Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Fan Fiction Friday: Paul Goldschmidt to the Mariners?!

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

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Well, Colby went rogue and asked for your Mariners trade proposals. So we're going to see what you came up with on today's episode of Locked on Mariners. Colby hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network. Your team every day. Ahoi, sailors.

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And if this is your first time tuning in to fan fiction Friday, this is something we typically do during the off season. Very simple. You come up with a trade. We grade it on the 2080 scouting scale. 80 being the best, 20 being the worst. And, you know, most of these end up being around 40 to 50. Sometimes a little bit lower than that.

Not often does it go higher than 50 though. But we'll see. Hey, maybe that changes today. Let's start with Axe. Who says, it's time to sell high. on Jonathan Claese and he used Jason Churchill's point system, friend of the show, Jason Churchill, to craft this trade. Jonathan Claese, who has a value of four on the Churchill point system,

and Ty Adcock, who has a value of three, for Giants outfielder Mike Yistremski, who has a value of five and a half. Yostrmsky, of course, is controlled through 2025 as accent points out here. What do you think, Colby? I know you like Mike Yostremski. quite a bit.

Yeah. You know, just a blanket caveat for all these trades. We're going to assume the team is selling and the Mariners are buying, you know, assuming it's a Mariners are buying trade. We're just going to assume that the team they're trading with is willing to sell that player unless it's something ridiculous. But that's Todd's job to weed out the ridiculous. Overall for this deal, I'm a Yistramski fan.

I think he's a good fit for the ballpark, left-handed bat. He's got some pop, take some walks, can play across the outfield. You want them in a corner, though. I think he's just a good overall fit for the club. Closier, I feel like I'm somehow the low guy on Closce, despite him being in my top 10, just because he's not a good hitter right now. He's not a good hitter. He's not a good center fielder either.

He's a guy who's hitting a ton of home runs, and he's stealing a bunch of bags, but he's also posting like a 220 batting average in AA, and he's striking out 35% of the time right around. there. He's got a lot of work to do. At Cox, a nice reliever. You could probably help you at the big league level this year at some point. So I think the package overall is fine, assuming San Francisco is selling. But San Francisco is they kind of prefer the, they'll take less talent to get a guy who's closer to the big leagues. You know, if you want proof of that, they traded, they traded Pernander Baroa for Donovan Walton. Like, this is a team who

constantly is thinking about how we can squeak every single win out of, you know, mediocre rosters. And they've done it for the last three or four years, aside from the one kind of outlier year where they won like 110 games. They're a team that doesn't like to rebuild. So a player like Ustrimski who has multiple years of club control, that's a guy they're probably going to want to hang on to or they're going to try and extract as much as they possibly can out of you. So I don't know if San Francisco would do this. If I were Seattle, I would do it all day. So I think overall it's it's a pretty good value So just because I think San Francisco isn't exactly a

A likely seller of guys who have multiple years of club control I would say that this is probably like a 50 Yeah, I'll agree with you on that Yes, you know obviously broke out during the COVID season You know 54 games he posted a 1508 WRC plus Since then he's been you know a league average to a slightly above league average bat you know decent defenders especially in a corner

you know really good defender out in a corner I'm not really sure you know how the the giants value that so this could be enough maybe they want a little bit more maybe like you said they want someone who's closer to the big league level than class A tie adcock doesn't really do a whole lot for me

here he doesn't really move the needle because tie adcocks are a dime a dozen like he's a middle guy yeah obviously he's having a good year he's finally, you know, pitching now. He started throwing last year after getting drafted during, you know, in the George Kirby year.

Of course, teammates with George Kirby at Elon. Yeah, it's it's a fine deal. I think this is fine. I'd say 50 to 55. I could see this, you know, happening. And that's, you know,

we, for, again, for those that are new to fan fiction Friday, we weigh creativity. obviously that that gets points with us but we also have to weigh real realism with it and yeah I think this is realistic I would not be surprised of you know we saw this come across the ticker and this helps and the mayor is really desperately need a lefty bat with some with some pop and yistremski does provide that he's had a 25 home run season he's had a 17 home run season you know he's probably a 15 to 20 homer guy really at the end of the day but that helps

I really does all So yeah I like it This is a good one Good start All right Let's move on here to Daisy and the dingo Who is a common participant in fan fiction Friday

Seth Brown for Isaiah Campbell And Zach DeLoge Colby you love Zach Brown Rather Yeah okay Yeah Brown had a huge second half last year And he's been a pretty popular

trade candidate, particularly for Seattle ever since. We talked about him a lot over the winter. I think he's a good fit. He can play some outfield, play some first base, left-handed bat, tremendous power. So, yeah, I like Seth Brown. I think he's a pretty good fit here in Seattle. He's got, I think he's not even ARP eligible until after this year.

So he's got plenty of club control, not having the best year memory serves. Also, he's already dealt with an injury. So yeah, it's it's probably cheaper to get him now than it was in the winter. But you're not getting in it for that trade package. You know, Deloche is nothing. He's literally nothing. I know he's having a nice year in AAA right now on the back of really what's been a nice week. But he's a fourth, fifth outfielder at best.

Like that's who he is. He's Boog pal. If you guys remember Boog pal. That's who Zach Deloche is. And Campbell is a reliever. He's a decent one. but I think what you found here are probably the second and third pieces in this deal. I think to get Oakland to move off of Brown,

you're probably going to have to include somebody as a headline or somebody like Clossey, somebody like Hancock, somebody maybe like Axel Sanchez. I think that's what you're looking at here because Oakland is a team that's willing to wait for guys to develop. So you don't have to worry about getting guys who are big league ready to Oakland. in this deal, but they're just not going to trade them for, you know, what is ultimately a middle reliever and a fourth outfielder.

They'd get more if they just waited, hope for a rebound. Because that's about what they could probably get for him if he was bad for the entire year. So, yeah, the package is way too light, in my opinion.

It would be great if Oakland accepted that. I'd do backflips. So, but it's just, it's not a realistic trade offer. I think you have to, throwing Hancock or Sanchez or Clossey or Locklear at the very least to get Oakland interested in something like that.

I'm not a huge Seth Brown fan. I'll just say that first and foremost. Like, you know, he hits a lot of home runs. He walks quite a bit, but he's not a high on base guy. He's not a high average guy. Go look at the second half last year, Ty. Okay. And then he's come back this year and obviously he's been hurt, but like he hasn't been good.

Go look at the second half last year, Ty. Cool. half a season. Awesome. He was like the fourth best sitter in the American League for like 80 half a season. So you want to base out, you want to, you want to say that Seth Brown is really good based off of half a season out of five. I didn't say really good.

Parts of five season. I didn't say really good. I said he helps. So you want to trade Emerson Hancock for him? Yeah, I would. I'm going to be worried about trading a number four starter. Ooh, don't have any of those floating around. Not a huge fan. So,

I also think this is light though I do agree with you that it's too late Zach De Loach right now he's he's having you know statistically like when you look at the slash line good year down in Tacoma but he's striking out way too much he's unspectacular defensively

he's a fourth or fifth outfielder at the major level and then Isaiah Campbell like Tyadcock diamond dozen so yeah I'll give this like a 45 40 35 Because it's like it's close.

It probably gets the conversation started. Like you need a better piece. You need a bigger and a better piece to headline this thing though. Like I'm sure those are a couple pieces that the A's are like, okay, sure, fine. But we need something juicier to hang on to here. Maybe. We'll say how cheap they are. They don't want to pay Seth Brown the $2 million or something he's going to make an ARB.

But yeah, I just I don't see this getting the job done. so I know Ty still links Emerson Hancock can be a number two but he's back into the rotation guy for me so yeah I trade him for a bat but uh I just trade it for a different bet I mean sure yeah if you can get a better one yeah when that has a bit more tracker that's fine by me um but yeah I'll give this one like a 35 yeah all right um yeah I'll say 40 I'll say 40 on that all right we got a few more trades to go over we're also going to do our own trade today and I think we're going to do Seth Brown, right? Is that way we agreed upon? No? Yeah, we'll figure it out on the fly. We're going to figure it out on the fly. All right. First, though, before we get

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You can catch all the action on the Marriss hometown broadcast with Sirius XM via the XXM app. Let's get back into these trades here on Fan Fiction Friday. This one comes from Bard. Ooh, boy. Giants get Bryce Miller, Josh Hood, Taylor Trammell, and Taylor Dollard for Alex Cobb,

Lamont Wade, Jr. and J.D. Davis. No. That's no. Ugh. So here's the deal. Miller is worth more than those three guys combined. He is.

J.D. Davis, you get for a year and a half. 25. 25. J.D. Davis, you get for a year and a half. He's a DH only. Fine. Whatever. He could help. Cobb, I like. But, you know, again, you want to trade seven years of Bryce Miller for,

I think, a year and a half of Alex Cobb. I mean, all right. You're getting three major leaguers who are having really good years right now. Cobb, Wade, and Davis are all having really good years. But, and that's also kind of what factors into the, to into the 25 grade for me because I just, I don't see this happening. This is, this is one, just one for one, kind of unprecedented, you know, seeing three like above average major leaguers this year get traded all in the same deal. And then for Bryce Miller, who, I mean, look, you're replacing him with Alex. Cobb in the interim, but long term that hurts your rotation.

I don't think Trill and and Dollard are worth all that much in this deal either. And also, can Wade Davis and Thai France all coexist on the same roster together? I mean, they could, but it's a, it's a, it's not a great fit. What does Wade Davis have to do with this? Sure. Yeah. Shout out to Wade Davis. All start closer. Yeah, it's not an ideal roster fit because you're just kind of putting yourself into the like the Chicago White Sox mold where it's like we have three, four guys in our everyday lineup who should really only be playing first base. It's like you might be able to get away with it. But I don't like Dollar adds anything to this trade.

He's been hurt and he's been bad. And he's just a number four, number five at best anyways. Tramel is a failed big leaguer at this stage. There's really nothing there that San Francisco. was going to get excited about. And honestly, I don't want to trade Bryce Miller for a sub all-star level player. I just, I don't want to do that because, again, we're talking about seven years of Bryce Miller versus, you know, a year and a half of Cobb, who's like a number four,

number three somewhere in that range. Miller might be there already. We'll see how he pitches this weekend. And then Davis and Wade are having good years and they're good bats, but they're limited players who, you know, aren't really ideal fits here. And I don't see how you're going to get all three of those guys for essentially Bryce Miller. So I don't think this works for San Francisco.

I don't think this works for Seattle. Yeah. So, yeah, you're kind of shooting the moon here and you're missing. It also seems like an overreaction to Bryce Miller's last two starts. Right. It feels like you're pushing the panic button a little bit here. It feels like an overreaction to 20. In 2020, generally, we have to make 2023 work at all costs.

It's like, no, you don't. I get why you want to because 2023 is now, but it's just not how it works. The Mariners are going to push the panic button on the entire rebuild to try and squeeze an extra two wins out of this 2023 roster. It's not going to happen. So I guess like a 30. Yeah, 25, 30. It doesn't really matter to me, but it's, I just don't think it works on either end. Like you said.

I don't think it's realistic. I do think it's creative, but it's not realistic. It's very MLB the show. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Larry has Thai France,

Brian Wu, and Axel Sanchez going to the Cardinals for Paul Coltschmidt. Are you sensing a theme with this segment, this portion of fan fiction Friday? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of panic.

This was purposeful. Yeah, lots of panic. No. First of all, the Cardinals, they're not going to trade Paul Goldschmidt. They're not. They got them for another year after this year. They're going to be like the Mariners. If they have a down year this year, they'll just reload and try again next year.

So they're not going to do that, even with the addition of Ty France to kind of give them a long-term first baseman. Teams don't care about that. They really don't, at first base, at least. Goldschmidt's significantly better. Wu is obviously, you know, interesting. But again, that's seven years of Brian Wu for a year and a half of Goldschmidt. And the half year might not even amount to anything because Goldschmidt's great. And if you get him here, cool, but you're not going to get him here for that.

No, no, no. You're not going to get him here for that. But also you get him here for this year and you don't make the playoffs because Teo never gets it going and Julio never gets it going the way he did last year. And Gino is kind of in his funk or whatever. well now you get Goldschmidt for one year before he leaves for free agency and it's cost you Brian Wu. It's cost you Thai France who would be here next year. And it's cost you a high upside prospect.

Like I know like this this deal's just not going to happen. I will give you credit for creativity, you know, putting Thai France in a trade to try and upgrade there. So I gave you credit for that. But just in terms of realism, this is another one that I just like I would be absolutely floored if this came across the ticker on like ESPN or whatever. Yeah, the creativity saves you from the 20s, but there's like a 35 at most for me. Like, I'll give you a 40. I just look, this is the defending National League MVP.

I get he's a first baseman, but this is the defending National League MVP who's having another really good year right now. And the Cardinals, like you said, can easily just retool in the offseason and get right back to contending next year. And they're going to want someone like Paul Goldschman around for that. You know, France obviously does like balance it out a little bit. But even even with Thai France there, that doesn't lower the prospect capital enough to the point where you're like, here's Brian Wu and here's who's like our seventh best

prospect, sixth best prospect. And here's Axel Sanchez who's taking a step back this year. Like they, the Cardinals could ask you for. Harry Ford or Cole Young and they were on top of Thai France and maybe on top of just this package in general and they might not be wrong to do it. So probably ask for Bryce Miller. They might ask for Bryce Miller. They might ask for Loughton Gilbert or George Kirby. Like yeah.

Again, this is the defending National League MVP. I get he's a first basement. I get the club control is very limited. But this is one of the, what, 10 best hitters in baseball? Yeah. I mean, look at what Juan Soto went for last. year now it's not going to be as much as Soto because it's obviously younger as well too yeah right but look at that package and if i'm st. Louis I'm like look you're basically having to pay us to

not compete for two straight years that's how I have to look at it because if I trade you my best player then not only is this year a failure then the overwhelming odds are is that next year's a failure because I don't think I can replace goldschmidt so you have to kind of force yet your offer has to be so good that they're willing to risk back to back, you know, failures of a season. Does that sound like something St. Louis is going to do? And does that sound like something Seattle would be willing to do? No, it's just, it's not going to happen. So, yeah, I'll give you 40 for it because the creativity was high, but there's just no realism to this one. Yeah. And the fuck stops there. All right. We got a couple more trades and then we're going to get into our trade today, our very own

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Thank you again for making us your first listen here on Fan Fiction Friday. again mariners and angels getting after it tonight down in anaheim and catch all the action on the merri's hometown broadcast with serious xm via the sxm app let's wrap things up here with our final two trades from our listeners this one comes from uh ham swaggerty 69 here on six nine look at that cardinals get emerson hancock jonathan clausay tommy edmund so another cardinals trade emerson hancock jonathan who you hate Jonathan Classe, who you hate, Tommy Edmund, who you hate. Both top 10 prospects in a pretty good system, but sure, yeah, I hate them. Zero. The Cardinals aren't training Tommy Edmund. Like, it just dies right there. The Cardinals are not a good trade fit for the, can we just say that?

Like, they're not a good trade fit because honestly, they're very similar. There are two teams that came into this year with high expectations. Things haven't gone their way. the Mariners have managed, you know, a little bit better than the Cardinals have. But there are also teams that want to compete next year, in the year after and the year after, they're not a good trade package. The Mariners don't have the starting pitching to give up that St. Louis really needs. And St. Louis, what they have to offer, Seattle, that's actually reasonably available,

doesn't really make a lot of sense. You're talking about what? Tyler O'Neill, another high strikeout guy. You're talking about Dylan Carlson, a guy who can't really hit. and you're talking about a couple of bullpen arms like fine whatever they're bullpen arms like you're not getting laris nupar you're not getting aranato you're not getting gold or you're not getting gold schmidt you're not getting edmund like what's might get paul dion but yeah you might get paul de young but you're not getting any of their like guys that they consider everyday players for them it's not going to happen so yeah i i think the the mariners and the cardinals only really line up um if it's a major leaguer for major leaguer Swap, really, because considering where they both are right now, I don't think prospect, like a prospect package, one of their major leaguers really is something that the Cardinals are looking for right now. Yeah, I just, I look at Tommy Edmund and I look at a guy like, you know, like Lars Neupar, who I know is, you know, pretty popular name thrown around. They're just, the Cardinals aren't in a position to trade them, not for prospects.

Yeah. Because I think they can win next year. So, yeah, it's, I just, I don't see Tommy Edmund, a good player, but the Cardinals are going to keep that guy around for a while. And he's going to be part of the next wave of Cardinal players after, you know, Goldsmith, Goldschmidt leaves next year. If he does. But, yeah, I just, I don't see it. And even if they were, that package isn't going to get it done. Edmund is a really good defensive player who isn't terrible at the plate.

It's going to cost more than that. Yeah, league average bat with a, you know, gold glove potential plays up the middle, et cetera. Yeah, I just, look, maybe we're wrong, but just looking at the Cardinals, looking at where they are, looking at what their philosophy is, you know, knowing what their philosophy is and how that kind of, you know, that lines up pretty well with what the mirror's philosophy is. I just, I can't see it personally. So I'll go 30. Yeah, 35. Yeah. All right.

Last trade from our listeners. This one comes from Mark Lane Thomas for Jonathan Clase and Marcelo Perez. I think it's fine, but Thomas is a right-handed hitting power bat who strikes out quite a bit. He's kind of what the issue has been with, you know, obviously he's having a good year. Like, he's younger AJ Pollock. he crushes bad against Rides. I think he has a career 81

WRC plus against Rides but a 181 against lefties or something insane like that like it's ridiculous he crushes lefties and he plays a pretty decent outfield and he's having a good year right now you get him for I think two years

after this year so yeah I mean he's not even I said he's a power bobby he's actually not even really that right like career high and home runs is 17 obviously he hasn't played that many games in general

like career highs 146 games other than that he's never played any more than 77 right now he's at 60 I assume that he's going to eclipse that this year but again he doesn't like the last two years hasn't walked a lot he's striking out you know 24 25% of the time he's got extra base power not really over the wall power he's got doubles power you know but again he hits from the right side

strikeout issues. This is kind of, again, he's having a good year on unlike some Mariners right now. But still, that's the model of player that has struggled at T-Mobile Park this year. So I don't know. It's not really a super attractive trade for me.

Fine. Like, the value is fine on it, whatever. Like, I'm not losing my mind over that. I'm not losing sleep over that. But I'm also not particularly excited about it either. So go like 45 because it's probably realistic, but is it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the

nationals would want for Lane Thomas. Yeah, you're coughing a lot. Yeah, we probably should end it after this segment. I got a dry throat right now. But the thing with Lane Thomas is that like at best his ceiling is like Mitch Hanager, which would be appealing except Mitch could also hit Ritey's. We don't really have any evidence that Thomas can. So you're proposing is trading, you know, an upside prospect, Claise for everything I don't like about him.

There is certainly an upside there. You're trading him for a platoon guy, for a guy who shouldn't be an everyday player on a good, you know, on a good team. Now, if you think that he is Mitch Hanigar and you can help him hit Ritey's a little bit better, just be like league average against Ritey's, then fine. That's totally viable. But right now you don't have a problem in your outfield hitting left-handed pitching. You thought you would because Pollock isn't, but Kellnick's better against lefties.

Julio and Teo, you're not taking them out of the lineup. So you're trading a high upside prospect for a DH who can't really hit Ritees. For a platoon DH. Yeah. So like it's not terrible. You know, and I know it made it sound like Lane Thomas is a bad player. He's not bad. He's a good year.

He's a 114 WRC plus. He's a solid player. He's a solid player who has multiple years of club control. Yeah. I think he's a totally viable target. I just think you're over pain a little bit here with Claisei because, again, Thomas is a platoon guy. That's how you have to view him if you're going to acquire him. He's going to crush lefties.

He's going to be below average and, you know, somewhere between 10 to 20% below average. It's pretty significant. So, yeah, I think Thomas is a fine target. I just think this is a bit of an overpay. But honestly, I think it's something that the nationals might ask for. So I think your thought on what the nationals might want for Lane, Thomas, is probably dead on. So I think from that standpoint, it makes a lot of sense. For me, if I'm the Mariners, I'm probably saying no.

But I think the valuation is about right. So I'll give it a solid 50. Okay. All right. Yeah. All right. All right. So we're not doing the trade a day?

I'll throw it at you if you want to react to it. How about we do this? How about you just say what it is and no contacts other than that? And we let our listeners grade the trade. I think they deserve this. I think they deserve the opportunity to do this because. Well, see, the thing about my trade that I was going to call an audible on, it was I don't think you have to give up this much to get the guy.

But it's one of those like, would you just do this? like just like who it's almost really more of a would you rather have this guy or this guy type of deal because it's a one for one okay so just the the trade that i came up with last night Alex verdugo for Thai franz Alex rudugo who has consistently proven to be a clubhouse issue for known clubhouse guy type of how do you know that We've literally talked about this. What are you talking about? He was literally, wasn't he bench for a hustle issue? Yeah.

Did you watch the video? No, I didn't watch the video. You go watch the video and tell me that that wasn't just retribution. Like, that was not a hustle issue. So it was a BS call by Cora. Yeah. The two bats, you can't deny, are pretty much similar, pretty much the same, except for Verdugo has a better shot to hit for power or better chance to hit for a higher average.

He's not prone to the long, uh, struggles at frances and also oh by the way he doesn't get hit in the wrist every third day so that's a bonus he's a lefty bat who can play all three outfield spots he gets on base roughly the same batting average and he's got doubles power it's not home run power but it's doubles power he's basically left-handed more athletic tie france they both have the same amount of club control yeah i just want a more athletic tie france or do you want tie i i i just worry about the clubhouse foot which we don't know we don't Because during the off season, I remember you clearly saying like, right.

And then that same person said, I've got, I've been told that he's really matured. It's not much of an issue anymore. And he's totally fine in a clubhouse. So I don't know. I don't know. Do you want a more athletic tie france? Yes or no? Who's left handed?

I mean, yeah. Yeah. Now again, I would just put this up. In a vacuum, it's fine. In a vacuum, it's fine. Yeah. I would just point this out. You may not need to give up tight.

you could add Ty France and Alex Verdugo on the same on the same team yeah so like I don't think you need to trade Thai France to get for dogo but if push came to shove and that's the only way you could get them would you consider it because you show so quick follow-up question I actually asked you this on the Patreon yesterday I think it was on the Patreon maybe I asked you off air but what would be your plan at first base for just 2023 the rest of the way in 2023 if you did trade tie France I had trade for his Jamir Candelario. Gotcha.

Gotcha. All right. All right. Well, folks, it's up to you. You grade Colby's trade down below. I think you've earned this. Sure. I mean, just remember, I may or may not screenshot your grades.

And they may or may not play into, you know, card giveaways in the future. But, you know, we'll see. We'll see. Be bold. I like I had the work ethic to screenshot those those uh and put him into a folder and be like hmm I was gonna pick you to win the cards he's he's too lazy for that he's way too lazy for that yeah accurate yeah yeah uh so so go ahead drag him mercilessly you you have you have my full

support on that front here's the problem with that tie by giving me like a 20 or something like that on that trade you're admitting that you don't know ball Because, no, because you cannot sit here and say that Alex Verdugo and Thai France aren't very similar players. And that Verdugo might actually be a better fit for your ball club than Thai France because he's a lefty. He's athletic. He can play multiple positions. Thai France can't do any of that. So go ahead and give me the 20.

But you're wrong. Like objectively wrong because Ty right there himself can't bring himself to give me a 20 because he knows that's at least a 50 because it's creative. It's creative. it's good valuation. It makes sense for both sides. Go ahead. Try and tear it apart. You can't.

The only thing you can say is that you don't have to give up Ty France to get Alex Verdugo, and you might be right. That's the only, that's the only knock against it. You don't know ball. You don't know ball. I disagree.

I don't personally. That's going to do a fresh show. Thank you so much for joining us here on lockdown. We're both to bear here, Ty. We're here at the end. We're here at the end. He's going to do something. He's going to do something.

Whatever it is, just know it doesn't represent me. For Colby Pat node, I'm tidying. I'm telling you. Let's be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Meritors. You can follow me at Dan Gonzalez's D-A and A, G and ZLZ and Colby at C-Pat 11. That's C-PAT-1-1. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok as well over at Lockdown Meritors. That's one more.

I know there's something coming. I know there's something coming. I just don't know what. You can, yeah, exactly. You can also find all that stuff in the description. of this episode. Thank you again for making us your first listen. Have yourself a beautiful baseball weekend and we'll see you next time. Peace.