Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Fan Fiction Friday: Westburg, Kwan, and More

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's fan fiction Friday. Let's see what Mariners trades you cooked up this week. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors. It is Friday, December 6th, 2024.
Starting point is 00:00:24 This is Tudding Azores. And Colby Patnaud for the Lockdown Mariner's Podcasts, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. It's Fan Fiction Friday, the show where you submit your Mariners Trade Ideas, and we grade them on the 2080 scale based on creativity, uniqueness, and viability. Before we get into your trade, shout out to our title sponsor today, Game Time.
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Starting point is 00:01:06 He has a deal with the Orioles for a player that you, you've started to talk about a little bit over the last few days, Colby. Ramone Urius, who of course is the brother of Luis Arias. Also pitching prospect, Trace Bright is in the steel going to the mirrors for Logan Evans. Yeah, I talked about Eureas a little bit over the last couple of days. I've taken to coin him dollar store Alec Bohm because when you look at the players, and what they're like capable of. It's very similar.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Both guys are pretty consistently 105 to 115 WRC plus. Both guys in the totality of their careers have really inconsistent defensive metrics. Ureas was a very good third baseman until a couple of years ago. And the last couple of years have been bad. And Bohm is kind of the opposite where a couple years ago, he was very bad. And this last year for the first time his entire career, he was pretty good defensively, but not a lot of home runs, a lot of doubles, that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:02:08 The one thing that Boeum does have going for him is that he does get more at-bats, more played appearances than Urius does. Pretty much, you know, Bome is getting between $5.50 and $600 every year. Ureus is getting around 300. Yeah, Aureas is basically a part-time player. Right. But again, the difference here is that Eurice is making $3 million. Boll is making $8. the Phillies are reportedly asking for Logan Gilbert or George Kirby for Alec Bone.
Starting point is 00:02:37 And I think you can get Ramon Urias for less than Logan Evans, actually. Yeah, yeah. It's a difference of cost. And again, if we're looking specifically at the bat and just kind of the profile. Now, can Urias do what he does over 300 plate appearances? Can he do that if you make the everyday guy? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:59 The Orioles didn't seem to think so. But then again, the Orioles have an absolutely loaded infield. So it's not apples and oranges. But again, considering the cost, both monetarily and in trade capital, I think Urias is a fine like substitute, hence, you know, a dollar for Alec Bome. So yeah, I think you're overpaying a little bit. I don't know enough about Bright to give you anything. I know he's been in AAA and he misses some bats, but he has some walk issues as well,
Starting point is 00:03:28 not great stuff. But it also kind of feels like Logan Evans is in the steel because you're getting bright. Right. And I don't really need. I don't really need bright. I have Logan Evans. Right. I mean, like, again, like if it is like Morales or like Evans even for Eureas,
Starting point is 00:03:45 because I think you get three years of Euras. If I'm not mistaken, he's R of one. Uh, two. Two. Okay. So two years of Eureas for, you know, kind of a number four ceiling starting pitcher, at least as they sit right now. who hasn't made his major league debut yet.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's not egregious. I think it's a little bit of an overpay. I think you're probably like one ladder rung too high in the prospect, you know, range that you're looking for. But yeah, no, I think Urias is an interesting addition if you're going to go cheaper at third base. Like maybe if you do end up acquiring Horner and you have to kind of skimp at third base a little bit, just go get Eurias and pay him $3 million. And then you have him and Dylan Moore kind of share that spot for a while. So I'll give it a probably a 50. I think you're overpaying a little bit here.
Starting point is 00:04:37 But I don't think it's egregious. So 45 to 50. Yeah, I'll give it a 50. I don't really need Bright. So if I can lower the cost from Logan Evans to, you know, what have you. If I just remove Bright from the deal, then I'm probably just doing that. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, like, in general,
Starting point is 00:04:57 all this is this is fine so yeah i'll give it a 50 um yeah i do have some concerns about like i mean because in this instance you would probably be giving a rea or at least planning on it from from the start to give him you know 400 500 pled appearances um what does that look like considering he's only i mean his career high in played appearances is 445 and he was a 106 w rc plus that year which is more than fine he was uh basically a three-win player by fan graph standards that year He crush his lefties. He can hold his own against righties. So, I mean, yeah, there's a possibility that even with the increase of play appearances,
Starting point is 00:05:35 he's going to be at least a league average bat for you. I'd rather give him everyday reps than somebody like Andy Abagnas. Yeah. The splits are bigger with Abanias, essentially, than they are with. Well, yeah, and Abanias is a weak side platoon through and through. Like, he can't hit Ritey's at all. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yeah. So, yeah, so Arias, I think it's fine, especially as like a fallback, you know, if you're not able to get, you know, Bome or whoever. So, yeah, and if it all costs me, even if it was just Logan Evans for Aria straight up, I'd be fine with that for two years of Ares. You'd be like, okay. Well, because at the very least, the Rias has proven, and he's got, you know, a fairly long track record now that he is, you know, at worst a. solid, you know, role player. Yeah. I can give you, you know, solid offensive production over the course of 300 played appearances.
Starting point is 00:06:36 So, yeah, that helps. CJ has a deal here with the Cubs. The Mariners get Cody Bellinger and Nico Horner for Luis Castillo, Mitch Garver, the comp a pick that the Mariners landed yesterday, which we talked about a little bit towards the end of yesterday's episode, Ty Pete and Logan Evans. To me, when I read this, it comes off as like Castillo's a negative in this deal. Right. And if Castillo is going to be viewed as a negative because of the money, then I don't want to trade Luis Castillo.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Well, and I certainly don't want to trade him for Cody Bellinger because Bellinger essentially was Luis Castillo from the offensive side this year. Above average, but not great. Coming off of a, you know, what was a down year because of it, they both dealt with. some injuries. Castillo much more minor than what Bellinger did, but either way, I think they both ended up being right around two and a half when players. So like if Castillo's a negative in this market where pitchers are getting paid out of their minds, worse pitchers than Cassio. Then Bellinger is certainly a negative. So to me, yeah, it feels like you're way, you're over, but because you're not even saving that much money in the straight either.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You're actually probably net even because Bellinger is making about $3 million more than Castillo is. Yeah. And Garber is making about $2 million more than. Yeah, it's if you want to factor in Bellinger's $5 million buyout, then it's $43. And him and Horner combined for the next year plus, about $43 million. and then Castillo and Garver. 37. Yeah, like 30.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah. So you're still adding. So you're still adding payroll here when you factor in Bellinger's buyout. And on top of that. And on top of that, I have to give up the comp A pick, which is basically the equivalent of like a top seven prospect of the Marys Farm system and probably a top five prospect for like. I kind of landed on like it's like another Harry Ford is kind of like what I'm where I've landed on how to value that. but admittedly that's a guess yeah um and then i also have to give up type heat and what was the other piece was the Logan evans uh yeah yeah i don't yeah no i think this is too much from the
Starting point is 00:09:14 mayor side it just feels like you're about and by the way you've added six million dollars in payroll you've traded a lot of you know well not a lot but you've traded some of your better assets here you still need a number four starter number three starter and now you need a backup catcher too and i don't know if you guys have seen the catching market danny jansen just signed his one-year deal yeah it's pretty barren already like these catchers are getting scooped up really fast uh and i don't think you can sit here and say how much the jansen get do you know do we see it uh eight and a half million okay uh which is really nice deal for tampa they desperately needed the catcher. But anyways, yeah, so you still need a backup catcher. And it's not going to be
Starting point is 00:09:58 Harry Ford. He's not ready by opening day to be the backup catcher. And you don't want him to sit six days a week anyways. And you have to go get another starter. And again, what do number four starters get? I don't know. Matt Boyd just got 14 and a half million a year off of eight starts. You've already added $6 million to your payroll. So no, I don't think this works really at I just, even if the valuation is accurate, I don't think the Mariners would make this trade. I just think they look at this and they be like, look, I don't think they should. Because again, the way this reads to me is as if like Castillo's viewed as kind of a wash, if not a negative. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Because of the money. And he's not, especially relative to, you know, what the U.S. Cacucci's and the Louis Severinos of the world are getting right now. So, yeah. Frankie Montas got $18 million a year. Yeah. Like with a near 5 ERA. You're telling me that the $6 million difference between Montes and Castillo is essentially negligible?
Starting point is 00:11:03 No. No, it's not. So, yeah, it just feels a little too rich for me. Yeah. When we go 30 on in this. We go 35. Yeah. All right.
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Starting point is 00:12:59 Dorian has a deal here with the Guardians. Josh Naylor and Nick Sandlin for Harry Ford, Logan Evans, and Michael Royal. It's one year of Naylor. It is one year of Naylor. How much club control does Sandlin have? I think he is R2.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I'm not mistaken. It might be RB1. But either way, Sandlin is a middle reliever. That's who he is. So it's one year of nailer and then you get a couple years of a middle relief type. Pretty good one in Sandlin. You know, he's got some funky delivery and a lot of interesting pitches and all that
Starting point is 00:13:40 stuff. So like Sandlin is interesting. He was worth negative 0.7F for this year. Yeah. Out of that album. With a 375ERA and a 1061 case per nine. I mean, he did walk. He did post a four point.
Starting point is 00:13:53 2-1 walks per 9, but 5-2-3-fib Yeah, so interesting stuff on Sandlin obviously didn't have a very good year this year. Naylor. Yeah, I'd have to do more digging on
Starting point is 00:14:10 on Sandlin and figure out what happened there, but Right. But again, he's kind of a distant second piece here. Like, that's like Logan Evans for Nick Sandlin. It's like how to break this deal down. And that's probably fine, but I feel like you have like... Arroyo and Ford for one year of Nailer.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah. I don't think that your valuation is off. I just think that years wouldn't do that for one year of Nailer. Yeah. And Nailor's a good player. Don't get me wrong. But it's one year. It's a guy who's kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:46 with the Mitch Hanager route of like, hey, yeah, I could, you know, hit 270 with a 350 on base and hit 20 home runs. but for me to get paid, I got to hit 30 home runs. So now I'm going to hit, you know, 250 with a 330 on base instead, which is still, again, very good, very good player, very good hitter. Yeah. Well, good hitter.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But one year of that guy and all you're getting is the offense, you're not getting any new base running or defense or anything like that. And it's going to cost you forward and a royo, maybe for one of those guys. But I think both of them is just a slight overpay, particularly when you're probably already overpaying for Samlin who again I do like despite the numbers
Starting point is 00:15:27 but I don't know it just feels a little off to me yeah I'll give it a 45 I think I think the mayor is if they're being asked to give up Ford and a Royal for one year of Naylor they're probably going and we'll just give Carlos Santana
Starting point is 00:15:45 or Justin Turner you know $8 million or $7 million or whatever man yeah I think that's probably they're out they would go. Yeah. So, yeah, so 45.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I think the valuations in the ballpark, though. I just don't think the Mariners would pay. Yeah. Like what Josh Naler would probably require.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So, yeah, I'll go 45 as well. Yeah. All right. We're going to wrap things up here on fan fiction Friday in just a moment.
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Starting point is 00:17:31 a couple top French top 100 guys. Oh, my God. I just saw the merit. I didn't look at it beforehand, did you? No, no, I just kind of copied it and pasted it on the background to get ready for the show. Holy moly. Look at this hole for the mirrors.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Swinging big. Good Lord. Garrett Crochet, Luis Robert, is Jordan Westberg to the mirrors. and George Kirby and Gregory Santos, the Orioles. So the Orioles are giving up Kobe Mayo and Jordan Westberg for George Kirby and Gregory Santos. Well, I love George Kirby.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah, I feel like it's probably dead right there. Yeah, yeah, I don't think. Westford and Mayo? Kobe Mayo, yeah. Like one of them, sure. Yeah. both of them no
Starting point is 00:18:23 you know I gotta I gotta give you props for it's creative shooting for the moon here but uh yeah it's unique you gotta give
Starting point is 00:18:33 it's just yeah yeah not always in a three team deal it's I see I see why you pick this I see why you pick this I think you could kind of see the logic of the trade you're like
Starting point is 00:18:45 oh well I mean if the Mariners trade George Kirby but they replace them with crochet, like sure they lose club control, but I mean, coming off your crochet is that's probably a net even. Well, if you're the Mariners and you're giving
Starting point is 00:19:00 up Kirby, Emerson, and Ford and Evans. And we'll throw Evans into there as well. Sure. Like, you should be getting you should be getting back a hall, right? But, oh, it's Santos. Yeah, yeah, and Santos.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Like, you should be getting a hall back. And they did. they did I mean yeah like the White Sox of the mirrors are big winners here I mean like the Orioles are getting George Kirby so like don't get me wrong it's not like they're losing this deal but
Starting point is 00:19:31 for Westberg and Mayo I just don't think they would I think you can really ask for one part of like part of me feels like I'm like complaining about like explosions in space and Star Wars like like none of this is happening so why am I complaining about this one thing, this one aspect of
Starting point is 00:19:52 like Mario shoot fireballs when he's underwater. Yeah, but I think it's, I think it would be reasonable-ish. You love for me speechless here. Yeah, I mean, Ties having the same reaction I did when Colton told me his ridiculous Chris Bryant trade on his office. Yeah. Or like, I don't know. Safeway Fred Myers.
Starting point is 00:20:20 or whatever they were getting back in that deal. Yeah, I feel like if it was like one of Mayo or Westberg and then you kind of probably replace, I think the Mariners would probably have to add more to this to get the White Sox to do it if Mayo's not involved. And at that point, if you're the mayor, it's like, look, we're already giving up Ford, Emerson, Evans, Kirby, and Santos. Like, yeah, I don't, and I don't like the White Sox are giving up
Starting point is 00:20:49 crochet and Gilbert, sorry, and Robert, you know, in one deal unless they're sure that they're getting overpaid, like they're getting a haul. And they're getting a haul. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're getting a haul. No, the White Sox would do this. I am very confident that they would, yes, absolutely. I mean, they're getting Emerson and Mayo. That could be the starting left side of their infield for the next decade. Well, they're the White Sox. They're not going to pay those guys. So for the next five years. Yeah. The funny thing. about this trade is like I think two of these teams
Starting point is 00:21:21 would actually do it. I just don't think the Orioles would do it. Again, if you took out Mayo and maybe the Orioles give up one of their other prospects, but the problem is Bradfield or someone like that. Maybe, but even then, like at that point
Starting point is 00:21:39 do the White Sox do it? Maybe they still do. They really like Emerson. Yeah. But it feels like they would only do this trade because they're getting Emerson and May. I'm considering something crazy here for this train. Oh, no. I'm considering something really crazy here.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's interesting. And it is unique. And it is very rare that ties left speechless by anybody by myself. I'm feeling, I'm feeling kind of dangerous right now with the grade that I might give this. I'm going to give it a 55 with the big chunk being taken. It has to at least be a 60. I think the viability here is the fact that like two of these teams would actually probably do this.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Like I think that earns a 60. I think that the viability is like so bad. Yeah. That it has to drop it. Yeah. Like it. And I think I'm being pretty generous by only dropping it half a grade. Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:45 So like I'm going to go 55. Again, I think you're big. hang up here is that the Orioles, even though they're getting George Kirby, they're not giving up Mayo and Westberg because simply put, if the Orioles want to upgrade their rotation and they're willing to trade Mayo or Westberg, they can get crochet. And the Mariners don't need to be in this deal. All right. I'm talking myself down. I'm going to give it a 60. I was legitimately, I was legitimately thinking a 70. I was legitimately thinking a 70. This might be like ties like the most favorite trade we've ever gotten on fan fiction Friday.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Because I'm like, I'm looking at it. It's insane. But it's also like, you know what? Like, yeah. You can look at it and you can be like, okay. Like this is a little off, but like, maybe. I mean, you're not getting two years of crochet. You're getting what, four years of Kirby?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Like. Yeah. Big difference. Yeah. So. 65 screw it keep on bouncing back and forth I'll split the difference 65 I don't care about the viability aspect of it with this this is this is fun this is this is really fun good job J.S I'm proud of you it's so unhinged that tie has left his morals yeah like his
Starting point is 00:24:12 grading morals he's like yeah screw the rubric yeah What an insane trade. I love that one. That's great. I thought you might like it. Good job picking that one. Good job coming up with it, JS. So we got another three-team deal here from our buddy Isaac.
Starting point is 00:24:36 The mayors get Stephen Kwan and Andreas Jimenez and cash, $25 million cash. The Guardians get George Kirby, the comp round A selection, and Aiden Curry. And the Rangers get Mitch Garber. the full salary, Ben Williamson and Michael Morales. No, I'm not interested. As much as I like Stephen Kwan, I'm not interested in him and as it's going to cost me the comp round A pick. And Kirby.
Starting point is 00:25:03 It's going to cost Ann Kirby. Like, no, because now, Isaac talked to us on our Patreon show and I know he's a big Stephen Kwan fan and he also is a big, you kind of have to trade from the rotation guy. I don't agree with him on that part. I do agree that Stephen Kwan would be a phenomenal fit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for what they want this offense to be. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And the ballpark and all that, yeah. The problem with Jimenez is that $25 million basically pays for the last year of his contract. And you're still on the hook for three more years. And that contract is going from $5 million this last year to $15 million this upcoming year to $21 million the year after. So while the money does help, you're still talking about a second baseman who has, been well below, who's turning down offensively and was well below average there this year, an elite defender, like probably the best defensive second basement in baseball, maybe the best defensive player in all of baseball, just regardless of position. But again, I have to give up
Starting point is 00:26:04 George Kirby, a comp round A pick, and Ben Williamson. Like Kirby for Kwan straight up, I'd still rather have George Kirby. But I think like, I understand the logic behind that, you know, that swap. But again, now it's a comp round A pick, Ben Williamson, Michael Morales for Andres Jimenez so that I can kind of unload one year of the Mitch Garber contract. It just feels like I'm paying too much to unload Garber's contract. And then again, oh, by the way, I still need a starting pitcher, a number three starting pitcher. And I need a backup catcher now. I do have money to spend, though. I do have some money. So it's just a little bit off for me. I just don't like spending all that on himinez just to kind of clear some stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Well, it feels like the Rangers just exist here to take on Garver, which I understand, but right. I mean, but I would not trade Ben Williamson to clear the, you know, 11 and a half,
Starting point is 00:27:08 12 million dollars that Mitch Garver's making this year. Because again, I still need a backup catcher. And I think there's a decent chance that Garver can rebound and have some legitimate role with this Mariners team. And Ben Williamson, pretty sure he's a big leaguer. A really good one.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I don't know. Probably not. A useful one maybe. Yes, a useful one. So yeah, it just feels a little bit, I feel like the marriage is giving up just a little bit too much, mostly to dump the Mitch Garver salary. And I just,
Starting point is 00:27:40 you know, and again, I'd rather have Kirby than Kwan, although I totally understand that part. So I think for me. Well, and if you're also getting Jimenez, then,
Starting point is 00:27:48 yeah. Yeah, I think what you would do with the money would be incredibly important. Right, but that's not. If you're getting, I don't know, Anthony Sontan or Christian Walker, right? Let's say this allows you to sign Christian Walker and you're trading Kirby, the comp round A, Garber, blah, blah, blah, and you're getting Kwan, Jimenez, and
Starting point is 00:28:08 Christian Walker as a result, that's more interesting to me. But ultimately, I just, I'm going to go 40, I'll go 40, 45, somewhere in that rate. Yeah, it's kind of leaning towards a 50, but I'll split the difference. I can see that, yeah. Yeah, I'll split the difference of a 45 and a 50. I'm like somewhere in there. I'm somewhere in there, 47 and a half. Yeah, it's, I mean, my main takeaway from this is the Rangers make off like bandits.
Starting point is 00:28:48 So, yeah. They contribute very little to this trade and get. I mean, to be fair, it's not like they're getting an elite player or anything like that, but they're getting a couple solid prospects and a pretty decent bounceback guy that they know works in their ballpark and in their clubhouse. Yeah. I don't know. To me, the Rangers aspect and the Garver aspect kind of feels unnecessary here.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I feel like you could still make this deal between the Guardians and the Marys and he wouldn't have to. Especially if you're, especially if you're getting $25 million from the guardians. By the way, hurts the viability score. the guardians aren't sending you $25 million. Yeah. So, yeah, like if it was just Kirby and like the comp round A pick for Kwan and Jimenez and the money, that would be, I think, you know, more in line with, you know, something that's realistic.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So very interesting. But just feels like you're overvaluing Kwan a little bit and you're overvaluing Jimenez. And I feel like you're trying to do almost. everything in one trade. Yeah. It's interesting. Oh, you know what? Bonus for being a three-team trade, too.
Starting point is 00:30:00 So I will go, yeah, I think between 45 and 50 is appropriate. Yeah. All right. Last deal of the day comes from Matthew. It's a one-for-one with the Diamondbacks. Andreas Munoz for Jordan Lawler. You want to take the shot on Lawler? Former, what, top six pick?
Starting point is 00:30:17 It's nice to have a simple one-for-one, isn't it? Yeah. After the last couple trade. Nice to have a little bit of a breather. Very basic. Yes or no. Yeah. I like Lawler.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I do too. I don't think I want to take the shot with Munoz, though. Yeah, I think if I'm trading Munoz, I want an established major league. Yeah. I do really like Loller a lot. And he's probably ready for to be challenged at the major league level. He had a cup of coffee last year. Not last year, 2023.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Okay. Yeah. So last year, he was hurt. Yeah, I like Lawler. And is he a better prospect than Colt Emerson, who's also a shortstop? Probably depends on who you ask. But yeah, he's closer to the big leagues too, so that helps. And obviously, you could just move Emerson to third.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And, like, the idea that you're out or that you're infield by, you know, by 2025, like, or by, like, I don't know what, June of 2026 could be Cole Young at second, Jordan Lawler at short. Colt Emerson at third or put them in whatever position you want, it doesn't really matter. Super intriguing. I just don't think I'm quite willing to do that yet. But if they did, like if this came across the ticker, that would be a fascinating, like, trade to break down. And it would probably be one where our opinions would change as you and I would talk out. Because this is one of those trades where like if it happens, you and I have to sit down
Starting point is 00:31:52 and like point, counterpoint, like, yeah. Yeah, I can talk myself into the story. I can talk myself into it either way. And I just don't know where I would land like the minute it happens. Probably a 50. I'm going to give this a 60. Ooh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 These trades have been good today. I'm saying, man. There were a lot of other good ones too. Yeah. So good job, guys. Yeah. This might be our best fan fiction Friday ever, to be honest. Now, I don't remember every single fan fiction Friday we've done, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yes, we know. I's absolute favorite episode to record. But there's some weeks where, like, they're all stinkers. This is the complete opposite of that. You guys have been inspired by the mere mention of the everyday player coming to Seattle, potentially. Yeah. So. Heck, honestly, when we do this next week, if we don't get enough good questions in the new one,
Starting point is 00:32:55 we might just go back and dig through this week's pile and find some that are still relevant because there were other good ones and I try to find variety like I didn't want like six cups trades and all that so yeah yeah this was uh it's a good week guys nicely done yeah uh this is very thought provoking and I think it's realistic I think that Diamondbacks especially with like Seawald exiting and they've had like other you know and obviously Seawald wasn't their closer. He lost that job. But again, you know, Seawald exiting and they've had some pitching issues. Like, if you throw Andres Munoz their way, they're probably looking at that like, all right. And they saw Romo, they still have Marte, they still have Suarez. Yeah. Munoz is really
Starting point is 00:33:44 cheap this year. He starts to get more expensive over the next couple of years, but still well below market value. And they're all options too. So Munoz stinks or if he gets hurt or whatever. you aren't on the hook for the rest of the entire salary. You can kind of pick and choose when you want to hop out on this. So yeah, I think this is the type of player the Mariners would ask for if they were going to trade Munoz. And the Diamondbacks do seem like a team that are in the middle of a window. Yep. Would value the not only the club control, but the relative cheapness of Andres Munoz.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And they have a little bit of excess here in the middle infield. So yeah. I think this is an interesting deal. Again, it just, like, if it ever happened, like, I could talk myself into a 60. I could talk myself into like a 40, 45. Well, probably no lower than a 45. Like, I would never hate a trade like this, but no. It's super interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Like, the farthest I would probably go would be like, I wish they would have gotten a more established guy. So, drop to 45, but. This is really good. The only thing that, like, keeps it from being an even higher score for me is just like, yeah, it's the hesitant. like is this really what the mariner should do um but uh chances are there was ever an 80 great trade one of the sides would never do it you know i mean like both sides have to assume some risk yeah uh so um good job yeah this is really good it was really good um yeah all all a lot of these trades um were really really strong i was given us 65 and a 60 today and i was
Starting point is 00:35:25 considering a 70 at one point yeah I mean like have we ever given out a 70 maybe maybe maybe we've done early on when we were still like trying to like yeah we've we've done this show for god three years now it's been three years fan fiction Friday I think we've done this been like a year one thing for us I think so I think that's I think it's been two or three I think it's been two or three years of doing this so and obviously off and on, you know, there will be stretches where we don't do fan fiction Friday, but yeah, we've done a lot of these, and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I can't remember if we've ever given out a 70 or anything like that, but yeah, I don't even really, to be honest with you guys, I don't even know what my criteria is for a 70, 75, 80. So, you know, I just kind of vibe out on this show, but if you guys want a 70, I would recommend putting Brett Beatty in your trades, knowing forward. That's a quick way to get a 20. That's a very quick way to get a 20.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Brett Beatty is Ties Emerson Hancock. Yeah, yeah. No, he is. He really is. I just, I don't get it. I don't understand it at all. Anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:39 All right. Well, cool. This was a lot of fun. Thank you all for all of your trades. Sorry to, you know, the many of you that submitted trades that we weren't able to get to on this episode. Maybe we'll revisit some of them, though, next week. So yeah, that's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marries podcast.
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