Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Draft Notice (Part 3)

Episode Date: June 17, 2020

Taylor Blake Ward joins D.C. to talk about all six of the Mariners' draft choices, including first round pick Emerson Hancock. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to Locked-on Mariners, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Here's your host, D.C. Lundberg. Thank you very much, Joey, and ladies and gentlemen listening, thank you for tuning in to Locked-on Mariners today. I hope you enjoyed yesterday's edition of Diamond Quiz a bit more than the three contestants. I've got to tone down the difficulty, I think. I don't know what happened, but in any case, I am glad that you are here listening to Lockdown Mariners, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, of course,

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or any of the other wonderful programs here on Tlopin. Follow the show on Twitter at L-O-U-U-Nerner's, and follow me on Twitter at D.C. underscore Lundberg, L-U-N-N-D-B-E-R-G, if you are scoring at home. We are talking Mariners draft today. The Mariners had six draft selections in the draft last week, and here to discuss these draft picks is the real host of Lockdown Angels Jason Hernandez.

This is Taylor Blake Ward here today. Taylor, how you doing? I'm good. I listen to Diamond Quiz, and, man, I would have stomped those fools. I would have curbst them and called their mother after. You know, I'm not surprised at the slightest, to be honest, with you. Considering how well you did in your two previous appearances on the show, where you absolutely killed Jason Hernandez,

and what do you score, 185 or something, that show? I don't remember. I know I did well. That's all I know. You did very, very well, yes. The official runner-up of the champions. That is true. That is true.

That is true. Sully still holds the top score, though. I will point that out, but you did beat him in the game where you were head-to-head. So there is that. Fair enough. He stopped me when I was at the zoo, so I'll give him that one. He got me good when I was sitting next to a tiger. I'll go with that.

Oh, okay. I'm not the tiger king. I'm the tiger prince. There you go, there you go. And I just happened to like frosted flakes, so there's that. In any case, let's get to the draft. Mariners' first pick was Emerson Hancock out of Georgia, right-handed pitch, six foot four, 213 pounds.

He was ranked number four, and the Mariners took him at number six, and they were very happy that they fell the number six. They were kind of tracking him from the very beginning, from what I understand, Taylor. And tell us some more about this, Kay. Let's get to know the next Mariners pitching prospect. Yeah, the Mariners weren't the only ones tracking him. I mean, he, in February going into the spring,

I think a lot of people expected him to be a potential first overall pick. There was a lot of excitement about Emerson Hancock, and I was talking to a scouting director who was picking in the late top 10. I told him, I said, hey, you know, if you're not getting Emerson Hancock, they almost did. It was surprising. Had a bit of a downspring. Wasn't exactly what was expected out of him. There was some velocity jumps where he'd be really good in the first inning,

and then the velocity would drop off in the second, third innings. Just an interesting spring. Early year for him just wasn't what was expected, but there's a lot of upside at Emerson, Hancock. Big physical kid. I think most of the projection is kind of, I think he's filled out pretty well, as you noted. He's 6'4 and about 215 pounds. Pretty well filled out.

There may be some a little bit more of the tank, but this guy runs it up really fast. You know, he has a great fastball, has a good feel for some secondaries. The slider is one of the better pitches in the draft, if you ask me. Compliments that with a good curve ball. The change-up, I think, is just more using it more.

I think he has to show that he uses it. it more, didn't have to really utilize it when he was at Georgia. And Georgia is a program that really relies on winning. I mean, they're a good development program, but they rely on winning. And when he can work with his fastball slider combination, mix in his curve a little bit, doesn't really have to go to that change up as much. One thing I really like about him, a very good athlete, very good athlete. If I'm remembering right in high school, he was a two sport athlete. I couldn't tell you what that second sport was. But, you know, you get an athletic guy with that kind of stuff, that's a premier arm. And there's a reason,

why he went six overall was expected to possibly be a top 10 pick even upwards of being the first overall pick and you know you see the ranking systems all everyone had them inside the top 10 you know everyone's different but i believe MLB had him the highest at four i believe baseball america had him five or six something like that there's a reason for that very talented young man who uh you know we can get into the knox a little bit and the next question but you know very very uh strong talent One thing I wanted to ask you about, specifically, Taylor, was his delivery, which Jason Hernandez and I both noted looked pretty smooth, but the one thing in his delivery that I did not necessarily like is I was back foot crossed over his front foot after he had finished, which was in some of the

video I saw, and then it looked like it may have started to be coached out of him over the last couple of seasons. And I was wondering if you could speak to that a little bit. Yeah, I think it's a development project. You go from a throat. to a pitcher. And in his earlier, he was a very good pitcher, but more of a thrower. And we see that with the velocity and what happens, you know, with his slider, things like this. But I think developmental-wise, I think that's something you can kind of kink out. And that's going to help him throw more strikes. He doesn't have a problem throwing strikes. One of the best strike throwers in this class, I think, even by the metrics, I think, shows that he was walking

two or less than two per nine on a regular basis. throws a lot of strikes. He throws a lot of strikes. So you get a guy with that kind of stuff that has the ability to throw strikes and command strikes within the zone or command his pitches within the zone, that I think is kind of what you're looking at with the delivery. Not as alarming for me. You know, it's, yeah, there's a, there's something you got to see, but I think that's a developmental item that could be fixed. Okay, sure. The thing for me is that it doesn't put you in good fielding position. And, you know, I'm still a little bit old school. I want my pitchers to be able to field a little bit. Plus, when his back has completely turned to the hitter, that was a little dangerous, considering that if a ball's coming right at him,

he's not going to have the best reaction time. But again, as you say, if that can be coached out, and it looks like it started to be coached out, then that probably isn't going to be a problem. And that's also a thing, just real quick, and I'm sorry to cut you off. That's another item where the athleticism is going to come into play. I mean, he is a very good athlete. So the ability to field pitchers after the fact. And if you can get him through that kind of mechanical adjustment, you know, this is a guy that is going to be quick to first base covering the bag. And I don't see a lot of problems with him fielding-wise. And I think that's the reason for me is primarily that athleticism. Yeah, no, that's a terrific point. And you said, let's bring up

some of the, I guess, downside, I want to say, because there's a downside to just about every player, unless that player happens to me, Mike Trout. But Emerson Hancock. where do you think he projects out? What do you think his peak is? I guess I'll ask that. Well, I mean, you know, this is a premier arm. So your peak is you hope that you can get an ace out of this pick. But that's not a realistic scenario because how many true aces are there in baseball?

You know, if you get a mid-rotation arm or a number two out of this guy, that's a very important arm to have. And I think that's a realistic scenario is seeing a mid-rotation arm with Emerson Hancock. And I know that, you know, for people that are unfamiliar with prospects or the amateur thing, think realistically how many true aces or number twos there are in baseball right now and how long they last for that amount of time. So, you know, you could say that he could be an ace of a staff or something like that. He could be a true number two in the future.

But I think in the long run, you're looking at a mid-rotation arm, a true number three or something along those lines, which is very vital. Oh, I'll take that any day of the week. I'll take that any day of the week because you're right, there are not many aces left in baseball these days and you out home can think of the names that you want to think of.

I can think of maybe two or three off just off the top of my head among all 30 teams, Taylor. Yeah, no, I mean, you got Max Scherzer, Jacob deGrom, and it's like even a guy like Clayton Kershaw who's the best pitcher in baseball for near a decade, you know, do you really classify him as an ace anymore? So it's like how long, you know, it's about longevity as,

an ace and the top starter in the game. One thing, you know, you have Emerson Hancock, you also have Logan Gilbert in the Mariners system. Right. And, you know, if you have two guys that are true number threes, that can become your true number two that's going to face off against Jacob deGrom or whoever it is in the American League, you know, Garrett Cole, Zach Granky, those kind of guys. You know, Zach Granky may be beyond his prime at that time, but those are the kind of guys that, you know, you have two guys that are real weapons in your rotation. And I would actually put Hancock above Gilbert.

I know how much Mariners fans really like Logan Gilbert. And I like him too. But I think Emerson Hancock's a little bit better of a pitcher. That's actually good to hear because I like Gilbert too. I liked what he did in the minor leagues last year. You know, just based on his numbers because I never saw him pitch in person. But based on the numbers that I saw out of the minor leagues, I think Gilbert had a very good season.

And if Emerson Hancock can surpass even that as he develops, I think that's terrific news for the Maritor's future. Yeah, these are both top-hunter prospects. I got to see Logan Gilbert. This was a guy that was one of the better pitching prospects I saw last year. And if I went back and looked at my notebook, he might be the second or third-best pitching prospect I saw last year. And you could add McKenzie Gore to that list,

who is the top pitching prospect in baseball. I'm not bashing on Logan Gilbert by any means. He's a very good pitcher. Oh, no, I'm just taking it as a compliment. to Hancock rather than a swipe at Gilbert. Yeah. Yeah, no. I mean, I like both of these guys. One thing with Emerson Hancock, and it has to be noted, is the trackman data is not as, it wouldn't suggest a top 10 pick.

The trackman data does linger a bit behind what the eyeball test is going to give you. For me, though, the fact that he's athletic and throws strikes, you know, yeah, the trackman data is great to have, and it does kind of note why he was hit so hard in college early this year, why his strike. I got numbers were, you know, par. He was striking out 9 to 10 per 9, which is very good. But when you're a top 10 pick, you want to be up above that. And that's kind of why you see those things and why he fell a little bit,

was that early season performance and the trackman data. But like I said, I mean, this is a top hunter prospect for me. This is a very, very good pitcher who I think has mid-rotation upside, and I think is going to be able to hit that mark. Man, my tongue got all twisted there, literally. But, you know, if this is a mid-rotation arm and you have Logan Gilbert and you have other options to fill your rotation and you go and sign a guy, then the Mariners rotation suddenly looks like a weapon. And you have Marco Gonzalez as well for, what, two more years? Three more.

Well, we'll see how this year goes, but what, two more years after this? I think four. Wow. I mean, heck, there's three mid-rotation guys sitting there right there within your organization already. And, you know, Gonzalez, if he's, let's say he signed. and extension for the sake of argument after this contract is up. And for the sake of argument, let's say that Hancock and Gilbert both hit their peak. That is a super solid rotation in my eyes. Yeah. I mean, you can fill in a fifth starter. You know, you go sign another arm, whether it's a

high-end arm or even a mid-rotation arm, and then you go fill in the back of your rotation with someone from your farm system or you go sign a journeyman guy. Heck, you know, suddenly the Mariners have a pretty decent pitching staff. You got to worry about that bullpen, but that's where a lot of other things come into play. True. And as far as the rotation, maybe the Mariners can just try Paul Abbott again. But in any case... One big thing is you talk about relievers and the value of relievers, Jerry DePoto, baby. That guy loves his relievers. All right, fair enough, very good. We are just about up on a break, which means it's time for the Mariners' trivia question, which today is the following. Ken Griffey Jr. was the Mariners' first overall pick

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Didn't work out for the Mariners is great. I mean, he was a major leaker for the Mariners, but pitched really well for the Indians in like the late 90s. Correct. He did. Mariner's traded him to the San Francisco Giants along with Mike Jackson, a very, very solid back end reliever, and Bill Swift. And in return got Mike. Remlinger and Kevin Mitchell. All right. All right. More Locked-on Mariners shortly.

Now time for the second half of Locked-on Mariners. Once again, your host, D.C. Lundberg. Thanks once again, J.M. We are back here on Locked-on Mariners talking about the Mariners' draft and the newest Mariners, I guess, prospects or projects coming up through their minor league system. Here to do that with me is Draft Guru, Taylor Blake Ward. We've discussed the first round pick, Emerson Hancock, at length in the first segment. We're going to go through the Mariners' remaining five picks, two through five, including the compensation bonus pick B or CBB or CBOB, but we'll start with number two.

We'll start with number two. Second round pick, Zach DeLoch out of Texas A&M. He is 6'1, 210 pounds, left-handed hitter, right-handed thrower. And what can we say about Deloche, Mr. Ward? A very common theme among the Mariners' picks is a track record with wood bats. A lot of guys that had strong performances on the Cape. Zach Deloche, nothing flashy for me, just a premier college performer who has a track record with wood bats.

You know, maybe a chance to stay in center field. I think that's kind of a luxury, but guys that's going to hit, maybe hits for average, maybe hits for power, a little bit more plate discipline above everything else. But when you have that track record and that discipline, that turns into a major league product, whether he's an everyday regular or fourth outfielder, I think, is to be seen in the future. But, you know, nothing flashy, but you're a safe pick in the second round that I think is going to work for him. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, safe picks, track record with woodbats, that sounds like a winning pick to me.

Now let's go to CBB or the compensation or whatever the hell. This is Connor Phillips out of McLennan Community College in Texas, 6'2-190-pounder. Right-hander, what can we say about this, dude? Competitive balance round B, and you can think Bud Seelik for that, among other things, and ignore the current commissioner. But Connor Phillips, I had to throw that in.

That was fun to do. So big-bodied kid throws hard. You know, that's kind of it. He's a Jucco kid that I think was one of the better Jucco players in the nation. Throws plenty hard, mid-90s, high-90s. Needs to find more consistency with a second pitch. It's kind of like a lazy slurve at times,

and sometimes it shows above average or plus. But kind of a two-pitched guy, I think he's a reliever in the long run more than anything. But definitely, you know, you get a hard-throwing guy with a secondary pitch and you throw him into your development staff, hoping you can start him. So he'll probably be a starter until he hits AA, AAA, and suddenly he's a reliever for the Mariners.

And he's also about two years younger than the Mariners' other draft choices, too, so a little bit more development time, perhaps. Yeah, no, I mean, he's, what, 19, 20 years old here. He's 19 right now. So there's some upside there. I mean, there's always upside when you take Juko kids, and especially ones that are on the younger side, first year Juko kids or whatever it may be.

and, you know, McLennon Community College is a very good Jucco program. I think people hear Juko and they kind of think, you know, oh, well, it's not Division I or even Division II. No, McClennon Community College, they could compete with a lot of Division II programs of the nation. I mean, that's a very premier juco down in Texas. Very, very cool. Let's move on to round three.

And this man was not even ranked on MLB.com. However, the name is familiar to me, and this is Kaden Polkovich, and the first sentence right here, yes, he is the son of former big leaguer Kevin Polkovich, one of those obscure players from the late 90s that I am familiar with for reasons unbeknownst to me. Polkovich was a middle infielder shortstop for the pirates. Why am I talking about his father? Caden Polkovich is the newest mariner third round pick. He is also a middle infielder. He's listed as a second baseman, left-handed hitter, as his father. was 5'8 180 pounds, same body type as his father was.

Anything to add to this man? Nope. You add on that his dad is Kevin, and that is the player that I think a lot of people are expecting him to be, is a very similar player to his father. Kind of positionless, though. I think they list him at second base because that's maybe his best potential position. You could maybe move him to third, maybe play him in the outfield a tick, but kind of just it's bat over everything else.

That is the calling tool to get him to the majors and maybe a future utility guy. You know, another guy with a track record in the Cape Cod and another wood bad guy, but I think you nailed it with saying Kevin. I think that's the player that most people expect him to be. And it's always unfair to compare sons to fathers. But I think this is one that I think most people feel pretty confident about and safe about is that very similar players. that Kevin Polkovich was a useful major league baseball player kind of a bench piece he was a starter for a couple years as a matter of fact

but then again that was the pirates he probably would have been kind of like a super utility guy in any other team but you know let's see how this plays out and I'm also noticing here that he shares a birthday with my mother so that is very good February 21st yeah very similar profile to his father very similar I mean different players but very similar Excellent. In round four, the Mariners took a third baseman out of Old Miss. Tyler Keenan, 6'4, 240 pounds, so he's a big-bodied third baseman, another left-handed hitter. And what can we say about Mr. Keenan?

I think he's a future platoon first basement. There's a lot of power. There's a lot of questions about how much he's going to hit as well. So, you know, you pair him up against righties at times, and he shows power. He can play third base, but he's just heavy-footed. I mean, he's really heavy-footed. He's a big kid, 6-4-2-40. I mean, that's a big kid. And I think he's a future platoon first basement.

And another item, you know, nothing wrong with it. There's a lot of safety and taking players like that that have the power, and you can get him into your development staff. And I think that if he becomes more than a platoon player or even becomes a platoon player over at a corner, it's a pretty good baseball player. Sure. And for a fourth-round pick, you know, a platoon first-based. basement, you know, that's successful as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah. Going to round five, the final round, we have a pitcher, a 6-foot-3-195-pound right-hander out of Cal Poly, Taylor Dallard. And let's see what we can say about Mr. Dullard. Touch and field guy. I actually got to see Taylor last year. Touch and field guy. I mean, in my notebook, I didn't write anything flashy, but I think he had a good performance

there. and I think he also had a good performance throughout his college career in central California, Cal Poly there. You know, another college organization that does well developmental-wise. You know, Mr. Lee up in Cal Poly does a great job and more with the hitters, but you see a lot of pictures coming out of this program, and this is a guy that's touch and feel. You know, it's throw strikes performed well on the Cape. Shocker, again. But, you know, he has two off-speed people.

pitches that work and may be able to help him get out. It's more of a sinker pitcher. Like I said, you know, when I saw him, it was nothing flashy and it's not like this guy was a standout to me, but there's a reason why he was drafted in the top five rounds. And as a junior, not as a senior. Safe pick, throw strikes could be, you know, let's talk about Marco Gonzalez, Emerson Hancock, Logan Gilbert, and Taylor Dollared at the back end of that rotation. And screw it. You know, the Mariners go sign McKenzie Goreman. He's a free agent. I don't know. I don't know. I wish, but...

Yeah, I think we all do. Mackenzie Gore is a very special player. I think any team would be very happy to have him. But, you know, this is a guy that long run, you may be looking at a long relief arm or back rotation starter, up and down guy. But those guys make it. And those guys do well.

You saw a lot of pitchers very similar to him going the fifth round. And eventually one of those guys is going to make out as one's going to become an all-star. One's going to become a everyday starter. you know, mid-rotation arm, one's going to be a back-arm or back-end arm, and a bunch of them are going to flame out. Taylor-Dollard is in that conversation. Oh, sure. And another point that I'll bring up that I brought up on the last couple of shows when I was

talking with Jason Hernandez talking about the entire first round at large is that this baseball draft is not an exact science. You know, it's a far-craft from the NFL draft or the NBA draft where they're signing kids and drafting kids who are going right to the top level and starting in many cases. baseball is such a different beast, Taylor. Oh, monumentally. I mean, I've said this, I've been a guest on shows all week, and I keep coming back to this, but Kyler Murray, you take Kyler Murray first overall in the NFL draft,

suddenly he is your starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals, right? Right, yes. You take Spencer Torkelson first overall in the Major League Baseball draft. He might be your first baseman next year, maybe. Right. It's like, you know, and there's a big maybe there. You take Emerson Hancock with the six overall pick. Emerson Hancock might not be a mariner for two years, maybe three years.

Yeah, at least. Yeah, and, you know, it's like I've used Trey Young, you know, suddenly you have a new point guard for the Atlanta Hawks. You use Kyler Murray. Suddenly the quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals. It's, you know, even guys that are taking in the seventh round in the NFL draft, suddenly they're role players on the NFL team. They're not even on the practice squad.

They're on the actual roster of the team. you take someone in the seventh round of the MLB draft, you're not going to see them in the majors, maybe ever. You might not even see them in AAA for three, four years. Correct, yeah. So, no, it's a monumental difference. And it just shows, you know, I'm not knocking on football or basketball. They're very challenging things, especially to be a professional basketball player.

But it just kind of shows how hard it is to be a professional baseball player. Exactly. And it's such a different system. It's just the way things are structured, very, very different. And I'll go back to another point that these late round kids that we were just talking about in baseball, it only went five rounds this year. How long does it ordinarily go? I know it's changed over the years. Upwards, well, recently it was 50 rounds. That was more in the late 2000s. It's been 40 rounds for quite some time now. 40 rounds, obviously five rounds this

year, which is outrageously small and ridiculous. Next year, there's rumors that maybe 20 rounds, maybe around 20, which I think is, depending on the status of baseball, I think maybe relatively okay. I think in a perfect world, 30 rounds, because you get into the 30 through 40 rounds, you start seeing guys that are just taken for the conversation sake. You take a high schooler you know is going to college, and you're just having that conversation about the organization saying, look, at three years, we want to have the same conversation, but you sign, you're seeing Johnny Mansell get drafted.

You know, if we were, yeah, I think if we got to a point where, and it's great, you get to reward those kids, Jonah DePoto, another guy that was drafted in the 30-somethingth round. And I think the big thing is if you cut it down to 30 rounds, you get teams saying, okay, we cannot take a Johnny Mansell. We've got to capitalize on every pick. And even if our 30th rounder never makes it out of a rookie ball, at least we feel confident. that this is a professional baseball player. We feel confident in the pick.

And I think you get into some of those later rounds, even though we see some success out of that. We see Jared Walsh with the Angels, a 39th round pick. And he's a piece for the Angels here. So I think, but maybe in a 30-round draft, he is your 30th round pick, as opposed to your 39th. And you feel a bit more confident just going after the players that you like and not really beating around the bush during some of the

draft. And a big thing for me is, you know, yeah, I'd love to have 50 rounds again. I'd love to have every opportunity for every player, amateur player, to become a professional baseball player. But obviously, Rob Manfred is going to eliminate 40 teams here next year and 40 minor league teams, thousand-some roster spots gone throughout minor league baseball. Right. So sadly, realistically, I think we are going to have to cut some of the draft. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the late round pick that I keep going back to was Mike Piazza, a 62nd round pick. and that was kind of one of those picks that was kind of a favor to his family that wound up working out. Doesn't happen often.

No, I mean, we were talking about it with Mike Piazza in the 60th round. I think Albert Pujols was a 13th round pick. You're going to have some freak scenarios. He was a Jukal kid, was he not? He was at St. Louis. Yep. And there was some teams that really liked him. Miami really liked him.

And there's a lot of really cool stories when you go back and look at teams that had desire. and signing Albert Pujols, and it's like, Miami liked him. I think the Rangers liked him a lot. And suddenly he's a Cardinal, and he's the best player in baseball for a decade. And, you know, the voodoo cardinals, but at the same time, you know, it's exciting to see that, yes, maybe this kid that's taken in the 15th round can be a future Hall of Famer, the greatest player in baseball. More likely, he's going to flame out in single A.

But, you know, you lose that opportunity with five rounds. and let's say we got one All-Star out of the top of the, you know, the team picks this year. Let's say that we went in 20 rounds and 10 years down the road, we got one All-Star. That organization that took that player, I mean, props to the scout, props the organization, but we don't have that luxury. Not this year at least. No, no, screw Manfred. Edit that, I dare you.

I was just about to say, I'm leaving that in, unless you want me to get rid of it. No. No. All right. All right. On that high note, we're going to call it a day. Taylor, thanks again for joining us. Where can the nice people find you on Twitter? And how can they listen to your show? Yeah, check us out. Lockdownangels.com here on Tlopin, the Lockdown Podcast Network. Thank you, D.C. for that one. Trademark, hashtag Tlopin. And I'm on Twitter at Taylor Blake Ward. And, you know, the nice people and not so nice people can follow me. but we'll have fun with that. So DC, man, this was a blast.

It's always fun chatting with you. And it's fun. You know, we got to talk about Dave Barber there, and we always seem to bring up one obscure pitcher that had a pretty good career out of nowhere, and we don't realize it. So Frank Tanana forever, baby. I was going to say, Dave Verber certainly no Frank Tinana,

but we got our money's worth out of them today. We did, we did. The Ohio State University, thank you very much. Yes. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, next time on Locked-on Mariners, I will be joined by guest panelists, Dr. Johnny Fever,

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