Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Fan Fiction Friday: Perdomo, Arenado, and More

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

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It's the end of the week, which means it's time for everyone's favorite show. Fan Fiction Friday coming at you. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, it is Friday, February 14th, 2025. This is Tiding Gazzalus and Colby Pat Knot for the Lockdown Marys Podcasts podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day.

It's Fan Fiction Friday, the show where we react to your Mariners' Tram. trade ideas and grade them on the 2080 scale based on things like creativity, uniqueness, if it's realistic or not, all that good stuff. No title sponsor today, but as always, if you want to hear from me and Colby Vamoran, help support the show, check out our Patreon. All you have to do to check that out is click the link in the description of this episode. Kicking us off here on Fan Fiction Friday is Ian, who has a deal with the Boston Red Sox, Harry Ford, Gregory Santos, and Tyler Gough to Boston for Tristan Cosses.

who we talked a lot about once again on yesterday's episode. We talked about this yesterday where the idea that you're going to trade Kossis or trade for Kossis is probably not a realistic one unless the Red Sox are interested in a bullpen arm because we talked about trading Castillo at this stage of the off season. The Red Sox are already over the luxury tax threshold. So do they want to go over the next level? Probably not. So the Castillo thing doesn't really work anymore.

And obviously the Mariners aren't and shouldn't be willing to trade any of the other four starters for CASAS. So we talked about, you know, how a bullpen or how a prospect trade probably doesn't help move the needle much for the Red Sox. So it would have to be a bullpen arm. So it's kind of in this deal, Ian is kind of trying to do a little bit of both where it's not a, hey, you don't have to give up Munoz or Brash to get Casas, but you give up a pretty good prospect, and you give up a bullpen arm, a major league bullpen arm.

And then kind of a nice lottery ticket there to try and make it work. And I just, I look at this and I say, you know, what's the reason for Boston to do this? If Santos had repeated his 2023 last year, then I think we might have a conversation here, but he got hurt. And he wasn't all that great when he came back.

he's healthy now, but I think if you're looking to get like real value out of Santos in the trade market, that probably comes next winter. Hopefully after Santos is healthy and has a good year this year, because he certainly does have that high leverage, you know, type of stuff. And that is going to be appealing. I don't think that Harry Ford moves the needle enough for you not to give up Munoz or Brash if the goal is to acquire Kossis, particularly since the Red Sox don't have to trade Tristan Kossis, although I think they do. I think they would like to, despite what they might say, because they have shopped him pretty extensively this winter. So I do think there's a disconnect there. I just don't think this is enough for them to, you know, give up Kossis.

I think they would like a Munoz type. And at that point, like we talked about yesterday, the Mariners, probably not inclined to do that as their roster sits right now. So it's interesting. You're kind of trying to split the difference here. I just don't know how realistic it is, but I think it's probably like a 45. Yeah, I just don't think that it's helpful enough.

It doesn't make enough sense for a Red Sox team that is absolutely trying to contend this year. Santos is too much of an unknown right now. And then Ford, I guess you could kind of look at it as like he's backfilling the absence of Kyle Teal in their farm system. Of course, they traded teal as part of the return for Garrett Crochet. But yeah, I just don't think this is enough to get Kossis to the Pacific Northwest. So I'll go 40 on this. I can see where your head's at with it. And it is kind of like a creative way of trying to attack a Kasa steel. But yeah, I think there's just too much

up in the air about Santos and Ford right now is kind of on a downward trend as a prospect at the moment. So I just don't think that that gets that done for for Casas. And I just don't think that it's valuable enough to, to the Red Sox for them to move Casas right now when they just, they don't have to. Mariners talk has a deal with the Brewers. All right.

This one's got an interesting. It's another Harry Ford deal. Michael Morales getting traded alongside Ford to Milwaukee for left-handed pitcher Brian Hudson. Yeah, so I do think Hudson is. better than either of the lefties you have in your your pen right now. I think he's probably, if you acquired him and the season starts tomorrow, he's probably your second high leverage guy after Munoz. And then, you know, you kind of see what you get from Brash and Santos.

But yeah, I think Hudson is in that range where he would be a high leverage option. And he was last year for the brewers who had a good bullpen. So would I trade, Harry Ford and Michael Morales for Hudson? Yeah, I would. You get Hudson for five years. He is pre-Rb. So I would.

Would the Brewers? I don't think so because the Brewers are trying to compete this year. And Hudson is their favorite thing, cheap pitching. So the Brewers will inevitably at some point trade Hudson. It's just probably two, three years down the line when he starts to make real money. until then, I don't think they're going to move him for anything less than just like an insane return of prospects. And I don't think they would consider Harry Ford or Michael Morales that insane. I think they would probably, honestly, they might ask you for Colt Emerson before they'd consider moving Hudson.

And the Mariners can't and won't and shouldn't do that. So, yeah, I like Hudson and the Brewers are a team that will do things a little bit unorthodox sometimes. But typically they like to hold on to guys until the last year of their contract. They'll take a little bit less to, you know, hold a guy for an extra year. They've done that a couple times now, even knowing that they were eventually going to trade those guys. They are not going to immediately trade somebody when they start making money, but they're certainly not going to trade a really good arm right now who's making the league minimum for prospects.

Yeah. At least not one the caliber of Harry Ford and Michael Morales. So it's an interesting idea and I like the target. But I just think that it's just not realistic to expect Milwaukee to give up putson coming off the year he's coming off of for Harry Ford and Michael Morales. I just don't think that's realistic. Yeah, the brewers have a lot of lefties in their bullpen even after losing Hobie Milner this year. But of all the lefties that they have, Hudson is arguably the best one. He's also really good against Redis where he was last year.

So like you mentioned, he's cheap. I just, yeah, I don't think that gets that done. I think you need to be a bit more aggressive with the package there. If you're the Mariners, if you're trying to get someone like Hudson. It's a very similar conversation to what we had about Nardi with the Marlins. Now, Nardi strikes a lot more a lot more dudes out, but Nardi is also dealing with injuries. So I feel like the trade values are actually probably pretty much in the same range for Hudson and Nardy. And I just, to me, I think Nardi probably cost you Michael O'Royo somewhere in that range.

And so I would say the same goes for Hudson. So, yeah, I'll give this one a 40. Yeah, I think, you know, obviously the nice thing about Nardt, is that the Marlins are going to take prospects, whereas Milwaukee really doesn't have a reason to. And I would say it like this, like, would you trade Munoz for Harry Ford and Michael Morales? No. And the brewers are basically in a very similar spot as Seattle. They have no reason to do that either.

So no. I would say probably at 35, it's just so unrealistic. If you get it done for this price, that would be awesome. But I just don't see any way that the brewers are even going to entertain this. So because it's not very realistic, I would say 35, 40. Yeah. All right. We will look at more of your trades here in just a moment.

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Get this one from Jake. Submission for myself at Land Joe and at DJ Mani D. 0925. Never heard of any of these people. No idea who those people are. There's also pictures here. I've never seen those people before. Not a very good looking group. I'll say that.

Yeah. So it's a three-team deal with the Marlins, the Yankees, and the Mariners. The Marlins take Mitch Hanigar on. They also get Tyler Guff, Spencer Packard, and Michael O'Reas from the Yankees system for their troubles. The Yankees get Jonah Bride and Cody Bolton. And the marries get Anthony Bender and Marlins prospect Micah McDowell. I don't know why this has to be a three-team deal because, like, the Mariners could use Joan O'Brien, too. And obviously, the mayors could use Anthony Bender.

We might be talking about that a little later on. We might. So, yeah, I just don't think it's enough going to the Marlins. And obviously, the Marlins are the key team here because they're giving up the two most valuable pieces. Yeah. You know, Packer doesn't do anything for anybody. he's just a 4A type of guy he's eric philea who cares um i don't know enough about arias or mcdow uh to kind of properly value them in this deal but again the marlins are giving up bride and bender

and they're taking on hanager guff packard and arias like that's not enough to take on the all 17 million dollars and give up a couple of well one almost certainly valuable piece and then one like, you know, if he does what he did the second half of last year, that's going to be a really valuable piece in July. So, yeah, I think, you know, for the Marlins to be interested in this type of deal, uh, I think they would want like a Michael Arroyo, uh, type. They would want maybe even a Felnon-Selastin type if they're taking on all that money. And so there's kind of this weird, like gray area where you're, or a fine line, you're kind of trying to walk here. Uh, and I don't think the Yankees, having them included in this deal really does anything for the Marlins,

because it's really two separate trades. Like, the Yankees aren't going to care about Cody Bolton. You're not going to rope them into this with the promise of Cody Bolton. So, yeah, I think you need a significantly bigger prospect package if you're going to get the Marlins to give up two of their better assets and take on $15 million of Handegar's money. So, you know, props for creativity. but realism and valuation, I think you're a bit off on both of those.

Yeah, the Marlins are getting screwed here. Which, I mean, you know, they've done to themselves a lot in recent years. Sure. If a team is going to shoot themselves in the foot like this, it's probably the Marlins or the Rockies. Yeah. So.

But, yeah, so I'm going to go with like 30. Yeah, I think for this deal to have like any kind of merit, you take out the Yankees and it's Bride and Bender to Seattle. And then it's Hanager and then probably like a Royo, Locklear, maybe even Harry Ford, like all three of those guys. Because you're not you're not just paying for bride and bender. If they're also paying for them to take on Hanager. Right. You're also trying to. basically write a check.

Yes, the Marlins need to add payroll for them to be eligible for revenue sharing. But they're still like, they know the position that you're in. And be like, yeah, we'll take on Hannah here,

but you do have to give us something for him. Right. So yeah. And then, you know, kind of probably two top 10 and probably another top 12 to 15 prospect on top of it. If you want to get something in the trade,

not just get rid of Hanager. It's probably going to cost, I'd say three top 12 prospects to get a bride and a bender on top of clearing that money. You start tossing some money in. You know, maybe you only want bender, maybe you only want bride, blah, blah, blah.

Obviously the deal changes at that point. But either way, I think you need a more significant headliner for the Marlon and Stephen consider this. So probably 30, 35 at best. Thank you, people we've never seen before in our lives. Touching bases. has a deal between the

Mariners and the Cardinals here. This is a doozy. All right. Nolan Aeronado and St. Louis takes all the deferred money. Plus Brennan Donovan and Ian Biddle for Luis Castillo,

Randy a Roserana, Dylan Moore, and $5 million through 2027. So is that like $5 million each of the next three years? Or just $5 million? spread out through

2027. I think it's $5 million a year because I think that would cover the gap between Castillo a Roserena, Aeronado, and Donovan if you kind of arbit it out. I'm just going to trust you on that. Touching basis also says pushing the buttons

of Mariners fans. St. Louis needs outfield help and starting pitching we need infield help. At CPAT 11, let's hear the 35. Is this the 35? Colby. 25. So, yeah, St. Louis does need to start pitching, but they probably don't want it to come in the form of a 31-year-old making $23 million a year. A big part of the motivation for the Cardinals Winter, which they failed miserably at, by the way, was to trade the contracts of Aeronado and to trade the contract of Sunny Gray and kind of try and clear the books a little bit so that they can go out in 2026 after kind of a step back year and competing.

again. Well, they failed. They didn't move gray. They didn't move Aeronado. Uh, so I don't think that Castillo does anything for them. And a Rosarena is a year closer to free agency than Donovan. So if you're not going to compete in 2025, it, you know, and not to mention a Rosarena is making, what, $10 million this year? Donovan's making three and a half. Like, that's a pretty sizable bump. So, uh, I think also if they are looking to compete again in 2026, Donovan still fits that timeline. Right. And, you know, Aeronado for Castillo, like if the Cardinals are going to eat all that deferred money, like fine, I guess Seattle. Yeah. Still needs a starting pitcher at that point, like a one that you can trust. So, I mean, I guess you probably go, and you're not saving any

money in this trade. So you're going to trade Castillo and then you're not going to have the money to go out and get like a Andrew Heaney even to kind of try and you know patch that up a little bit and so plus you also lose your everyday second baseman i i guess the idea here would be that you just move polanco to second and aeronados the third baseman uh or is donovan the second basement like how do you think donovan is don't have in the left fielder to replace the rosarina yeah actually yeah donovan's probably playing left field for you right uh because like what do you do with Polanco if Aronado is at third and you have Donovan

like you would want Donovan to play second but then Polo doesn't have a place to play and so yeah Donovan probably I'm less concerned about Polo playing or not and more about what do you do in left field if Donovan's not playing

I guess really I guess but then who's playing first I guess Solano Solano like you just all kind of doesn't quite fit and then who's and then who's D.H. right. Hanneter.

Yeah. Garber. So it just doesn't quite fit. Like it doesn't fit the, the Cardinals timeline. It. Are the Mariners better making this trade? That was my next question.

Yeah. I don't think they are actually. Like, I don't, I don't think the lineup is actually that much meaningfully better either. Because you replace Donovan with the Rosarena, and then you replace Aeronado,

or you replace Polanco with Aeronado, like, are those two guys definitely going to have higher WRC pluses? Like, you improve defensively. Yeah. But you probably give at least some of that back offensively. A lot is riding on Aeronado is going to be at least like a 110, 115 WRC plus back. right and again like even if you are a little bit better to you're definitely better

defensively but even if you are a little bit better offensively how much of that are you giving back going from castillo to emerson hancock probably all of it yeah so yeah and then also you lose dylan more who's your utility guy um so i don't know the mariners are better having made this trade i don't think it matches up with the cardinals timeline and how they want to do things because again they're trying to get rid of contracts very similar. I think if they are better after the steel, which they probably are, but if they are better, it's very slight. And there's enough questions here that make me hesitant enough to go, I don't know.

Yeah. It's definitely, it's definitely pretty interesting to like talk it out. and be like, well, you get this and this and then how does that? So it's definitely good there. I don't think it's realistic for either team. I think neither the teams really walk away with what they want. So I think 35, 40 is probably about right. But it's definitely like, hey, I mean, would you trade Aeronado?

Like individually, would you make these trades? Like, maybe. I mean, they're all in the ballpark. If you just break it down one player from one player, like, yeah, maybe. but when you combine them all together and you combine the team like when you take it out of the vacuum it just doesn't really make a lot of sense

for either side I don't think I'll give it a 45 still because of the creativity the uniqueness of it but the viability of it would I do it all that stuff is really bringing it down yeah it's interesting

but I just again when you take it out of the vacuum yeah and you put it into the real world, it just, I think it falls apart pretty quick. You're listening to the Lockdown Merrers podcast, got a couple more trades to go over.

Thank you so much. Ham Swaggerty, 69 has a deal here with the Diamondbacks. And this is a doozy as well. Yeah, I thought you'd like this one. All right. Let's get into this.

D'Raldo Pudelmo, Jake McCarthy, Jordan Montgomery, and $5.5 million cash to the Mariners for Bryce Miller, Harry Ford, and the Diamondbacks are also taking on Mitch Hanager's contract. You have to look at this as kind of two separate deals. Like Hanager and Montgomery, basically a wash when you include the money. And it's like, obviously Montgomery really doesn't want to be in Arizona. Arizona doesn't really want Montgomery to be there. So that's just a bad contract. I'm stunned.

That he's still there. Yeah. that's just a bad contract swap. Watch the Stroman for Montgomery trade in March. Honestly, Montgomery should be a Marlin. So, yeah, that is a separate thing. And it's like, okay, is that fair? I mean, Seattle definitely gets the better path to a viable big league contributor by getting Montgomery.

But, you know, Arizona rids themselves of kind of a bad relationship there. So really what it comes down to is, is Perdomo and McCarthy enough for Bryce Miller, and I say, hell no. No. There's just not enough. I really like Jake McCarthy. I don't need Jake McCarthy, though. And then Perdomo. He's a nice player, but he's J.P. Solid player, but he's not the all-star that he was in 2023. He's J.P. Crawford, above average glove, battle league average bat. Yeah. I'm not trading a guy that I think, could be one of the 10 to 15 best starting pitchers in baseball this year. Right.

Plus you're talking about what, five years of Miller for two years of Pardomo and four years of McCarthy. So you're not even gaining that much club control out of this. So I just think, you know, if I'm giving up Bryce Miller in a trade. Yeah. I am getting an all-star, an everyday all-star who would-year-cary-cary. Carol back in this deal. Right.

If I'm giving up Miller, I want Corbyn Carroll. And the Diamondback should say no to that. But that doesn't mean the mayor should say yes to whatever their counteroffer is. So like I, you know, Bryce Miller, like, they're like, hey, do you want Jordan Lawler for Bryce Miller? That's more interesting. But even then I'm like, no, because I want somebody who I know is going to produce or I feel really confident is going to produce at the big league level. And I don't feel that way about Lawler. I don't feel that way about, you know, Christian Campbell.

And obviously, a guy like Tristan Kossis isn't enough for Bryce Miller, in my opinion. So Miller is very difficult to move. I also feel like I have a better shot of getting him to sign an extension than I do Gilbert or Kirby because he's further away from free agency. So, like, Miller might be the guy I choose to build my starting pitching staff around for the next, you know, decade. We haven't even, by the way, talked about that you also have to give Harry Ford up in this deal. Yeah. Like, no, you're giving up the best asset by a mile in this trade.

The diamondbacks have to add on to even get Miller from you in this trade. And because you're not saving any money on the Hanager Montgomery thing, like there's no value attached to that in the Miller side of thing. So no, I think if Arizona wants Bryce Miller, it's Corbyn Carroll or it's, you know, like Zach Gallen and, you know, uh, loller. Like, it's something crazy. Like, yeah. So because, you know, again, like, I think Miller is probably, I feel like, if you told me Bryce Miller was in like Zach Allen's like, like range, I'd be like, yeah. And Miller's making $18 million less. so I need more if I'm going to make that swap. So yeah, I just don't think that Bryce Miller is being properly valued here. But it is a team that we don't talk about a lot in Arizona. It is certainly a unique idea and it is certainly a different style of trade than we normally cover here.

So I give you some credit for the creativity behind it. But it's just a non-starter for me. Like Arizona calls me with this. I probably laugh at them. for very similar reasons to the last trade that we just created. 45. Yeah, I'd probably go 40. I just don't think it's close to realistic.

The Mariner Mile has a deal. Why do you want to trade Bryce Miller? Why are we trying to trade Bryce Miller today? Stop it. Stop it. Bryce Miller and Brandon Garcia for Christian Campbell and Cutter Crawford. I'm good. I'd rather do this.

It's a really good process. Yeah, I'd rather do this than the last deal. Right. But no. Yeah. No. Like, if I'm trading Bryce Miller to the Red Sox, it's like, I don't think people realize how good Bryce Miller is. Yeah.

I think there's just like this idea that like, well, first of all, I think people forgot how good Miller was last year. Yeah. In general. But I also feel like people are under like estimating like how much more is still there to go get. because Miller, like Gilbert, he's actually gotten better every year he's been in the big leagues. And oh, by the way,

he's incredibly durable so far. And he's a tinkerer. Yep. See him working on this cutter now. Like, you get him for five more years. He's making the league minimum for at least one more year. Again,

he's incredibly durable for, you know, he throws a ton of strikes. Like he does everything you want and he hasn't even reached his peak yet. And so for that, It might be four more years on Miller, now that I'm thinking about it. I believe it's, no, it's five more years.

It's far more years because they didn't call him. He'll be super two this winter. But they didn't call him up until May or whatever. Like May or June or whatever. So that's just insanely valuable. And to be fair to this trade offer, like Christian Campbell is arguably the best prospect in baseball. and he's pretty much big league ready or he's really close to it. And Cutter Crawford is a guy that we've talked about.

We're pretty sure the Mariners really like Cutter Crawford. And they would consider him a viable replacement in their rotation should they trade a starter. But to me, like if I'm the Mariners and I'm having this serious conversation about Bryce Miller with the Red Sox, you're giving me Campbell, you're giving me Crawford, and you're giving me something else. You're probably like, it's probably Kossis.

It's probably Roman Anthem. Like I am demanding like two potential all-star players in return for Bryce Miller. Because that's how valuable, you know, young, cheap starting pitching is. That's already really good. Like Bryce Miller could win the Cy Young this year and I wouldn't be shocked. Yeah. I wouldn't bet on it. But I wouldn't be shocked.

Like Miller's an all-star quality pitcher. And you get him for five years and he's incredibly durable. There's really no injury concern. He throws strikes. And the stuff just keeps getting better and better each year. Yeah. There's a really good. We're going to finally start to see the strikeouts come and all that.

There's a really good shot that any deal you guys come up with Bryce Miller would be selling low on the guy. Yeah, it just seems like you would be getting out before it gets good. Like it gets really, really good for Miller. So. It's this guy. Would you rather trade George Kirby or Bryce Miller? The answer is neither. But if you had to pick one, would you rather trade right now?

Because I think I'd rather trade George. I think I'm there with you. I think people are going to get very upset about that take. But I don't care because I think Bryce Miller is really freaking good. And I also kind of see a clearer path to him getting more swing and mess than George Kirby right now. And to be fair, George Kirby is also really freaking good. He is. He is.

But. Best pitchers in the game. But would it be fair? Like to me, And maybe statistically this doesn't hold up. But I kind of feel like George stagnated last year. Like when Logan took a big leap, where Bryce took a big leap, where Wu took a big leap. I feel like Kirby would just kind of maintain.

I see Miller as someone that still has another gear or two. I don't know if I feel the same way about George Kirby. Like I want to be shocked if George did have one. Like if we just come out this year and he's striking out 10. guys per nine and he's just like sub three ERA and you're like okay there it is but also I wouldn't be shocked if he would just spend you know the next decade of his career about a strikeout for inning three and a half ERA not he's just this guy yeah yeah he's just this you know really good number two starter which is super valuable yeah that's amazing still like don't

give me wrong like this is not too uh this is not to trash George Kirby this is more about this is more about hyping up Bryce Miller than it is I just that Bryce Miller is really freaking good at this. And like he might be a legitimate top 10 pitcher by the end of this year. Say this for all the talk people have about like you got to get Cal Raleigh signed. You got to get George Kirby signed. I'd rather get Bryce Miller signed and locked into an extension than Cal Raleigh right now. Right now, even with five years left on Miller's too?

Yes. Yes. Because because he has five years left, I might be able to get like seven years at like $40 million. and Bryce Miller over the next seven years is going to be worth $200 million. Like, I mean, if Miller was on the free agent market right now with his, with his resume and with his reputation and with his arsenal and with the numbers he's already put up, even with the limited like resume just because of time, that's just how time works. Yeah. He's getting at least Luis Castillo money. the free agent market at least right now yeah yeah so castillo's been a bargain for seattle so

yeah yeah i i think you know i would prioritize miller uh over kirby over uh cow uh even with the extra years of club control you have uh now i should caveat all of this by saying give them all pay them all like pay logan pay george pay pay the entire pitching staff and if you have enough left over pay cow raleigh you're going to have enough left over pay over. But again, trying to live in the world of reality here where they're definitely not going to extend all these guys. Miller is the guy I would choose long term over anybody else on the staff, except for maybe Logan. That one's close. But also seems less likely that Logan would sign an extension here than Bryce. But hopefully we cut to this clip in three weeks when Logan signs a six-year

extension with the Mariners. That would be incredible. Yeah. All right. So getting off our soapbox, talking about how much we love Bryce Miller. Let's circle back on this trade here. Christian Campbell, great prospect. One of the best of the game, if not the best of the game. Still wouldn't do that. No. For all the reasons that we just talked about with Bryce Miller.

So, yeah, like where your heads at with this, but you guys need to stop trading Bryce Miller. I'll go 50. Send us all the Bryce Miller trades, and I will pick all of them next week. Nothing about Bryce Miller trades. Just to just keep on going a little bit higher. We'll find the line.

We'll find the player where ties like, fine, I'll trade Bryce Miller. We'll find them together. Sure. Yeah, I think this is 4550. Like, I think it's a fair place to start. It's not terrible. No. I just, and me, if I were the Mariners,

I would not have interest in this whatsoever. All right. Last trade of the day comes from Connor. one that's right yeah we got one more Jonah bride for Ashton isy feels light I view Jonah bride in a very similar light or like the idea of trading for him in a similar light

to the cabbiero for Luke greatly trade last year so I feel like either in this deal you have to give up a you know a solid major league rotational piece like Cabiero was in 23 or a better prospect

than Ash and Izzy yeah the difference here is that Tampa is always kind of trying to compete at the very least and Miami isn't even pretending they care about competing for anything. So the Cabiero idea probably doesn't work here

but right it's still a better prospect than Izzy. Yeah. I feel like the would probably be comfortable with Izzy for Bride. But we have to remember is that Jonah Bride's been good for exactly two months in his entire career. And he's 29 years old.

And yeah, he plays some third base, play some second base probably should be at first base. And there's a shot that you trade for Jonah Bride and he's just nothing. And you DFA him in May. Like, that's a very real shot. And Izzy is kind of an appropriate prospect to take a risk with you know, for a guy like Bride, you know, it's, it's like, yeah, we'll take a shot. And if it doesn't work, we're not devastated by losing Ashton Izzy. But if you're the Marlins, is easy enough?

Because if Bride does what he did the second half of last year, the first half of this year, then all of a sudden you have four years, five years, even though he's 29 years old, you still have this, you know, really good hitter who is going to be available and cheap So you're going to get more than Ash and Izzy if he's good. So if you're the Marlins, like, why not just take the gamble on Bride repeating? And you can probably get, even if Bride is only like just okay, like he's just a 100 WRC plus for the first couple months here, you probably in this trade market are going to get two Ashton Izzy's for him. And if he is what he was last year, he might be the most expensive, you know, bat that moves at the deadline,

as crazy as that is to say. So I think the Marlins is just, if you want Bride right now, you have to basically pay as if what he did in August and September last year is just who he is. It's real. And so I think that's probably like a Harry Ford

or like maybe a Michael Royo. And that's too big of a risk for me to take, but it's the exact kind of risk the Marlins should take. and just hold him because again, worst case, they get nothing for him, whatever.

Best case, he's good and they get like a top 100-ish prospect for him in July or a couple of, you know, top 150 types and, and they get something out of nothing. Like, Brad didn't cost him anything to acquire.

So they're not going to be desperate. He's not making money, right? So they're not going to be desperate to move him. So I think Izzy is the appropriate kind of risk the Mariners should take on a guy like Brian? I think the Marlins are going to want the Marlins to take a much bigger risk to trade Bride right now. Yeah, I agree on that front.

I would probably go 30 on this. I just don't think it even gets really much of a conversation started. Yeah, probably 35. I think to even get a conversation started like this, you'd probably be like, hey, do you want Logan Evans? like do you want a Garcia? Yeah. I think if you're going to start. At least someone that's close.

Izzy isn't even close. Right. It's either one Izzy or it's like or it's either one Evans or it's like three Ashton Izzy's. Like Izzy, Guff and. A third guy. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Maybe a maybe a reliever, maybe a Brockmore type. And you just kind of throw bulk upside at them. Maybe, but yeah, it's just, I don't think it starts the conversation. It just makes too much sense for the Marlins to be like, yeah, we're going to wait and see. Yeah. See what we have in July. Hey, speaking of prospects, next week is prospect week. So we'll do mailback Monday on Monday.

But Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, that is, those are all going to be prospect shows. We're going to be doing our top 30 prospect re-rank, which probably won't be two, two days. different from the last time we did it because the bearers didn't trade any of these guys. So they did add a couple of new guys though in the international signing period. Sure. I think the big question here is, does Ty have Ashton Izzy in his top 30? I guess you'll in next week. I can't imagine it will take past Tuesday for you to find out.

Because I'm sure people are just on the edge of their seat wondering where is Ashton Izzy going to land on the lockdown mayor's top. 30 prospect list. What a teaser that is, right? Yeah, yeah. Like, tune it on Tuesday to find out how we feel about Ashton Izzy. That's just going to rake in the views, Colby. All right.

Well, that's going to do it for us. We'll see you guys next week. Thanks so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marys podcast. Colby Patnaud. I'm Tiding Gazales. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at Elo underscore Marrers. You can follow me at Tiding Azales and Colby at C-Pat-11. Also on Blue Sky.

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