Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Emergency Bonus Pod: Mariners Acquire Kolten Wong For Jesse Winker and Abraham Toro

Episode Date: December 2, 2022

The Seattle Mariners have officially acquired Kolten Wong from the Milwaukee Brewers for outfielder Jesse Winker and infielder Abraham Toro. In an emergency pod episode, Colby and Ty break down the player, the cost, and the fit, while answering some questions others have already posed. Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

So after all the rumors, Colton Wong is going to be a Seattle Mariner. Let's talk about the deal. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. It is Friday, December 2nd, 2020. This is Tyning Gonzalez and Colby Pat.

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accounts is in the description below. So according to Jeff Pass and a VSPN, the Mariners have officially acquired second baseman Colton Wong from the Milwaukee Brewers for Jesse Winker and Abraham Toro. There's also $1.75 million. in cash heading over to the Mariners and the steel. So basically the money being swapped is a wash. It's flat. So it's a draw. So that's an interesting aspect of the steel.

We'll get into that a little bit. But yeah, we've heard the rumors for the last few weeks that the Mariners really like Colton Wong that they were in on his market. There was a report last night from Kim Rosenthal that the Dodgers and Giants were also in on Wong. But it's the mariners at the end of the day that come out with Wong. Wong had a $10 million player or club option rather that was picked up by the Brewers a few weeks ago. But that did not deter the Mariners from their pursuit of Wong and they finally land him here.

And they basically knock out two items on their to-do list with one deal. And that's also trading Jesse Winker who was reportedly becoming a bit of a problem. in the clubhouse amidst a stressful and struggle of a year for himself in which he dealt with a couple injuries had to have some surgeries after the end of the season, had a rough, rough season in the outfield and was not really hitting for any sort of power. That trade just did not work out for the Mariners, at least from the winker aspect of it. The E. E. E. E. E. Hino, Suarez aspect, however, did work out pretty well for them. On top of that, they give up Abraham Toro here.

Colby, what's your thoughts on this deal? What's your initial reaction? Seattle Mariners are a better baseball team today than they were 30 minutes ago. And that's really all I care about. The already complaining I've seen on Mariner's social media is something. See yesterday's episode for that rant. But no, the Mariners are a better baseball team today than they were yesterday. I mean, it's really that simple.

Winker, like you said, he had become a bit of a distraction, a bit of a problem. Now here's the deal with Jesse. He's probably going to go and he's probably going to rake. from Milwaukee. Like we had already, we've already addressed this when we talked about Jesse Winker. There's a good chance that you're probably going to trade him and he's going to go somewhere else and hit because he's done it every other point in his career.

But let's not forget Jesse Winker is a terrible defender in left field. Not only were there issues with his, you know, obviously his knee and his neck last year. There were some injury concerns there. There were also effort concerns. We had heard that, that,

you know, they weren't thrilled with the amount of work he was putting into being in, you know, playing a good left field. they weren't thrilled with that. Jesse is a guy who Mariner fans love more than the front office does. I wish Jesse well. He seems like a great guy. I don't have any ill will towards Jesse Winker at all. He just wasn't a clubhouse fit. And sometimes you take that shot and it doesn't work. There's nothing in his past. I would indicate that he wouldn't fit in this clubhouse.

The Mariners just clearly did not want that to be a part of it. But let's also not pretend that Colton Wong isn't kind of a comparable player. Jesse Winker. Like the Mariners didn't take less for Jesse Winker. They traded Colton Wong, who also has a year left to club control, just like Jesse Winker. Wong plays up the middle at a position of need that the Mariners desperately need more than a DH slash left fielder. He also crush his right-handed pitching in his career. He's a better base runner. And he's, the Mariners are assuming they're making the bet that he's a better clubhouse fit, too. This is the second time we know the Mariners have been interested in Colton Wong.

and they had a really good shot of getting him the first time if Kevin Mather hadn't stepped in and pulled the rug out from under Jerry to Potto own company. So Jerry clearly likes Colton Wong. The Mariners runoffice clearly likes Colton Wong. And when you kind of look at what this trade is, it's a rental for a rental, essentially, right? But the Mariners get the rental that's a better defender,

plays up the middle, fills a position of need. And what it costs them is Abraham Toro. And I promise you this. the Mariners weren't thrilled about giving up Abraham Toro in this trade. The Mariners still really like Abraham Toro, but at the end of the day, are the Mariners like in such a bad spot

that they can't replace Abraham Toro? No, they basically already did with Sam Haggardi. So to me, Wong is just a better fit. Just straight at like, who's a better fit on this Mariners roster? Jesse Winker or Colton Wong? All things considered, it's Colton Wong, and I'm not sure that's close. So the Mariners are better.

That's my initial reaction. there are a couple of concerns that I you know I have a lot of people have when it comes to Wong first what the hell happened to the defense last year he was first percentile announced above average after being basically a perennial gold glove candidate for many years especially during his days in St. Louis but along with that he's had two of his best offensive seasons including this past season when he posted a 116 WRC plus now the thing is uncharacteristically he was awful against left-handed pitching 138 average And let's see what that was in WRC plus. It was a 37 WRC plus but career wise

career wise he's actually been pretty good against both sides of the plate two 54 career average against the lefties but you know that's also an 80 WRC plus when you break it down further but still that's not like he's not completely utterly useless against lefties the other thing to and well I guess part of this goes into the whole defensive conversation this comes from Jason A. Churchill friend of the show at prospect insider on Twitter. He said, quote, when I asked, I was told Colton Wong just didn't move as easily and freely in the field in 2022 as in prior years, and he did have a few minor dings he dealt with for some of the year. So maybe some of it is injury, but this is going to be a big test.

This is going to be a big project for Perry Hill to get Colton Wong right, because now second base defense is all the more important with the ban of the shift. You're going to have to cover a lot more ground as a second baseman. So that's, That's really my big concern is how does he fit defensively? Because you do mention that he is a better defender and helps at a better or more important position than Winker does. But I mean, out's above average suggests that Colton Wong was one of the worst defenders in all of baseball this past season.

So how much are they able to fix them if at all? And how much should we be worried about that, Colby? I'm not. Here's the deal with defensive metrics, right? when you look at them in an isolated one-year sample size, they can tell you anything you want to say, right? So you look at Colton Wong in 2022 and you say, hey, he was one of the worst second baseman in baseball.

He's a bad defender now. Or you can look at it and say, well, it's a one-year sample, so like maybe it didn't mean anything, right? It works both ways. I'm not concerned at all because when I look at the overall track record of Colton Wong, I see a guy who is at least an average second baseman. At the very least he's average. Adam Frazier last year was not average.

Adam Fraser was mediocre at best. So I don't see this as a big deal. I'm really not concerned about the defense at all. I trust Churchill when he says there are a lot of little nagging injuries that can add up. We saw it with J.P. Crawford, right? J.P. Crawford didn't have as good of a year defensively. Why? Well, he had a peck issue, he had a knee issue, had an ankle issue.

These things pop up and they're going to pop up, you know, for a guy like Colton Long, too. It's 32 years old. But the guy has traditionally been a very good second baseman defensively. So why am I, why am I going to just only value 2022 and not 2021 and 2020 and 2019? Obviously, you weigh them differently, right? Because 2022 just happened. So you put a little more weight on that. But I am not the guy who believes that a guy goes from good to terrible in one off season or one season without there being some obvious answer to it like nagging injuries.

So to me, I'm not concerned. I think that Wong is going to be an upgrade over Adam Frazier defensively. I think he's probably going to be at least an average second baseman. I'm not really concerned about his defense, to be honest with you. We'll see what it looks like. It's certainly something that can be an issue, but it's also worth remembering, and we'll get to this little bit later. The Mariners are also kind of protected in this sense because they have Dylan Moore

and because they have Sam Haggurdy, both of whom can play second base, and both of whom were actually really good, platoon partners with Colt Long. So I'm not worried about the defense all that much. Yeah, so let's talk about that more in just a moment, but real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by betonline.net. Betonline.net is your number one source for sports betting info, stats, news, and analysis.

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37 38 minute mark so that episode will come out eventually i don't know if it's going to be today might be tomorrow but we will drop that episode still and it was a lot of fun to do that episode uh thought that was a pretty good episode of fan fiction Friday. So let's get back into this Colton Long deal, though. So you mentioned it. Dillamore, Sam Hargarty, possible platoon options with Colton Wong, probably more, more so than Haggurty because it seemed like they just wanted to avoid Haggurty playing in the infield whatsoever this past season.

It seems like he's mostly just a corner outfielder now. And that's just his role, which is fine because he's pretty good at. but this was also mentioned, I think it was Rosenthal. I think it was Rosenfall, who was the one that mentioned this, that the Mariners are, or maybe it was Bowdoin, was it Bowden? Maybe it was Bowden, who said that the mariners are interested in pairing someone with Dillamore at second base. So do you think that's the plan here?

Yep. I think more or less. Now, here's the deal. As you mentioned, Wong was terrible against Lefties this last year. But in the past he's been, you know, okay. High average, low WRC plus. Right. He's a slap hitter against lefties.

Power is relatively new to Wong's game in general anyways. But yeah, I do think the plan is if a lefty is on the mound, Dillon Moore is probably playing second base. I would say 90% of the time, obviously there's going to be days where you need Dillamore to play left field, so you just suck it up. Colt Wong is going to have to face a lefty. Like that's going to happen, right?

But I do think the plan overall is that against right-handed pitching, Wong is going to hit somewhere one through five would be my guess. And versus left-handed pitching, Dillamore will be the guy who gets, you know, a bulk of those at-bats. That would be my assumption, yeah. So you're the local Dillan Moore hater. So how do you feel about Dillamore kind of being a starter in the Mariners' offense? Well, I'll roll the tapes back to 2020.

Big Dylan Moore supporter here. But it's here's a deal. He's not a starter. He's going to start 30% of the games. That's about what the breakdown is.

And that's if he starts every single game against the lefty. And at 30% you're fine, especially against left-handed pitching. If you pick the spots in which you use Dylan Moore, he is a useful major leaguer. He is.

There's no denying that. He's got power. He's got bat speed. He steals bases. He's a good defender. He can play multiple. positions. If you pick your spots, you're fine. You can absolutely make a platoon with Dillamore work as long as Dillamore is the low side of the platoon, right? If Dillamore was a lefty who crushed

righties, well, he'd probably be an everyday player, but he's not. So I'm fine with it. I think it's, totally fine. I think it's smart. When you look at, you know, where the shortstop market is and where it's likely headed, I think, you know, going out and getting a second baseman who you already have the perfect counterpart for. It makes a lot of sense. It's good roster building is what it is. All right. So Wong's making $10 million on his club option.

Jesse Winker is making 8.5, I believe. Toro's making the league minimum. There's $1.75 million included here that's going to the Mariners and the steel from the brewers that basically just levels out all the money that's

changing hands here. So I'm going to ask you, Colby. Are the Mariners trying to save money? Are they trying to conserve money? Is this for a reason? No. How can you say they're trying to save money when they're essentially did a salary swap? Like what's the point?

By the way, if they are, who cares as long as they reinvest it? Like, why do you care? The Mariners did this trade and they saved a million bucks. Or is it making it a bad trade? No, it doesn't. The cash changing hands doesn't matter to me at all. And honestly, it's a good thing if you're the Mariners, if you're a Mariner fan because now theoretically you have more money to spend.

And by the way, the marriage just filled the biggest hole left on their roster and didn't spend a dime. So if you're a guy who's like, oh, well, they're just going to go get Colton Wong and then you say as an excuse not to sign somebody else. What are you complaining about? They can't make that excuse now. Their payroll today is the same as it was yesterday. And yet they don't have to go out and figure out what to do at second base. so now all of a sudden outfield and starting pitching their two biggest needs

they have the same amount of money to spend on that as they did yesterday what's the problem with having $1.75 million added into this deal there isn't one there's no problem it's a made up it's a made up issue

it is the money doesn't matter period okay so outfield the mariners now have even a bigger need in left field and D.H. If they want to have D.H.

Do they? In terms of bodies, at least. In terms of bodies. It's interesting. You know, at the end of last year, we're like, Jesse Winker doesn't even need to be on the playoff roster. And now three months later, we're like, oh, my God, how will they survive without Jesse Winker? I think they'll be okay. I wasn't necessarily doing that. Of course you were.

But they did lose a body, you know, an option there, right? Barely. Barely. And for the D.H. role as well, which, who knows. Jared Kellman. Who knows what they want to do with? Okay. So where do they go from now?

That's the big question, right? They didn't spend any money on this deal. So therefore they have everything at their disposal still. Brandon M.O. is still out there. We know that they had interest in him at the start of, at the start of free agency, at least. But it did kind of seem like his market was growing to a point that maybe they didn't want to go to. But there's also the likes of Andrew Benetendi out there. There's some other names.

there is also still trade options too. We've talked about Max Kepler. Maybe Max Kepler is still an option for them. But, you know, I know a lot of people now are going to shift their focus to Nemmo. Nimmo's now priority number one for a lot of Mariners fans, I would think. And some out there who think that Aaron Judge is a possible. He's not, he's not guys. He's not guys.

But yeah. Put down the bottle. So Nemo's probably the guy. But also, I think the interesting thing here is what do the Mariners do at DH? so what do you think because now Carlos Santana is in Pittsburgh Winker's gone he was the other possible D.H option

we know that they prefer to just rotate guys through there but they've been open to having a guy play DH or at least having a couple guys that mostly rotate through there so is Mitch Hanneger on the table is like what do we

what do you think their plan is from here on out to fill out the rest of their roles side note a bit of a bummer here, but Chris Martin is signed with the Red Sox. So that's one relief option, not happening. But in terms of left field, D.H., I think one thing they might try is I think they're going to be heavily involved in the Yoshita market. Yoshita is not a very good left fielder, but we know the Mariners don't care about

outfield defense. They had Mitch Aniger and Jesse Winker out there at the same time, way too much to pretend that they do. So Yoshida is a guy, I think, is interesting. And then I think what they might do is I think they might try to answer their left field D.H spot with two guys. Yoshita, primary DH plays the outfield once or twice a week. And then they give Jared Kelnick a shot in left field. But they back that up with somebody like Will Myers, who crushes left-handed pitching, is a pretty good defender out there.

So I think if you go out and you get Will Myers and Yoshita, I think you have a really good, a really good, lineup. And yes, you know, it's not ideal to sit and hope Jared Kellnick hits Ritey's, but you know what? If he doesn't, Will Myers hits Ritey's more than well enough to be your everyday left fielder as you look for a solution. And as we know, finding a corner outfielder at the trade deadline, not that hard. Yeah, but let's do let's do better than that suggestion. Let's do better than that. Why? If Jared Kelnick is hitting eighth, I think it's right-handed pitching for the first month, is that, is that devastating? Yeah, kind of, kind of. It's not. To me, it is.

To me, it is. I would rather. Well, you're an idiot. I don't know what you told. No, I get it. Look, again, it's about finding, right. It's about what you can do with your resources. Sure.

So is like, who's out there that you just, like, take Nimo off the board, right? Who's an everyday left fielder that carries more upside than Jared Kelnick? Probably isn't one. Now there's floor. Floor, right? I mean, like, you can go get. I mean, there's like, all-star upside. and like someone like Andrew Benatendi, right?

Like, yeah. I'm honestly like Benatendi, like fine. But I'd rather just spend the money on, on Nemo at that point. Like, yeah. To me, Benatendi is just like, he's just a dude more or less. Like, he's a pretty good player. Like he's a guy, but we've, but we've talked about like how much like he's a Jerry guy, right? Like he makes a lot of sense for the mold that Jerry wants.

And also I think there's a bit more power in there than he's displayed so far. He's a good defender like. And yet we never even heard Benatendi has he been linked to the Mariners at all? Has he been linked to anyone? I think about it. I can't even remember like a single rumor with him this offseason, which is weird because he had a lot of interest at the deadline.

Right. Yeah, I'm kind of supposed he's just not a Blue Jay right now. Do you want to give Benatendi like 4 and 60 and essentially lock out Jared Kalnick forever? Or do you want to go Kalnick and then just Will Myr? Myers for one and eight and just kind of be like, yeah, well, you know, if Kellogg doesn't hit this year, we're out. But the thing, too, is like, Tayasker is only on a one-year deal. We don't know if they're going to extend him.

So there's going to be more opportunities down the road, at least right now for Kellanick to get involved. Right. But how do you know Kellynick is going to be that guy if you don't give him at bats? You can't give him at bat's a AAA. That's not going to matter. Yeah. Like AAA at Bats mean nothing. So unless the Mariners are ready to give up on Jared Kelnick, I think it makes sense to kind of protect

yourself and have him go ahead and be your opening day left fielder or at least compete for it. But you have to have, here's the deal. You can't just go out and sign somebody who just hits right. Like you can't go get a Dylan Moore, right? Right. Like a very similar player to Dylan Moore and be like, well, if Keldnick doesn't hit, I guess Dylan Moore is our left fielder. No, you have to go get somebody like AJ Pollock.

You have to go get somebody like Will Myers, even somebody like Tray Mancing. You have to have a major league hitter as part of your platoon with Jared Kelnick. or the DH rotation, right? Yeah. So I think Yoshida and like Will Myers makes a lot of sense. That's probably the way I would go. I don't know what Yoshida's market is. Nobody seems to be able to nail that down in terms of what he's going to cost.

So there is a possibility that, you know, Seattle, well, we can't get Yoshida. So let's just, you know, let's go trade for Max Kepler, who's a guy, Ty, and I still really like. And I still think really fits on this roster. So there are going to be options. Do they maybe go, you know, just go get defense and go get Kevin Kiermeyer. there's some other interesting guys out there it's the guy got traded to the Mets that we've talked about the last few off seasons.

Naquin, you can maybe try that. Tommy Pham's out there. Like, there's some guys out there that you can sign. And I think the door is closed on Mitch Hanigar. I don't think he's an option, particularly if the rumors about him getting three years are true. Like, done with that. Three years, $15 million.

Yeah, yeah, that's, that's, a bit much. No chance. So, yeah. All right. So this, barring a trade of like J.P. Crawford out of nowhere, closes the door on the shortstop market officially. Unless, like...

It was probably never open. Let's just be fair about that. Yeah. So just what are your thoughts on that? Not landing one of the short stops. Not giving a deal like that, whatever it's going to end up. cost it because we don't we still don't know none of these guys have signed so we don't know what it's actually going to cost to land them and we don't know who's actually going to be able to land them

because is it another situation like with the rangers where it's just going to be a bottom of the barrel team that is willing to spend an exorbitant more amount of money than any other you know any contender that might be in on their market like what like we don't know what that market is looking like but kind of having a general idea being in the ballpark at least in terms of what that would cost what that would take to lamb one of those guys, how do you feel about not doing that and going with Wong instead? He's just, he's a stopgap right now. He's, that's all he is at the moment. They're going to have to address the situation again next winter, whether it's keeping Wong or going elsewhere with it. So what do you think about going this route instead of, uh, somewhere else? I'm totally

fine with it. Like, would I like Carlos Correa to be a Seattle mayor? Sure. That'd be fun. Trey turn. Yeah. Cool. Cool. That'd be awesome. But here's the deal, right? We don't. operate in a vacuum. The Mariners don't operate in a vacuum. They have a 26-man roster they need to think about and they can't just think about one 26-man roster at a time. We talked about this yesterday. They have to be looking ahead. And that's what they're doing. So if the Mariners come and they say, hey, look, this is the number we think we can do long term on a 7, 8, 9-year deal for one of the short stops. And the shortstop says, no, the Mariners can't be so desperate that they completely abandon their plan. The plan is working. It has.

has worked. It will continue to work. Discipline is the shortcut. So when you look at it, you know, this would be the equivalent or pretty close to. The Mariners going out and giving Robinson Canoe $70 million more to get him to come here. It doesn't work. That type of thing doesn't work. There is a limit. You cannot just go out and write blank check after blank check to these guys and just say, all right, now we'll put together a team around them. That's not how it works. Everybody has to fit. Do you want to be the angels? Do you want to be the Rangers? I don't. I'd much rather be where I am. So as much as I want a player like Trey Turner would be amazing.

It would be so fun to have Trey Turner be a mariner. Why am I going to write a $300 million check to a guy who I think is only worth $220 million? To create some buzz around the ballpark, there's already buzz with the Seattle Mariner's. I don't need to create that. You know who needed to create buzz? The 2014 Seattle Mariters. That's why they went out and they got Robinson Canoe. Because that franchise was dead.

nobody cared about it. People care about this franchise now. I don't need to be desperate. I don't need to spend money to create Buzz. I put out a good product last year. I'm going to put out a good product this year. I don't need that player unless it's at my price. I think that's a good sign.

And I think the Mariners deserve some credit for being disciplined enough not to chase the shiny toy and look at it and say, we need to fix our roster. Right. And we don't need to go out and sign this player at all cost and ignore the rest of our roster. We're not going to go give Zander Bogart's $28 million and then just be like, oh, well, you know,

here's, you know, Miguel Rojas at second base and we're good. Like, no, the Mariners are going at this at the right, you know, I think at the right strategy where they're building, they're building this team so that the lineup one through nine is as good as it can be. And the roster one through 26 is as good as it can be. So yes, I want the Mariners to, go out and get Trey Turner. That would have been amazing. I don't want the Mariners to spend

$320 million on Trey Turner if they're only comfortable giving them $230. I trust them in that sense. And you should too. It's really not brain surgery. It's not hard to see what the Mariners are trying to do. It's really not. And I think it's the way that you kind of have to work if you're the Seattle Mariners because, again, you're not going to be the Mets. You're not going to go push the luxury tax every single year. If you want to sit here and say they should, they should, that's fine, but that's not the conversation we're having because we know they're not. It is a waste of everybody's time. So yes, again, I would love it if the Seattle Mariner, it would be so much fun if the Mariners went out and signed Zander Bogarts, right? It'd also be

incredible content for us. So selfishly, yeah, I wouldn't mind that either. But you don't do that for whatever cost. There is a jumping off point where you say, we're out. And the Mariners found it. Like, do you think the Mariners really, the Mariners just did this without knowing for sure what it would cost them to even be in the conversation for any of those short stops? Of course they didn't. They knew exactly what the number was going to be and they just weren't comfortable doing it. So they pivoted. They pivoted quickly. It's crazy.

We're less than a month into the offseason. The Mariners have already fixed their two biggest holes. Or they've addressed them at least. What are you complaining about? So a couple things that I want to mention here before we hop off. You know, an underrated aspect of adding Wong is his value on the base pass. He was 17 of 23 in stolen base attempts and graded out as a plus 3.4 on Fangraph's base running metric, which is really good.

And, you know, the Mariners this past season were a fundamentally sound team. They ran the bases well for the most part. They just they don't have the upside to you know get that extra base. They didn't have that speed to you know go grind out that extra base or get that key steel that they would need in certain situations stuff like that. So Wong adds a little bit of that. So that's nice to have the other thing too. I was looking at his hard hit rates and he had a career high and hard hit rate this past season 35.2. 2% of the time he registered a hard hit which is 95 miles per hour or harder He also had a 5.4% barrel rate which is the second highest of his career and he was sitting for more power So that that showed through in his power numbers as well He had 14 home runs last season 2021 which was his career high before he beat that with 15 home runs this past season So he can also hit for a bit of power he can hit for certainly more power than Adam Fraser can so you've

added that you've added a bit more stolen base potential than Frazier the defense is still the thing that's up in the year because I just I personally still don't know exactly what went wrong there but the good news is the Mariners have Perry Hill who is a defensive wizard so again this is going to be a big project for him and fixing Colton Wong because if they can and he is providing the offense that he is on top of some pretty good defense Now, I don't think he's going to get back to gold glove caliber, but if he can just be an average defensive second baseman with the offense that he's providing,

at least against right-handed pitching, which is predominantly the most pitching that you're going to see over the course of a season, the most common pitching that you're going to see over the course of a season, then this is a great addition. But there are some question marks with this. So I'm going to be interested to see how this plays out. It's a little bit of a gamble for the Mariners

in the sense that they are going to have to address the spot again in a year's time, but we'll worry about that when we get to it and we'll see what they're able to do. You're so negative. I'm so negative. I'm so negative. He's out here raining on people's parade. Yeah, because I know a lot of people right now are very excited about acquiring Colton Wong.

It should be. The marriage is got better today. It is a good move. That is the end of the story. It's not the move that everyone wanted, but it is still a good move. I don't care what everyone wants. I want the team to get better. The team got better.

That's the end of the story. That's into the podcast. No more, no qualifiers from you. Are the Mariners a better team today than they were an hour ago? That's the end of the discussion. Good trade. That's going to do a for our show. Goodbye.

That's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on Locked on Mariners. Oh, my God. That's exactly what I wanted to happen. I'm so mad. They got better. Anyways. Back to Utah.

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