Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Fan Fiction Friday: One-For-One Prospect Swaps and More Mariners Mock Trades

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

Yesterday afternoon, the Seattle Mariners announced they had signed their former centerfielder, Leonys Martin, to an MiLB deal with an invite to Spring Training. Ty and Colby are happy, but a bit conf...used. They discuss the recent NRIs signed by the team. Then, the guys grade your trade ideas, including deals for Scott Barlow, Alec Burleson and C.J. Cron! Plus, an announcement about the show going into next week!Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Join our Slack!FanDuelMake Every Moment More. Place your first FIVE DOLLAR bet to get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in Free Bets – win or lose! Visit Fanduel.com/LockedOn today to get startedBuilt BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of Locked-on Mariners, we've got a couple cool minor league signings to talk about it, and then we're going to get into your mock trades for fan fiction Friday. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. What's up, everyone? It is Friday of February 10th, 2023. This is Tadang Azales and Colby Patnaud for the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Brought to you by Fandul, the official sportsbook of the Lockdown Podcast Network. Make every moment more.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Visit fanduel.com slash locked on today to get started. Thank you so much for making us to your first listen. Subscribe, like, internal alerts if you're watching on YouTube or subscribe and leave a five-star review on your preferred podcast platform. If you like what you hear. And if you want to hear from us even more, please consider signing up for our Patreon. The link as well as our social accounts is in the description below. It is Fan Fiction Friday today. That's the show where Colby and I react to and grade your Mariners trade proposals.
Starting point is 00:00:56 We'll be getting into those a little later on, though. We have a couple things that we have to cover here before we do, including the fact that we are going back to our full slate starting on Monday, five shows a week. Yes, we are back to five shows a week starting on Monday because pitchers and catchers for the WBC are reporting on Sunday. And then the rest of the pitchers and catchers who are just participating in spring training overall, going to be reporting a couple days later. And we're going to be in the full swing of things here for spring training. So yeah, you guys are getting a whole lot more of us. Colby is very excited, very thrilled about that. We're also going to be doing some shorts,
Starting point is 00:01:36 going to be doing some other things here to give you guys some content. But yeah, we're going to be full go from next week all the way to the winter meetings, essentially this December. I'm so excited. I just can't hide it. That's right. All right. I know something that will excite you, though.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Leonis Martin is back, Colby, our boy. We love Leonis Martin here. We stand Leonis Martin here on the Lockdown Mariners podcast. This is one that I was not expecting to see. We got a couple of non-raster invites over the last couple days. There's a lot of guys that we've looked at as possible non-roster invitee candidates. But Leonis Martine certainly did not ever cross my mind. He's been over in Japan for the last few years coming off of a pretty down.
Starting point is 00:02:27 year for him, but he is back. He's going to get an opportunity here to find his way back into major league baseball. The thing here that I'm really interested in, you know, Leonis is still only 34 years old, but kind of curious, you know, notoriously just a great clubhouse guy. I kind of wonder if this is maybe the first step for him to get more involved with the organization as like an advisor or a coach or something along those lines. But yeah, Colby. Leonis is back.
Starting point is 00:02:55 What do you think? Well, I think it's disrespectful to just assume his career is over. So, you know, shame on Utah. You're going to be shocked when he gets 400 played appearances as the left fielder and puts up three wins. So I'm done for, I'm done for the last part. Sorry, Jared. It's, it's lay on this. And, you know, some of us were more excited than other.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Some of us wanted to do an emergency pod. Others didn't. I don't want to name names, but I think the direct quote was like, why would we, why would we do an emergency pod about a camp body, which whoa again disrespectful to leonis hey if you have 20 to 30 minutes worth of content on leonis martin by all means how could you do it yourself if you're the guy had a mariachi band follow him around spring training one day i mean come on like hey and also if you're the star of the show you can do it on your own man if you're the talent i could i am trying to throw you a bone all right you need to be more grateful when i'm trying to throw i'm trying to throw you a bone and you know and say you want to hey you're You are actually the start of the show. Let us know in the comments down below, guys. Now, let us know in the comments down below, you know, who do you think would be better at a solo show? The answer is probably tie, but.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Well, considering that I have actually done a solo show before. Yeah, and it went great. Anyways. Actually, it did pretty well. Numbers. Don't make me pull the receipts. I'll pull the receipts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Then you can pull all the receipts of the 10,000 view episodes that we have and see, oh, who's on those ones? Me. Interesting. Anyways, so yeah, I don't know what Leonis's role is going to be, you know, and it's, the odds that he makes the team are obviously very low. But it is interesting. You know, he's 34 years old. He really showed power, which we kind of already knew what he had, but he really showed it in Japan. It's a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Numbers in Japan power numbers typically don't translate as much as you would like. So obviously those get taken with a grain of salt. but it's one of those things where we'll have to see what he looks like. Can he still run around a little bit? Can he still play the field pretty well? I'm sure he still has a really strong arm. We'll have to see what the bat speed looks like. But yeah, it's interesting that they signed him.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And there doesn't appear to be much of a path for him to make the team. So I do think it's fair to ask, you know, is he here as kind of like a last hurrah before the Mariners maybe, you know, asking to be a roving instructor. or some kind of, you know, ambassador to the organization. Because he's a really good clubhouse guy. You're not going to, you know, you're going to have some at-bats to give with the WBC going on. And listen, maybe he sticks around in AAA Tacoma or maybe it's, you know, I try to make the team. I don't.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I retire. And now I'm part of the organization. It is interesting. You know, he did post on Twitter yesterday that he was coming home to Seattle, which is, it's nice to see. It really is because Leonis, you know, has been around a few clubs. And, you know, maybe it was just a figure of speech. I don't know. But the fact that he called the Pacific Northwest home was that was fun.
Starting point is 00:06:02 That was nice. And that's why Leonis is the best. Yeah, we love Leonis. Yeah, so really cool that he's back. By the way. Did we ever settle? Is it Leonis or Leonis? I think Dave Sims tried to make it Leonice, but I think it's.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yeah, that's what I remember. I didn't say. Or maybe Leonis. I think it's Leonis. I think that's what it actually is. yeah we'll we'll figure it up we'll figure out let us know if we're wrong let us know in the comments you guys love to let us know when we're wrong anyway yeah uh or at least although you're usually wrong yeah yeah you're usually wrong when you try to correct us but yeah yeah yeah uh whatever
Starting point is 00:06:41 the other one that um the other nri that the mariners have signed here is carson fulmer right-hand a pitcher former first round draft pick former top 10 draft pick of the uh chicago white socks big fastball was a start Vanderbilt but it's not been a great career for him in the majors he's 29 years old now was most recently with the Dodgers
Starting point is 00:07:07 organization did not make an appearance for the Dodgers at the major league level last time he was in the majors and pitching was in 2021 with the Reds he threw 25 and two thirds innings 842Ks per 9 456 walks per 9
Starting point is 00:07:22 a 666 ERA folks and a 4-6-9-fip. Wow, Carson Fulmer is the man of memes. But yeah, big fastball here. So that's fun. Former first round pick, former top 10 pick. So we know, you know, that's the whole Jerry Depoto thing.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But it's interesting. You know, it's something that makes you look at least. So what do you think about Fulmer? Nothing. Cool. It's just a dude. There's nothing. Like, I don't know how many.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Didn't Fulmer get like DFA at like, six times one year and he ended up on the pirates like three separate times. I feel like that was him. But no, obviously, you know, Jerry likes to take the shots on the top, former top prospects on, you know, first round picks. So it's not all that surprising that they would take a shot on Fulmer. You know, coming out, he was a big fastball guy. And, you know, it was all about, hey, does he have enough control and command to start? It turns out he didn't have enough control or command to be a reliever, which obviously is a big issue. there have been some injuries as well but you know again it's a big fastball it's cutter um and it's a former
Starting point is 00:08:33 top 10 pick and top 50 prospect in all baseball yeah i mean that's the guy jerry's always going to try and take a shot on so not all that surprising but i really don't foresee any path to the big leagues and i'd be pretty shocked to be um you know pitched any meaningful innings for the mariners uh yeah i mean you know if they they think that they've identified something here then sure um It's worth a shot. It doesn't cost you anything, but... Yeah, kick the tires on them. See what's there.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I think there's like nine guys ahead of him. Yeah. I mean, maybe the Mariners have... Maybe the Mariners have some answers that other teams for Carson Fullmer. Doubt it, but who knows? This is, you know, one of the model pitching development staffs and all of baseball.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So you never know. And I mean, Fulmer, I mean, he was with the Dodgers, though, this past year. So if the Dodgers couldn't figure it out for him, then probably, Probably not, probably not, but like I said, you never know. All right. So yeah, Carson Falmer, Leonis Martine, a couple fun pickups.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I like those. We'll see what, you know, we'll see what they can bring in spring and see if there are anything more than what we're thinking here. All right. We're going to get into your trades in just a moment, but real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by Fanduel. And we're really excited about our new sports betting partner for Lockdown. because there's a number one sports book in America. Yeah, that's right. FanDuel.
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Starting point is 00:11:02 Make every moment more with Fandul, the official sportsbook partner of the NFL. And you're listening to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Thank you again for making us your first listen. It is Fan Fiction Friday. Let's get into your Mariners mock trades. We're going to be doing a few of them on today's show. And we're going to start with Langston here,
Starting point is 00:11:22 who has a one-for-one swap with the Rockies. Rockies get Chris Flexen Mariners get CJ Cron the first spaceman who would DH a little bit for them come off the bench, play a little bit of first, etc. From evaluation standpoint, this is
Starting point is 00:11:39 more than fine, in my opinion, at least. But from the Rocky's perspective, I don't know if they would really want Chris Flex and I don't know what they would do with Chris Flex and he only has a year left. He's not a young asset either really. I just don't know what the appeal of Chris Flexxon. flexen is to a team like the Colorado, Colorado Rockies and given where they are right now.
Starting point is 00:12:01 But valuation standpoint, this is fine. I'll give this one like a 45. It's, you know, a rental first basement for a rental back-in starter. That's usually about right. But this is why the teams that you pick, they're so important because the Rockies don't have any need for Chris Flexen. And the Mariners really only have a slight need for C.J. Cron. because as much as people want there to be a full-time D.H. in Seattle, there's not going to be. And the guy they bring in to be the primary D.H, he's not going to be first base only. So, yeah, Crohn's not even a great fit either.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So I think the valuation is fine. I just think that you have to consider what both teams are looking for and what they're trying to accomplish with this trade. And I don't think this trade would accomplish anything really for either team. It would help Seattle. Sure, it might help Colorado. but it's not a fit. So I'm going to give it a few.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And even if you're Colorado and you're thinking like, all right, let's acquire flex and hope that he pops and then we'll try and flip him at the deadline. Even if he pops, there's a pretty big cap on that, on what he can be ceiling-wise. So you're not going to get a ton for him.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I just, I don't know. If you're trading CJ Crone, I'd rather, like if just from a Rocky's perspective, I'd rather just get a prospect, you know, take a fly around someone. Mm-hmm. Agreed. Did you say a score or great?
Starting point is 00:13:24 A 40. 40, right, yeah. All right. Next up we got Alex. Another one for one, this time with the Orioles. Cade Marlowe to the Orioles for left-handed relievers, C&L Perez, who's coming off of career year by his standards. Been rough for him outside of this past year, though.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And I know, you know, everyone wants the lefty reliever. I haven't really gotten into a splits. I don't know if he's actually a lefty specialist or whatnot. This is fine. I mean, because, you know, this is a guy that has a lot of club control. And if he's actually figured some things out here, I mean, he was worth a full win this past season. That's a good pickup, especially, you know, if you're trading from your excess of, you know, outfielders. But I'm really fascinated with Cade Marlowe.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I would really like to see him in a Mariners uniform and just see what that looks like a little bit. before trading him now. And I don't know if Perez is really the guy that I'm taken to forego that opportunity to see Marlowe. But yeah, this is interesting. This is creative. Perez is not someone that we've talked about. So I'll give this one 50. Colby.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Why would Baltimore trade Perez for Cade Marlowe? I think that's the question. I don't think it's terrible. Perez walked everybody until last year. So you kind of have to believe you're the Mariners that he's got that figured out because what you can't have is a reliever walking six guys per nine innings, right?
Starting point is 00:15:03 Like the Mariners are never going to have that. If there's somebody who does approach that, they're going to be in the minor leagues really quick. So you have to believe Perez is, for lack of a better term, fix. And you have to believe that really, to believe that Jared Kellnick or Taylor Trammell is going to hit in the big leagues because kind of the thing that the Mariners have going for them in left field right now is that they have
Starting point is 00:15:25 three kind of like question marks and they're and they're playing the odds that one of them hits. Well, you take one of those guys away, then it's a little more pressure on Tremel. It's a little more pressure on Kelnick unless you want to play Pollock every day, which you shouldn't want to do. So it's an interesting trade. I think the valuation is okay. I don't really know what the Orioles are doing. They had this big year last year,
Starting point is 00:15:49 and then they really didn't do anything to make it better. Well, and their GM has outright said, you know, we're kind of looking at this as a development year, you know. We kind of just want to gradually go from where we were last year and do that that way instead of, you know, adding on top of it. I just, I don't know. It's a weird strategy for them. Dumb.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah, yeah. It's dumb because the Orioles have the pieces to, you know, take that next step. And bear in mind, this is the team. that traded Jorge Lopez at the deadline amidst being like what three games out of the wild card at the time that they did that and Mancini yep and Mancini yeah
Starting point is 00:16:25 so yeah the Orioles like it's like the Orioles pick like we will not be competitive until 2024 and even if everything changes to make it possible in 22 and 23 no we will not try and be good until 2024 so but anyways that's this is
Starting point is 00:16:41 the locked on Orioles so I'd give this one of I'll give it 45, 45, 50 somewhere in that range. It's not bad. Yeah. Put it out of 48. Split the difference. 47 and a half.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Ooh. But yeah, no, I'm going, I'm going 50 on it, personally. I think it's cool. I think it's interesting. And I think both sides, I think there's a strong argument for both sides to do it. Yeah. I might dive into Perez a little bit more. He's interesting and figure out a little bit more about him.
Starting point is 00:17:12 All right. Coach JP has a deal with the Braves. Mariners get Marcel O'Suna and Ian Ritchie Jr. And Braves get Flexen and Tremel. Yeah, I have no interest in Marcelo Zuna for a multitude of reasons. He's been bad the last couple of years. He's just not a good dude. And Ian Ritchie Jr. is not enough for me to take on the money that O Zuna is carrying.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Especially for Tremel. I could really care less about flexing in this situation. but given up a legitimate asset in Tramel. So with the Braves. The Braves couldn't care less about Chris Flexen. So, yeah, essentially it's a contract swap where the Mariners are taking on not only a lot more money, but a much bigger headache and a much less valuable player to you than even Flexson, believe it or not. And then it's Ian Ritchie for Trammell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I like Ian Ritchie. I do too, but why would the Braves do that? Yeah. No, no. The Braves don't need Tremel. They don't need flexin. So are they willing to attach Ian Ritchie to get somebody to take Marcelo Zuna? And if they are, then the mariner shouldn't have to give up somebody like Tremel.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah, and from a money standpoint. Yeah, again, yeah, from a money standpoint, like I'm giving up one year and $8 million for two years and 36. I'm good. I have no interest. Yeah. Right. So that's what I'm saying. And essentially for me, it's like, if you want me to take OZuna's contract from you, you're just going to give me Ian Ritchie.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I'm not giving you anything. Yeah. Right. And on top of that, it's even more so true because of the off the field issues, which is being generous that Marcel Ozuna has had over the last few years. So yeah, I'm not giving you even Chris Flexen for those two. So that's how bad of a, that's how bad of an anchor Marcelo Zuna is. The off the field issues, that's, that's where it begins. ends there for me with this conversation to be quite with you.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Right. But then even you add the like how terrible he's been on the field. You can't play defense. And the contract. And again, it's just it's all right. It's just no. No. Like the Mariners would essentially be paying 30,
Starting point is 00:19:27 40 million dollars for Ian Ritchie. Who I like. Don't like that much. I'm out. And let's just be real about it. Teams only excuse off the field issues if you're really good. And he's not even that. He's not even that.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So what's the point of bringing in someone like that if he's not even good? And I have to pay him a ton of money. I have to pay him $18 million a year for the next year. Right. I'm essentially paying him to just go away because the Mariners are not going to pay Marcel Azuna and then play him. They're not going to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yeah. You know, I know you were trying to get creative with this and maybe find a creative way to get Ian Ritchie Jr. on the Mariners because I think that was your angle here. You were talking a little bit about the, you know the the pacific northwest connection and everything um but yeah this is like a this might be the lowest grade we could give uh which is 20 because this is just it's a it's a non starter from a ton of different angles for me right and like it's i appreciate the creativity and like i said i like you and rich you too but you don't like forsake everything your organization stands for
Starting point is 00:20:39 to get Ian Ritchie. Like, you, no, it's not worth the headache. You have like six Ian Ritchies in your organization. You're going to be fine. So I have to assume here that coach maybe knows the Ritchie family or, you know, is somehow connected to them. Or is just unaware of the Marcella Zuna stuff off the field. But those are all red flags that, yeah. But even if you put that aside, which you shouldn't, but even if you put that stuff aside, just the on-field.
Starting point is 00:21:08 production or lack of thereof and then the $18 million per year, no. I'm so out. I have no interest in doing that. Right. Not for, not for Trump. If I wanted to go spend that kind of money on an aging outfielder who's declining, I'd just go hit up the Rockies about Charlie Blackman.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah. Or I could have I could have just given Mitch Hanager the qualifying offer. Which is like, and Mitch Hanigar is actually like a good player. Blackman. He's a. And he's a good guy. Yeah, it's just no. It's a no for me.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I see the thought process behind it. I get it. It's pretty creative, but it's just dead on arrival because of Ozuna, just everything about Marcel Ozuna. Yeah, yeah, a whole package. All right. We got one, two,
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Starting point is 00:23:17 You can thank me later. All right. Final few trades here on Fan Fiction Friday for our final week on our three show slate. Remember, we are going back to a full schedule. Starting next week, you're getting us Monday, Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:23:33 Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, every single week until the middle of December. I keep on saying it just to torture Colby. Next trade comes from Alex Ledbetter. Frid to the show, Alex Ledbetter, one of our former writers over at the website that must not be named. Maritors receive one year of right-handed relievers,
Starting point is 00:23:56 Scott Barlow, from the Royals. Oh, Colby, you're going to hate this. This is going to be a automatic 20 from you. Yep, yep. I'll fielder Taylor Tremel and infielder Hogan Windish. Yeah. 20. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah. I assumed this much. I'll be the one to give you a serious answer here, Alex. I don't think this is enough for Scott Barlow, to be quite honest with you. I think the Royals are going to want something more on the top end than Tramel and then, you know, and Windish. Windch is a wonderful player that Colby and I really like, but I don't think a lot of people know about him just yet. And Tremel is someone that still hasn't really been able to figure it out at the major league level. I just don't know if that's going to be something that the Royals are interested in giving up, or in taking for, or giving up Barlow for, rather.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And I think that's too much to give up for Barlow. One year. One year Barlow. One year Barlow. But he's been really good, man. He's been really good. I don't care. I just, also the,
Starting point is 00:25:07 the royals are weird, right? The royals have always been weird. They've always overly valued their players. They're overly loyal to a lot of their players or have been, at least under Dayton Moore. Now Dayton Moore's gone, of course, so maybe that philosophy has changed a bit,
Starting point is 00:25:22 but still, this is an organization that hasn't been the easiest to trade with in the past, particularly on guys that have been homegrown, like I believe Barlow, right I don't think I'd give up a top 30 prospect for any rental reliever right now right now We see what happens in spring training obviously guy gets hurt or something then things change But I'm comfortable with the bullpen as it is right now and see what happens and then we get into May and June and I have to make a change then I can do that for a lot less than those two guys What did Michael foam are gonna cost me nothing so I'm good
Starting point is 00:26:00 I mean Barlow's a significant significantly better reliever than Michael Fulmer at this point. Yeah. I wouldn't give up Cade Marlowe for Edwin Diaz. I'm sorry. That's more about the contract, though. Quick on Barlow, though. He actually started his career with the Dodgers organization.
Starting point is 00:26:24 He went over to the Royals. So not necessarily a homegrown guy, but a guy that made his way through the Meyer League ranks and eventually made his debut with Royals. Um, yeah, they're just, they're weird. Uh, I'll give this 30, no, 40. I'll give it a 40. 20.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Nice. I stand by it. Yep. I knew you would. All right. Uh, we got a couple of, what? Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Uh, you already got your fan club, huh? Already got the name picked out and everything. Bowers Rangers. Yeah. When's the, when's the Sea Dragons, uh, podcast coming, by the way? Well, David Locke won't get back to me, so I'm assuming never. Locked on Cedar. Howard.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Dracharis. Exactly. That's how I would sign off every show. Anyways. I'm sure you would. I'm sure you would. Daisy and the dingo has a couple of prospect swaps to go over here. The first one is with the Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It's Mariners get Alec Berluson, who actually made his major league debut this past year, did not go well. First base, corner outfield, D.H. type, one of those dudes. and then Cardinals get Emerson Hancock. So this is a pretty expensive venture for the Mariners here. Do you like Burleson enough to give up Hancock? No, no. I'm out. Yeah, I don't either.
Starting point is 00:27:45 He's a can't play defense. He's got a hit to have any value to you whatsoever. Those type of guys, I'd rather have the number four starter with Hancock. Because I feel like the number four starter thing is essentially something you can bank on with Hancock. Burleson just he doesn't do enough good things for me to give that up because it just in general value the pitcher more than the hitter in trade talks typically that's how clubs act so it's not a bad idea but Burleson just he does nothing for me I'm not a fan of his as a prospect so I just don't think he's a great bit either yeah like he can you know you can stand him out there in a corner outfield spot but he's not going to do anything for you.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You really shouldn't. You really shouldn't though. Yeah, I just, you know, there's better options for you if you really want to go like a full-time DH or a first base DH type or a first base corner outfield DH type who might
Starting point is 00:28:50 actually give you like a little bit better defense. If that's the route that you actually want to go, I don't think that you need to trade Emerson Hancock for that dude. Right. Burleson, again, doesn't feel, doesn't run. Actually repeat a AAA before he found success. I think he's an overrated prospect.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I really don't think he's anything that special. So I'm out. And I mean, to be fair, right now, Hancock isn't really anything that special. Not yet, at least. Sure. He carries more weight. His name carries more weight, though, right now. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:24 But again, Burleson is a guy who should really only be playing first base. And he doesn't even have tremendous power. it's like averageish power so he's got a hit he got to hit 280 to carry any kind of like with good on base skills which he's flashed but hasn't consistently shown
Starting point is 00:29:41 he just makes a lot of contact which is kind of a guy for me I accidentally spoiled our next trade I'm going to give the I'm going to give the Burlison Hancock trade a 35 I'll give him 40 The other one from Daisy and the dingo
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's another It's another one where the Mariners get a position player and they trade a pitcher. They trade Taylor Dollar to the Blue Jays here for Addison Barger, who's a Corian Field guy, third base. Can play a little bit of shortstop. I think he's going to end up a third, though.
Starting point is 00:30:16 He's just too good for Taylor Dollar. He's too good at this point. Barger has dominated every level of the minors. He's 23 years old. I think he's going to get a real opportunity to make the Blue Jays Major League Club either out of camp or pretty quick. after they're pretty high on him too the way that they've heard them talk about him so yeah i don't think that he's anyone that they would uh that they would trade for for taylor dollars so yeah he
Starting point is 00:30:44 he's gonna be 23 all year um like you said he's he's raked everywhere he got a cup of coffee at triple a last year but he spent you know most he he jumped three levels last year yeah we're from high a ball to triple a now he's got a shot to make the big league roster. You get why you're asking about them. The Blue Jays, you know, obviously Bo Bichette's going anywhere for a while. Who is the baseman for Toronto? Oh, Chapman. How could I forget Matt Chapman? You know, poor man's A. Eugenio Suarez, but. And then they have like five billion second baseman on that team. Right. Yeah, yeah, they do. So I get why you're asking about them. I just don't think Dollar does anything for the Blue Jays.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And Dollar's the guy who actually could help the Mariners this year. So, You want to be careful about trading from your starting pitching depth a little bit here. I think the Blue Jays do this deal. I think a guy like is it pronounced barger. Yeah, barger. I think he might be available at some point this year. I think the Blue Jays are going to be, if they do trade him, they're going to trade him for impact major leaker. Yeah, he's going to be in a package at the deadline for a starting pitcher or something.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Right. Or they're going to go out and get a left fielder or they're going to go out and get like the plus bullpen arm they really need. that's what they're going to use barger for not to prospect swap them for a number five starter yeah and a guy that you know and dollars who's frankly going to be further I would say probably further down the totem pole of starting pitchers in Toronto than he is in Seattle right now
Starting point is 00:32:18 right especially once Rue gets back because I think Rue's supposed to get back at some point this year so yeah I don't know it just Yeah, I don't think this is Some of the Blue Jays would even entertain To be quite frank with you Just everything that I know about Barger
Starting point is 00:32:36 But yeah, I'll go Marger Sorry, I'll go 40 on this just because it's a little more creative And it makes more sense for the Mariners Than the Burlisten idea Yeah, I'd agree I just don't think there's any Realistic chance that's happening though
Starting point is 00:32:52 I think if you want Barger on the Mariners Like if that was like your only priority And obviously it's not We know it's Daisy's not, but it's not only priority to get barger on the mares. But if it was hypothetically, then I think you're giving up like Paul Seawald, at least. So yeah. Yeah, someone that significantly helps the Blue Jays at the major league level. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Agreed. All right. I'm going to say one more time next week. We are going back to five shows a week. So this little routine that you found yourselves in. where you're only checking on Mondays and Wednesdays and Fridays for our show. Stop it. Check us out on Tuesdays and Thursdays as well because we're going to be releasing episodes on those days from Monday until the middle of December.
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Starting point is 00:34:14 Number autographed. We'll talk about that next week. Yeah. All right. So keep an eye out for that. I also have a little something that I'm planning on doing as well. But maybe I'll save that for the week after then since you're doing that next week. see we'll see maybe we'll do two giveaways simultaneously we'll do we'll do we'll do do two simultaneous giveaways all right that's going to do it for a show thank you so much for joining us here on the locked on mariner's podcast for colby pat node i'm tied in gonzalus be sure to give us a follow on twitter at l o underscore mariners you can follow me at dame gnzalz
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