Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - FanFic Friday: Edman, Bieber, Torres and More

Episode Date: January 8, 2022

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode read and grade your Mariners trade proposals, including ideas for Tommy Edman, Shane Bieber, Gleyber Torres and more.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked O...n Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:01:00 And on today's episode of Lockdown, Mariners it's fan fiction Friday you submitted your mariners trade ideas we'll be grading as many as we can on the 2080 scale 80 being the best possible idea imaginable while 20 is a absolute trash so we are going to be getting into these trades right now and you submitted a ton of them there are a lot to go through here both on Twitter and via email at lockdown mariners at gmail.com so pretty much this whole episode it's going to be a lightning round from us when it comes to reading out and grading these trades because we want to get to all of them so let's start with the ones that we got via email and cole here who submitted a few days ago a trade with the cardinals in which the mariners trade abraham
Starting point is 00:01:55 Toro and Justin Dunn to the Cardinals for Tommy Edmund. Colby, what are your thoughts on this deal? I don't quite understand why you would trade Toro for Edmund. Yeah, I mean, like Edmund's a good player. Don't get me wrong and certainly has a bigger track record than Toro. But Toro carries just as much offensive upside, if not more. So, yeah, to me, I just look at this and I say, is that like enough of an upgrade to i mean because basically the deal is it's toro for
Starting point is 00:02:34 for edmund i mean let's just call it what it is i i think i might rather take a shot on on torro um like i said edmund's better now but is he so much better that you know that there's similar players right and it really depends on what you want right now do you want the guy that has the longer track record, the one that's a little bit further along, maybe, but I think you're fine with Toro and then you don't have to spend, you know, done as well here to get a guy who's pretty, pretty similar, really, in terms of value. Yeah. Obviously, Edmund's done it a bit longer and has been pretty successful.
Starting point is 00:03:16 He was a two and a half one player by Fangraf standards this year, but I don't think the difference is as, is as big as it needs to be for me to make this deal. If I'm the Mariners, I'll give this one a 50. I give it like a 45. Edmund is, you're hoping he's Adam Frazier. You already have that guy. So I'd rather roll with Toro. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Thank you for the submission. Cole. Cole also wanted to know what we would give the Frazier trade, the Adam Fraser trade, the real Adam. Fraser trade. Do you want to give a grade on that one real quick? I'd give it probably like a 65 for the Mariners and like a 40 for the Padres because I mean, honestly, might even be less for the Padres because of what they had to give up for
Starting point is 00:04:07 Frazier than he wasn't all that good for them over the last two months of the season. Then they give them up for. They go to Capita Mercano to Corey Rozier and Ray Kerr. Yeah, I don't like that factors. That should factor into the trade because we're. only grading this specific trade. For the Mariners, I'll give it a 60. And for the Padres, I'll give it a 45, 50.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah, no, I think you should. I think you should include those things, though, because that's a pretty big L for A.J. Preller to take. It's a pretty big L. podcast. So go listen to Lockhart's. Well, I'm telling you why I'm giving you, I'm giving them that score. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Connor has a trade idea. It's a three-team deal. and it is a big, big one, wapping one. The Mariners, wow. All right, you ready for this? So this is a three-team deal with the Mariners, Reds, and Mets. And once the Mariners get Jesse Winker, Sunny Gray,
Starting point is 00:05:06 Mike Moustakis, and Jeff McNeil, where the Reds get Noelvi Marte, Kyle Lewis, Brandon Williamson, Levi Stout, and Ronnie Maricio. And the Mets get Luis Castillo and Eric Swanson. Something feels like unbalanced about. this. I mean, you look at like the Mariners,
Starting point is 00:05:25 they give up Marte, Lewis, Williamson, and Stout for Winker, Gray, Mustakis, McNeil. I mean, probably. It's not a bad haul. They do get rid of for the Reds. They do get rid of Mustakis' contract and Sunny Gray, who they want to move anyways, but
Starting point is 00:05:41 now they have to move Jesse Winker, but, I mean, they would get Maricio out of the deal, who's a very nice prospect. But for me, the Mets, if you're the Mets, why wouldn't you just go to the Red and say, look, this is a little too complicated. We don't want to move, Mauricio.
Starting point is 00:06:00 We'll just give you McNeil for Gray. McNeil says three years of club control. I mean, the breads can turn around and flip him than to Seattle. The deal is unnecessarily big for me. I don't think the valuation is, like, grossly far off. But it just, it's bigger than it needs to be because these three teams could line up nicely, where Seattle gets McNeil and the reds get sunny gray, even though the Mariners want sunny gray.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So, yeah, it just gets kind of a little too messy for me, but the valuation's not too far off. So I think I'll give it like a 50. It's pretty good, definitely creative. I'll give it 55. I'll give it a 50. It's kind of messy. Like it's just way too big.
Starting point is 00:06:47 There's just a lot going on. And something feels unbalanced about it. but I'll give it a 50. It's creative. So let's go to Daniel here. Wow. Okay. Mariners send Jared Kelnick and Brandon Williamson to the White Sox for Luis Robert. Daniel hates Jared Kellick.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Yeah, he's submitted a few Kellnick trades, right? Yeah. Robert, the White Sox aren't going to trade Robert. and why would they for Kellnick who I mean you're kind of hoping becomes Louise Robert in a way and also Williamson you know and don't want to discredit Brandon Williamson who's who's one of the I mean criminally underrated prospects in the entire game right now um yeah but the white socks are better than the Mariners there are a bigger world series contender than the Mariners are right now so why would they take a step back yeah prospects it just it doesn't make sense from their standpoint Um, if Robert was, I don't know, 20, like 27 and he had three years left to club control.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Uh, then yeah, you probably consider something like this, uh, because he's a very good player with a lot of upside and a lot of, you know, a really good defensive center fielder and all that stuff. So you definitely feels the need for the Mariners. He's just not available. Uh, the White Sox are not going to. Not for that. No. I mean, it, I just, I don't think there's anything. could give the white socks that would force them to to listen on the louise robert type of
Starting point is 00:08:25 trade so um so creativity is pretty high because we hadn't heard robert name robert's name for for well the entire off season but um it just it doesn't make sense for the white socks because they're not rebuilding so i'll give it a 40 i'll give it a 30 sorry um let's do one twitter uh proposal and then we We'll do our little ad read and come back and grade some more trades. Let's start with Nat Ling at Nat Ling 34. Glaber Torres, Yankees shortstop second baseman for Brandon Williamson. If I'm the Mariners, I'm not doing this, frankly. No.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah, I, I, Torres, like, I like the idea of trying to get Torres and seeing if maybe you can go for the upside play there. but for Williamson, for how Torres has played over the last couple years, that's going to be no Bueno for me. That's just a little too rich for my blood. So I'm going to give this one a 40. Yeah, I like the idea of Glaber Torres at third base,
Starting point is 00:09:41 even though he hasn't played much there. But yeah, his last two years have been atrocious. and Williamson is too good to give up for a guy who has that many question marks. Honestly, if you're willing to do that for Glaber Torres, just go trade the bag of peanuts it's going to take to get D.D. Gregorius and get pretty much the same production and keep Williamson. So I'll give it a 45, though, because I do think it's, it's, again, Torres not a guy we've talked a lot about. And I do think he would be available in the right deal.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And Williamson isn't so far off. It's just not something I think the Mariners would do. All right. So more trades coming on the way. But real quick, a reminder. This episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by Bilt Bar. It's the New Year. So that means New Year's resolutions. And if yours is about getting fit or eating healthier, make sure you include Bilt Bar in your plan. Bill Bars the protein bar that tastes like a candy bar, maybe even better than a candy bar. You want to eat healthy, but it just gets so boring by like week three, you might be thinking, this is just not worth it. Where is the chocolate? Well, Bilt bars are covered in 100% real chocolate, and most bell bars even contain 130 calories, 4 grams of sugar, 4 net carbs, and 17 grams of protein. Meanwhile, compare that to a candy bar, which usually has around 240 calories, 30 grams of sugar, and dozens of net carbs. Now, here's an idea for the new year.
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Starting point is 00:11:43 at Bilt.com. You're listening to Lockdown Mariners, Thank you again for making us your first listen of the day, just like you do here every day. We greatly appreciate the support. Let's get into more of these trades that you submitted, and we got a lot to cover the rest of the way. So we're going to continue a little lightning round strategy with this, if you will.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Let's go to Derek Brown at Derek underscore Brown 7, who has a Brian Reynolds trade. this is a target that's been popular for for a lot of these proposals over the last few weeks uh pirates outfielder bryan reynolds to the mariners for prospects no lvy marty and then also kyle lewis is involved in this deal Connor phillips is involved in this deal and isaiah campbell is in this deal uh that to me is not going to get it done for the pirates um because really like marty and phillips are probably the two biggest pieces lewis carries a lot of uncertainty right now with the injury the fact that jerry depoto his own gm has outright said that
Starting point is 00:12:50 they don't know where he is going to be able to play this year um that that plays a role and uh and probably you know scaring some teams off on that front so i don't think the pirates they're uh going to be jumping for joy at the steel especially when reportedly they wanted julio rodriguez um no levi martay great prospect top 10 top 15 in baseball but yeah um needs at least a secondary piece that's kind of in that Marte range and probably more I don't know but yeah the simply put this isn't going to get it done for Reynolds it's probably what Reynolds is worth though if we're being honest it's it's probably about what the pirates should be looking for but they don't sound like they want to be realistic and why would they Reynolds has four years left
Starting point is 00:13:39 to club control they don't need to move them right now and he's young enough that he fits into there rebuild if they have a plan for that at all. So yeah, they should be shooting for the moon here. I think it's a fair evaluation of what Reynolds is worth. Maybe a little bit better than Phillips as a secondary piece. But other than that, I think it's about what the pirates should expect in terms of what offers they should get. But I don't think the pirates are going to do it because they're looking to somebody to
Starting point is 00:14:07 overpay. So I think I'd still give it a 50 though. It's pretty good. I'll give it a 45 All right So Luke Snitzler L at L
Starting point is 00:14:22 Snistler on Twitter The Merrinerson Wow Okay Jared Kellnick Noel V Marte and Emerson Hancock to the
Starting point is 00:14:31 Guardians for Shane Bieber Um Look I like Shane Bieber a lot One of the best pitchers in baseball When he's healthy But three of like your top five assets six assets, seven assets, whatever. Depending on how you feel about Hancock.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, no, that's too rich for really any player, if we're being honest, especially a, you know, a starting pitcher who's coming off of a pretty significant injury and time missed. Just, yeah, that's way too much for the mirrors. Not to mention he had some struggles after they banned the sticky stuff. Spinner rates went way down. It's a legitimate concern.
Starting point is 00:15:21 We don't know if that's related to that or the injury, but it did coincide pretty nicely. So you at least have to ask the question. I said, Beaver is a great pitcher. I wouldn't do that about the Mariners. I think, you know, it's kind of robbing Peter to pay Paul. So you have Robbie Ray's your number one Just focus on the Sunny Grays
Starting point is 00:15:44 Frankie Montas You know Coal Irvin like that type of guy And you know maybe in July Bieber makes sense But the Indian I'm sorry did you just rope Cole Irvin Into the same category as Frankie Montas
Starting point is 00:15:57 And Sunny Gray Mariner legend Can not call Irvin I could not let you get away with that Of course I did Mariner legend Cole Irvin But you know Also the Guardians
Starting point is 00:16:09 have shown no real interest in rebuilding as of yet. So, I mean, it doesn't sound like they're shopping Bieber. It doesn't sound like they're shopping Ramirez. So they're probably thinking they can compete this year. So, yeah, I just, to me, it's, it's, I don't think the, I don't think Cleveland does it. And I don't think the Mariners would either. But it's definitely, you know, thought-provoking. I mean, Cleveland would be honestly kind of stupid not to do this.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Probably, but Cleveland's kind of stupid. So, I mean. Yeah. I'll give it a 35, 40, somewhere in that range. I'm going to give it a 30. Ouch. Yeah, sorry. It's way too much.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's just way too expensive for the Mariners. It's just not something that they should do because they're not one player away. They're not one pitcher away. And that's selling off three of your, you know, most valuable assets and one deal for one guy who has some injury concerns now. And some performance issues since the, you know, since the 60 stuff like you said as well so i just yeah it's a lot um all right so oblivion at zero underscore collins underscore one um Kyle lewis Levi stout and sam carlson question mark he says for cedric mullins maybe another almost MLB ready pitching prospect instead of sam carlson
Starting point is 00:17:33 he adds um yeah no the the the the Orioles aren't going to do this. The Orioles are saying. The Orioles are going to ask you for Julio, like straight up. And you're going to say no, and that's going to be the end of the conversations. I don't believe that Mollins is actually available. I think the Orioles are saying they'll listen, but I think they want somebody to come to them and say, hey, do you want Julio Rodriguez?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, someone in that range. Yeah. So, no. It's, that's just not going to get it done. I like Cedric Mollins, but he's far from a sure thing. And to expect him to repeat what he did last year, probably asking too much. So there's a lot of risk for Seattle. But at that price, Seattle should do it in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And other teams would beat it. So I'm going to give that one like a 35, 40. I don't know if we have many Cedric Mollins trade ideas, but I'll give that one. I'll give that one a 40. It's just Seattle's going to have to pay up even more. And even if they avoid giving up Julio, they're going to have to give up, you know, Hancock Kirby
Starting point is 00:18:40 Brash no LV somebody like that So yeah your your leading piece has to be better than Kyle Lewis Yeah I'm gonna give this one a 30 Honestly You're mean It's a it's just it's not gonna get it done Mullins I mean the Orioles look
Starting point is 00:18:57 The Orioles don't have many Valuable majorly assets right now And they are going to hold on for dear life To the to the few that they do have that actually have like legitimate trade value right now. And Mullins is coming off of a career year. He's still young. He's still got more than a year left of club control.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I just, I think they're going to ask for the moon. I think they're going to ask for pretty much what the pirates are asking for Brian Reynolds as ridiculous as that might sound. And, yeah, that's just that's just not really in the ballpark in terms of what they're going to ask for. so sorry. All right. Mike T. at M6374.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Robert Hassel and Will Myers from the Padres for Drew Steckin Rider, Zach the Loach, Jake Frailey. Oh, that's it. So Drew Steckin Rider, Zach the Loach and Jake Frailey to the Padres for Robert Hassel and Will Myers is a full salary,
Starting point is 00:20:00 by the way. I like I think think that the Padres want to get rid of Myers's contract, I don't think they're desperate enough to do it to attach hassle to him for just Steck and Rite and Deloge and Freely. Yeah. Freely probably doesn't even make their opening day roster. So not that it's a bad thing to have depth and AAA, but doesn't do much along with the trade.
Starting point is 00:20:30 they would probably honestly rather eat more of Myers' salary and get a better return than this. I think Steck and Rider would make a lot of sense for them. It was just Myers for Steckinrider straight up. They would do it in a heartbeat. And I do think Will Myers is a guy
Starting point is 00:20:47 who does make some sense for Seattle, despite people seemingly thinking he's a terrible player for some reason. I still don't get that. But yeah, I just think it's going to be more than this. And honestly, if you're Seattle, you don't really need Robert Hassel.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I mean, like, you want to talk like Adrian Morrigan, then fine. Like, we can have that talk. But Hassel doesn't really do much for Seattle. So when you look at it from a 2022 standpoint, it's literally Myers for Steckenrider, Deloche, and Frey. You're probably going to get more value out of Steck and Rider and Freely this year than you will, Will Myers. If Myers could play a competent center field,
Starting point is 00:21:29 this would be a completely different story, but he can't. So I'll give this one, though. It's definitely creative. So I'll give this one a 50. I think you can make this work. You just have to rework a few things here, Mike. Mike, yeah, I, I think hassle needs to be out of the steel. I don't think the Padres would be that desperate at all to get rid of Myers' this deal.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Really, yeah, I think it's just you got to have them taking on some of that. some of that contract and um you know and maybe a swap for second rider straight up would would make some sense um but yeah as it's currently constructed with hassle and all the salary going to the mariners etc and the return to the padre is not being great um i'm going to give this one like a 45 so uh let's tell you about betonline. a g real quick and then we'll get into some more trade ideas bet online would like to wish you a happy new betting year as we continue our March to the playoffs and beyond. Bet Online remains the number one spot for all the best sports wagering action for 2022. New year and a new updated desktop of mobile website.
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Starting point is 00:23:21 Starting with Daisy and the dingo at Daisy's dingoes. I like this idea. Matt Brash for Twins' Prospect Second Baseman slash third baseman Jose Miranda I actually really like this idea Um You guys heard of your first
Starting point is 00:23:39 Ty hates Matt Brash Yep Clearly clearly that's what we've taken from that Noted Matt Brash hater Ty No it's interesting because Miranda is probably the most underrated prospect in baseball If we're being honest
Starting point is 00:23:55 dude hit like 344 with a 400 on base and a 570 slugging this year in the miners 30 home runs he doesn't strike out doesn't walk a ton but it's not like he won't take some walks I want he's only 23 he's I wonder if you're trading for Thai France which is fine and I mean literally Thai France a guy who can only play first base Miranda plays second he plays in third but he's not very good at either spot kind of like Thai France you're not going to be wrong obviously you're happy if you get Thai Francis multiple Thai France France France's
Starting point is 00:24:37 Thai France whatever the plural Thai France is and Miranda's been pretty good you know but this was really the only year where he's been like an exceptional and like huge prospect so is it possible that he just popped out of nowhere at the age of 23? Yeah, sure, definitely. To trade Matt Brash for it, I'd rather have the pitcher than a corner out, corner infielder, more than likely, who's probably best suited for first. But I do like it.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It's definitely creative. And it's one of those deals we could spend like hours talking about. So I'll give it a 55. Yeah, I'm going to give this one a 58. I think it's a really interesting deal. ultimately I probably keep Brash if I'm the Mariners But yeah it's a really interesting idea
Starting point is 00:25:28 Prospect swap I like those And then this is one that certainly makes some sense Because Miranda could potentially fill a hole at third base And it seems like he's probably ready for the for the challenge Of Major League Baseball are pretty close to it After the year that he just had So yeah I really like that proposal
Starting point is 00:25:49 Good job Daisy so let's let's move on here um oh wow so we actually have another beber trade proposal man you guys are really focused on the guardians uh this week and wow this is a biggie uh c l henson at c l red pill on twitter jose ramirez and shame beber for noel v martay justin don't kyle lewis abraham Toro, Emerson Hancock, and Matt Brash. You're going to need Julio Rodriguez in the Steel or Jared Kalick or whatever. This is just like, even though that there is a lot being given up from the Mariners side of things, there is not, look, and I love Noel V. Marte.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I think he's a fantastic prospect. Even then you need to be going a lot higher if you're trying to trade for a Sy Young candidate and an American League MVP candidate in one swing. I don't think that there's anything really if we're if we're being honest I don't think there's anything the Mariners could give up where they're going to get both Bieber and Ramirez in the same deal and again it kind of goes back to the to the conversation that we had about Bieber just a second ago that you know you're not one or two guys away because like even if you do get Ramirez and Bieber while those guys are
Starting point is 00:27:12 fantastic players and significantly boosts your roster and your chances, you're still not done. And now you've given up a ton of capital in the process. So I just, yeah, there's a lot going on here. For me, this deal, while, you know, I appreciate the sentiment. Probably I feel like I got to go like a 40 or 42 here. It's definitely quantity over quality. and that's not to say Marte and Hancock and Brash aren't really good prospects,
Starting point is 00:27:50 but Dunn is a reliever at best. It's how you have to seem right now. Lewis, you can't count on. Toro is a big question mark. So to me, if I'm Cleveland, I'm going to go, why are you willing to go up those three? Just give me Julio. Give me Julio and give me, you know, Brash,
Starting point is 00:28:06 and let's just do that. And, you know, I just, I don't see Cleveland doing this. And again, Cleveland is a really tough team to gauge because, you know, they don't trade guys when they should. they trade them at the worst time, which means that Ramirez probably gets traded next winter. Plus, I do wonder,
Starting point is 00:28:25 you know, how can big deals like this come together in what is probably going to be a very short and time period to get stuff done before spring training starts? I don't know how big deals like this can come together that quickly, but overall, I'll give it a 45. At least it wasn't,
Starting point is 00:28:39 you know, Ramirez and Bieber for like Lewis, Toro and, and, and, and, and, and stout,
Starting point is 00:28:44 like, there's some realism about how, how good about how good the two pieces the Mariners would be getting are. So I'll give it a 45. All right. So we, we're going to go super, super lightning round now. All right. I just want the grade. And then we're, because we still got like seven or eight trades to do. I don't want to at least try to get to most of them here. So, uh, you ready, Colie? Yep. All right. Daisy and the dingo at Daisy's dingos. Mariner's trade. Emerson, Hancock, and Connor Phillips to the raise for Josh Lowe.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Great. 42. Phillips is only a deal. Yep. 40. At Tanner v. 202. The Mariners trade, Emerson, Hancock, Zach the Loach, Levi Stout, or
Starting point is 00:29:42 Matt Brash, and Kaden Polkovich for Ramon Luriano and Frankie Montes. I'm going to go 40 because it's just it feels like a lot. Especially if it's brash instead of stout. Yeah, because you hate leave my stout.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I'll go 45. Loryano's overrated. Okay. Aiden at SFNE 58. Mariners acquire are Estee's Aquino from the Reds for Robert Perez and Diasan Arias. 45.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Not super excited about Aquino. But you're not really giving up a lot either. Yeah. It's 50 because at that price, he's basically free. But Aquino is not a mariner at all. Strikes out way too much. So yeah, if you want triple A depth, there you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Don't know if you saw this last week. All right. This is Tyler Cartwright. at tie cart 50 Mariners get Kane Chapman and Montes Brewers get Matt Olson
Starting point is 00:30:59 A's get Zach Deloach Connor Phillips Levi Stout Abraham Toro Garrett Mitchell and Ethan small There's a lot going on here I don't know You got a grade for this one
Starting point is 00:31:16 Aaroners get Lorenzo Kane Matt Chapman and Frankie Montes out of that out of this and they give up Zach DeLoch, Connor Phillips, Levi Stout, and Abraham Toro.
Starting point is 00:31:32 And possibly Williamson. I think the Mariners are giving up too much for what they're getting. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah. It's a lot. I'll give this. Yeah. They don't do. Yeah. Yeah. Plus you're taking on Kane's contract.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And Chapman. That's like $23 million in South. Actually, 30 million. dollars in salary you're taking on right yeah yeah it's it's too much um especially if williamson is in there i'll give this one of 38 40 40 i'll give it a 42 without williamson of 40 with williamson all right um all right let's try to do a couple more of these uh ones from red elves and then we're going to hop off here uh meritors receive matt olson match
Starting point is 00:32:30 Chapman and Sean Maniah from the A's for Noel V. Marte, Kyle Lewis, Isaiah Campbell and Wyatt Mills, 25. Not enough on the back end. Yeah. And also Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah. Exactly. All right. Mariners get Cedric Mullins from the Orioles for Jake Fraley, Noel V. Marte, and Joe Rizzo. Sorry, 20. Freilly and Rizzo are worthless.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah. So 35. At least you had no LV in there. Yeah. Mariners get Brian Reynolds for George Kirby, Kyle Lewis, and Harry Ford. Valuation, not far off. It's a lot, though, for the Mariners. I wouldn't do it if I were the Mariners.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Just because it's Harry Ford's in there, of course. That is irrelevant. Also, George Kirby. like no they're not trading two of those guys for Reynolds talk to me in July when they're you know 15 games over 500 and they're in first place by three games and Reynolds is on pace for another six win season then we could talk about a deal like that right now
Starting point is 00:33:45 it's just it's too much for a team that's you know still probably best classified as a wild card contender yeah um yeah uh it's uh it's probably going to be 38 for me okay all right
Starting point is 00:34:11 so that's uh I think that's all of them so we did it kind of sorry it's just kind of all over the place and you know we weren't able to take our time with quite a few of these but there was a lot you guys submitted a lot and at least we're able to
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