Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Fan Fiction Friday: Brandon Marsh, Nolan Jones, Davis Schneider, and More

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

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You can now get a free seven-day trial to check out the show. The link, as well as our social accounts, is in the description. of this episode. This is Fan Fiction Friday, the show where you submit your Mariners trade proposals and we grade them on the 2080 scale, 20 being the worst,

80 being the best. Let's get into them. Trident Talk here has a simple one-for-one deal between the Mariners and the Giants, Lamont Wade Jr. For Thai France. Colby, what do you think? 20.

Starting off the holidays. He's in a very festive mood. What a, Monday or Tuesday is Festivis, right, the day after Christmas. So that is when we will air our grievances, but this is dumb now. My question is, is why would the Giants do this? Because Wade and France, at their best, are roughly the same player, like in terms of just offensive output. They're about a 120 WRC plus type of guy, except Wade is a lefty.

He is cheaper, money-wise, with the same amount of club control. And he's not coming off of a really bad year. like Thai France. He is also just athletic enough that you could sneak him into the outfield on occasion, not that you want to, but you definitely can't do that with Thai France. So what's the incentive for San Francisco to take this deal unless they really like Thai France, which I guess is possible. Maybe what's, but it's, it's basically like, you know, Lamont Wade is cool, but you know, Thai France could be anything. Even Lamont Wade. Not Wade, right? Right. That's kind of his ceiling, right? Like France's ceiling is what

Lamont Wade just did this past year, right? I think you're both like 120 WRC plus guys. I don't think that obviously, you know, first baseman who can't hit 20 home runs, which Thai France has only done once, not going to be that valuable in trade talks, particularly when you're talking about a guy who is also capable of hitting 20 home runs. And again,

I think is set to make about half as much as France. It's like, what is the incentive for the giants to make this trade? There is none. So like would I rather have personally Lamont Wade than Thai France? Yes. Would I rather have Lamont Wade than Thai France if Wade's going to cost three and a half million and France is going to cost seven? Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. So if I'm the giants, why bother? What's the point? Yeah. Is it because they're too left handed heavy? But even if that's true, why tie France? Like, and why trade Wade for France?

They have Wade. They have Lee now. they have Conforto, they have Ustromski. Am I missing anyone? Lefty-wise? The catcher is left-handed at Patrick Bailey. I think is left-handed. Let's see, Flores and Estrada are both

righties. Yeah, I don't know if they're too left-handed. I don't know if that's a viable argument, but even if it is, why not just go sign Tommy Fam for $5 million instead of, you know, trading a valuable bat for, you know, coming out. Also, Bailey is a switch header. I just looked it up. So, yeah.

So, yeah, I just, I don't see, I don't see why San Francisco would do this. If you're talking about like, like France and, you know, prospect, because I think they're close enough that we're not talking about like France and Tyler Locklear. But I think we're probably talking about like France and Alberto Rodriguez or something like that for a Lamont way. Maybe. Maybe. But I just don't see any reason San Francisco would do this trade. It just, they, they spend more money on a place. whose ceiling is basically what Lamont Way Jr. did last year.

And this guy's coming off of a bad year. Yeah. I just don't see why they would do that. So 30, 35. Like, unless San Francisco just loves Thai France, which, you know, again, beauty's in the eye of the beholder. So, uh, it's, I wouldn't say it's impossible, but I would say it's highly unlikely because like, why,

what's the incentive? Yeah. I just don't see. any way the giants say yes to this and if they did we should laugh at them and ridicule them forever I mean yes as sad as I would be to see Tygo because I do like France

like the person but yeah pretty much you know you heard that folks we're going to clip that out of context I would be sad to see Tygo you heard it we all heard it we all heard it sure what I know about Ty is that he's too lazy to actually do that but maybe somebody will do it for him

but yeah San Francisco however a really good trade partner. I'm discovering here over the last few days. So keep an eye on San Francisco, but I don't see this. Maybe like maybe you Strimski for France might make a little more sense. Since they're both making roughly the same amount of money and they do have a lot of jam of outfielders in San Francisco. So maybe that's something.

But they have, but they have Wilmer. They have Wade. They have J.D. Davis. Yeah, they have a lot of France type of players who are, you know, corner infield only guys. And yeah, they already have tie France on that roster. It's J.D. Davis. Yeah, I just don't think France is a fit for the Giants unless they,

unless they have, you know, some significant overhaul of their offensive side of their roster. I think France is a better fit for teams like the twins. So that's where I would look in terms of a Thai France trade. But you never know. You never know. Yeah, you targeted the right team. You did it with the wrong player.

Mariners to the moon here has a deal with the Cardinals. Gabe Spire, Taylor, Dallard, and Spencer Packard to the Cardinals for Dylan Carlson. Kobe, what do you think? I don't think it's bad. I don't know if it's enough to get Carlson, who's about a league average hitter. I can play some centerfields. It's got three years of club control, switch hitter. I think now that they've traded Tyler O'Neill to the Red Sox, though, that they're probably less inclined to trade Carlson.

Yeah, yeah. I think that's definitely a possibility. But I do think that they're also, I do also vaguely remember them sniffing around looking for left-handed relief pitching, the Cardinals. So Spire might be of interest in them. But Dollar,

he's kind of off of a major shoulder injury. I don't think that that's going to tip the scales one way or the other. And Spencer Packard is just kind of a, he's a throw-in. As much as I like Packard, I think he might, you know, get to the big leagues.

He's not an everyday guy. and he's kind of positionless as well. So it's basically spire for Carlson. I don't think they do that, especially now that they've traded O'Neill. But I think Dollard and Packard are interesting enough that, like it might be enough, but I think it's a little light.

So I'd probably give it like a 45. I like the Carlson idea, certainly. But I think it might cost a little bit more than this. But I'm also not 100% sure because it sounds like, like the Cardinals were pretty desperate to move O'Neill and Carlson. Now that they moved O'Neill, are they as desperate? Maybe, maybe not. But I think this is a little light, but I don't know, it's totally possible.

It could be right in the ballpark. So I'd say like a 45. Yeah, I can wrap my head around it. I could see the Cardinals definitely doing this, especially if they're wanting left-hand relief pitching. Spires obviously coming off of a really nice year. Has club control all that. He's still relatively young.

I'll say like 45-50 on this. I'll give you a 50. Why not? I'm in the Christmas mood. We got more of your trades coming up in just a moment. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Airs podcast is brought to you by Fanduel. Score early this NFL season with Fandul, America's number one sportsbook. Right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 money line bet.

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Matt Brash for Brandon Marsh. This is an interesting deal. Colby, what do you think? I don't think the Phillies do this. I don't think they do either. Their outfield is like tragically bad defensively. And Marsh is kind of like the only thing holding that together, like at all. They're not going to start.

Christian Pache a lot. No, no. So I don't think they do this. I think it's, but it is four years of, of Marsh for I think four years of Brash. Brash, I'm not quite sure if he's, uh, if he got a full year in or not. Uh, but I mean, Marsh is certainly interesting.

He's going to be, uh, or he just turned 26. So, uh, that, that checks. Uh, left handed back, kind of a line drive slasher type of hit. who, if he repeats what he did last year, would hit at the top of the Mariners lineup or second. Because, you know, 270. Yeah, so, but it's 277, 372, 458 last year, 125 WRC plus.

He was a three and a half win player. My concern is this, 30% strikeout rate last year. And the walk rate more than doubled. It went from 6.1% to 12.5%. So is that an outlier or is that actually something that's real? Right. Is that Marsh like actually. Because the K rate is consistent.

Right. I mean, it's gone down each year, but it's still 30%. Yeah. And yeah, so is, is this just a guy who's settling into his,

you know, his big league career and just kind of getting comfortable and, and he's becoming the player he's going to become? Or is the 12.5% walk rate? Just not something he can repeat because if he can't if you look at what he did the year prior it was uh 2 to 2 95 on base that's not going to play because he is not a plus glove defensively um he's a good glove he's a good glove he's a good base runner not going to hit a ton of home runs not going to steal a ton of bags so he kind of

has to walk 9 10 11% of the time to put up you know really good uh obps and that's kind of what his carrying tool is hit doubles draw walks get on bait he's a hit tool over power guy and he's probably better suited for left field which is fine for seattle because they have the center fielder. Is it worth Matt Brash? Yeah. I could see this being a situation where both teams say no. I could I can also see it being a situation where both teams say yes. Like it's definitely not like it's a bad trade. It's very interesting. But if you're Seattle, how do you replace Brash without spending tons of money that you probably don't have?

If you're Philadelphia, how do you catch a fly ball with, you know, Kyle Schwarz? Swarber and Nick Castiano's and Jock Peterson. Like if you trade Marsh, Castellanos is getting time in center field. Like I guess you could go get somebody else, but like, Are they actually going to sign Jack Peterson? That would be hilarious. I think they already did.

No, they didn't. Oh, I thought that that that was done. Okay. Nah, no, no. But that would be hilarious if they did sign them. It would. So, yeah, I don't know if they do this deal. I don't know if either side does this deal because it's kind of hard to replace.

it would be harder for the Mariners to replace Brash, as weird as that sounds, than it would be for the Phillies to replace Marsh because the Phillies we know are going to spend money. And they could go get Kevin Kiermeyer or they could go get Michael A. Taylor and it kind of replaces defense that way. And their run prevention would still go up because they would add Matt Brash to their bullpen, which is already pretty good. So yeah, I don't think either team says yes to this, but it's certainly interesting. It's a good one. We don't get many like really solid just one for ones that are this good.

So just because it's. Well, especially at this high of a level too. Because we're talking about like Brandon Marsh is coming off of basically a 4-1 season. Matt Brash was one of the best relievers in baseball this past year. This is essentially talking about an all-star for all-star trade. Yeah, this is a high level trade right here that you're talking about. So considering that it makes sense. Yeah, considering that, considering that it makes sense, considering it's, you know,

player we haven't talked about much. It's creative yet. straightforward. I'm going to give this one a 60. I don't know. I don't think it would happen. But like it's a legitimately good idea. So I'll give it a 60. Yeah, I'll go 60 as well. That's actually where I was. I thought you were going to go like 55

and that I was going to wow you with the 60, but no. You beat me to the bunch. This is a good one. This is a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll I'll go 60. Um, I have concerns about Marsh. And I'm not, I'm a bit hesitant.

to pull the trigger on this personally especially because of like how am I going to address the bullpen and are the Mariners actually going to spend the money that it would take to essentially properly replace brush in the bullpen? I doubt that. So like this would put a lot of pressure on the mariners

because like they already have to basically find that Paul Seawald type. Now you also have to essentially replace Matt Brash's production on top of that and you're going to most likely have to do that from within like they've been able to turn out mid-leverage guys with ease high leverage guys though I mean Andreas Monios Matt Brash obviously Paul Sewell yeah definitely but

can they do that twice in the same year I don't know I don't know I don't know for Loner Baroa and whatever the name of the guy they got in the Gino trade because I can never remember it some reason. Carlos Vargas. I always want to say Carlos Jackson, and I know that's not right. I don't know.

I don't know. That's just the first thing that pops into my head. I'm like, it's Carlos Jackson. But that's, I don't know. That's what it is. I don't know if you saw,

but Bryce Miller posted a new video of him throwing the splitter today, about 18 minutes ago. It's nasty. It's looking pretty good. It's looking pretty good. Distraught. Speaking of Bryce Miller,

it's a Bryce Miller train to the Orioles. What a coincidence. Bryce Miller to the Orioles for Cedric Mullins and D.L. This is a similar idea to one that you had earlier this off season, way earlier this off season. What do you think about this deal? I like Cedric Mullins as a player. I was at the game where he became the best player on the planet for like 30 minutes.

And I was sitting in right center field. So I had a pretty darn good seat to watch. I like the player overall, though, just in general. But there's no question that he is probably not the guy that he was a few years ago when he went 30-30 and he was like a six-win player. He's probably a three-win player. He's a pretty good defender in center field, really good. And you can obviously he'll play up in left field or right field. But he's a 99 WRC plus bat last year.

And he only get him for two years. You get Miller for six. D.L. Hall is interesting, but. I like the arm. Yeah. I do. But there's a lot more risk with Hall than there is with Miller. And again, you're trading six years of Miller for really the only safe thing you can bet on here is, is Cedric Mullins.

I don't hate it. I don't hate it. But I do have legitimate concerns about Cedric Mullins because I don't know. Who is he? Who is he? I think he's a good player. I think they'll have stretches where he looks like a great player. But overall, he wasn't even a two one guy last year.

Now, that was in only 455 plate appearances, not 600. That's like a two and a half one player. So I don't know. I, I am struggling a little bit on how to value. Because if he missed 45 games last year, the strikeout rate went up by 4%. Yeah. In one season, the walk rate went up too. But a 305, like 233, 305, 416.

Yeah. That's tough to give up Bryce Miller for. Yeah, I've been thinking about this. since I saw the trade and our Twitter mentions and like there's definitely upside here with Mullins because I'm not super sold that

2021 is just an outlier I think he has the potential to do something like that again but if I had to yeah he was he was still like almost a four one player I think in 2020 so 10WRC plus yeah 3.6

yeah it was 3.6 Yeah. But if I had to bet money on it, I'd say he's probably closer to like a 100 WRC plus guy than he is to like a 130. And what I really need here is the bet. Obviously defense is great, but I need offensive production,

especially if I'm trading Bryce Miller. And I just don't. And look, I like D.L. Hall a lot, but he's probably better suited for the bullpen. And I think he has the potential to be a very, very good reliever. But is that worth Bryce Miller? Does that make up the difference of the lack of club control years between Mullins and Miller?

For me, no. I mean, maybe if I'm also getting like Mount Castle or Hayes or Santander, like, I'm getting a second major league bat in this deal, maybe. But I just, I can't trust Mullins. to be what I need him to be at the plate to justify pulling the trigger on this deal. Again, if it's Mullen's, like,

even if it's Mollins and like Colton Couser, right, or somebody like that, maybe I consider it, I'm more likely to consider it. But I just, Hall doesn't do enough for me to take the risk that I'm trading six years of a guy who's pretty much already shown mid-rotation, mid-rotation floor.

like six years of that guy for two years of a guy who I hope is closer to a 115 WRC plus bat than the 99 he was this year. That's a tough risk. That's that's a risk. And I don't know if I'm willing to take it. So. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah.

So I'm going to go. 45. 50. Like it's, it's not bad, but. I'm going to, I'm going to go 40. I'm going to go 40.

I'm going to go 40 because I I wouldn't do it I wouldn't do it I'm just thinking about it more and now talking it out I just I feel even more firm on that I just I wouldn't do it it's not enough for me to trade Miller you're listening to the locked on mirrors podcast thank you again for making us your first listen here on fan fiction Friday and again after the premiere of this video head on over to our other channel true to the trend it's a dead channel but we're going to use it today

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It's a Rockies deal. Rockies folks, of course, are one of two teams Jerry DePoto has still not traded with during his Mariners tenure. So this would be breaking new ground if Mark's trade came true. It's Nolan Jones and Brennan Rogers from the Rockies for Bryce Miller and Gabriel Gonzalez. Colby. Brennan Rogers is a guy who's been really interesting for a long time, but he's never put up a league average season.

Right. Like at the plate. I like how that's where you started with this with Brennan Rogers. Well, no, like I'm getting, and Nolan Jones, like, he had a very nice year last year. No doubt about that. I wonder how repeatable it is. And a lot of that is just because I don't know if he is or not because I didn't watch like, spoiler alert, I didn't watch the Rockies last year.

I didn't really see the reason to. Right. So I'm only looking at numbers here. And like I said, I like Nolan Jones. I think he's, you know, pretty good. I don't know if he fits in Seattle. I know he has played third, but they moved him to the outfield. And I don't know if he's quite athletic enough to do that, you know, seems to be a good player.

It really does, but I'm getting Bryce Miller. Like, I trust Bryce Miller. I feel like I know who Bryce Miller is. I don't know enough about Jones to feel good about making that swap. And then I'm also giving up Gabriel Gonzalez, who, while I'm not high on, I still think that that is a bit of an overpay for somebody like Rogers. Because like I said, Rogers hasn't done anything really at the plate. So for me, if it's Miller for Jones, like. I could wrap my head around that.

Sure. But I think at that point, I'd rather just keep Gabriel Gonzalez and then go try and trade him for the pitcher I now need to replace Bryce Miller. So I'm a little on the fence about this. I don't like the inclusion. If it was just Jones for Miller straight up, I think that's a solid 50, maybe 55 because again,

new player that we haven't talked a lot about, pretty straightforward deal. I think the Rockies definitely need some pitching. They always do. but, and kind of a team that we haven't talked about. So it kind of hits all those checkpoints, but I just, I don't, the Rogers and, uh, the Rogers and Gonzalez thing kind of throws me. I just don't have a lot of interest in Brennan Rogers anymore.

It's kind of like Ryan McMahon, right? You're like, okay, maybe this is the year he breaks out. And then every year it's 95 WRC plus and you're just like, not that exciting. So, so Jones was actually, better away from Coors this past year. 148 WRC plus to a 121 at home.

Park Factor's actually has him hitting for five more home runs at T-Mobile Park than he did this year. 25 home runs at T-Mobile compared to 20. I know that the Rockies need pitching.

I just don't know if they're willing to trade Nolan Jones for it. Now, let's let's say this. We say this every time we've talked about, the Rockies, they're weird. They literally make no sense. Like everything they do makes zero sense on paper. I just give Charlie Blackman like a

multi-year extension. Yeah, yeah. Didn't they give Daniel Bard like three years or something that like 38 years old or whatever it was? Yeah. They bid against themselves for the corpse of Chris Bryant. Yeah.

They extended what's his name? The pitcher who everybody thought was really good but never actually was. Yeah. Like past his expiration date. Like they're just a bad, they're bad baseball like organization. So you never know.

Yeah. I would heavily consider this if I'm the Mariners. I just don't think that the Rockies are going to do it because they now have a controllable young major league piece that has produced and he's not just producing at their home ballpark. I think they just want to continue collecting pieces rather than trading away from from their major league roster at least in terms of the top end because Jones at least from this past year looks like he could be a future multi-year all-star

if he does what he did this past year I don't like the Gonzales rogers part Jones for Miller is certainly interesting although I think Colorado probably says no so I'm going to give it a solid 50 it's not bad I'll give it a 50 yeah I'll give it a 50 uh yeah I like Jones a lot uh and I would definitely consider this I forgot where Seattle, but I just don't think it would happen. All right, next trade here from Alex. It's a three-team deal. This one's complicated.

Mariners, Mets, and Twins. Mariners receive Royce Lewis, Max Kepler, and Jeff McNeil. Mets receive Jorge Polanco and Justin Topa. Twins receive Bryce Miller, Thai France, and Alex Ramirez. All right, we have one more trade to go over, so I don't want to spend too much time on this, and we're already kind of overtime, but what do you think? no what is what is the met's purpose and this deal because i feel like just to get it deal yeah i feel like

yeah no i i feel like that's their only purpose right we talked about this last fan fiction friday the problem with a lot of these three team deals that we get is like why is this third team actually here like what is the practicality of and this feels like it's just to serve the mariners side of the trade rather than serve the trade itself to help facilitate the trade that they bring something that neither of these teams do. So I just I look at this deal though overall and I just like you got to be careful with Jeff McNeil. We don't even know if he can throw like he's coming off a major surgery and he was coming

off a bad year too. So like there's some questions with with McNeil. Kepler's a rental as much as I like him. I don't think the twins are going to trade Royce Lewis. I highly doubt it particularly for Bryce Miller and Ty France and Alex Ramirez like nah that's not yeah for them to give Lewis Kepler and Polanco no because they can keep Lewis and just trade Kepler and Polanco separately and accomplish their goals and again if if the Mariners want Royce Lewis and Max Kepler and

all that so like these two teams actually want to make that deal essentially they can Alex Ramirez and Jeff McNeil don't need to be a part of it like they can just make this deal on their own, the twins of the mayor. So again, I just don't really see what the purpose of the Mets is here, except for the fact that the mariner's also get Jeff McNeil. Or I guess part of the motivation here is that we know that the twins really want to get rid of Polanco and Kepler because they're cutting payroll this year. And while the Mariners probably aren't willing to take on the salary of Kepler and Polanco, the Mets are rich. Sure. like they might be willing to take on that money.

But are they going to go from McNeil to Polanco just to get Topa while also having to give up Ramirez? Probably not. So I think this whole thing, honestly, though, I think it falls apart with Royce Lewis. I just don't see any way the twins are actually going to trade Royce Lewis. Be great if they did. I just don't see it. So, yeah, I mean, if I can give up Bryce Miller, Thai, France, and Justin Topa and get Lewis Kepler and McNeil or Polanco even, like, yeah, in a heartbeat. I'm doing backflips.

Yeah. I just don't see it. I think this is a little bit of wishful thinking. So, you know, mixing in the fact that it's a three-team deal and all that, valuation is probably a little light for the Mariners to get probably the most valuable players. I mean, Lewis has questions, mostly health, but we get this one like a 40. I think it needs work. Yeah.

Well, also, the whole, like, the Mets have money. So that's why they're here is to take on Polanco. That doesn't really make sense because I think McNeil's making like the same amount of money this year. Yeah, he is. He's making $10.2 million. So that doesn't even really work from that aspect. Yeah. Yeah.

So it's just like you don't want, if you don't want McNeil or if you want McNeil, then just go make a separate trade for him because whether you get big neal or polanco you're paying the same amount in this trade so yeah uh i would be really happy if if the mariners could find a way to walk out of this offseason with royce lewis and like um you know with royce lewis and and max kepler and a third bat in the mold of polanco or i would be very happy even if it costs very very I just don't think it's likely, I would say. Yeah. It's fun.

No. I don't think it's likely. Yeah, there's a lot of holes here. It's like I'll give you, you know, it's creative. It's interesting, but it's, there's just so many holes here. So I'm still going to give it like a 40 at most, but I'm leaning towards a 35, but I'll say 40. I'll go strong 40 at least. Okay.

All right. Last trade of the day comes from Mark, Emerson Hancock, Sam Haggerty, and Tyler Locklear for David Schneider and Tim Meisel for the Blue Jays. I'm not interested in the mustache. No, I'm not interested in paying high for basically the Blue Jays Jose Cabiero. No thanks. I'm good. Tim is a fine. He was better.

We're like six weeks. He cares. I don't think he ever stopped, though. Because, but here's the deal. Like, I'm, that guy's like 27 years old. I'm supposed to give up a package that could. He's 24. He's 24.

Whatever. Whatever. I'm, this guy, like, I'm not buying this guy. This guy wasn't nobody, right, coming up from the system. He comes up. Sure. He plays well for six weeks. And I'm supposed to give up a package that I can use to go get like a guy who's been good for half a decade.

Like, no, I'm not doing that. Tim May's a good reliever. whatever. I'm not doing backflips over Tim Mesa. So no, I'm not interested in this. Like if I'm trading Lockley or if I'm trading Hancock, who by the way, still unfortunately really important to me right now because of where my pitching rotate, my depth is, no, I'm not doing this. Not interested. L, L take, L take.

That's only because Snyder smoked the minors and then came up to the major leagues and he smoked the major leagues too. like, dude, he got on base at a 404 clip. He's slugs 6.033. I thinks he has found the next Joey Votto is really what's happening here. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep.

That's exactly what I just said. When in reality, he's found the next Dylan Moore. Whoopty-do. So, no, not interesting. Two full wins on 141 played appearances. And just 35. Oh, that's sustainable. Two full wins.

12 win. 12 win player, David Schneider. Yeah, that's totally. But like, if he, even if he regresses, like is he like a 115 WRC plus guy? I think that's, I don't think that's fair to project.

I don't think that's fair to project. For Emerson Hancock, Sam Haggerty and what was the other piece? He's going to end up in the minors this year. Okay. All right. All right. He's going back now.

So yeah, I'm not falling to this. It was Locklear, Haggerty and Hancock. I don't know about it. I would do this. I don't say this is because you're just in the stash. Right.

So. right we got to go so 35 tie you give it your 55 and it'll be our most polarizing like trade great i'll say i'll say 45 because i like it but the blue jays would probably say no so they'd be stupid if they did Tyler locklear is paul goldschmidt we've been over this right he's pita lonszo he's all of them and won yeah albert poohels maybe and david Snyder is apparently just Jose Cabbier. He's Dillmore. Dillmore.

He's fine. All right. Pyes over here talking about like, oh, look, I just found the next Joey Votto. Mm-hmm. Mr. 300, 400, 500. With a 12 F-4 season in his future. Yep.

It was actually 300, 400, 600. Yeah. And because he only got 150 plate appearances, well, you multiply that by four. Oh, yeah, he's an eight and a half win player. He's better than Julio. There you go. Yep.

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