a specific date to do it so that that way they can keep Flexen in the organization or save the or save the money that they owe them. It's a win-win at that stage. Flexson's contract is incredibly convoluted. So I'm not going to dive into the first. I mean, we spent this whole off-season debating if he had four years or one year left of club control.

Like the entire off-season. Yeah, it was one at the end of the day. But like for a while there. It's a really complicated deal, yeah. So maybe there's a clause in there that protects them from that even. So we don't know. We just we don't know about flex and we're just guessing. Right.

All right. So it's been a rough last couple of days for this rotation. Obviously rough night for Luis Castillo on Tuesday. I said that to me was his worst start in a marriage uniform. Marco obviously had the, you know, occasional Marco blow up as as we've come. My adult beverage. That's Marco Gonzalez. Yeah, adult beverage.

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And you're listening to the Lockdown Merrittors podcast. Thank you again for making us your first. Listen, what did you, what did you think? This is first time hearing it. I had to write that whole thing. Sure. you'd be a better copywriter than others. I'd say that.

That's as far as I think I legally can go in this situation. I'll take it. I'll take it. By the way, folks, again, if you can't catch the Mariners and Braves on TV this weekend, you can catch them on the Mariners hometown broadcast with Sirius XM via the SXM app. so right now Mariner's rotation still second

most valuable in baseball according to F4 took a little bit of a hit this week though with the bad starts from Castillo and Marco for sure

they were first but the twins have surpassed them on that front it took a hit like the Titanic took a hit from an iceberg sure wow too soon

too soon it's like 108 years ago too soon. Yes. So even with that, right, even with the small hit, the small little hiccup, I still feel great about this rotation,

but let's talk about these five guys individually. Let's rank them. Colby, how would you rank based off of, I mean, it doesn't really matter what it's based off of. It could be based off of just feel and vibes. It can be based off of just how much you trust these guys

or just the upside slash floor of them. How would you rank these five guys in the mirror's rotation right now? I don't know. Last time I did this exercise, some lunatic kept calling me a liar for saying that I still trust Robbie Ray, which. Oh, right. Yeah. I remember that. That's a good throwback. Yeah, which liar for an opinion. That doesn't seem. Stop lying, Colby. But whatever.

You're lying right now. Sure. I am lying by saying that guy had a good point. So I think I don't know how you want to like rank these guys but to me Kirby's number one And then I'm still I'm still going with Castillo Like I know he hasn't been good Like there's really no debating that

And this was kind of like the inevitable blowup That we all should have seen coming because it's kind of been like He's okay He was okay Not his best out and then all of a sudden boom like his worst And you're like, okay, well, it's a logical progression. But the stuff is so good, the track record is so good. This isn't unusual for Castillo to have a, you know, a five, six, seven, eight, ten game stretch where he's just really struggling.

He's done it before and he's gone on to produce still great seasons in Cincinnati. I feel pretty good about Seattle figuring this out. And then probably Gilbert 3, Miller, 4, and then Marco 5, I think is probably the correct way to, you know, worth, to, to, order these guys. I think if you're putting Miller ahead of Gilbert or Castillo, I think you're a little crazy. Like, I'm really impressed of what Miller's done. Don't get me wrong. But

again, in the grand scheme of things, he's been here for five minutes. He's faced Oakland. He's faced Oakland in Detroit. And a Houston lineup that is incredibly talented. Still has Yordon Alvarez and Kyle Tiger, but also not at 100%, far from it.

And again, I'm not trying to like degrade what he's done because he's been incredible. Oh, he's literally like been off to a historic start. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But again, you're asking me like who I, like, how would I, how would I like configure these guys in a playoff series in a five game series right now? My three starters are Kirby, Castillo, and Gilbert, and I'm putting Miller in the bullpen. Like, that's how now asked me again in August and this might change, but again, in the grand scheme of things, Miller's been here for five minutes and he's faced two glorified AAA

lineups. Like, we'll see how he does in Atlanta. I'm certainly really interested to see how he attacks that. And Miller's in a great spot right now with his mechanics and he's throwing a ton of strikes

and the slider and the curveball or curveball both look amazing in his last start. So he's already shown that he can adjust off of being fastball heavy. And like, it's all great. Cool. Do I want to trust the guy

who has three. starts or do I want to trust the guy that's coming up on like 75 quality starts or do I want to trust the guy who has like 110 really good quality starts it's kind of a no brainer so Miller for me is four and I think as ties about to do putting Miller any higher than four is is kind of a joke I'm not I'm not actually I'm not if he if he does this against Atlanta if he does this against Atlanta if he does this against Atlanta yeah I'm lying he does this against Atlanta maybe this changes but right now I'm in agreement with you I'm going Kirby I'm going Castillo

I'm going Gilbert I'm going Miller and then I'm going Marco now there is a pretty steep cliff from Miller to Marco in my mind so so take that for what you will I feel like Miller is pretty close to Gilbert just in terms of like upside

upside upside but again we haven't seen it against like we've seen it against like we've seen it once against a pretty good lineup, but one that's not at full strength. And then again, two like borderline AAA lineups, like you said.

If he does, again, if he does this against Atlanta, which to me might be the best offense in baseball, best lineup in baseball, then especially one that, that is a really bad matchup for him in particular. Sure.

If he goes six shutout innings against Atlanta, then the gap between him and Gilbert is closed a little. Then I, that I'm my eyebrows a little raised. My eyebrows a little raised. I'm just saying. By the way, guys, from a purely like tactical standpoint in terms of like team building, you really don't want Bryce Miller to win the rookie of the year this year.

Just throwing that out there. Because not only do you not get the draft pick, Bryce Miller gets a full year of service time, which, hey, he would have earned. I don't really have an issue with that. But still, wouldn't you rather have Bryce Miller for, all of this year and then six more seasons than just all of this year and five more seasons. Wow. Just on that out there.

Player suppressor Colby Patnode. Yeah. When it's to my benefit. Anti-player, pro-establishment, pro-organization, pro-owner, Colby Patnode. A little too hard. How do those boots taste? Really, so you would rather Bryce Miller win an award. That means nothing in the long run than have them for an additional year.

I'm thinking about Mariner fans in 29. Ties over here like yeah who cares give him that that ugly plaque so that he can leave here in 2028 like come on it's it's pretty it's pretty hard for for pitchers to win rookie of the year though so I have you seen what

the other American League rookies are doing that is true I mean Josh Young's been pretty good sure is he rookie eligible still I thought he got enough of that's eligible no he's eligible well still if Miller does what he does that Young could hit 40 home runs. Spencer Strider did what he did last year and he didn't win. Michael Harris won.

Now, I'm not saying that there's necessarily a Michael Harris in this American League class. There isn't. There isn't. There isn't. Anthony Volpe. It's not been a good year for rookies in the American League. But we'll see. Like I said, like, I said, look, if he wins it, fine, whatever.

But it's not good. It's good for him. It's not good for the Mariners. and the other side note here, just as we wrap up, can Major League Baseball please fix the awards they give out? They literally look like they get them at the trophy store for $9.99. It's just like a slab of wood with like a cheap plastic like inscription on it. It's like, come on guys.

Like the Rookie of the Year award looks like a joke. Like how dare you disrespect the name of Jackie Robinson by putting his name on your cheap plastic award. Like, come on, man. Get something metal. Get something nice. Get something gold. Like, let's do this thing. But no, you can just continue to be cheap so you can get a piece of plywood and glue some Jackie Robinson rookie of the year. Julio Rodriguez on. That is firewood. It's either that or a hunk of metal. Your choice. At least it's metal. I'm just saying, I've gotten better looking, I got better looking awards in high school than what Major League Baseball gives its rookie of the year awards. Go look it up, guys, seriously.

It's hideous. My YMCA participation trophies are better than that. Well, those are the only trophies you had since, you know, you were homeschooled and sheltered your entire life. By the way, I don't mean to jinx it here, but first recording and we're at the end. We did it. We were actually able to do this in one take. So look at us go. Look at us doing stuff.

And I'm not going to risk it any further. We're going to sign out here. So thank you so much for joining us here on the last. Locked-on Mariner's podcast for Colby Pat. I'm Tadian Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L-O-U-U-U-N-S-Mariners. You can follow me at Dan Gonzalez, the C-A-N-Z-L-Z and Colby at C-Pad-E-Pat-E-T-A-T-1. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok as at Locked-Mariners as well.

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