Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - FanFic Friday: Gallo, Bachman, Winker, Gore and More

Episode Date: December 24, 2021

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode read and grade your Mariners trade proposals, including ideas for Joey Gallo, Sam Bachman, Jesse Winker, MacKenzie Gore and more.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Those will be coming on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Meanwhile, we'll be dropping episodes of Lockdown Mariners every Monday, Wednesday, and of course, Friday, which is today. And on today's episode of Lockdown Mariners, it's fan fiction Friday. You submitted your Mariners trade ideas to us on Twitter and via email at Lockdown Mariners at gmail.com. We're going to read and grade as many as we can on the 20 to 80 grading scale. 80 being the best, 20 being not so great.

And if this is your first time joining us, welcome to the show. If you like what you hear, give us a follow or subscribe wherever you listen to this. We'd greatly appreciate it. So, Colby, you ready to get into these trades? Yes, sir. All right, let's do it. Let's start with a couple trades that we got via email. starting with Davis, who has a three-team trade,

which ends up getting the Mariners, Brian Reynolds. The Yankees are also involved in this deal. Of course, the Pirates. The Yankees in this deal get, well, the Mariners straight up just get Brian Reynolds from the pirates. The Yankees get David Bednar, Paul Seawald, and Luis Therens, while the pirates get Matt Brash, Kyle Lewis, Oswald Paraza. So for me, it's a lot for the Mariners to give up three potential, actually four potential contributors to the 2022 roster.

And I still don't think that the pirates would do this just to get Brash Lewis and Paraza for Reynolds. I just don't see how that works for the pirates. I don't see the Mariners giving up four 2022 contributors for Brian Reynolds when, especially when that valuation. itself is not going to get it done from the pirate's perspective either. Yeah, it just, it really feels like, like, Paraz is a really good prospect and he's a really fun guy to get. But if he's the best you can do, you know, it's probably, it's, it's probably not a deal that you're going to take for four years of a, you know, six-win player.

especially when we hear they're asking for Julio. So to me, it just doesn't quite match up for anybody. I'm not even sure if the Yankees would trade Parraza, even though, I mean, I'm sure they like Terenz and C-Wald would be very helpful and all that. But it's, Parasa might be their starting shortstop this year. True, true, true. He's, he's major league ready. He's ready for an opportunity.

And, you know, he's 21. the Yankees want relief help, they can just go buy it. They don't need to give up trade assets while helping one of their, you know, AL, you know, another AL contender, let's say, get, you know, significantly better in the outfield and in the lineup. But yeah, like you said, Seattle, that's a lot of, you know, 2022 help you're giving up. So, you know, what's going to be worth more? are those four guys in 2022 or Brian Reynolds. I mean, it's kind of tough to say, right?

Like, it could go either way. And now you have to go out and you have to bill. You have to spend more money to go fix your bullpen. It's just, it's a lot to give up. And I just, I don't think it works for any of the three teams. I think it's pretty creative. It's one of the better three team deals we've seen. But I just don't think there's quite enough there to really entice any of the three teams, to be honest.

Yeah. It just, I don't really think that it works for all three sides. And, you know, again, three team deals are hard to put together. So, you know, I applaud you for for the effort at least. But yeah, I just, I don't think from the marriage perspective, it's, it's just a lot to give up. And again, it's not going to be what really pirates are going to want to get out of it. So, yeah, I'm going to give this one. you know, I applaud the creativity.

And so that's going to keep it from being like a pretty low score. I'm going to give it like a 40. Oh, well, let me give it a 50. Okay. I think it's close enough that you could like use it as kind of like a jumping off point. But I just, I don't, again, I don't, I don't see any of the three teams being all that interested in that deal as it, as it was presented, presented to us. all right well thank you for the proposal davis let's move on to sean who says hey guys listen to the show in my car every morning hello sean and hello shan's car my trade proposal is the mariners get max stassie and sam bachman from the angels for cal raleigh and adam macko i don't think this is enough for the angels honestly because bachman first round pick this past season and stassie's a pretty good catcher obviously i don't think this is enough for the angels honestly because bachman first round pick this past season and stacy's a pretty good catcher obviously Obviously, Raleigh and Maco, pretty darn good prospects who, especially, you know, Maco as of late, we've been really praising lately on the show.

But, yeah, I don't think this one is going to get it done for the angels. No, the angels aren't rebuilding. They kind of can't. They put themselves in that situation where they have to go for it. So, you know, taking what is surely going to be considered a downgrade at the catcher position in 2022, while also in theory downgrading the prospect on the prospect side of things. It just doesn't make a lot of sense for them. So the angels are absolutely going to look to compete this year.

You know, they've already signed or brought back Rizzoa Iglesias. They signed Noah Cindergarde. Like they're looking at bats. They're going to try to win whether they should or shouldn't. Completely different story. But they're not going to give up major league assets. and they're probably their best prospect. You know, for a guy who, honestly,

you're kind of hoping turns into Max Stasi in a year or two. So, yeah, it's not, it's not the right time. It's not the right time for the Angels to make this type of trade. If it was just Raleigh for Stassie, like in July, that would also wouldn't make much sense because Stassie is a free agent after this year. So it's a lot for the Mariners to give up for one year of Stacey. on top of it. So, like I said, pretty, pretty creative.

We hadn't heard these names before. So I'll give it a 42. Yeah, I'll give it a 42 as well. Why not? I'll join you. Yeah, I like the idea. Just like really like the names, right? Like, I'm a big Sam Bachman guy.

So that's a lot of fun. I just, yeah, I'm not a, I don't know, that would work for for anaheim whatsoever because again you made a great point there you're basically downgrading a catcher and downgrading the prospect while i love adam macko he's a fantastic prospect there's a clear divide between him and sam bachman still um so yeah and uh while they're getting a controllable catcher in raleigh like you said again it's about winning for this team for anaheim this year and um they have a better chance to do that with max dacques than than Cal Raleigh.

Yeah, I mean, Stassie's a guy to look out for at the deadline if the Angels fall out of it, because he would make a lot of sense for a team like Seattle. But as things stand right now, it doesn't make sense for the Angels to trade Stassie for non-major league help. Well, thank you for the trade proposal submission there. Sean, really appreciate it. Hope you're enjoying listening to us on your carb right today, if you are. so let's uh let's do one of these trades from twitter and then uh we'll take a quick uh do a quick ad read

and then uh do some more trades let's uh let's go here to eli sellers at eli sellers 24 who has a trade proposal uh trade idea with the um cincinnati reds and the mariners sunny gray and jessie winker for Brandon Williamson, Levi Stout, Edwin O'Royle, and Zach the Loach. This is, I mean, it's quite a bit of bulk from the Mariners. All four of these guys are really fun prospects. Jesse Winker is fantastic, though. And, you know, I think, like, I think you could get Sunny Gray for Levi Stout and something. But, yeah, I didn't winker to this.

Well, we know that the Reds apparently really love Williamson. We know that they're interested in Stout as well. Royo and Deloge are really, really strong prospects as well. I just, Winker has been so good lately. I just don't know if this would get it done. I think you'd need to go a bit higher than Brandon Williamson there on the prospect return as in terms of the leader of that package, the headliner of that package, rather. Um, right.

Yeah. I think you need to give up someone in your top five for Jesse Wicker. Yeah. Um, he's got two years left of club control. So, um, it's, it's not that he's absurdly expensive, which we know the reds are trying to cut salary. Um, he's probably going to make, you know, seven, eight million bucks this year. So it's not that he is so expensive that the, that the, that the reds are just going to look

to get rid of him. Um, so. I mean, just listen to these. numbers from Jesse Wanker real quick this year. 110 games played, 485 played appearances. He slashed 305-394-5-556 with a WRC plus of 148. It was worth 3.2F were, obviously not a great defender, but he only struck out 15 and a half percent of the time and walked 10.9% of the time this year.

The dude absolutely is a fantastic hitter. He's honestly probably the most underrated hitter in a little baseball world. Probably. Yeah, and so like he, like I said, he's only going to make, he's projected only make about $7 million in arbitration this year. It feels like to get Winker, you're going to have to part with Noelvie or Emerson Hancock on top of, you know, probably Stout and maybe even Deloach. Like I think those three for those two probably get you in the ballpark. And even then they're probably going to ask for a pretty good fourth piece like, I don't know, maybe Sam Carlson or maybe even somebody like, you know, Isaiah, Isaiah Campbell. I think they're going to be pretty demanding for that fourth piece because, again, they don't have to trade.

Well, they don't have to trade either of these guys. They each have two years of club control left. But they probably should. But you're not trading Winker as like Sunny Gray has to. to be treated more as a throw-in than Jesse Winker a little bit. But overall, like I said, it's very interesting. So I'm going to give it a 50. I think it's solid enough.

I'm going to give it a 55, actually. No, there you go. Yeah. Like, I think this is one of our better ones. It's a, it's a fun idea. I, even though that I think it would take more to get Winker, I don't know. Maybe the Reds would like this deal. I don't know.

The Reds kind of made some. silly decisions as late. So who knows? I mean, to me, it's Winker is like, that's your shoot the moon move. That's the all-end move. But hey, you know what? Like you said, we know they're talking to the Reds about Sunny Gray.

We know they've been interested in Louise Castillo. So could they have asked about Jesse Winker? Yeah, they probably have. Are the Reds willing to move him? That's probably the biggest stumbling block I see in any obvious, you know, any trade. involving Winker and Gray. No. All right.

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Starting with Alex Ludbetter 15 at Alex Ledder 15 on Twitter, who has a trade idea with the Detroit Tigers where the Mariners send Jake Frailey and Sam Carlson to the Tigers for Robbie Grossman who has just a year left of club control but is a pretty underrated player

I don't think this is enough to get it done especially with where the Tigers are right now seems like they're ready to compete for a playoff spot at least just sign Hobby Baez just sign Eduardo Rodriguez just traded for Tucker Barnhart you know they could have traded Robbie Grossman at the deadline this year chose not to they extended jonathan's scope instead of trading him so i don't think that the uh the tigers would be interested in trading grossman in general let alone for this package because

like you you guys know how we feel about jake fraley sam carlson still hasn't made it out low a after coming back from his injury um looked fairly good at times this year but overall yeah i i don't know if that's going to uh move the needle for the for the tigers and the steel no i i think honestly if you're looking um like on the surface it makes sense you know fraley's the grossman replacement fraily was you know posted pretty good numbers last year um not all that dissimilar from robbie grossman uh just pure number wise but again fraley's never done it over a full season he really struggled for long stretches particularly when he came out of covid um is frayley going to run the ridiculous

walk rate he was for the first half of the season. I mean, he's not going to walk 17% of the time. Right. So, yeah. Grossman last year, by the way, 156 games played, 671 played appearances, 23 home runs, 239, 357, 415 with a 114 WRC plus, and it was almost worth 3F4 last year. Obviously, you know, kind of like Winkered, not a great defender,

but dude hits. And he walked 14.5% of the time. Right. Fraley posted a 352 on base and a 109 WRC plus. So again, the ratio stats are pretty close. And a far more small sample size to be fair. About half a season. So nine home runs, 10 stolen bases. Like there are some interesting things about Jake Frey.

Defense was not what we had hoped. It was going to be when the Mariners acquired him. Like I said, there's still some interesting things about Jake. Freely's profile, but the tigers are trying to win. They're going to want to risk Jake Fraley. Now, if you want Robbie Grossman, you want a one for one swap? How about something like Drew Steckenrider for Robbie Grossman? Right.

That might work. Maybe. Yeah. But, yeah, I'll give this one a 45. It just, it doesn't make sense from the tiger's standpoint. But Grossman would be a great, you know, addition to the Mariners lineup. He'd be a really good fit in Seattle. Agreed.

Agreed. I'll go with a 40. Okay. Thank you for the trade proposal. Alex, greatly appreciate it. Let's move on to Curtis Christensen at courtesy baseball. Would you guys try to fix Padres' left-handed pitching prospect,

McKenzie Gore, for Harry Ford or Emerson Hancock? So one or the other. Hmm. I think you have to. very forward i think you have to eliminate handcock because if the podres are going to try and fix quote unquote one high profile top

prospect you know top 10 pick they're probably going to stick with the guy that they know better which is gore so for me yeah the only possibility is for for gore and i'm not doing that yeah neither are my that's a good point though on

on hancock um yeah uh i don't think that the podger would do Hancock and I'm not doing Ford from the Mariners so I mean like let me ask you this Colby what's like kind of the

the line that you draw in the Mariners farm system for like a one one for one swap that's kind of realistic with the Padres for McKenzie Gore if there is one to you I don't see one that fits both sides yeah

like I'd probably rather take a chance on getting value out of Matt Brash this year, honestly, than McKinsey Gore. Yeah. And I doubt they're going to trade McKinsey Gore for, you know, Brandon Williamson.

Cow, like Cowell Raleigh. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't really see when that fits for McKenzie Gore. Uh, fun project. And I still,

I still believe, uh, that there's a really good starter there. Um, but yeah, there are legitimate concerns now. They're starting to creep in. So,

like me personally would I trade Hancock for Gore? Probably not for the same reasons I don't think San Diego would. Just stick with the guy you have. If you can get Gore for cheap, do it. Like if they're like, hey, we'll take, you know, we'll take Edwin and Royo. Okay, fine, sure. Here you go.

Right, right. But they're just not going to do that. So I like the idea. I just don't think they match up that well in terms of prospect swaps. Yeah. Yeah. Since this wasn't really a specific

trade. This was more just of an idea. Should we give this a grade? I don't even know how to grade this. I'll give the idea like a 55. It's pretty interesting. I just don't see the match. If Gore is coming over with say, I don't know, you Darvish so that you

eat some of that salary or Will Myers, then I think that makes a lot of sense. I would like to see Gore. You know, the Mariners get their hands on McKinsey Gore, but I just don't see it happening in a prospect swap. I can't find one that makes a lot of sense.

so yeah i'll agree with you on the idea i i think it's probably like a 50 to a 55 just in terms of the idea it's definitely a good conversation starter absolutely all right cool thank you uh curtis we'll go over the final few trades that we have here on twitter in just a moment but real quick a reminder of this episode of lockdown merriters is brought to you by betonline dot a g bet online has you covered all season long with more props odds and lines than ever before as football continues the march to the play playoffs. Bet Online remains your number one spot for all the sports action this season. Head to our new updated desktop or mobile website to sign up today and receive your 50% welcome bonus on

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it I appreciate it. He has the the Mariners sending Kevin Padlo to the Cubs for prospects. Ronier-Cintero, who's a catcher, and right-handed pitcher Richard Gallardo, Cantaro played in the Complex League. This year, Guyardo is at A-ball. Fine. Like if the Mariners were able to trade Kevin Padlo for anything, cool. cool.

Yeah, I think like the most I could give the steel, though, is like a 50 because like I, it's kind of inconsequential in the end. But, uh, yeah, 50. Colby. I don't know anything about those two guys, but I know the Cubs are not going to trade them for Kevin Padlow. So 30. I don't, I don't.

I know. Those guys can be 28 year olds in low A ball. And I'd still be like, yeah. probably carries a little more upside than Kevin Padlow does. So, uh, yeah, I, I would be pretty shot. Oh, do to you. Nothing. He just, he's not interesting as a prospect, really at all.

I mean, he occasionally hits for right-handed power where he's a power hitting third baseman who can't play defense or run like, or make contact. Like, ooh. I mean, Ryan Healy played a couple of years of major. Sign me up. Oh, okay. So you want, you want Ryan Healy?

Okay. No, I'm saying the cops might want Ryan Healy. First of all, just go sign Ryan Healy. At least Ryan Healy had a personality, a very bro personality,

but still. Hey, you don't know if Kevin Padlow has a bro personality or not. I don't care if he does or not. He's not good. Move along. I don't know anything about those two prospects.

I don't care. 45. There you get. just because I don't care. There we are. See, I talked them up for you, Aden. Yeah, just because I don't care and I want to move on. By the way,

and keep sending these small, small deals because that's kind of your thing. You love to send these really small minor deals. And honestly, they're pretty fun. I respect someone that has a brand. Yeah. Stick to it. So thank you, Aidan. Let's move on to Damien Grubbs.

At Grubbs Damien on Twitter. who has a deal with the New York Yankees in which the Mariners sent Drew's second writer Adam Makko and Kaden Polkovich to the Yankees for Joey Gallo. It kind of feels like a lot and not enough at the same time. Does that make sense, Fulby? No. Okay.

I guess I'm alone in this boat. I just like, I don't know. It feels like... It seems too much. for me. Yeah. It's like Gallo only has a year. He was just absolutely abysmal since going to New York.

Obviously, New York fans want him out. I don't know if the organization shares that same feeling. But we know an ALOS team asked about him. That's true. That's true. That's true. Second Rider obviously helps them. Maco's really fun.

But Steck and Rider also helps the Mariners. Yeah. And the Mariners love Adam Maco. Though Gallo with his defense would really help. Oh, he would. You'd be great. But again, it's one year. And it's six years of Maco who very likely is going to,

his value and trade is going to jump up significantly. I think it's already pretty good. So if this was Maco for Gallo straight up, I'd strongly consider it if it was Steckenrider and Polkovich. straight up for Gallo, I would probably consider it, but adding Maco and Steck and Rider in the same deal, to me,

that it seems to hurt the Mariners. Like, the net is still positive for the Mariners in 2022. Gallo is going to be more valuable than Steck and Rider. But again, now you have to go out and you have to replace Steck and Rider, which you probably easily do, but now you're down at a Maco too.

Like that, it just feels like just a tiny bit too much for me. I'll give it a 4. Yeah, I'll give it a 50. I could see something like this happening. Yeah. I just wouldn't love it. Yeah.

And I'm a Joey Gallo fan. I'm not one of those. Oh, you can't have a guy who strikes out 200 times in your lineup. Of course you can. You absolutely can. So I'm a Joey Gallo fan. Those takes are interesting that people have about. They're bad.

Joey Gallo, yeah. Any take that is not Joey Gallo is a good Major League Baseball player is bad. Let's just put that out there. That's a bad take. All right. So thank you, Damien. Let's get on to our last trade here from Travis Buts at Travis B underscore 34. Three team deal with the twins and A's.

So this one's pretty large. So bear with me here. The Mariners get reliever Caleb Tielbar, Josh Donaldson, third baseman. carries quite a bit of money but under club control for the next two years and frankie montes under club control for the next few years uh so they address their third base spot they get some bullpen help and get their second starter the twins get matt chapman taylor trammell and taylor and taylor dahlard and the aes get emerson hancock connor phillips kate marlowe yohan Noah Miller and

Alaric Solair So kind of hits on The A's with wanting to get bulk Twins get a Cheaper Solution at third base Slightly cheaper solution at third base And kind of keeps them in that mix

To still compete And they get Taylor Chmel Who will probably help them In 2020 at least play for them in 2022 Taylor Dullet Pretty fun I kind of like this deal. I wonder

of Minnesota does this because I think we understand that they're probably not rebuilding at all. But Chapman has a lot of question marks. Tremel has a lot of question marks and dollared while he's interesting. Probably a number four starter ceiling,

more than likely a mid-reliever. And, you know, they clear some of Donaldson's money, which is... I mean, it's the truth. You clear some of Donaldson's money, probably about, you know, $10 million. give or take, which is helpful, but that cost you. Duran, who's top 10 prospect in their system.

You know, Noah Miller is pretty interesting. He's probably top 15 to 20 in the system, although he is a few years away. So it's not like he's super enticing. But yeah, it just to me, I feel like, my hang up here is would Minnesota do this? But overall, just understanding how hard. it is to get a three-team deal set up.

This is really well done because I think it addresses the needs of all three teams. I think all three teams get packages they could be reasonably happy with. I mean, Oakland getting Hancock, Phillips, Marlowe, Duran Miller for two years of Montes and two years of Chapman. That's pretty good value for those guys. So, yeah, I think I'm going to give this one like a 60. 65. It's really well thought out. Yeah, I'm going to make a statement here. This is the best three-team deal we've ever gotten on Fan Fiction Friday.

Agreed. It checks pretty much all the boxes. Yeah. It might be a little pie in the sky from the Mariners side of things to get Donaldson and Montas. But it's not like they're getting them for a discount. I mean. Yeah. No, they're giving up a lot.

They're giving up five assets. like top five assets top five at type top five prospect top 10 prospect a couple top 20 prospects and a young Taylor tremel who was top 10 in the system before this year who flash some really good things like yeah that's it's quite a bit and they have to take on Donaldson's contract too um yeah like I don't think they underpaid for those guys I just yeah these type of things don't typically go down but as it's constructed yeah it's a really good trade I'm going to give it a 65. Yeah, it's very, very well about out.

You know what, screw it. I'm going to give you a 70. It's Christmas after all. I'm going to give the first 70 we've ever handed out on fan fiction Friday. All right, well, you know what? It's an 80. How about that? Top that.

Top that. Ha, ha, ha, first 80 ever given out. I'll stick a month 65. It's an 85. We're breaking the scale, baby. Okay. It is Byron Buckson defense on the 2080 scale, apparently. Yeah, no, it's really well done.

I'll stick to my 65. Yeah, very good job, Travis. So that's going to do it for our show. And thank you so much for joining us here on lockdown Mariners and taking some time out of your Christmas Eve to come listen to us to idiots grade your trades. And for Colby Pat note, I'm Tidey and Gonzalez.

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