Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Fan Fiction Friday: What Could a Mariners-Cubs Trade Look Like?

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

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Colby and I react to your Mariners trade proposals coming up here on the Lockdown Marrars podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Oh, hoys, sailors. It is Friday. January 26, 2024. This is Tiding.

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80 being the best of course we're going to start with anonymous Bryce Miller and Gabriel Gonzalez to the diamondbacks for Dominic Fletcher and slayed Cicconi Miller's obviously the most valuable piece on the steel and I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that Gabby Gonzalez is the second most valuable piece in the

steel yeah if they traded Gonzalez for Fletcher straight up like okay fine they traded a guy who's further away for a guy who could theoretically help him now, fine. Even then it's probably a tad bit of an overpay, and I'm not a huge Gabby Gonzalez guy. I have them. I'm assuming I'll have him much lower than, for example, pipelines dropping their top 100 tonight. I'm assuming whenever they drop their top 30 that my ranking of Gonzalez will be lower than theirs.

But even then, Gonzalez for Fletcher, like, fine. That's totally fine. And it's kind of, you know, too evil allah for, who was, Tuile Blala and who was the pitcher? Went to Rice. Seth Ellage. Yes. Yeah, it's kind of like that, right?

You trade a guy who might help you in a couple of years for a guy who could help you this year. They have similar ceilings. I think that's the idea behind it. But Bryce Miller is worth three times this. So it's a 20. Like you are way undervaluing Bryce Miller. This looks like a trade that was crafted by a Diamondbacks fan. Yes.

And not a very informed. one. Fletcher. I like Fletcher and I like Cicconi. I think that Cicone is probably more of a, you know, high leverage reliever rather than a starter. I think that's what his ceiling ultimately is, which can help. I mean, look, Cicone and Fletcher can help you now, whereas Gonzalez can't, but Bryce Miller is by far the most valuable piece in the steel by a long shot. He's in another galaxy compared to the other three pieces in the steel. And again, I, like, overall, all value, not just in terms of, you know, who, who can impact me in 2024. Again, I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that Gonzalez is the second most valuable

piece. This deal. So it's, yeah, this is a non-starter for me. This is a, I, honestly, it might be a 20 to a 25. Like, it's a 20. It's, it's so off that it makes me wonder, like, did you forget to type Cattel Marte's name before he sent it? Right.

Because even then, I'm probably still a no on the mariner's side, but it's much more like, okay. Like, it's palatable. So, yeah, this one is way to like, have some respect for Price Miller's name. He's way more valuable than this. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Moving on to Edonis Haslam.

Kevin Biggio from the Blue Jays for Cade Marlowe and Jimmy Joyce. Why did the Blue Jays do this? Yeah, I don't think this is something the Blue Jays would do. I got to ask about Bizzio not too long ago if the Blue Jays would have any interest in trading him and look I know I live in Toronto but I don't have the best finger on the pulse

of what's going on with everything Blue Jays but I believe that if they're going to trade any infielder off of their major league roster before opening day it's probably going to be Aspinall and not Bizio Bizio helped them towards the end of this past season he's actually finally started to come into his own a little bit he's finally started

started to carve out an actual role for himself on that roster. Yeah. I just, I don't think this is, somebody's been on the cabin Bigeo bandwagon for quite a while and somebody else was telling him, no, he's terrible.

Interesting. He was at the time that I said that. Yeah. So would you say that I wasn't wrong, Ty? I was just early. Sure. Imagine that.

We'll go with that. Yeah. Sure. So let me just spend this then like, what of the deals for Espinall? Then how would you feel? about it. Because for me, I think I might rather have Marlowe than

Espinall. Because that's what the theory is a player that the Mariners could look at because they're looking for another infielder. They want a guy who could play second and third. Sure. He fits. But I just don't really see the point in Espinall, right?

Yeah. Bizio is someone that I think just has a higher ceiling. It can impact the Mariners in more ways than Espinall can. Um, so I would rather, like, if it's just between the two guys, right, in a vacuum, I'd rather have Biggio than Espinall. Uh, that's obviously not how this works. But I just, I don't think this is enough. And I'm not sure if this would be enough for Espinall either in the blue jays eyes. Right. Um, I don't know. I like Cade Marlowe. Like, I do too. I do too. I don't think Jimmy Joyce is moving the needle at all, like in any direction. Um, not Joyce is like a fine back top 30 prospect, but. I just don't see it. So I think overall I got to give this one. It's like a 40.

Like seen a lot worse, but it's not. I don't think it's all that close. But again, caveat we normally put at the top of every episode like the Mariners were able to trade Jose Caviaro for Luke Grayley. And if that deal had come across, you know,

on fan fiction Friday, we probably would have given it like a 30, the lack of realism. And so we don't know. Like, beauty's in the eye of the beholder, always. It really is.

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tickets, lowest price, guaranteed. And you're listening to the Lockdown Airs podcast. Thank you again for making us to your first listening. As a reminder, Lockdown has launched the first ever national sports 24-7 streaming channel on YouTube. Locked-on Sports Today is here for you 24-7, covering the top sports stories of the day with the local experts of Lockdown, plus our national shows covering every league. Go to Lockdown Sports Today on YouTube and subscribe to the first ever national sports 24-7 streaming channel part of the locked on podcast network of your team every day so before we get back into your trades couple things that we want to go over here real quick one programming note for you guys

uh we're going back to five shows a week starting the week of February 5th uh so Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday you guys are getting locked on Mariners until midish December uh you know someday Some weeks, we'll take a day off here and there, maybe even two. Who knows. But we'll let you guys know ahead of time. But the plan every week is to release a show every single day. And that also means that our Patreon shows over on Control of Zone will be going back to Monday and Wednesday.

Again, barring any sort of scheduling changes that we need on a week-to-week basis. But that's the plan. So we're back to our normal schedule in about a couple weeks' time here. So secondly, we're bringing question of the day back. I don't even know why we went away from it in the first place. I think I forgot it on one episode. And then I was just like, I guess we're just not doing that anymore. But we're bringing it back now.

So Colby, question of the day. What is the question of the day? Power rank the five best chips. You get, think this through guys. There's poker chips. There's chocolate chips. There's, you know, chip on the shoulder, ice chip. Chip Kelly, Chip Easton.

Maybe you're a big who's line fan. There's a lot of good chips. So maybe your top three chips. We'll make it simple. Top three chips. Potato. I know who won't be on that list. You mean future Super Bowl winning offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly?

I imagine he will. Jacob has a trade here with the Cubs. Or just actually just wants to know what our thoughts would be on the Cubs as a trade partner for Logan Gilbert or Bryce Miller. or Bryce Miller for essentially Pete Crow Armstrong or Christopher Morel that's what they assume the centerpieces would be we got a lot of Cubs trades

for obvious reasons a lot of talk about the Cubs on Marys Twitter the last few days because of that one random Cubs Twitter account that was like oh yeah the Marys and Cubs talked about Marrars pitching and Nick Madrigal like earlier this offseason but all of a sudden that that means like that's still a thing

Anywho, let's talk a little bit about the Cubs. We talked about this on our Patreon show yesterday. So obviously it's very different depending on what pitcher we're talking about here, whether it's Louis Castillo, whether it's Logan Gilbert, whether it's Bryce Miller, Brian Wu. The most likely pitchers to get traded would be Miller, Wu, in theory. What would you want back from the Cubs if you're the Marers? I think the Mariners to be interested in moving either those guys at all is going to be looking for at least what the Marlins for Pablo Lopez, you know, which was Luis Arise, a fringy top 100 prospect, and then like a lottery ticket.

So I think that's what the Mariners would want to move Miller or Wu because of the seller's market. We know how hard of pitching is. And, you know, while Lopez has more of a track record, Miller and Wu both have more club control than Lopez did and pretty similar upsides. And they're cheaper. And we know a lot of teams right now are trying to. to cut back on their financials. So I think that's what the Mariners would want in Cubs terms. That's like, you know, probably, is probably Horner, the second baseman.

It's probably Kate Horton or, you know, Ben Brown, maybe. And then it's a lottery ticket down the system. Now, if you're the Cubs, why would you do that? Like, you could just use Ben Brown instead of trading for Bryce Miller or Brown. and you get to keep Horner. So from that aspect, the Cubs aren't going to do it, but the Mariners really don't have any incentive to trade, for example, one of those guys straight up for Morel,

who's kind of a popular name here, because that dude doesn't have a position. Like, he's pretty much a DH. Like, I mean, he's athletic, but he's not good anywhere. And then the Mariners have to go out. They don't save any money with that deal. And now they have to go out and get another pitcher to replace him. So I don't think the Cubs and the Mariners are all that good of fits.

to be honest. Yeah. Could the Cubs, you know, make a really enticing offer for Logan Gilbert if the mayors wanted to go big? Sure, they could. I mean, in theory, they have the pieces. Yeah. But again.

Those pieces are multiple major leaguers off of the Cubs roster. We're talking about it. Probably a prospect like Kate Horton. Yeah, because you have to replace the arm. So you're talking, I would imagine, at least Ian Hap, you know, Morrell, and then. Or Horner. Yeah, or Horner. And then like maybe because you're getting two major leaguers,

maybe the third piece is like Jordan Wicks, an arm like that and Matt Mervis, like some kind of bulk on the back end. But you're just because it's like we've talked to the back. Yeah, it's like we've talked about in the past. It's just so unprecedented to trade a starting pitcher that's as established as Logan Gilbert is with four years left of club control

before he even hit. Before he even hits like the real years of arbitration. You know, when he is, you know, because he's only R-1 right now, and he's making basically nothing relative to his production, that has to cost a team that's trying to acquire him a lot, a lot. And I just,

I don't think that's something that really any team would be willing to pay. Because it's just too much, especially if you are a team that's trying to contend, like I think the Cubs are going to try this year. I think the Cubs truly think they have a shot at that division, which that division is pretty much up in the air right now. like yeah Gilbert helps your rotation a lot

but if you're subtracting if you're also simultaneously subtracting Christopher Morel or Nico Horner Ian Hap or two of those three guys from the equation plus one of your best prospects from your system I just think that's too much you know there was that Jim Bowden tweet

which BUS directly from Scott Boris it's BS like let's just that let's just address that real quick. Um, like that's not happening. But in that scenario, where, you know, because

Bowden, for those that don't know, Bowden tweeted that the, the Mariners are listening to offers on pitching still. They probably are. Yeah. Like that's probably true, but that's probably true. And, you know, they're always listening. They're always listening on everything. I mean, they wouldn't be doing their job since they

weren't listening on, on everything. Um, but they're listening on pitching. And, he says if they did trade a pitcher they would turn around and possibly sign blake snell to fill that that spot in their rotation so one thing i'll just note i i've been told that they haven't made contact with with snell's camp at all so um and that's as recent as two days ago so yep it's not happening guys but but if that's but just for a second if that scenario were to transpire i think the picture, you know, we assume that's Miller

or Wu, but I think the pitcher that would actually get traded is Luis Castillo. And then they would essentially replace Castillo's salary with Snells. So, what would a Castillo to the Cubs trade look like? Well, and then that's the problem is that

you know, Horner and Hap are making money. And so you're not going to clear all of Castillo's salary, but you're also not going to trade Castillo for prospects because the Cubs don't have a ton of the, you know, major league guys who aren't making money yet. It's pretty much morale and then it have to be a buttload of top-end prospects.

That just doesn't make a lot of sense for either team again. So I actually don't think the Cubs are that great of a fit. Not on their high-end guys. Like if they're trying to trade a Madrigal or a Patrick Wisdom type, somebody like that or maybe a Drew Smiley, you know, then, yeah, the mayors might have interest in those guys, but that's not going to cost Miller or Wu or even Hancock. So I don't think the Cubs are honestly that good of a fit.

unless they're willing to drastically overpay. They're willing to drastically overpay. The Cubs are a phenomenal fit, but they're just not going to be, so I don't see it. All right. Next trade here, another anonymous one from our mailbag on the Google Doc.

Cole Young and Gabriel Gonzalez to the Marlins for Luis Arise. And they add with all the shortstop depth we have in the miners, seems like we can possibly trade one to acquire a bat. Colby, what do you think? Do we have shortstop depth? Or do we have a lot of guys who are

currently positioned at shortstop. Not the same thing. I think I think you know well Cole Young if he's going to impact the Mariners you know sooner rather than a later right probably playing second base second base but yeah Cole Emerson probably ends up being a third baseman probably uh Michael Oroyo's definitely going to end up being a first third baseman or first baseman yeah um tie Pete maybe but he's so far away who knows he could end up in center field like yeah.

guys who might be able to play the position. And Cole Young certainly can't. Solicine is still so far away. Yeah. Young is the guy who like, he's not going to be a spectacular shortstop, but he can play the position. So I think the Marlins have been looking for a shortstop, but the Marlins want shortstop help now,

not maybe at the end of this year, not probably the middle of next year, not, you know, 2026 when it's realistic to expect Cole Young to kind of establish himself as an everyday player. at the big league level. They want it now. So Young's not going to do anything for them.

I don't think. So unless the indication is that, you know, a rise will not sign an extension with Miami. We have no reason to expect that he won't. I don't see the point of them trading him for a complete unproven player because Miami hasn't even really declared whether they're in or out next year either. They've been shopping.

They're pitching all winter. Nothing's come of it. They haven't signed a free agent yet. So they're just kind of like exactly. where they were three or four months ago. So it doesn't seem like a team that wants to sell off pieces. So I don't think this is enough to get them to move on a rise. I don't think it's a bad offer.

I just don't think that I just personally don't think the Marlins would want to acquire a rise, unless they want just pure prospect package. And we know how unlikely that is based on Hollander's comments a few weeks ago. So, you know, I think the valuation for a player like a rise, yeah, I think it's fairly close. I think you're a player short, but it's not bad. It's not bad. I just don't think that the players that the type of players that the Marlins want are available for the Mariners to give them.

It just, they're not a good fit. So overall, I'd have to give this one like a 40. Like it's not bad, but it just, they're just not a good fit. I think you're missing at least another top 15ish prospect of the Mariners system. Maybe Locklear. And again, even then we don't really know. what the Marlins want. And, you know, but this is like the only way that the,

the Marys could probably feasibly because like, do they want Wu or Miller? I mean, we can talk about that. We can definitely have a conversation about that. I just, I don't know if they want one of those guys with all the pitching that they have. Yeah,

they got their own surplus and it's actually more legitimate than the Mariner's surplus. The closest I've come to putting together a rise to the Mariners scenario is something where the Mariners give. you know the the orioles Bryce Miller the Orioles give yeah you know what Jordan Westberger or whatever to Miami

Miami gives a rise to Seattle like a three team trade yeah I think we talked about that right what was it a couple of fanfix Fridays ago yeah right Cincinnati maybe it's you know Miller or McLean or whatever no LB and they go to Miami and blah blah so you can get creative with it but just head to head I don't like the Mariners and the Marlins are that good

partner trade fits honestly. No, I think that's one of those situations where you're going to need a third team to get that kind of deal across. Because the Marlins, to me, just seem like one of the very few teams that don't want your pitching. Yeah. As valuable as your pitching is. I just don't really see it because they're in a very similar spot to you in terms of their rotation. So, yeah, I'll go 40 on this.

I think it's a decent, you know, first offer to maybe get. the conversation going with Miami. But it would definitely, like, if it does get pushed across the finish line, I think it would look a lot different than that. So 40. All right, we got a few more trades of yours to go over in just a moment. But first, a reminder,

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Thank you again for making us your first listen here on Fan Fiction Friday. We were reading and grading some of your Mariners trade proposals. a DM from someone. I'm not sure if they wanted us to say who they were or not. So I left it anonymous.

Aggie Rosario, Padre's Enfielder for Polander Baroa. Colby. Awful. Is it Eggie or is it Iggy? It's Aggie. According to baseball reference, it's Aggie. Okay.

It's not E-Gy-Gy. No, no, no. I just wasn't sure if it was Iggy or eggy. I don't get it because now here's like the big elephant in the room. I've never seen Iggy play like live. So I can only look at his statistics and like scouting reports and all that stuff. So full disclosure, never seen the guy play live. However, when I read about him, when I look at his numbers, when I look at his style of play, I go, oh, that's Ryan Bliss.

I have Ryan Bliss. In fact, I have two Ryan Bliss's, maybe three. Like I have that guy. What I don't have, well, I mean, one is Dillemore. Yeah, I know. I know one is Dillemore and I know the other is Ryan Bliss. I don't know where the third one is. Sam Agherty.

Boom. Okay, sure. Yeah. Why not? All right. All right. So, like, what's the point? What I don't have is another Pallander Baroa.

Like, I don't have a guy who's major league ready who has high leverage stuff. That is cheap. Right. I don't have that other guy, at least as far as I know, maybe somebody, pops but right now I don't have that of guy Jackson co are sure I have I have already uh eggy and by the way my eggy's not even on the 40 man so my eggy yeah so I don't get it like unless there's something that's changed about his profile or maybe he's made a swing change or maybe there's and again I haven't seen him play so I can't answer that question

but to me this is just trading for Lada Rora for Ryan Bliss I have that guy like why why why I don't understand the thought process behind this because like I have Ryan Bliss I have eggy but it's a great name I mean it is a great I do but I would enjoy having a guy named eggy on the team yeah it just looks like Ryan Bliss to me they're both a little bit undersized they both have surprising raw power for their size but we're not sure if it'll translate to the big leagues you know they both have some swing and miss that you're kind of worried about like, Bliss, like, he might be a better prospect than Bliss. I'm not saying he's not, but how much better?

Perlonder Barroa better? No, no. So I don't, I don't get it, honestly. I don't, I don't see what the upside for the Mariners is. Yeah. Just based on statistics and scouting reports again. Like I said, never seen the guy. I think it's good valuation on both sides.

Yeah. But for the Mariners specifically, I just don't know if they really need Aggie Rosario. Would you rather trade Barrowa for Rosario or Shinton? Because this is really what it is, right? It's, I mean... Probably Rosario. Probably Rosario has some major league experience now. Yeah.

Broa has two outings. So I guess some. But essentially, this is a prospect for prospect trade. Yeah. So what prospect is going to give the mariner? What prospect is something the Mariners don't have? Like, if this guy hits, like, who's more valuable? Because they're at the same place in their career.

Although I think Aggie technically only has five years of club control left. you could check around that but I think on fan graphs he was over a year of service time somehow which completely negates the whole trail like not even interested at that point but again unless you think this guy can be a everyday like star like is he going to be is he not a star is he a two and a half one player like you feel really confident about that if you do fine whatever but me it's Rosario and Blisser you know name brand versus store brand cola like who cares they're the same they're both i don't yeah that's what i'm saying they're both undersized but so i don't get it you know um again ever seen the player so i could be totally off base

here but just based on the statistics based on the scouting reports i read they just seem very similar and i don't see what the point is for the mariner staff two of those guys instead of one of those guys and pro laudder borough yeah like you said i i i really think this team needs a a third high leverage guy. And I don't think that Justin Topa is that guy. I think he's more of a mid to high leverage guy. Whereas

Baroa, the ceiling there is clear cut high leverage guy. Like I can throw this guy in high pressure situations and eight, you know, in the eighth, ninth extra earnings. I think that's really important for the marries to have. And I don't really see a lot of other guys in this

organization that have a path to doing that. Whereas with, you know, someone like Ryan bliss, I see a path to him being essentially Eggy Rosario or what Eggy Rosario can be. So I'd just rather keep Baroa on the hopes that I can develop him into the guy that I need him to be, or I need someone to be. And I know that I have other guys that

do have really interesting stuff like CoR, like Vargas, etc. in the organization. But if you ask me right now, if I had to put money on it of all the guys on the organization who can be that third guy, I'd go with Barrella. Over Co-R, wow. Yeah, I do love me some Jackson Co-R. I know.

Yeah. That's your dude. Baroa. That's the guy you're planting the flag on this, this spring. I'm not using one of those spots on. Yes, you, yes, you are. You have to.

You have to. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. You have to. You've talked about him so much. He has to be a flag guy. So,

again, I think this is a solid trade and a vacuum, so I'll give it like a 50. I just don't see the point for Seattle. So yeah, I just don't think the valuation is. I just right now. I think the valuation is just about spot on. Yeah. I just don't think the players are fit for the, for Seattle. So 45.

Yeah. It's fine. All right. Last trade of the day comes from Colin. Jonathan Clauzee. Jonathan Classe, Aidan Smith, and Walter Ford, the vanilla missile. So the A's for Brent Rucker. And Colin says, go easy on me.

So this is my first ever mock trade. This is actually a pretty good first. And it's your last one, 20. Colin, you scream. I think this is pretty good, actually. I really don't want to trade Aidan Smith. You really like Aiden Smith. I don't know what changed for you.

But I really like Bruthrucker. Do you have some info on Aidan Smith that makes you high on him? just that he might be the second most tooled up guy in the mariner system. Damn. Yeah, behind only type heat. So, all right. Yeah, there's like legit. I think there's legit 25 home run popping that bad.

I think you can play center field. It's going to come down to the hit tool as it usually does for these, you know, 18 year olds. But yeah, call me crazy. But I think giving the Mariners really tooled up, you know, offensive players, like young offensive players with a ton of tools. It seems to be a good strategy based on their current strength that developing, you know, young talent. So I really like to see what the mayors can do with, with Aden Smith for at least a little while before I give them away. But yeah, I think this is pretty interesting. I think if you're Oakland, you have to strongly consider this.

You know, maybe they don't like Aiden Smith at all. But like, Ricker's a guy who's got four years of club control, maybe five. He's right on that borderline. Well, yeah, he's more of a first base, D.H. can occasionally play left field type of guy. He's almost 30 years old already. He's not going to be on your roster by the time you get to Vegas. And until you get to Vegas, you don't care what your major league product is.

That's very clear. So you get a guy, Aidan Smith, probably going to be ready to go by the time you're in Vegas. Class A, probably going to be ready to go, or at least get a shot by the time you're in Vegas. So Walter Ford, yeah, maybe. Like that's a lottery ticket at this stage. But yeah, I think this is, I think this is a solid. solid like bulk deal that has the potential to have huge dividends for the A's because again Aden Smith I think has the potential to be 25 homer above average defensive outfielder.

Yeah. I like this deal in a vacuum. I don't think it makes much sense for the mirrors though because there's a guy named Mitch Hanager in Seattle now that essentially fills the role that I would have had Brent Rucker Phil before the Hanager deal. unless you're trading in Thai france which seems to be the caveat to everything.

It is. Yeah. If you're trading in Thai France, print rickricks makes a lot of sense. Yeah, sure. So. But right now,

as things currently stand? Yeah. I mean, it always makes sense to trade for print rucker. So yeah, I actually think the valuation is pretty good. And again,

I like the player. Obviously, you probably know that if you've listened for a while. Don't love giving up Aiden Smith. But this is what it costs. You know, it's the cost of doing business. so yeah solid i'd say 50 like i could see it happening it's just maybe 45 because the fit with

rooker and this roster is not great i think it's i'll give a solid 50 70 no uh i'll give it a 50 i just don't think the the the mariner is uh i don't think this makes much sense for the marries yeah uh right now as things currently stand on the roster i just don't really know like where am i going to play rooker that's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marys podcast for Colby Paddode. I'm Tiding Anzollis.

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