Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Does Roki Sasaki's Reported Preference of a "Smaller Market" Give the Mariners a Shot to Land Him?

Starting point is 00:00:00 Roki Sasaki, the Japanese starting pitching Phenom, is going to make his way to the majors this winter. And as expected, you guys have a lot of questions about him and if the Marers could land him. We'll talk about that. More coming up here on the Locked On Maris podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day.

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Starting point is 00:01:01 Check out our Patreon. All you have to do is click the link. in the description of this episode. And we're going to be kicking off Mailbag Monday here with a question from Chad. Once to know, after Jim Allen's comments on Roki Sasaki not being a lock for the Dodgers and putting emphasis on development, do you think we have a strong pitch for him coming to Seattle? Yeah, they do have a strong pitch. I don't think they'll land him, but we'll get into that in a second here.

Starting point is 00:01:27 So Jim Allen is a writer out in Japan. He spoke to someone apparently close to Roki Sasak. There's an interesting quote in here saying we prefer he's in a smaller media market with a softer landing after the way he's been tard and feathered by the Japanese tabloid media for two years. It's kind of interesting. So maybe that means smaller market teams like the rays, the guardians, the brewers, maybe they actually have a shot or maybe it's just smaller-ish than L.A. Maybe it's like San Diego or San Francisco, right? So, yeah, I'm still in the boat that the Dodgers or the Padres are going to be the ones that get Roki Sasaki. But again, I do think that the Mariners have a very strong pitch.

Starting point is 00:02:19 Obviously, we've said this time and time again on the show. They have, if not the best, one of the best pitching development systems in all of baseball. and they have several proofs of concept for Sasaki to look at. What's your feel on Seattle and just Sasaki's situation in general? Yeah. He's going to be a Dodger. That's how I feel. I think, you know, it's nice to say we like him in a smaller media market.

Starting point is 00:02:55 Cool. But when you're on a team that, you know, already has Otani on it, you're never going to be the primary focus of anything. So I do think that that helps. And also if you have an On Otani, you have a Yamamoto, you have a couple of guys who have been through this, right? They've been through very similar, especially Otani, very similar type of situation where he's foregoing a lot of money if he had just weighed a couple years to come to the states early. And so I think, you know, having Otani there to kind of, you know, be a shield more or less and a confidant on top of that is hugely appealing. to somebody like Sasaki and you know we're all guessing like none of us are you know with

Starting point is 00:03:37 roki Sasaki we don't know what he wants or how he feels about certain situations. I just haven't seen a player so heavily like linked to one team like this in a long time where it's just everybody is essentially saying like yeah he's going to be a Dodger. So it's it's interesting in that regard. In terms of like the individual pitch the Mariners could make. Yeah, I think they can make a strong pitch. I don't know if Sasaki is even going to listen to them, though, because the pitch for the Mariners is pretty simple. It's, hey, you know what?

Starting point is 00:04:08 We're one of the better teams in the American League. We have been for the last few years. Obviously, we're a few players short. You're one of those players. We have an incredible pitching development program that has clearly worked, obviously. Look at our current rotation, which was the best in baseball. And four of those guys are homegrown, including one of those guys who, like you, we've had to kind of slowly ramp up his workload. and he's had setbacks and yet we've managed it, right?

Starting point is 00:04:35 Our guys don't get hurt. And this is, I mean, our starters don't get hurt. And this is a couple of years in a row now where we've talked about how incredibly lucky the Mariners rotation is in terms of health. And it's like lucky or is that a skill? Well, and meanwhile, look at what happened to the Dodgers rotation this year. So it's one of those things where it's like, is that a skill? Is that bad luck? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:04:57 But it seems to happen to the Dodgers a lot. It doesn't seem to happen to the Mariners a lot. So if you think if there's any kind of skill to that whatsoever, the Mariners appear to be better at that than the Dodgers. You look at the ballpark. It is the most run suppressive ballpark in all of baseball. So you have more of a margin of air. You know, if you would like kind of the six-man and kind of ease your way in,

Starting point is 00:05:19 we can kind of accommodate that because our six are all number threes are better. So it's not like we're losing a ton by going to a six-man rotation. Or, you know, we can trade one of these guys and get a better offensive player. which would give you more run support, blah, blah, blah, blah, yada. So like the Mariners pitch is pretty good. It's just not, hey, we have show Hey, we have show Hey, Otani. And we just won the World Series, you know, and it's, it's not like, hey, we know you wanted to be a Dodger for a while now. Or we know you wanted to be a mariner for a while now.

Starting point is 00:05:48 So let's get this done. Right. Like it's not, it's just not as good as the Dodgers pitch, unfortunately, at least based on what we know, which is not a lot. So I think the idea that the Mariners have a shot. shot to land Sasaki. I think that's pretty foolish, uh, to be, to be frank. Like it's, it's foolishly optimistic to think that you have a good shot to land him. Uh, but, you know, whatever. Sometimes those things pay off and, and it is what it is, but like just based on purely, like, if we just take him at his word, right, smaller market, great development program,

Starting point is 00:06:25 you know, away from the limelight a little bit here, like, based on, you line up all, the teams that mark those boxes, Seattle's the best one in terms of development, in terms of a smaller media market, in terms of, you know, history. History, yeah, exactly. Like Seattle, far and away, is better than any of the other medium to small markets. Like, that's the best pitch you can get. Does that ultimately matter to Sasaki? I doubt it.

Starting point is 00:06:50 But we'll see. I mean, like, the mayors would be fools not to try, even though it's almost certainly going to be a colossal waste of time. They'd be foolish not to try because the dude is that. that good. And obviously, I mean, history with Japanese players, not obviously, obviously not a whole lot of history winning in Seattle, but yeah. No, but you know, Seattle was kind of the, I mean, they weren't first. The Dodgers brought over Novo a few years before the Mariners said, but Seattle was like one of the pioneers of bringing over players from Japan. And obviously they have a rich history with each year own, Eukuma and Sasaki. And you say Kukuchi. And I mean, like they've done they haven't done it a lot recently. And maybe that, hurts them in this regard. But Seattle's pitch, like their actual pitch that they could make is still pretty strong. It's just, are they going to be given an opportunity to make it and do any of their selling

Starting point is 00:07:42 points actually matter to Sasaki? Yeah. Now, one thing we should keep in mind is Lamaras do tend to move in silence. We often don't hear things about them. I mean, like, you know, there's still stuff that comes out. There's still stuff that, you know, even Colby and I will hear from people that comes out of the mayor's organization, but it's a lot more rare than for some more other organizations. So them not being mentioned by the national media when it comes to Sasaki doesn't really

Starting point is 00:08:11 from being like, oh, they're just out of it, right? I don't, again, I don't think they're going to land him, but there really is no risk in at least involving yourself here. And like I said the other day on Twitter, I think you have to be involved at the very at least you have to at least throw your hat in the ring here because the benefits potential benefits are massive of landing ropy sasaki all 30 teams should be involved here but yeah it's one of those cases though where it's like this is one of those things that you should make you know pretty well known that you're you're interested in this guy this generate

Starting point is 00:08:48 and you're looking to meet with him and all that stuff you should at some point probably make that known otherwise again it looks like you're not even trying even trying even though we know, like Ty said, they don't telegraph everything they do. You know, most of the deals that they're interested in, we will never hear about. So, but, you know, this is a case where it's like, hey, we gave this a shot. You just didn't want to come here, much like they did with the pursuit of Otani was very obvious and very apparent. They should probably do something similar with Sasaki. But yeah, we'll see.

Starting point is 00:09:22 You never know. I would say it's less than a 1% chance he comes to Seattle, but that's not zero. So, you know, give it a shot, see what happens. All right. We're going to answer more of your questions here. We've got a couple more about Roki Sasaki and some other interesting questions. And just a moment, but first, a reminder of this episode of the Lockdown Marys podcast is brought to you by Fandul. Get ready to tackle the NFL action with Fandul, America's number one sportsbook,

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Starting point is 00:10:21 Never waste a hunch and make every moment more with Fanduel, an official. sportsbook partner of the NFL. And you're listening to the Locked-on Mariner's podcast. It is Mailbag Monday and we're answering your marriage questions. Brandon wants to know if by some miracle the Mariners are able to land Roki Sasaki,

Starting point is 00:10:39 which pitcher from our current rotation would be most inclined to flip for a bat and any players in particular you target. Well, one thing that I think we should say here first and foremost is that if they land Sasaki, I don't think it's a guarantee that they trade one of the pitchers.

Starting point is 00:10:55 because we've talked about the workload when it comes to Japanese pitchers making the transition and Sasaki's career high in Indians is 129. So it might behoove the merits to just roll with a six-man rotation if that's something that Sasaki wants, right? And that's going to be part of the pitch and the whole negotiation there. Right. I mean, it could start as a six-man rotation. Then if Brian Wu has to go on the IEL, you could drop down to a five-man rotation.

Starting point is 00:11:21 And when he comes back, you can, you know, expand it. So, yeah, it's not a guarantee that you would trade one of these pitchers. So even though you have the extra arm again, in this hypothetical where you actually land Sasaki, if you have this extra arm, I still think that you have to be blown away to move that arm. I think that's how. Oh, yeah. Now, like, if they land Sasaki, I'm not going to be like, oh, yeah, now I'll trade Logan Gilbert for Tristan Kossis. No.

Starting point is 00:11:45 Like, it's still the same conversation, right? When it comes to the pitchers. Make me the godfather offer. Yeah. Now, am I more open to like trading Logan Gilbert for Catele-Marté? Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:58 Stuff like that. Yeah. Which one are they more, which one's more inclined to move? Which one do the Mariners want to move? Castillo. Yeah. Which one like probably becomes more available than they are right now. I would say probably Kirby would be my guess.

Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah. Yeah. I think I really think the Mariners like, like everybody wants the Mariners. to extend Cal Raleigh, like fine, cool, whatever, that's fine by me. I'll get into that a little later. I think if you ask some Mariners, who's the player you most want to extend right now? I think they'd probably tell you it's Logan Gilbert. So I don't think Gilbert's going anywhere.

Starting point is 00:12:33 But I could be wrong. That's a total guess on my part. Agreed though. But yeah, I think the Mariners would most like to move Castillo, but obviously because of all the reasons we've already talked about, who's most likely to be dealt. I don't think they're going to trade Woo or Miller because that's kind of selling low on those guys. I think it's George Kirby is the guy. if they did.

Starting point is 00:12:51 Now, I'm more open to trading Wu or Miller with Sasaki because now you've essentially reset your timeline. You're more open to trading any of these guys if you land Sasaki. But I think the Mariners, I wouldn't be shocked at all. The Mariners had Wu and Miller like ahead of George Kirby

Starting point is 00:13:06 in their pecking order. Sure. So yeah, I think Kirby's probably the guy who would be whose odds of being traded would actually go up the most would probably be George Kirby. Seattle, John wants to know, assuming Mariners signed their top

Starting point is 00:13:20 international prospects, could they make trade with another team for international money to sign Sasaki? I mean, they could, but I don't really think this matters. Because again, Sasaki is foregoing $350 million or something like that in a couple of years here to just get out ahead of this and go to the majors now and get out of Japan now. So I don't think the difference between, you know, one team offering him $7 million of their bonus pool money compared to two. from another team that's really going to matter to him clearly this is all about getting state side and getting his major league career going and finding the best possible fit for himself organizationally yeah um i'm sure he's got uh some you know a nice savings account uh in his back pocket and also even though he's going to technically be a minor league free agent or well minor league

Starting point is 00:14:14 player when he comes over he's obviously going to make the opening day roster and he's obviously going to be collecting league minimum, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, he's not going to be hurting for money. This isn't, you know, a case where it's like the 16-year-old kid who has to take the most money because he's trying to take care of his family. This is a guy who's, you know, 23. He's already a professional. He's got money in the bank already.

Starting point is 00:14:35 So, yeah, you could always trade for more money. And remember, the Mariners tried that way back when with Otani. And I guess we didn't want to see that as kind of the desperate act. maybe it was to try and, you know, just beat the team to offer them the most money. And they'll sign with us, right? Nope, don't work that way. Not with these guys coming over from Japan who already established. They already have money in the bank.

Starting point is 00:14:58 And obviously a guy like Sasaki will be totally fine on like endorsement deals if he wants to go down that path. So yeah, they could. They could if they have to or if they want to. But they certainly don't, I don't think the Mariners aren't going to get Sasaki through a lack of money that they're willing to offer him. Well, switching things up now. No more Roki Sasaki talk for the day. Matthew wants to know what is a realistic contract offer?

Starting point is 00:15:22 The M's can present Cal Raleigh and Scott Boris this winner to lock Cal up for the future. All right. So let's say that Cal makes $40 million in arbitration over the next three years. He's going to have to be the highest paid catcher in baseball, assuming that he continues to do this, right? Once we're talking about his free agent years. so JT Real Muto right now is the highest paid catcher in baseball by Aavie. I believe that's like 23 and a half if I'm not mistaken. So I think Cal probably should make 25 a year.

Starting point is 00:15:56 I think that's pretty safe. You know, again, assuming that he continues to do what he's done. So like six years 110 buy out his age 31 through 33 seasons. Because you also, if you're the American, You want to protect yourself here from, you know, guaranteeing a whole lot of money to a guy, you know, age 34, 35, 36, who already has a lot of wear and tear on his body at the most demanding position in all of baseball. So I feel like buying out three years of free agency works best for the Mariners. That's more of a win for Cal. This is why we talk the Cal discussion is always very complicated.

Starting point is 00:16:42 because yes, you want, you want Cal now as he is now, but Cal is also a guy who probably has the knees of a 30-year-old catcher already. But that also is, you know, Scott Boris will spend that to say like, well, yeah, because he's so durable. He's so great. Like that's, you know, and again, Boris in his head is like, yeah, he's got 30-year-old knees because you guys wore him into the ground and you need to compensate for him, compensate that for him,

Starting point is 00:17:08 the fact that you, you know, you probably shaved off a year or two. at the end of his catching career because you overuse them, blah, blah, blah. But we also have to keep in mind is that the reason the mergers would want to do an extension is that it somehow benefits them. And that would mean saving some money somewhere along the line. So you look at like Real Muto making 23, he's not worth 23 anymore. So you kind of look at that and you say, well, like adjusted for inflation, that's at least 25 a year in free agency. So, but if he's not catching, Cal Rale, he's not a $25 million year first baseman or D.8. like that's not a thing.

Starting point is 00:17:44 So it's a very difficult conversation. And we say this every time it gets brought up. So like if we assume hypothetically that it's three and 40 over the next three years just to buy out his arm. Right. And then 25 million per. I mean, you get to five years at $100 million or five years and $95 million or whatever. What's the benefit to the Mariners to not just wait those three years and then make a competitive offer when Cal is a agent wait and see if his knees hold up wait and see how you know the back's holding up and how the bat

Starting point is 00:18:17 is holding up in particular as well like why not just wait wait it out so the mayors have to get something from cow uh to essentially pay him i don't want to say before he's earned it because obviously he's earned it he's a great player but you know what i mean like he hasn't put up the seasons to justify you know the just getting your market value right now because that's not how it works because if we want to play hardball, we could pay you well below market value for the next three years. Like we're in no rush to get this done. So we have to get something in order to give you more guaranteed money up front right now

Starting point is 00:18:53 because it's a risk for the Mariners to give a catcher a big extension. So it's a really tough conversation. The number I came up with is I think like 5 and 80, five or six and like 100, I think is probably what the Mariners would be comfortable with. Is Boris and Cal going to be comfortable with? I don't know, but the only person that has to be comfortable with it, and I'll continue to state this fact, is Cal Raleigh. Right.

Starting point is 00:19:21 Remember, who works for who here? Keep that in mind. Yeah. Whenever you talk about a Scott Boris client. If Cal wants to sign with the mayor is and Scott Boris's job is to make that happen. Yep. Yeah. So I think the most that I'm willing to go is 6 and 115.

Starting point is 00:19:38 Because again, once we started talking about age 34, 35, 36, and we're starting to, you know, we're talking about $25 million a year, I have major concerns about what Cal is going to be able to do and not do by that point. I'm pretty concerned by any catcher over the age of 30, quite frankly, but like Real Luto is not aging well. Like that's already started. Wilson Contreras, I think, is the second high spayed catcher. I think he's making 18 million a year. He's already moving to first base. Like, yeah,

Starting point is 00:20:14 Joe Maurer had to move to first base. Buster Posey had to move to first base. Salvo is the second highest bid. Yeah, that's a mistake. Like, he barely catches. Like,

Starting point is 00:20:26 he catches like half the games. Like, and then he just D.Hs in place first base. So that's the path you're on with Cal. So you do have to be careful. We can do a whole probably our show on Cal Raleigh's extension and just the ends and outs. and why it makes it, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff.

Starting point is 00:20:40 So I don't know. That's why, to me, like the Cal extension, not that high on my priority list if I'm a Mariner, if I'm the Mariners. I understand why fans want it done. But it is undoubtedly risky to do it. It's also a little bit risky not to try and get something done. So it's a tough spot for both, you know, player and team because of the position he plays. but yeah my guess is you know the the Kyle Seeger extension from a few years ago it was seven and a hundred

Starting point is 00:21:12 I think it's I think Cal probably wants a hundred million dollars and then for the mayors are just like okay do we want to do that over five years probably not do we want to do over six years well now is six years too much for a catcher blah blah blah blah so all right we are going to be answering a few more of your questions here in just a moment but first a reminder this episode of the locked on This is brought to you by Game Time. So I used to live in New Mexico, and down in New Mexico, there are zero pro sports teams, and a lot of bands and artists I listen to skip going there more often than not. So when I moved to Toronto, where there's a baseball team, a basketball team, a hockey team,

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Starting point is 00:23:06 Monday. We've talked a lot about Roki Sasaki and just talked a little bit about a Cal Raleigh extension. Now let's talk about Dillam Moore. M's to the Moon wants to know. And by the way, M's to the Moon, they're at on Twitter is at Colby's burner. You got something you want to tell us, Colby? This is an imposter. I would never use a burner. Says the guy that has three Twitter accounts technically. And my name is on all of them right there in the bio. Sure.

Starting point is 00:23:35 sure sure all right m's to the moon wants to know uh dillamore's contract is up after this year who if anyone do you see in the organization that can fill this quote unquote utility man role he provides for the team uh my mind instantly goes to ben williamson what about you yeah i mean it'll be different obviously like dylan more is is let's say unique uh in how he provides value uh to this ball club but yeah Williamson i mean you kind of want a guy who could play shortstop williamson probably more of a fake it type of shortstop than like an actual good one but that's kind of what dillamore is too dillemore is not like a great shortstop he's just fine over there leo rivas showed some things again it'll look different but rivas if he survives uh awesome

Starting point is 00:24:24 chitin who um also maybe uh you know honestly this is where cole young could could uh find a little bit of this job, uh, himself depending on what the mariner's do at second base, uh, obviously it would be much more of an everyday utility type of player, uh, than what like Dylan Moore's preferred role is.

Starting point is 00:24:41 But, uh, yeah, I think Williamson is a guy who, who jumps out, uh, right away, uh,

Starting point is 00:24:46 you know, most of the Mariners in field, uh, guys who are relatively close, uh, more everyday types than, than they are utility types. And,

Starting point is 00:24:56 and so, uh, you know, like the Jake Slaughter types, like, yeah, who cares. I,

Starting point is 00:25:01 I think Williamson's the guy. and then maybe Rivas, but I don't know if Rivas is going to be around long enough to fill that role. So yeah, I know people are probably saying Ryan Bliss right now, but I just don't think he has the arm to do it. Like I don't think he has the arm to play short. I don't think he has the arm to play in the outfield. I mean, he's certainly athletic enough to run down five balls and whatnot. And you stick him in left field like whatever, arm's not that important in left field. You played with worse.

Starting point is 00:25:28 So, yeah, Bliss is certainly athletic enough. you know it's and we know that they they had them out there shag and fly balls in the outfield they were going to at least try it at some point but they never did right i think what's more than likely to happen is that the mariners find another dylan more in a different organization um but if it is somebody from inside the mariners organization right now then yeah i think it's it's williamson uh and then probably bliss rivas something in that order uh but i think you know what the marries will try to do is they'll just try and find another Dillan Moore. We found him once, we can find him again,

Starting point is 00:26:05 type of thing. You know, I guess it's possible they could also resign him. But if you're Dillamore, you probably want like Isaiah Kiner for Leffa money. You want to give a utility man $7 million a year if you're the Mariners? No. Next question here from McGuire. It's our first question from Blue Sky, by the way. Are there any potential 2025 bullpen arms in the mariner system outside of Hunter

Starting point is 00:26:25 Cranton? Do any of the starters in the lower levels have mid-leverage bullpen potential at the least. I would say out of the guys that they just drafted, I would also throw Brockmore in there, the guy that they drafted out of Oregon. I think he could be a pretty fast riser as well. I'm kind of intrigued by how Brandon Garcia's stuff might play out of the bullpen. Yep. Cutter slider. Yeah. Lefty. So yeah, I mean, they already tried it with Logan Evans and they were like, nah. So he's not an option. And I don't think Morales would play well out of the bullpen either. So

Starting point is 00:27:02 yeah, Garcia is the guy out of like the big three quote unquote of the starting pitching prospects on the Mariners system right now that I think could actually do it and be pretty interesting. Yeah, this is where a guy like Ty Cummings would have come into play

Starting point is 00:27:18 if he wasn't traded. He's middle relief type guy like the mayor's drafted a bunch of like middle relief types a few years ago and tried to keep like Ryan Hawks is a guy. that comes to mind and starting just didn't work for him. So, you know, this is also where a guy like Brody Hopkins would have come into play easily.

Starting point is 00:27:39 But yeah, I think of like the name starter, like the top 30 Mariners prospects of all the arms on those lists that could make an impact out of the bullpen this year. It's Garcia is the one who's most likely to do it. Who's, you know, a starter. Like, Cran and Moore, they're not starters. They're bullpen guys. So, yeah, I think if you're looking for a starter in the mariner system who could play up in the bullpen and help them towards the end of the year right now, I think Garcia is the top guy for that job.

Starting point is 00:28:09 Last question of the day comes around our friend Jake at Raise the Trident. What's your guys' process when it comes to making mock trades? How do you identify potential targets and how do you arrive at what the cost might be? Everything starts by looking at your own roster. Like that's where it all starts. You say, okay, this is the roster in front of me. I look at this roster, where are the holes? And you try and fill in the holes and you try and find players who are available.

Starting point is 00:28:37 Maybe you start with teams that, you know, traditionally have limited budgets and you look for more expensive players and you can kind of start to add guys. Like typically what I do is, is I just have a list. And it's anybody I can think of that might be traded. I put them on a list. And then I just kind of go down the list. And I'm like, okay, does this trade? Does this guy make much sense?

Starting point is 00:28:58 Yes, no, for these reasons. toss them off the list. And you just kind of prioritize all that stuff. So yeah, I mean, like, mostly I'm serious when I say like I'm just guessing, like it just guesswork. Because I do actually put like real like effort into it. I'm not pulling players out, you know, but yeah, mostly it's like, yeah, this guy could be available. It makes this. These are the reasons why he could be available.

Starting point is 00:29:24 He's similar to this guy who was traded for X. What are the differences? So it's X minus Y. or X plus Y, whatever. And then you just kind of throw it out there. And maybe you're way off. Maybe you're in the ballpark. But yeah, it's, you know, it starts by looking at your own roster and then just starts

Starting point is 00:29:41 by identifying talent and then kind of like coaling your list to be like, this guy doesn't work because he's making too much money. This guy doesn't work because he's on a great contract and that team's probably not going to trade him. And it's not like those guys never get traded, but you just kind of try and whittle it down to most likely to happen type of guys and guys that you think, you know, could be a fit on your roster and then it's hey do we have a fit on our do we have players in our system that makes sense for them right right you always got to think about what the other side's

Starting point is 00:30:10 getting to and that i think is loss on a lot of people because when a lot of people try to come up with trades they only focus on like what the mariners are getting and they want to get that for as little as possible and it's like no we don't want to do that we're not trying to give up as little as possible we're trying to give up what it takes to get the player or what we in the ballpark what we think it takes to get the player that's the important part to make good trades. Consider what the other team is getting. Yeah, ask questions.

Starting point is 00:30:35 Ask questions. And yeah, the other thing that I would add here is that for me, especially over the last couple years of us doing like the offseason plan or like trade deadline plans, I'll try and consume content from other teams, you know, podcasters, bloggers, you know, media members, et cetera, see what they're talking about when it comes to, you know, the players that I'm very seriously interested in and considering to, you know, put in those plans. Or if I have a, you know, connection within one of those, you know,

Starting point is 00:31:05 team spheres, whatever you want to call it, I'll reach out, right? And I'll ask, you know, just like, hey, like, what do you think about this guy? Is he actually, you know, could he actually get traded? You know, what do you think about the mirrors, right? Is there something on the mirrors that you think they would be interesting in all that? Takes two to tango in any trade minimum of two guys to tango. So you have to consider both sides. Okay, so I totally didn't forget that top five Tuesday is tomorrow and that we needed to spend the wheel.

Starting point is 00:31:34 That's why I totally mentioned it at the top of the show, right guys? Right? So this week, it's Colby's turn to take on the Marys topic of the week. And as you can see, we only have three options left on here. We're going to need to brainstorm some more. So let's see which of these three options you get for tomorrow, Coli. Love those sound effects. So good.

Starting point is 00:31:59 Looks like a trade chips Top five trade chips On the merits It had so many qualifiers to this Yeah You're gonna set so many parameters You have to And now it's my turn to

Starting point is 00:32:15 Spin the Wheel for the End of the show topic The silly topic We're considering some names What was your cousin reached out to you the other day? Yeah you call the serious wheel the helm like the ships

Starting point is 00:32:30 like the captain's wheel it's called the helm yeah and I thought because this one is silly we could call it the Ed Helms the Ed Helms okay sure let's so let's spend the Ed Helms here see what I get yeah

Starting point is 00:32:44 awesome likes boats baseball movies oh you suck that's a good one do you want me to save it for you I can re-spend no that's fun I mean like I feel like that would go against the wheel sure

Starting point is 00:33:02 Yeah, yeah, we can't, we can't disobey the wheel. That's not an option here. So there you go. We have our topics for tomorrow's episode. So look forward to that. Top five trade chips in the mayor's organization coming from Colby. Top five baseball movies coming from yours truly. Also, the mayor is signed a minor league for agent, Donis Medina, right hand a pitcher.

Starting point is 00:33:25 So that's kind of interesting. Former top prospect. Yeah. First notable,ish move. of the off season for the Marys. So there you go. So that's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marries podcast.

Starting point is 00:33:39 Colby Patnode. I'm Tadang Azalus. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Marrars. You'll follow me at Tadayg and Colby at CPAT 11. That's C-PAT-1-1. We're also on Blue Sky. You can follow me at TDG, Colby at MLB Colby, and the show at Locked-on Mariners.

Starting point is 00:33:54 Have yourself a beautiful baseball day and we'll see you next time. Peace.

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