Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Drafting the Top 50 Seattle Mariners SNUBS

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On Saturday, the Mariners announced their top 50 players in team history. Today, we're going to draft teams of the players who didn't make the cut. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, it is Tuesday, August 11, 2026. My name is Tiding Azales, and I'm joined as always by my co-covee.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Colby Patnode. This episode is brought to you by Calci for a limited time, download the Calci app and use. is the promo code locked on. That's LOC, KED, O N, to get $10 when you trade 10. On today's show, we're going to draft two separate teams consistent to players who didn't make the Mariners top 50 players list this past weekend. We'll be going back and forth, taking players to fill out a roster made up of two starting
Starting point is 00:00:50 pitchers, two relievers, a catcher, a first baseman, second baseman, third baseman, shortstop, three outfielders and an extra header to be the DH. Now, for a lot of those spots, you know, we'll be taking players who had a real argument to make the top 50 list, but at least a couple of those spots we'll probably have to dig it a little bit deeper. Yeah, yeah, we'll probably have to dig a little bit deeper at some of those spots.
Starting point is 00:01:16 So it should be fun though. Now, we're not going to do a free-for-all where I can, for example, take a left-fielder first and Colby can take a shortstop first. We're going to go down the list of positions and draft accordingly. So let's start with the pitchers, Colby. Who's the first starting pitcher you're taking? Yeah, just, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:33 The reason we're not doing the free for all is that it's really hard to track and follow. So, yeah, it's just easier this way. But for starting pitchers, I think this guy is one of the probably three or four best, like most obvious snubs. So I don't think this will surprise anybody. But how Marco Gonzalez didn't make this team or this list, I don't really know. He was here for seven years. He was part of the pre-rebuild. He stuck with the team through the rebuild.
Starting point is 00:02:02 and then he even saw some success with the team post rebuild. And he was just a professional. He's one of the all-time great dudes. And apparently great dudes and being like a really great guy, do factor into this list for a couple of different players. And Marco is one of those guys. He was an opening day starter for you. He pitched for seven years.
Starting point is 00:02:22 He gave you about 900 innings of like really quality baseball while he was here. Again, not a star, never an all-star, really only had like two really good years. and the rest were okay, relatively speaking, but the longevity of Marco and, you know, kind of the help he provided going from pre-rebuild and transitioning all the way to winning and being, you know, a key cog in that all along the way. I felt like that was pretty overlooked by the Mariners.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And I don't know what his vote total was. I don't know, you know, what percentage of our vote actually counted towards that we don't know, right? They didn't really share that. We know that it wasn't everything. But I just, I was, I was pretty disappointed that Marco,
Starting point is 00:03:06 I didn't make the team. And I, I think we all know the one guy, he probably should have made it over, but we are not here to rehash the guys who did make the list. All right, we're not here to complain about that, although,
Starting point is 00:03:16 you know, what are you doing? Colby not wanting to complain. What? Well, I mean, this is not a celebration, Ty.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You're celebrating a deep and rich history of the Seattle Mariners. So Marco Gonzalez definitely should be a top 50 guy. I think that was one of the, I would say probably one of the top three obvious snubs that we got over the weekend. But, you know, again, we're shouting you out here, Marco. So thanks for everything you did. And, you know, I do think you actually have like a borderline Mariner Hall of Fame case to be made one day. But anyhow, Marco Gonzalez, my number one pitcher snub, starting pitcher snub.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'll be taking Mike Leak, no. Wade Miley. I'm going to take Matt Young, who, yeah, I wasn't watching ball back in the 80s, surprise, surprise. So I don't know much about Matt Young, but obviously top 15 and FIPP, top 15 all time and F4, just one of the more valuable pitchers, starting pitchers in Mariners team history through almost thousand innings. Also pitched a little bit out of the bullpen for the Mariners. So I'll take Matt Young here. But outside of Marco, really, there wasn't anyone that,
Starting point is 00:04:30 I felt needed to be on this list. I thought they did a really good job with the starting pitchers. So this is one of those areas that I mentioned where we're going to have to dig a little bit deeper here. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. I would agree with that. I think they did a pretty nice job at most positions at getting the guys who had to be there in there.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So for my number two could go a couple different ways here. I could kind of go more longevity or I could kind of go like. bigger impact like when they actually played here. So yeah, I do have a couple honorable mentions here, but I'll get to them after you, you know, make your second pick.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But I'll go Jason Vargas. Again, was actually a snub. No, I mean, like fine, whatever. I don't think that you should put him in
Starting point is 00:05:21 over anybody who made it. But again, we're drafting teams here. We got to dig a little bit deeper. Vargas to me, four seasons here in Seattle, gave you 700 inning, roughly of really quality baseball.
Starting point is 00:05:31 He had two, two and a half wins seasons. And I like crafty lefties. So you know what? Jason Vargas and that nasty cutter, he made squad over a couple of other guys. Based mostly on the longevity and the, again, 700 really good quality innings from a guy is definitely something that has value.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And it's part of the reason why I had him on my list over a couple of other guys that definitely have similar cases to be made. So there are a lot of different guys that I could go with here. There's like 10 guys, frankly, that are just kind of bunched together here that I could go with. And actually, I'm going to change my pick from the first time that we did this recording because breaking it and shut up. But breaking new stream here, I'd reset on us mid recording. Are you going to steal my honorable mention? Surprise, surprise.
Starting point is 00:06:21 So I'm actually going to go with someone else here. I did pick Aaron Seeley the first time that we did this. But I'm going to change it. I'm going to go Doug Fister here. Okay. Yeah, Doug Fister, I mean, like, when you just look at the numbers, now he didn't throw a ton of innings in Seattle. So if you want to, if you think that someone with more longevity here is like,
Starting point is 00:06:42 yeah, if you want to go with someone who has more longevity here, that's fine. Like, I wouldn't blame you on that. And there's a bunch of guys here that are kind of like in the same grouping that that do have more more time in Seattle than Fister. but like, Fister, top five and walks per nine all time in Mariners team history, top 10 and ERA, top 15 and FIPP. Like, dude was really good when he was here. So, yeah, I'll go Doug Fister.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Just wasn't here for a very long time. But, yeah, I certainly don't have a problem with that. I loved watching Doug Fister pitch. So, yeah, that was, that's a good pick. My honorable mentions I did have Aaron Seeley was here, big part of the 2000 and 2001 team. He was solid. He was a five-win pitcher combined in those two years, had a third year with Seattle a couple years later.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It didn't go particularly well. But Sealy, you know, a very important part of the best two-season stretch in Mariners history, which I know isn't great, but he was a big part of that. And, you know, he has also a Northwest guy. So I do think that that carries some little extra weight here. And then the other guy, Brian Holman, who almost certainly makes this list. if he didn't get hurt. He, in about two and a half years with the Mariners,
Starting point is 00:08:01 he was worth eight wins, be war-wise. He almost threw a perfect game. He was rock solid. He actually looked like very early on. He was the key piece to the Mark Langston trade, and that was the guy you're going to build your rotation around. You know,
Starting point is 00:08:16 unfortunately, Brian got hurt and this other, you know, this other guy named Randy Johnson kind of emerged after that. He never heard of them. Yeah, so, yeah, Holman probably makes this team of,
Starting point is 00:08:26 doesn't get hurt. You know, Chris Basio, I know through a, you know, no hitter here and he paid up a bunch of inning. So again, there are a bunch of guys in the Vargas, Seeley, Basio Fister. Like, there's probably like 50 different guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, like, there's a bunch of the same guys. But again, I think head. Yeah, a lot of guys. Yeah. I would say that the Mariners did a pretty good job with getting the right pitchers, starting pitchers on this top 50. Although, again, there was just the one that I was like, yeah. But he's probably like in that list with the with the Cilis and the Vargas is anyway. So just kind of like they picked one.
Starting point is 00:09:02 We're talking about Joe L. Panero. Yeah. I think they just picked one out of that group and they're like, this is the guy and it's like, okay, I mean, fine. Like he's not that much better than like or that, like he's in the same vein as Vargas or Holman or Ceeley and Fister. So it's not a huge deal. But yeah, it's, to pick any of those guys over Marco, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Love Marco. All right. We're in the reliever section now of the draft. Go ahead. Take Jeff Nelson. I should. I gave you the first pick. You are going to have the better team here.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah, I know. But I don't want to pick Jeff Nelson. But I'm going to because he's Jeff Nelson. And he has more games. He's pitching to more games than any pitcher in Mariners history. And he was really good when he was here. And he's one of the best set up men in Major League history. So I feel like.
Starting point is 00:09:53 like you have to go Jeff Nelson. He, along with Marco, is one of those three guys that is just like, how did this guy not make your top 50 team? So I know a lot of people kind of associate Nelson with the Yankees more than the Mariners. And Jeff Nelson was at Yankees old timers day or whatever. So maybe he declared his allegiance there too. But yeah, Jeff Nelson absolutely deserves to be on this team. It's really a no-brainer. I mean, if you're going to have Arthur Rhodes, who does deserve to be on this team, by the way, you have to have Jeff Nelson. They were like a tandem that really set up pause and really did some great things in the early 2000. So Jeff Nelson's a no-brainer.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I can't believe he didn't make this team. Yeah, same. Same. That was one of the biggest snubs of the entire list. My pick here will be Matt Brash. Okay. Interesting. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Obviously, like post-injury, post-surgery, it hasn't been anywhere near as good, especially this year. But he's still like really good. And I mean, like, pre-surgery. Was there a reliever in baseball that was nastier or the mat? Brash when he was on his game when he was 100th percentile Matt Brash. Like, dude was disgusting. You know, you think about, you know, Aaron's call, corkscrewing Jose Ramirez into the earth and all that.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Like what Matt Brash could do to some of the best hitters in the entire game, some of the best hitters this sport has ever seen in its existence was incredibly impressive. And I hope that, you know, one day we can eventually get back to see. in that version of Matt Brush. But yeah, I think for that, just the talent alone, but then you add in like his importance to the specific era of Mariners baseball as well. Like he, he should
Starting point is 00:11:35 be on this list. And, you know, yeah, he's on my team here. Yep. So one more reliever each. That's correct. Yep. One more reliever. Oh, so many guys. Now we got to, now we got to dig deeper. But like, yeah, there are a lot of guys that would
Starting point is 00:11:55 be fun here. Yeah. Yeah, like a lot of, mostly a lot of guys with very short Mariner track records that were just amazing when they were here. So how about you go first on this one? You want me to go first? Yeah, you go first on this one because I have like six honorable mentions and I'm hoping to take one of them out for me. Okay. Well, I'm running into a similar problem as you here.
Starting point is 00:12:22 So I'm going to, I'm going to go, I'll make a pick though. I'll go with the bartender. I'll go with Tom Wilhelmson. He was there on Saturday or Friday. I forget. But they showed him on the big screen. Yeah, he was on my little mentions. It was funny, though.
Starting point is 00:12:39 A little disrespectful to how they were like, hey, Tom Will Humpson's in the, in Eggers and Charlie Furbush is right there next to him. And they said nothing about him. We got to get Charlie on the broadcast a little more. He was really good in spring training. So I'm a little surprised there's not.
Starting point is 00:12:54 We should get Charlie. on the pod, actually. I mean, we've got a bunch of lefties already committed. How many more can we take? But yeah, Tom was on my list. A couple other guys here. I'm just going to give you all of them, and then I'll pick one. Paul Seewald. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Oh, my God. You know, we're stupid. We're so stupid. Edwin Diaz didn't make the list. Yeah, Diaz is where I was going to go. Okay, okay. Yeah, all right. Hold on. I'm sorry. Oh, you want to take Edwin Diaz? Yeah, I'm stupid. I'm so stupid.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Well, that's why I say. They're like, really? Okay. I totally forgot that he didn't make. You're going to take crash over? Okay. I totally forgot that he didn't make the list. Because like that,
Starting point is 00:13:37 that should be a no brainer, right? Like he should have made the top 50. He was only here for what, two years. But like, okay, but still. Yeah, yeah. But still. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:48 So you want to start the whole thing over again or just you want to start? No, no, no. We're, we're going to, we're going to keep it rolling here. But like, wow. Yeah. To those of you watching that are probably like, have been screaming at your screens or at your radio or whatever you're, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:02 listening or watching on right now, like for the last few minutes, I'm sorry. I just, I assumed for a second there that, that Edwin Diaz had made it, which he, yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:11 he did not. That's crazy. I was hoping you would take Diaz when you took Brash and then I was like, okay, well, let's give him another one and then he'll take Diaz, so I don't have to. And again, it's not because I don't want to take Diaz,
Starting point is 00:14:22 it's just because I wanted to mention Paul Seawald. And David, Ardsma and Fernando Rodney and Shigotosi Hasigawa and Tom Wolhomson. So there's just, those are all the guys on my list. So if you're taking Diaz, then I will take, I'm going to because we have to. We are contractually obligated to do this. I will take Fernando Rodney, although Paul Seawalt is floating around out there for a potential second tour of duty with the Seattle Mariners.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So I'll take Fernando though, just the, I know it was a brief time here, but it was. a lot of fun and he was very, very good. So I'll take Fernando Rodney. I can't believe. We just completely forgot about Edwin Diaz. I mean, I said go ahead and take Jeff Nelson and you took Jeff Nelson.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Well, I think Nelson is more deserving than Diaz. He was here a lot longer. I mean, yeah, but like, I don't know. He was here a lot longer and he was very, very good. Those Edwin years are so good. Like, so good. The one where he had like 50 saves, like whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I mean, still empty. Look at me and my team plays a lot of close games and I'm good. So I just get to rack up saves at a ridiculous number. Wow. Wow. Look at Ty over here. Sipping pain for saves guy over here. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah. As I took Fernando Rodney. Canadian baseball. Canadian baseball legend Fernando Rodney. Hey, man, that's all right. Well, that was a big whoopsie on our part there, but at least on my part, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, whatever, whatever.
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Starting point is 00:18:25 Thank you so much for making us your first. and also thank you for making the lockdown the number one sports podcast network. So now we're in the position player part of our all-time snub draft or whatever you want to call it. Top 50 snub draft.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So catchers, we're starting with the catchers. Who are you taking? There's two here. Yeah. Yeah, Zinino. Pretty a no-brainer. A really great defensive catcher hits a ton of home runs. Honestly, the precursor to Cal Raleigh,
Starting point is 00:18:55 I mean, not 2026, Gao, Raleigh, and also not 20, 25, cow Raleigh, but 22, 23, 24 Cal Raleigh, Mike Sineano walked so that that cow could run. And Zanino had a three-year stretch here. We used very, very good, actually. You know, low average, but about a league average on base, lots of pop and a really good defender.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, Mike Sineo, one of those guys, I was a little surprised, didn't make the team. So I guess I'll take Kenji. Yeah. Big Z was my guy that I wanted to see, or one of them, you know, one of the like fringe guys that I wasn't sure if he was going to make it or not and we talked to devish about that a couple weeks ago and he was one of the guys that he mentioned in that regard as well but uh you know the bearers frankly haven't seen a ton of great catching in their team's history obviously cal Dan all that but like xenino is often overlooked when like the dude was an incredible defensive catcher and also you know had some big time offensive moments and What was the year where he was like really good, like legitimately really good?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, it was 2017. You know. Yeah, Juneino. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, Big Z. That would have been my pick. But yeah, I'll go with Jojima, who, who said.
Starting point is 00:20:11 You know, he had a couple of, you know, nice years here. Yeah, he was solid. Yeah. Hope to see Zanino back at the ballpark in future years for the alumni home run derby. He would be my pick. Yeah. He would be my pick as well. Immediately easy pick.
Starting point is 00:20:23 All right. So first base here, as we kind of. I kind of got to go along. Two options here for me. I'm going to take the guy that I was stumping for four months ago, which leaves the more obvious fan-friendly pick for you. I'll go Tino Martinez should have been on this team. Very good hitter, massive part of that.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Kind of the unsung hero of the 95 team. He was so huge for that group, but just obviously overlooked by Edgar and Jay and Griffey and a young A-Rod and Randy Johnson and even Dan Wilson. it's just like, God, this guy was really, really good in the middle of that lineup. So I'll go Tino leaving the more obvious and fan-friendly pick for you. Yeah, which is Thai France. France obviously a big part of, you know, the best trade in Jerry DePoto's tenure as, you know, the mayor is GM slash president of baseball operations.
Starting point is 00:21:16 France is a one-time All-Star, unfortunately, you know, has that elbow injury and things kind of just go downhill from there for him. But, you know, when he was cooking, he was awesome. And he was such a big part of the turnaround for this club coming out of the, coming out of the rebuild and in the drought. So yeah, Thai France, no brainer there. Yeah. Kind of one of the what ifs of Merritt. What if he didn't wreck his elbow on that play at first base?
Starting point is 00:21:42 He'd probably still be here because I'm pretty confident they wanted to keep him around long term. And then he just got hurt and then he couldn't really hit. So nice to see him having a bounce back, career turnaround. Yeah. this year as well. So, yep, easy guy to root for. Second base, I had a couple options here.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Again, I'll go with kind of the, I'll go, this time I'll go with more of the fan favorite. And I think that leaves a fairly obvious one for you. I'm going to go Joey Cora as my second baseman. Again, just because of the popularity of him with the fan base, I was kind of surprised he didn't make the team. I'm not saying he should have, but I'm a little bit surprised he didn't just because he was wildly popular. And if there is a managerial change, we will probably hear his name. along with his brother's brought up as potential replacements. But again, don't fall for the trap, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Don't fall for that trap. Are you willing to fire the franchise legend if you hire him? But Joey Cora, yeah, second base. And he was productive. It's not just that he was a fan favorite. He was a legit productive player here for a couple of years. So I'll take Joey Cora. So that leaves me with actually a couple of decisions here.
Starting point is 00:22:48 It's Jose Lopez or it's still a more. Okay. Interesting. I had Jorge Polanco as my backup. Ooh, that's also a good one. Only the one really good year, but the number of big hits he had in that one year alone. Very, very important player in Maris history, even just with that one year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, Polos there as well. I think I'm going to go Dimo, actually. You know, we're Jose Lopez. Mani is going to, mani's not going to like that. But when have I ever cared about Mani's opinion? But look at his WRC Plus. He had like one good year, which. is the same as Polo, but how many, how many playoff hits did Lopez have in his
Starting point is 00:23:27 mariner tenure? That's what I thought. That's what I thought. So third base, yeah, I'm not going to let you take the favor this time. I'm going to take Gino, who is one of the three, him, Marco, and Jeff Nelson. How the heck did they not make this team or this group? I have no idea the, just the love affair Seattle has with Gino in general. Should have been enough to carry him. But he was also a highly productive player for you. for two and a half years and he was also greatly featured in all the videos that were playing around the ballpark all day long on saturday and he had arguably he had arguably what the second biggest hit in franchise history certainly the one that got them closer and further along down the path
Starting point is 00:24:07 to the goal than any other hit has ever gotten them yeah and it's kind of a similar thing to to polo as well like where it shouldn't just be like the longevity it shouldn't just be what they did on the stat sheet. Impact. Yeah. Impact. And there are very few players who have had as much impact as Gino had in as little bit, in as little time as Gino actually had here in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:24:31 We talked about this, you know, last year when they acquired him with Gary, and just like, who's the last player who had, who'd been here for such a short time that left that big of an impact on the city and on the franchise? It's a very short list. And so, yeah, the fact that that Gino didn't make it is a travesty, if we're being honest. Agreed. I'll go with another guy that I actually was a little surprised. Didn't make it. That's Mike Blowers.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yep. He was my other guy. You know, it was obviously, you know, a pretty big piece to the 95 season, had an incredible 93 season with the team, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:05 was on the broadcast for so many years, like meant a lot to this organization for a really long time. Yeah. So I was really surprised to see that he didn't make the cut. Yeah. So, yeah, Yeah, like obviously like Gino's the guy that I think of here, but blow is a really nice pick here as well at third base.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah, he's top five snub in my opinion. Shortstop, a couple options here. I'm going to go with the guy that I've always liked the most, Carlos Gien. I think that probably leaves the better player for you, but also I don't care. I'm not trying to win this. I might be. But like, Gian was just a really solid player for what, six years. like and I know he kind of really didn't pop until he went to Detroit but he was just a really solid shortstop.
Starting point is 00:25:48 He was a pretty good defender got on base, a good amount switch hitter. I like watching him play and he's just one of my favorites. He's kind of JP before JP. JP made the team, rightfully so. But Gian kind of gets forgotten in that regard. And he was also the guy who followed Arod. Not the easiest thing in the world to do, but Mike Cameron gets a lot of credit for following Griffey. Hean followed Arod and he held his own.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So I'm going to give Carlos Gaines some love here. and take him as my shortstop. So that leaves me with Gene Seguro. Yeah. You obviously, you know. Didn't end well, but when he was here. Yeah, a little bit of a rocky tenure in Seattle. But obviously, yeah, it was good.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It was really good. Just in terms of what he did on the field, he was an incredible player. Yeah, incredible player. Obviously, there's the Senzigerra campaign and all that as well. You know, ultimately, you know, helped you get J.P. Crawford, who wound up making the list. Yep, yep. Segura definitely worthy of conversation, that's for sure.
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Starting point is 00:28:05 So outfielders, how do you want to do this? Do you want to do specifically left field, center field, right field, or do you just want to pick three outfielers? I did specific positions, but I think we're going to have to allow some flexibility because I got to say the Mariners did a really nice job of cleaning up the outfield. There's not a lot of.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yeah. Yeah. So I, you know, I wrote down a couple of options for every position. Yeah. Right field. Whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:30 That's, I was like, we might have to get a little creative here. Yeah. It's pretty much been each hero and not a ton else. Yeah. Part of me is like maybe I should have taken Polanco at second. So I could have left DEMO for.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah. Yeah. He was kind of on my like, in case of emergency list, like throw him in a position. because it works. But I'll let you go first so you can get your guy in left field. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:54 That is my gift to you. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's between the two Randy's, right? Randy when the more accomplished Mariner and it's time in Seattle. But yeah, it's my guy. So I'm taking Randy or Rosarana in left field.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I have to. It's my guy. Okay. So again, because the outfield is pretty well picked over here for my left fielder, I'm going to go with Tom Pachorick, who I didn't know a ton about going into this. But he played four years here. He was worth seven wins. He made an all-star team.
Starting point is 00:29:36 He actually had a really good 81 campaign at 326, 379, 509. So really solid four-year career here. didn't, by the way, he did that in only 104 games. So, yeah, solid player. Again, Mariners did a really nice job of pick and clean the outfield for us. So not a ton here. One good year, though, good enough to make the leftovers team, so to speak. So yeah, I'll go Pachorik.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So are you letting me get the first pick for center field then? No, heck no. I'm taking Randy win. Okay, I was like, taking Randy win. I was like, wow. I was like you're giving me Randy. No, you get one Randy. I will take the other one.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I'm fair, fair, fair. Yeah. I'll take the Condor then. I'll take Michael Sanders. Yeah, he was my backup. Yeah. I was hoping that you wouldn't take him and I could snack him for right field. Yeah, you know who my other backups for center field was.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Jeremy Reed. That's how bad it is. I was going to say, is it Kyle Lewis? Leonis Martin Yeah I mean yeah probably So yeah The Condor I was really hoping you would go like Leonis Or
Starting point is 00:30:52 They would go Leotis so I could go Saunders in in Wrightfield Again the Mariners I cannot emphasize this enough They did a really nice job Picking over the outfielders Because legitimately Luke Rayley and Donkan Zone have an argument for Rightfield
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah so right field like it's like Leon Roberts that's who I turn I took Leon Robert and I was like okay if Ty takes them or whatever I'll throw Dylan Moore in there but you took Dylan Moore to play second I don't even know what to do
Starting point is 00:31:27 Taylor Ward like I said legitimately Canzone and Rayleigh do have cases here that's the best remaining right fielders I'm taking Leon I'm going to take Dom Canzone honestly Jose Ian
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah. Like I could take like Indy Chavez. Yeah, you take like a me player. Yeah. Yeah. The Mariners did an exceptional job
Starting point is 00:31:55 of just cleaning up the corner outfields because there was really not a lot and really not that many centerfielders either that didn't make the team. So the Mariners have a very good list of center field or outfielders when you look at the top 50. But it's a shallow list because that's it. Like Randy,
Starting point is 00:32:10 the two Randy's were the only ones. that I thought had like a real case to be made to be on this team who didn't make it. And so after that, we sought to pick four more guys or three more guys, whatever it is. So yeah, it, nice job by the Mariners on getting the outfield, pretty much dead on. But Randy, the two Randy's definitely deserve some consideration there. I'm sure we're forgetting somebody too, but I look hard. It's like Rich Amarole. I mean, like, what do we doing?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Vince Coleman, Ricky Henderson. Carl Everett. Milton Bradley I did consider Jose Gien but that just feels like taking a war guy instead of taking like a top 50 mariner you know what I mean like it just you're trying to draft the best player
Starting point is 00:32:55 not like the best mariner so to speak but yeah just not a lot of good options but that does leave us with the DH and there are options here we could take a traditional DH which there's still some decent options there or we can just take a guy take an extra pat yeah yeah because there's there's a couple names that we left off here
Starting point is 00:33:17 um i don't know do you want to go first here yeah i'm gonna take richie sexen big richie all right he i know it didn't end well but his first two years here he was very very good uh and i felt like he was always a little overhated and again he's his first two guys go look up his first two years here in Seattle. He was one of the best first baseman in Mariners history during that stretch. And I know there's Carlos Santana maybe could be thrown around here,
Starting point is 00:33:50 Josh Naylor, possibly, although not a lot of time here. I had a couple other guys, but I'll wait for you to make your pick before I tell you who they are. I don't think they'll surprise too many people, but I'll go Richie Sexton here is my DH, my extra hitter, more or less. I think I'm,
Starting point is 00:34:08 I think I might leave Polo off here. Because I think I'm going to take Ken Phelps. Yeah, he was on my list. He raked when he was in Seattle. Absolutely raked. And he's part of the best joke in Mariners history. That's true as well, yeah. By the way, when I was at the photo day thing,
Starting point is 00:34:29 there was this guy that met Jay Biner and he was like, I'm a big Seinfeld fan, so this is huge for me. I was like, that's why this is here for you. Cool, thanks, man. but yeah i mean ken phelps had what three seasons with a 140 plus wrc plus in seattle back in the you know mid to late 80s like that's yeah
Starting point is 00:34:54 all right so to recap uh my team my starting pitchers were um matt young and Doug fister my relievers were Matt Brash and Edwin Diaz which whoops again on that my catcher Kenji Jojima my first baseman Ty France my second baseman Delamore
Starting point is 00:35:16 my third baseman Mike Blowers my shortstop Gene Sagura my left fielder Randy a Roserana my center fielder Michael Saunders my right fielder was Domcanzone and which I mean like yeah
Starting point is 00:35:29 what we supposed to do yeah my DH Ken Phelps and then for you your starting pitchers were Marco Gonzalez and who was your second day? Jason Vargas. Jason Vargas, yeah. And then your relievers were Jeff Nelson and Rodney.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Fernando Rodney. Mike Zanino was your catcher. Tina Martinez, your first baseman. Your second baseman was Joey Cora. Joey Cora, yeah. Jino at third. Gino at third. Carlos Giana's shortstop.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Your left fielder was Tom Pachorick. And then your center fielder, Randy, when your right fielder was Leon Roberts. Yep. And then your D.H was Richie Sexton. That is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marrace podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day for Colby Patnode.
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