Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Fan Fiction Friday: O'Hearn, Ramírez, and More

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

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All you have to do to check that out is click the link in the description of this episode. It's Fan Fiction Friday, the show where you submit your Mariners trade ideas and we grade them on the 2080 scale based on things like creativity, uniqueness. And of course, if it makes sense for not just the Mariners, but the other team as well. So let's get into him. All right, Blake has a deal here with the Royals. Mayors receive Vinnie Pasquantino and Lucas Erseg for Harry Ford,

Johnny Farmello, Ty Pete, and Jared Sunstrom. Yeah. On the surface, this probably seems fine, but there's one kind of major flaw with this trade proposal. The Royals aren't going to be interested in Harry Ford. three of their top four prospects are also catchers. And so unless the Royals think Harry Ford can play somewhere else, and maybe they do. Or maybe they just think he's better than all the catching prospects that they have.

Yeah, they probably don't. But if they do, fine, whatever. But even then, how many good catching prospects do you need in your system? Now, Farmello, though, is because you kind of have not even really co-headliners here. you have two top 100 guys for a reliever who's good, but doesn't miss a ton of bats, doesn't get a ton of strikeouts. And a first baseman who doesn't hit for as much power

as a first baseman should. So you kind of have a high leverage guy who doesn't strike guys out. You have a first baseman who doesn't hit home runs. These are flawed kind of profiles here. And you're paying a little bit right now for club control, more so than impact, I think. Yeah. But you're still giving me.

We're not impactful prospects. Like, Farmello is a headliner to a good player. You know, and Tai Peet and Sunstrom are actually legit, blotter. Like Sunstrom, yeah, probably not. He's older for a prospect, but he's a nice prospect. He's got pop. He's got some speed.

He can play a little bit of defense. He might be able to play for a major league team this year at some point. Maybe. Yeah. In Tai Pete, we talked about. He's all upside. Farmello, very similar to Pete, in terms of he's all upside.

It's just the production has been there, although the health hasn't. So, yeah, this is an interesting package. I think it's a little too heavy on the top end for Pasquantino, just because of how, like, he's not, he checks a lot of boxes. I'm out on Pasquitino with what I think it's going to cost, especially if it costs this. Because let's just remove control more than impact.

Let's remove the, the catching prospect aspect of this. Let's just say, yeah. Harry Ford and Johnny Farmello with Pasquantino doing a lot of the heavy lifting on that front. Not all of it because AirSeg has been really good. And there's a lot of value there with AirSeg. But Pasquentino, again, doesn't hit for a ton of power. No. So 104 WRC Plus this year is a Career 112 WRC Plus bat.

Solid player. Pretty good hitter. Not the kind of traditional. first base output that you would like though and not someone that i'm trading two of my better prospects for no or at least in part four right because airsac does carry a at least a little bit of the value that ford and uh farmella bring to the table here but yeah just it's it's definitely the club control that's uh doing a lot of the heavy lifting here in terms of the value on pascatino for that reason. I'm out on him.

As a player, fine. Totally fine player. But for what it's likely going to cost, because he still has what, two and a half years of club control. Yeah. I'm good. I'm going to pass on him. So three and a half years for

Pasquantino, I think. Yeah. I just Oh, so, so, so yeah. Because again, club control is king in trade talks. especially for Jerry to Poto especially for a lot of teams that operate very similarly to the Marrars and so for that reason the Royals are going to put a premium on that

because Pasquitino is a proven major leaguer that still has multiple years of club control but because of that premium relative to who Pasquitino ultimately is as a player is limitations positionally I'm good. Yeah, I just, I don't think the impact that you're going to have is substantial enough to pay for the, like, it's one thing of a guy has three years of club control and he's a 135 WRC plus guy. Then like, okay, not only do you get the plus production, but you also get three years with Pascontino, it's, you mostly get three years of a, you know, a slightly above average hitter.

And that's what you're paying for. I'd rather just pay for three months of an above average hitter and then figure out the position this winter when there'll be more options available to me. So 45, I don't think it's terrible valuation. I don't like the idea that much for Seattle. No, I think the valuation is close, if not on the money. So I'm not going to drop your grade down too much. I just, I don't like the Paso-Metino idea in general. so I just wouldn't do this if I were the Maris.

I wouldn't like to see them do this. I think it's a bit too rich for a player like Pasquitino. So I'll still give it a 45 to a 50. But yeah, I just don't really like the deal personally for the EMS. All right, we will go over more of your trades here in just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of the Lockdown Marys podcast is once again brought to you by game time. Have you ever decided at the last minute to head to a Mara's game either by yourself or with friends or family? You know, maybe it's game day and suddenly you realize I want to be in the

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lucas airsug the orioles receive daniel lynch ashton izzie troy Taylor and the Royals get Hess and Kierstad, Brennan Garcia, and Tai Pete. And there's a poll that accompanied us like all of Jages mock trades that he puts out there. 42% said all teams would agree to this. 29% say the Orioles say no. 22% say the Merrists say no. And 7% say the royals say no. Yeah, I don't know because a lot of this will bank on what the Orioles think of of Lynch, obviously, because Izzy is the pure lottery ticket and Taylor is a pure reliever.

Like, there's no surprise. He's been bad this year. So it's it also banks on like, do you think you have the fix for them? Yes. The Orioles, kings of developing pitching. Exactly.

But like for the Orioles, from an Orioles perspective, they're giving up O'Hern who's probably their most valuable trade chip that they're actually one of the trade. You know, and Kest, or Kestin, Heston Kirstad, who's just been an absolute disaster, but do you want to throw him in when you're already giving up O'Hern? Like, do you want to trade them in the same deal? And the big prize for that is Daniel Lynch.

I mean, if they really like him, they might do that. And maybe they also really like Izzy, who certainly is a noteworthy prospect. But I don't think he's a super exciting one, as they can stand right now. You know, like the Royals getting Tapeed. And like, honestly, if I were, if I were the Orioles, I'd be like, why am I getting, why am I getting Troy Taylor? Give me Brandon Garcia. I want Garcia. So I want Tai Peat.

The Royals are getting the best prospects that the Mariners are giving up, but the Orioles are the ones giving up the best piece in the trade, the best major league piece in the trade. So I think the Mariners are getting a little too much here. I think that the Orioles are getting enough for what they're giving up in this trade. Although honestly, they could DFA Kirstat tomorrow and I'd be like, oh, okay. Like, because he's been bad. He's just been bad.

So, yeah, it's an interesting trade. A lot of like, I don't want to say smaller names, but just kind of a lot of like mid-tier prospects, kind of exchanging hands here. And I don't think a bulk deal, you know, three-team deal is going to get you Ryan O'Hern because if I'm the Orioles, I'm looking at this and I'm being like, you go work on a separate deal for or SEG. Yeah, I think all these names not being that significant is what ultimately hurts this deal. And the purpose of three team deals and the purpose of bringing a third team in is to facilitate

something that one of the other teams doesn't have. And I just don't see that here with this deal. I just see a couple players that the Bears could just go get on their own and two separate deals. Yeah. Because I do think that if Baltimore wants bulk for Ryan O'Hern instead of like one big piece, which, you know, Mike Elias is nuts. So kind of hard to know one way or the other. But like if your package that you're giving up is like Brandon Garcia, Tai Pete and Ashton Izzy,

like that's a pretty good bulk package for Ryan O'Herns. Sure. But, you know, this deal, the Orioles are only getting Taylor and Izzy. They're not even getting, I mean, Daniel Lynch, like. I don't know. I just, I don't think that it feels like two separate trades that you tried to cram together into one trade.

And again, like, I think Baltimore is going to want one big piece for O'Hern. I think the Mariners are going to prefer more of a, a bulk type of package. So I think from a mayor's perspective, this is roughly what they would like to give up for O'Hern. I just don't think the Orioles are going to take it.

And again, I think the presence of the royals, like the royals are getting, Kirstad and like, how are the royals getting a better prospect package, in my opinion, than the Orioles, when the Orioles are the one giving up the biggest piece. Yeah. So, yeah. I would say the Orioles say no. That would be where my vote would go on this.

So I really don't get anybody who thinks the Royals would say no, which is why I don't have seven percent, I suppose. but the Mariners, I would do this. Yeah, of course I would. So I think the Orioles are the hang up here. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'll go 40. Yeah.

All right. Next trade here from Jeremy. Jose Ramirez to the Mariners for Colt Emerson, Harry Ford, Ryan Sloan, and Ben Williamson. I just don't think you're going to get Jose Ramirez without trading one of the starting pitchers. probably Miller or Wu someone who hasn't started making money yet

that being said would I give up Bryce Miller as part of a package to get Jose Ramirez yes I would without hesitation but the deal that were you put in front of us three really good prospects and then Harry Ford

misdirect but three really good prospects then Ben Williamson I assume Williamson is there to take the place of Ramirez. He's a throw in. Here's a major league third baseman to play for you. Maybe you get something out of them. I don't think this is enough to entice the guardians from trading Ramirez.

I think they should be open to trading Ramirez just based on where they are. And last year they got pretty darn fortunate to be where they were. To me, this is a team that is just a couple years away. We know they'll restock. We know that they'll be back, but I don't think this is the year. I think we're kind of seeing who the Guardians actually are this year and who we thought they were going to be last year a little bit. So I think trading Ramirez would be great for them. And, you know, Colt Emerson is an awesome prospect.

Does Harry Ford cover enough, carry enough upside, though, to be the second piece in this deal? Or are they going to want Laz? Are they going to want, you know, Farmello? I think Ford might be looked at as a third. third piece in a deal for a guy like Jose Ramirez. So yeah, I like the boldness. I think that, unfortunately, I think it would be something like Emerson, Bryce Miller, Ford, and Sloan.

I think it would cost like those four guys to get the guardians to listen to your offer. Williamson to me just doesn't carry any value in this trade. So yeah, it's, I appreciate the boldness. but I think it's too light of a package. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't think you're getting away with this without one of Miller, Wu, or maybe Kirby or Gilbert.

Maybe, but they're starting to make a little bit of money via arbitration. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll go, yeah, I was going to go 40.

Okay. Ian has a deal here with the Nationals. Felon, Sorensela son, Gerangelo, Sanja, Tai Pete, Nash and Izzy to Washington.

for C.J. Abrams. I think you're missing the headliner. And I know you think it's Celestin. It's not. And I also just don't know why the nationals would do this. Like, it seems like they're starting to turn the corner. They're still probably a year or two away from truly competing. But Abrams and Wood are obviously a huge part of that turnaround for that organization. Just don't see them going.

you know what actually we're going to we're going to hit the brakes if abrams had another you know kind of let down year like he had did last year or maybe some of the off the field stuff continued this year then we could have more of a conversation about this but it hasn't abrams has been incredible this year right this is a trade package you should have sent us in the winter because it would make a lot more since then but unfortunately now we have three four months of abrams being a top five or six shortstop uh definitely playing out defensively, but top five or six shortstop in baseball offensively. And they still have them for another two years after this year, I believe.

Yeah. Felman's kind of taken a step back this year. Pete, we've talked about being just such a wild card. I don't think this even gets them to return your call to be right. Like, they really need pitching. And Sanja just doesn't carry that high enough ceiling. I mean, like, St. Joe is not Andrew Painter. You know, he's not Bubba Chandler.

And I think you need a guy like that to get the Nationals to pick up the phone on Abrams or you need to be willing to move Miller or Wu. Maybe Kirby, though, and Gilbert, because the Nationals will spend money. So that's not really a huge thing there. But I think he's going to take one of those major league pitchers along with the prospect package similar to this to get them to answer the phone on Abrams. But you should definitely check in. you should definitely do your due diligence here and uh you know if you could get them for this

that would be a home run sure but i just you can't i don't think this i don't think this interest them peaks their interest really at all yeah uh i'm gonna go 35 yeah sounds about right 35 40 the great gno raymond tata has a deal for ronald accunia it's a cunia for luke reilly Cole Emerson Lazaro Montes Harry Ford and Michael Morales Again like we talked about with the Jose

Ramirez deal I just don't think you're getting him without throwing in one of the pitchers Yeah Rayleigh He's not going to replace The Kirby or the The Wu or the Miller Of it

Even though he's a nice major league piece So that's just not going to work You know, might be interesting. I don't think this would make much of it, but the Braves really need a shortstop. And so if you really wanted to try and keep your pitching together, you might be able to offer them J.P. Crawford in a package where obviously it would still be Colt and Lazz and Farmello. And, you know, it's just the thing with Acuna is that the Braves,

if they are even going to entertain this, they're going to give you the price and you either have to pay it or you hang up the phone. They're not going to give you a discount. And this feels like a discount. As weird as it is to say, you know,

these are three top, you know, 50-ish prospects in baseball, depending on what publication you look at. A good major leaguer in Luke Rayleigh, who's still under club control for three years,

you know, kind of a number five type of starter or whatever. I think that the Braves would look at this and be like, it's not enough for us to, consider moving. You have to blow their socks off, and I don't think this does it. I think you need to replace Rayleigh with at least J.P. Crawford to maybe get them slightly interested, but probably more realistically, Miller or Wu or Kirby, maybe Logan, but I don't think the Mariners, I think the Mariners

would much rather trade George Kirby than Logan Gilbert, but that's just a hunch. I have no idea. Like, I'm not trying to report anything there. But, yeah. I think you need a major leaguer to kind of co-headline with your prospect package. It has to be one that makes sense for Atlanta. And to me, that's one of the arms or it's J.P. Crawford. And even J.P. Crawford, it's like you might have to give up somebody else too. Well, and with J.P., Atlanta only gets him for a year unless they want to extend him. And obviously, you're not going to a factor or a potential extension into the trade costs.

So, yeah, so I don't even really know how much sense that makes for Atlanta. Yeah, I mean, you're going to have to do something pretty big here to get Atlanta's attention, especially because like, all right, let's let's comp it to the Juan Soto deal for a second. Colt Emerson isn't McKenzie Gore or James Wood or James Wood. He's a, yeah, like you need a bigger headliner than Cole Emerson and an Acuna deal. And the only way that you can do that without it being, obviously, like Julio or Cal it's one of the pitchers yeah so

just right fast might not even be that guy so it probably is Gilbert Kirby or Wu maybe I threw this out yesterday to a mutual just to gauge their reaction Colt Emerson Laz Montez Bryce Miller Michael Arroyo

Gerangelo Sanja for Acuna and Miller admittedly might have to be like Kirby. Yeah. I think that's like the bare minimum type. Like Harry Ford's not going to do much for them. They have Murphy. They have Baldwin.

Then they're going to want pieces that are relatively close to the big leagues. And Arroyo and Laz are both in AA and playing well there. So they're probably up by next year. Emerson's a guy who can move very quickly. And so is Sanger. And then obviously Kirby or Miller would slide right into their rotation. I mean, Miller, when he's healthy, but either those guys would start right away. And they would have those two guys for at least as long as they would have had a Coonia.

I think that's what it's going to take, something like that. So I just don't think that this is a big enough of, you know, enticing enough for the Braves to really heavily consider it. So for that reason, I got to go 40. But, boy, I tell you what, if the mares could pull this off, I'll build. the Jerry to Poto statue myself. So it won't be good, but I'll do it. But yeah, I just don't think this is enough to get a player like Acuna. And they need to pay more and they should pay more like we talked about yesterday.

Yeah. So I'm going to go 40. Yeah. All right. Last deal of the day comes from Brandon. Mariners get Ryan O'Hern and Ramon Luriano from the Orioles for Harry Ford, Tyler Locklear, and Jared Sunstrom. So not only do you get the first space bat that you need, you also get a right-handed outfielder, which is kind of a underrated need-ish for the M's.

So, yeah, what do you think? Again, it comes down to what do the Orioles think Harry Ford can do other than catch? They have Adley. They have Adley. They also have Basile. Yep. So I know Mariner fans seem to really want to be Harry Ford to be the one that can. gets given away, traded, whatever.

But because of Ford's positioning, because of the, you know, big, you know, difference in opinion that a lot of front offices are going to have about him, you really have to look at what the other team would do with a guy like Harry Ford. And he just doesn't make sense for a team like Baltimore, unless they think he can be like an outfielder or he could play third or something like that. And even then, it's going to take them time to teach him how to do that. So his value is going to be a little bit lower than it would be otherwise. So I think in this case you would need to remove Harry Ford.

But I also think that going to somebody like Farmello is too much. Going to somebody like Ryan Sloan is too much. Going to somebody like maybe a Michael Royo, but their infield's pretty good. So you kind of look around and you go, okay, they probably want an outfielder. Who in the Mariners system is an outfielder? and it's it's farmello and it's las you want to give up either of those guys for two months of rhino herne and ramon laureano who's you know a part-time player i don't i don't know i i wouldn't give up uh farmello uh and i probably wouldn't give up las so at that point is the deal dead

because i don't think ford carries enough value for them to to consider this because of who they already have in-house at the catcher position so Yeah. Yeah, my, my starting point with the Orioles on like O'Hern is like, hey, here's Logan Evans, who has major league experience. A ton of club control. You need pitching. Yeah, he's probably not a mid-rotation starter, but he's, he can be a number four for you. Maybe. Yeah. For, for two months of a first base only. Still a platoon guy, like. And if I have I. going to give up a premier prospect like a top 100 type i'd rather do it for nailer who's got a longer track record has been better yeah just in general can help me and maybe i can work out a bigger thing there

where i also get geno yeah like so i don't want to sell assets to and again plus even if i can't get o'hurn and i can't get nailer okay then i guess i'm going to go try and get carlos santana i'm guess i'm going to go try and get willie castro and just have him play first base for me like There are other options at first base. So if I can't get the guy I want at the price I want, I'm going to look elsewhere at that position. And also, by the way, with Luke Rayleigh, you know, back and healthy, with Donovan Salonzo, swing the bat a little better.

With the changes we've seen from Tyler Locklear, I'm not desperate for first base. I'm still looking to upgrade there. Don't get me wrong. But like I can upgrade in right field and just make Luke Rayleigh my primary. You just see the bat wherever you can get it. Right. And first base is obviously a place where there's going to be a lot of options.

That's the only reason you're really in on first base because, yeah, push comes to shove. I know they've tried to avoid this a ton, but just put greatly up for space. If that's really what this ultimately has to come down to. Just put them at first base. And, you know, call a blocklier, right? Give that a shot. Maybe platoon them for a little while because you're probably not going to build enough depth where even though that I don't like the idea of a first space platoon. it's probably more valuable to you than whatever you're going to have as your your bench probably

even though it shouldn't but no but first base is like the one position of need that i feel like the mariners are best positioned to kind of fix in-house yeah uh and you could again you can eliminate your first base need by acquiring an outfielder like an everyday outfielder which is also a corner outfielder that's also a position that is usually pretty easy to go to come upon in july so yeah I don't think the or I continue to say this. I don't think the Orioles are as clean as a fit as a lot of people do, as a lot of people have assumed for the last couple of years. I still continue to struggle to see a lot of it.

And O'Hern is just a guy. I'm not willing to break the bank for. If I can get them in a bulk deal, fine. If I can't, I'll look at other options. I just, I'm not paying a premium prospect for Ryan O'Hern. It's not happening. But yeah, it's,

again, I just think the Orioles aren't the team to look at here with the trade talks. But, you know, 45. Like valuation-wise, I could see it. Like, that seems like a reasonable asking price for Baltimore. But again, I just don't think Seattle and Baltimore line up all that well. And I don't think they have for the last three years, despite everybody just drilling that idea into your head. I disagree with them.

Yeah, agreed. All right. Well, that is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for all of your trades and for joining us here on the Lockdown-Marras podcast for Colby Patnode. I'm Ted Nogales. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L.O. underscore Mariners. You can follow me at Taday Gazzalus and Colby at CPAT 11. That's CPAT 1-1. We're also on blue sky. You can follow me at TDG, Colby at MLB Colby and the show at Locked-on Mariners.

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