Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - DON'T Count on the Seattle Mariners Trading For Matt Chapman This Summer

Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's show, we'll tell you why Matt Chapman is unlikely to be on the Mariners radar this summer. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors, it is Tuesday, June 23rd, 2026. My name is Tadangazolus, and I'm joined as always by my co-coes Colby Patnode. This episode is brought to you by Odu. Great organizations win because operations matter, and that's why you should get O-Doo. Try for free today at Odo.com slash locked on. That's ODO.com slash L-O-C-K-E-D-O-N.

Starting point is 00:00:44 Today we'll get you set for the Mariners upcoming series with the Pirates. We'll also talk about the latest update on the fan vote for the All-Star Game starters and how that has completely gone off the rails. Thanks a large part to a certain fan base north of the border. But we'll start with some trade talk today. Now, we're not really sure how many sellers there are going to be at the trade deadline this summer. However, we do know that the San Francisco Giants who are very bad want to offload some of their biggest contracts, if possible. That would include Willie Adamas and Raphael Devers and Matt Chapman. And for a long time, there has been at least a decently sized group of Mariners fans out there that have wanted Matt Chapman. on the Mariners. And so this would seemingly provide another opportunity for the mariner's to bring Matt Chapman into the fold. But there are a lot of complications that come with Matt Chapman. Specifically, I think the number one thing is the contract.

Starting point is 00:01:49 He's making $25 million this year. And he still has four more guaranteed years after the season at $25 million apiece. So he's owed $100 million over the next four seasons, and that's not even including the rest of the money that he's set to make for the remainder of 2026. The mayors are also trying to figure out what they have in Cold Emerson right now. They're trying to figure out what they have in third base, J.P. Crawford. So I'm not sure if there is necessarily a clear fit there either for Chapman.

Starting point is 00:02:26 And that's not even talking about some of the, issues that Chapman has had on the field this year, specifically in the batters box, Colby. Yeah, Matt Chapman is just, he's not a good fit for the Seattle Mariners. He's 33 years old. You're going to pay him $100 million through his age 36 season, something the Mariners have never been interested in doing with any outside player. He's hitting a ton of ground balls. it's been a steady increase in ground ball percentage over the last five years.

Starting point is 00:03:03 And he's not hitting the ball hard this year at all. Now, in the past, he's hit the ball hard, but this year he's not. And obviously, if you hit the ball on the ground a lot and you're not hitting the ball hard, you're going to be prone to long struggles because those typically turn into outs. So you have an aging player with $100 million left on his contract after this year, not to mention whatever you have to pay him for this year. He plays the position you might not have a question at. Maybe in 2027, but, you know, the Mariners want to see what JP looks like at third base.

Starting point is 00:03:38 We don't know if it's going to be good or not so far. It's been solid. But, you know, it's only been four games. I think the Mariners would rather pay JP Crawford, you know, two-year extension, three-year extension at, you know, $15 million a year or whatever it is, right? then pay Matt Chapman, who's older, whose bat at ball profile is concerning, who's trending the wrong direction in the batters box. He's really struggling against fastballs.

Starting point is 00:04:07 I don't think they're going to want to pay that guy $100 million when they could pay J.P. Crawford, half of that to be the third basement. And Crawford might just be a better player right now than Chapman. Now, Chapman, again, the defense is still very good, but it is not a lead anymore. And the offensive trends are concerning. He, a lot of his power is to left center field. That does not play well at Team Mobile Park.

Starting point is 00:04:31 Go ask, Hey, Oscar Hernandez about that. And again, he's just hitting a ton of ground balls. So there is a lot of concerning red flags here. The fact that the Giants want to get out from this contract, as badly as they do, that they're standing on top of the Golden Gate Bridge with a megaphone screaming. This guy's available. Come get this guy. Come get this guy.

Starting point is 00:04:49 That should be a bit of a red flag. Again, he's 33 years old. The Mariners do not pay. you know, plus 30s, $100 million. They just don't do that. And you would be paying for his age 34, 35, 35, 36, 37 season if you took on this contract. So it's just not going to happen. He doesn't fit the Mariners mold.

Starting point is 00:05:09 He doesn't fit the timeline. And by the way, if you're worried about, you know, keeping Logan Gilbert and Brian Wu and Bryce Miller, I think you have to sacrifice one of them to fit Chapman's remaining contract on your books. And I don't think that's a risk that the Mariners are willing to take, especially with the way Logan's been pitching now. Again, maybe you can pay for Logan just by getting Randy and JP off the books this winter, but you got to pay for Wu.

Starting point is 00:05:41 And we know the mayors are not going to extend themselves financially. So if they acquire Matt Chapman, that's probably the piece they acquire this winter or two. Like they're going to count that as their offseason. and Chapman is just not that guy that you, you know, you fire that bullet for. So you're just asking for trouble. And I don't see any kind of reason. I don't see any kind of smart baseball decision making that would go behind acquiring Matt Chapman. And even if you swapped like Leo or Luis Castillo, right?

Starting point is 00:06:11 Like, okay, they're making about the same money this year and next year, but you're still on the hook for three years and $75 million after. Yeah. So I think the only way this could possibly. work as if the Giants eat most of that contract. And even then, do you really want a 34, 35-year-old third baseman who's declining offensively and defensively on your, that's your answer at third base in your contention window?

Starting point is 00:06:38 I don't see it. How much am I paying him at that point? I guess that's the main question there. Right. I mean, I guess if you're paying him like $10 million a year, fine. But again, the Giants want to trade him to get the contract off their books. so they're probably looking for, you know. Well, and what are you willing to give up in order to lower that cost down the road?

Starting point is 00:06:58 Nothing. Nothing. I'd rather roll with J.P. Crawford for the rest of this year, considering the cost. And I think, you know, next year, Chapman probably going to be a better player than JP next year. I mean, I guess, but the stat line is concerning. He's not hitting fastballs. He's not hitting the ball hard. he's putting the ball on the ground more than ever.

Starting point is 00:07:22 Like, those are real legitimate, tangible things that you can look at, statistically, that paint a major red flag about Matt Chapman. He's a 104 WRC Plus this year. This is the first season that he's slugging under 400. I think he's at 376 right now, last time I checked. 386. But he's still slugging, you know, at a sub-400 clip. That's concerning.

Starting point is 00:07:50 And, you know, he plays in a fairly comparable hitter suppressive ballpark as well. So, you know, you take him from Oracle Park, put him in T-Mobile Park. I think you're going to see similar results. Acquiring Matt Chapman, like this current version of Matt Chapman with his contract and all the Aides left, that is like a family of five buying a two-door sports car when they need a minivan. like it's just a it's almost like a status acquisition like oh look at us we got matt chapman but are you really that much better i i i don't know i honestly don't know like like is chapman is still a good player yes yes i think he's a good player uh especially defensively he's still really good defensively he his glove has declined where he's not like the best

Starting point is 00:08:41 defensive player in all of baseball yeah you know but like he's still really good over there and that would obviously help right because even if even if what we've seen over the last four games from jp is actually real and he's actually an average third baseman over there chapman would still be an upgrade over jp defensively but we're not operating in a vacuum here you got to take into account the years that are involved the money that is involved in how the mariners financially operate just the reality of the situation if louis castillo had because he has one more guaranteed year after this year on his deal possibly two if he throws 180 innings in 2027.

Starting point is 00:09:24 Very easy plateau to side step for the acquiring team. Yeah. If he had three guaranteed years to Matt Chapman's four, maybe I could see it. But I think even at that point, the Mariners would just opt to get out from under that money as soon as possible. I just don't think that's something that the Mariners want to attach themselves to. I would just say this to wrap up on it. We have to, we can sit here and be like, well, ownership should spend more money and yes, yes, yes, blah. We get it.

Starting point is 00:10:01 We understand that. We agree with you. If you don't think we agree with you, you haven't been paying attention all these years. But we operate in reality that we have, not the one that we want. And so let me ask you this totally full question. Would you be willing to trade a Brian Wu extension for Matt Chapman this year? No. No.

Starting point is 00:10:23 And that's probably what we would. And that's on top of what it would take to get Chapman, which probably wouldn't be a ton, but still. So, yeah, would you be willing to trade a Bryce Miller extension to get Matt Chapman this year? Is Matt Chapman so much better than J.P. Crawford this year that you would trade, you know, Bryce Miller extension two years down the line? No. All right. Well, coming up, we're going to switch gears here. We're going to talk about the All-Star Game vote

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Starting point is 00:13:18 dot supercast.com to learn more. So fans have been voting for the All-Star Game starters for the last couple of weeks, and we have the latest update on those results. Not looking particularly great for your favorite Mariners, though Julio Rodriguez and Randy Rosarena have entered the top six in outfield voting, which would get them to the final round to determine who will be the three starting outfielder for the American League. outside of that though

Starting point is 00:13:46 Luke Rayley has fallen a little bit in the voting he went from 13th to 15th an outfield voting Dom Canzon 7th right now in D.H. voting J.P. Crawford is 10th I think he was 7th the last time they put out

Starting point is 00:14:02 an update and shortstop voting second base voting Cole Young has fallen a little bit to 8th Brennan Donovan for some reason is 6 third base right now. First based voting. Josh Naylor is seventh and catcher voting. Cal Raleigh

Starting point is 00:14:18 is somehow six despite hardly playing and that's kind of not even the craziest result in that in that position. It is not. We're actually not really doing this segment because of anything Mariners related. No Mariners deserve to start the

Starting point is 00:14:34 All-Star game. Randy maybe. If we break it down specifically to left fielders, he's probably still second behind Bellinger but sure, we can make an argument for him. Sure. But yeah, we're not upset that nobody's winning the fan vote for the Meritors.

Starting point is 00:14:51 Okay. No, no, let's make that abundantly clear. I just kind of want to rant about how Blue Jays fans have just completely made a mockery of this whole thing and how Major League Baseball just continues to allow this to happen. It seems pretty clear that Vladimir Guerrero Jr. is going to be the starting first baseman for the American League. he is crushing the first base vote right now and obviously he would go to a final round

Starting point is 00:15:20 where he and it looks like Ben Rice will square off much more deserving yeah much more multiple first basemen are much more is at best the seventh best first baseman in the American League this year Vladdy Kurtz Contreras Rice

Starting point is 00:15:38 yeah Vladdy has a 107 WRC plus sitting for a high average he's getting on basaltan he's just not slugging at all he's got four home runs this year through 74 games uh he is not deserving of starting the yallster game ben rice is more deserving munitaka murakami even with his injury has has been more deserving nick kurtz is more deserving pelaunzo is more deserving wilson charres he's more deserving yeah um yeah vladimir grero junior though is probably going to start the all-star game at first base for the toronto blue days because fans solely pick the starters,

Starting point is 00:16:13 which is a joke. And they got to do something about the Blue Jays aspect of this. Because it happens year after year. Now, we haven't seen it at least, you know, as far as I can remember. And, you know,

Starting point is 00:16:28 I don't really keep up with the All-Star Game voting or the All-Star game in general, especially over the last few years. So I'm not really 100% sure. But we haven't seen it get abused to the point where like guys who don't deserve to start are starting but it seems like that's going to happen this time around here with flaty it's just look you got a whole entire country that is voting that is primarily voting for one team compared to you know 29 other fan bases right or in the

Starting point is 00:17:02 american league 14 other fan bases um so and it's just it's not like look ernie come is leading second base voting he should get in yeah that's totally fine he should be he should be starting on second base yeah that's totally fine i don't have an issue with that what i have an issue with is again vladdie's starting at first base the fact that alexandro kirk who's played nine games this year at this point i know he just recently got back from injury but before he got hurt he had played like six games yeah and he just recently got reinstated from the injured list like just a few days ago. So he's only played nine,

Starting point is 00:17:41 10 something games. He's likely, very likely going to make it to the final round of voting for catchers. He isn't going to win. I don't think. Shealing Lairs is likely going to win that vote, thankfully and deservedly so. But the fact that Dylan Dingler or Adley Rutchman

Starting point is 00:18:00 is not going to make the final round and even have a shot to compete with Shaylinglears to start. That's a joke. Cosmo Okamoto is second and third base voting. He's not a good year. He's not the second best third baseman in the American League this year, though. Andres Jimenez, though, is the other, well, there's a couple of. Yeah, that's the other egregious one.

Starting point is 00:18:23 But Andres Jimenez, like Alejandro Kirk, he's not going to win, but he's going to make it to the final round against Bobby Witt Jr., who's going to smoke him, deservedly so. but Kevin McGonagulls not going to get to the final round. Coulson Montgomery is not going to get to the final round. Like, what are we doing? You know? And then George Springer is second in DH voting.

Starting point is 00:18:47 And now he hasn't played as few games as Alej Hunter Kirk, but he's also been hurt a couple of times this year. He's misconsiderable time. And he's also been mediocre. Yeah. It's time for Major League Baseball to look at this. Because like you said, you have one entire kind. contrary voting for the same nine guys versus, you know, 14 other fan bases, splitting votes.

Starting point is 00:19:12 I think fan voting can be a part of it, but I also think you need to start incorporating players and have them, you know, private about and they need to be weighed differently. The fan vote should account for, you know, the Mariners did their top 50 players. Like fan voting was only like a third of the formula of the formula there. Like I don't know. The NBA does like a percentage, like it counts towards a percentage. Right. It should be weighted to try and, you know, curb this because again it's not so much Vladdy starting at first base like he's going to win that

Starting point is 00:19:42 like Jimenez Kirk Springer they're not going to make the all-star team they're going to get smoked in the finals in the final voting and they're going to be left off the roster because the reserves are picked by by you know however they pick the reserves the manager just because you make the final round doesn't mean that you're an all-star yeah not at all but Vlad making it he's going to win that fan vote in a more deserving first basement is going to get snubbed because he's going to be the starter which means they can only carry X number of first baseman whereas if like Kurtz won the fan vote or whatever right. Kurtz was going to make it either way.

Starting point is 00:20:15 So now there's another spot open for a deserving player. Now part of this is like the All Star game is just about seeing the names and Vlad is certainly a name. So that would be one thing. But like we're talking about George Springer, 36 year old George Springer. We're talking about Alejandro Kirk who's played 10 games this year. like Cal Raleigh is a more deserving All-Star than Alejandro Kirk. And neither of those guys deserve to be within 100 miles of the All-Star game.

Starting point is 00:20:41 So it's just one of those things where it's like, look, ultimately, my guess is Major League Baseball says, that's not a big deal. The Blue Jays only had two starters. And it's like, yeah, but Vlad Guerrero took away, will ultimately have taken away a play or a all-star spot from somebody like Murakami or Kurtz or Contreras or Alonzo. And it doesn't seem like a big deal because the All-Star game. in the grand scheme of things not a big deal i don't want my players playing in it i i don't see any upside for it but it matters when you talk about arbitration when you talk about contract extensions

Starting point is 00:21:14 when you talk about free agency all-star appearances all-star games like these things unfortunately do get factored in so there is a very real world monetary value placed on going to the all-star game and when you allow players who don't deserve it to even be in the conversation it makes things seem cheap and it makes things seem unimportant and that's what we have right now is the Blue Jays fan base. And again, it's a popularity contest. Okay, fine, whatever. I understand that.

Starting point is 00:21:46 But then we can't have all-star appearances or all, it can't be tied to, you know, contract extensions. It can't be tied to incentives and Hall of Fame voting and like all of this because it's very clearly a flawed process. And to this right here is exhibit A. Like the, the Blue Jays are going to have seven finalists in the All-Star voting. None of them deserve to be in the All-Star game, except for Ernie Clint.

Starting point is 00:22:14 Funny enough. Now, Akamoto could make it at their base. That'd be fine. But like, if it's about stars, if that's your rationale for having Vlad Graham be the first baseman, then Jose Ramirez should be the third baseman. I mean, Miguel Vargas, Josh Young, more deserving. than Okamoto.

Starting point is 00:22:32 100%. So yeah, you're just, there are going to be players who are going to be left off of the All-Star game roster because of this fan voting thing and because there are going to be players who get in who don't deserve to be in at all because of the fan vote. And that means there's one less open spot for somebody who actually deserves to be there. And if Blue Jay fans, you know,

Starting point is 00:22:56 think that they're immune to this or whatever, I only ask you how upset were you when Randy Rosarana made the All-Star team last year instead of George Springer. You remember how upset you were when Springer didn't make the All-Star team last year? Rightfully so, by the way? There you go. It happens to every fan base. You're not immune to this. And it's just a stupid way to fix it.

Starting point is 00:23:18 And Blue Jay fans should be rewarded for going to the ballot box or whatever. Fine. But it doesn't have to be the entire determining factor. Player polls should matter. Sports writer should vote on this. as to, by the way, should, like, opposing broadcasters, they should have a ballot and they should not be allowed to vote for anybody on the team that they call and just do a big mix, 25% weight to each group, and then that's how you decide your starters.

Starting point is 00:23:47 And honestly, the whole team, if we're being honest. Like, why does the manager just get to pick his favorite reliever out of his bullpen who's got a three and a half ERA when this guy over here has got a one, two, five ERA? But he pitches for a bad team, so he has no shot to make it. You know what I mean? So the whole All-Star game is busted anyways. But certainly you're not going to fix it with apathy. And apathy is what you're going to get when, you know, Alejandro Kirk and Andres Jimenez are finalist for the starting jobs at the All-Star game this year.

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Starting point is 00:26:02 Marries kicking off a series with the pirates here in just a few hours. And the good news that the Mariners are going to avoid Paul Skeens by a day. He's going to start the first Pirates game after this series ends. The Mariners instead will see Mitch Keller tonight, former All-Star. They'll see Braxton Ashcraft tomorrow who's been very good this season. And they'll also see Bubba Chandler, once upon a time, one of the best prospects and the entire. entire game. I've had some issues with the walks as of late, though.

Starting point is 00:26:37 Expecting a roster move here, probably around the time that we finished recording, probably around the time that you're watching this or shortly after you're watching this. Expecting Randy or Rosaranda to be reinstated from the injured list. My guess is that the corresponding move will not be Rob Ruff Snyder. It will probably be Connor Joe. if I had to guess, the former pirates.

Starting point is 00:27:04 So no potential for a Connor Joe revenge series, because I know we're all looking forward to that. Not that I think Joe was even going to be able to get an opportunity here against the pirates with three righty starters. Also, some quick news before we get more into the series. Today on Brock and Salk, Logan Gilbert, confirmed that he will, as we speculated yesterday, he will be piggybacking with Emerson Hancock on Saturday in Cleveland against the Guardians.

Starting point is 00:27:37 Gilbert will start that game and then Hancock will come out of the bullpen. Fans are overwhelmingly supportive of the decision based on my quick gleaming of Twitter and my inbox and the group chat that I am unfortunately a part of. So, yeah, cool, awesome. Go Mariners. so yeah statement on the piggyback are you excited to see your old your old buddy Johann Ramirez on the series he's good he's pretty good

Starting point is 00:28:16 he's having a solid year yeah he was pretty good last year I mean surprise hey what's Jake Bowers doing is having a very good year fourth and also voting Colby somebody should probably hire me I tend to know what I'm talking about

Starting point is 00:28:31 anyways Jake Bowers bottom 10 position player with at least 100 played appearances in the jury to give them enough time I don't say not my fault they gave up on them too soon Jake Lamb would be an all-star

Starting point is 00:28:45 they'd give them more at-bats than you know a few years ago but anyways yeah Pirates kind of a very similar team to the Mariners in that they're both mediocre good offense though fourth and WRC plus this year

Starting point is 00:29:00 tied with the nationals. Yeah. Brandon Lowe, is that another player I've pounded the table for? Oh, well, imagine that.

Starting point is 00:29:09 I believe I also did it. I think I also did it. I said, well, look at that. They traded Joey Barts on the Braves the other day.

Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah, yeah, Hunter Stratton, Stratton, yeah. Did they have letter Stratton? No, you're thinking of Chris,

Starting point is 00:29:27 who they used to have. No, no, no, no, they did have Hunter Stratton. I'm looking at this page right now. He was there. There you go. Anyways, it's way too much time mentioning Joey Bart,

Starting point is 00:29:35 who's not even on this roster. Or Stratton, who's also in AAA right now. I was looking at roster resource aside. Anyway, the pirates aren't throwing a lefty against the Mariners in the series, so that's good.

Starting point is 00:29:47 They do have to be lefties in their bullpen, though. Two really good. Soto and Sisk are both really good. Who's the third one? Mason Montgomery. Oh, yes. He throws very, very hard.

Starting point is 00:29:59 striking out. lot of guys right now walking a lot of guys i believe right or he got that under yeah yeah yeah so again still kind of a not a great matchup we know we know how good dan wilson is is at working those midgame matchups though so i'm sure that'll be fine we'll see if uh randy gets activated today that's kind of expected to happen like you said we'll see if can zones in the lineup um you know he said he was fine uh but my my based on how the last couple weeks have gone. He will be available off the bench tonight and

Starting point is 00:30:34 tomorrow morning he will be placed on the IL just you know if I'm learning how to parse Dan Wilson a little bit that that's what that means. So yeah we'll see if he's in there or not obviously that would be a big loss if they missed him. Luke Rayleigh. Dan Wilson's available

Starting point is 00:30:50 off of the bench as Pete Carroll's is equivalent to Pete Carroll's legit yeah legit he's got a he's got a legit knee he's got a legit ankle yeah. it's good four to six awesome um so yeah Luke Rayleigh will be in the starting lineup for the first time in like a week eight days yeah probably look yeah so we'll see how that goes but yeah they're going to throw righties uh good opportunity to get game one tonight Keller's really struggled um but you know it's kind of pointless to look at matchups and talk because

Starting point is 00:31:23 it doesn't matter whether the mariners win or lose has very little to do with who they play Pittsburgh's pretty solid team. They're in a bit of a slump recently, and oddly enough, they can't win Paul Skeen starts. I saw a stat from MLB that when Skeens allows three hits or more, the pirates are one in ten. Yeah, which means schemes basically has to throw no hitter

Starting point is 00:31:52 for the pirates to win the start. Kind of a Felix Hernandez thing going on there. But the Marys are not facing schemes, unless they do a switcheroo. on Thursday. But yeah, they're not facing skeins. Ashcraft, like you said, having a good year. Pittsburgh, a lot of arms, they could throw out you out of the bullpen.

Starting point is 00:32:10 A lot of velocity coming out of that bullpen. I look forward to the biggest leverage out of the night going to Rob Ruff Snyder, trying to catch up to 100 miles an hour from Soto. That should be fun. Hey, you know what? Randy should be in the lineup. Canzone, we'll see. Probably the closest to a healthy lineup we've seen from the Mariners in a long, long time. So we'll see what it looks like.

Starting point is 00:32:32 But, oh yeah, and it's a Cole Young homecoming. Oh, yeah. There you go. Big series. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see how it goes, but that is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Locktime Airs podcast. Part of the Locktime Podcast. Part of the Locktime Podcast Network, your team every day. Once again, if you never miss an episode, it's time to make it official, join the Lockdown Every Day or Club and get ad-free audio, access to our members, only Discord and more all built for our most loyal fans for colby patnode i'm tiding gonzalez be sure to give us a follow

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