Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - FanFic Friday: Gray, McNeil, Kiermaier and More

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode discuss where the Mariners' lineup ranks in the AL West then read and grade Mariners mock trade proposals, including deals for Kevin Kiermaier, Sonny Gray, Jeff McNeil and more.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline.net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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for more information on that. If you are interested in more of us, it is Fan Fiction Friday here on Lockdown Mariners today. And but before we get into your Mariners mock trade proposals, we're going to look at Seattle's lineup and discuss where it stacks up against the rest of the ALS. And if this is your first time joining us, welcome to the show.

If you like what you hear, give us a follow or subscribe wherever you listen to this we greatly appreciate it so the mariner's only made one move thus far in the off season to address their lineup they traded for second baseman slash left fielder adam fraser but other than that no real changes have been made Kyle seger is now officially off of the team and officially retired and that's about where we are we know that the mariners have shown a lot of interest in the likes of chris brian and trevor story and say a Suzuki, but nothing has come of that because we're obviously in the midst of a lockout. So the lineup for now is pretty incomplete, but we're going to talk about how, as it currently stands,

where it stacks up against the rest of the division that they're in. So Colby, where do you think their lineup right now falls? Again, where everything is right now, it's probably the worst in the division. you know, you kind of start looking through and you go, okay, well, Houston is probably still the best. Even if they lose Correa, it's still right there near the top. And then obviously, you know, the angels have Trout and Otani and Rendon. They can hit. Like, that's never been in doubt.

You know, Oakland still has the mats. They still have Lauriano. So Oakland's probably a little bit ahead of where Seattle is. And then Texas has the two big guys in the middle and also guys like Nate Lau or low. One's Lao, one's low. And they have Adela Garcia who really tapered off in the second half of the last year. But still, that lineup probably a little bit better than Seattle's, which right now is largely Thai-Brantz and Mitch Hannager. So, yeah, right now, it's at best fourth, I think, in the division.

Yeah. And probably last, just because they lack the impact of the Simeon Seeger one-two punch. So it's got a long way to go. But thankfully, you know, it's going to get there. Like there's very little doubt that the Mariners are going to add a significant bat or two once the lockout lifts. So right now it's fifth, but, you know, come opening day, I would think it's probably going to be third, maybe second, kind of depending on how the rest of the radius it goes. They're not going to be able to match the star power that the Rangers added, even if they get someone like story, even if they add both story and Bryant. Like those guys, they're worse than Semy and Seeger.

At least I would make that argument when all four guys are at their healthiest. but I think that they can make a lineup that is longer than the Rangers that is ultimately going to be better than the A's because look, the A's are more than likely going to trade Matt Olson whenever things get back underway. They're probably going to trade Matt Chapman. They're going to make some moves that are going to, that is going to make their lineup significantly worse.

So I think that the Mariners at the end of the day are going to be able to overtake the Rangers and the A's here I don't think that they're going to be able to do enough that that puts them over the angels and the Astros, you know, for as much crap as we give the Angels, right? That's still a really good lineup with two, you know, three superstars with Rendon and Otani and Trout. And then, you know, they have some other, you know, complimentary pieces like Fletcher, yeah, yeah, et cetera. So, yeah, they, they have a really nice lineup. The Astros, like he said, even without Correa, they still have Yorda and Alvarez. they still have Kyle Tucker, they still have Jose Altuve, they still have Yulee Grayel.

They still got Alex Breggman, of course. They still get a lot of firepower in that lineup. So I don't see, I don't foresee the, the Mariners overtaken either one of those teams, but I think there's a pretty good shot that they go into opening day with a better lengthier lineup than the A's and the Rangers, even if they're not able to match that star power of the Rangers. But yeah, you know, they still have some good pieces in place right now. Mitch Hanigur, Thai France, J.P. Crawford.

But, you know, Adam Fraser, of course. But, yeah. But, you know, there's also just a lot of upside that you're kind of banking on right now with Jared Kellnick. Eventually, Julio Rodriguez, even Abraham Toro. So there's still, like, a lot of uncertainty in this lineup that puts it near or at the bottom for me right now. But there's definitely a path to making it a lot better than it currently looks. Yeah, I mean, if they go out and they add, just a couple of the guys that they're linked to, Chris Bryant and Suzuki or whoever you want to put it or Trevor Story and Chris Bryant. Or as we call him Trevor Bryant or Chris Story. Like they pull off that miracle.

Then you start kind of looking at it and you go, okay, well, again, still not as deep as. the Astros and the Angels. And obviously, like, nobody is going to outdo the one-two punch that the angels have of Trout and Otani, assuming both can stay healthy, which, you know, hasn't really worked out so far. But you start stacking it and you go, okay, look, we have Brian, we have Hanager, we have France in the middle. We hope Kelnick takes the next step.

We really think Julio is going to come up and hit pretty soon. You know, we like Suzuki's bat. And then even the guys where there's some, you know, offensive issues. I mean, you're talking about guys who, you know, take walks, don't strike out, put the ball in play. And you're just in a position where, you know, basically your biggest holes are hoping that Jared Kellnick, September, is more real than the other months. And catcher, which is pretty much a black hole for every team in baseball offensively. So, yeah, you've got to add a couple of major pieces here. but it does sound like the Mariners are trying to do that.

So, yeah, I'm pretty confident that if we have this discussion again on opening day, I would say they're probably going to jump the A's and the Rangers. But still, I just, like you said, it's hard to envision any scenario where they jump either the Astros or the Angels, unless, you know, JP just randomly has like a 20 home run season. And Kelnick is the September, Kelnick, and Cal Rale, all of a sudden looks like he can hit. like it would take some minor miracles to jump either of those two teams but yeah it's it's definitely the area that needs the most work right now be sure to check out the locked on a's podcast and locked on angels and locked on rangers locked on astros to see how they feel about where the mariners

are and where their respective teams are lineup wise but like we said at the end of the day it's it's an incomplete picture right now for the mariners lineup wise but you guys actually have have some ideas on how to make it better. So that's what we're going to be looking at with fanfiction Friday in just a moment. But real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by BenOnline. Dot football might be over this season, but basketball is in full steam for both pro and college hoops. And from all the latest odds, totals, player performance props to where the next fired coach

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Thank you again for making us your first listen of the day, just like you do here, every day and just a reminder to check out locked on MLB prospects host lindsay crosby is a prospect encyclopedia and he's going deep on the MLB stars of tomorrow it's free and available wherever you get podcasts just like us so let's begin fan fiction friday everyone's favorite let's look at what we got via our email lockdown mariners at gmail.com we only got two trade proposals via email this week one comes from jquah it's a mariners and reds deal which uh this one made me giggle a little bit reading it. Edwin Arroyo and

Kyle Lewis for Sunny Gray and Jake Bowers. Bower Rangers could return via the steel. What do you think, Colby? Always be open to the return of the Bowers Rangers, but we're going to have t-shirts made, but Ty was lazy. Anyways.

Yeah, it feels kind of like selling low on Kyle Lewis a little bit, but not a ton. You know what I mean? I struggle with Kyle Lewis trades because I still believe in the player. I think that's a guy who's, you know, at least an average bat, you know, 100 WRC plus guy with, with power, you know, pretty good ability to use all fields. We've seen him do it. He'll probably always hit for a decent average, probably a round league average at least. Yeah, and I, and I don't want to just say that,

oh, he can't play center field anymore because he hurt the same knee again. Like, we don't know that. maybe he can't, but maybe he can. And if he can, that's an everyday player. And even if he can't, that's a really, really good fourth outfielder, who's probably going to break out randomly one year and have like a 35 home run season where he hits 270 because that's just the upside he carries. So I like Sunny Gray. He definitely helps.

And I understand the idea that Kyle Lewis is a bit of an expendable piece in people's minds. But I think I can get Sunny Gray without trading Kyle Lewis. And I would rather trade, you know, Stout, um, Connor Phillips, uh, even Brandon Williamson, honestly, than, uh, I think Kyle Lewis. I just, I don't want to give up on him. And then Arroyo is a little too good to be a throw in. I, I think if I'm trading Kyle Lewis for Sunny Gray, like that's all I'm willing to give up.

Yeah. I, I wholeheartedly agree with that. Yeah. And if you're basically looking at it from a two for two swap, I mean, I'm not swapping Edwin Arroyo for Jake Bowers, you know, or Kyle Lewis, whatever, which that's not really what the steel is, right? Like it's Arroyo and Lewis for gray. And I think that's too much.

I think that's too much of an overpay. You know, I think the best piece that the Reds could feasibly get in a sunny gray deal from the Mariners is Brandon Williamson and even that's stretching it a little bit. You know, I would prefer the Mariners give up someone more. in their 10 to 15-ish range of prospects. So that's kind of starting with Levi Stout that we've heard has, you know, the Reds have some interest in. We've also heard that the Reds have some interest in Brandon Williamson.

But yeah, just for the reasons that you mentioned, right, I'm not ready to give up on Kyle Lewis either. Plus, if he can get back to full strength or at least close to it, he can really help me in 2022. So, you know, that goes back to the. the whole lineup conversation that we just had and making it you know more more lengthy so

yeah I think this is just a bit much from the Mariners side of things the Jake Bowers inclusion is funny that's why I said I giggled when I read this but if they wanted Jake Bowers they would have just figured out a way to keep him this off season before he hit free agency so yeah

I'm gonna give this one, 30. Wow. Okay. I was going to say 45 because like

if they made this deal like forget Bowers for a second but if they made this deal it's just gray and a small piece like what if it's like gray and Amir Garrett or something like that?

It's still an overpay. Yeah, no, it is. It is an overpay. But it's also like one where you're like, hmm. I kind of get it. Arroyo is years away, half a decade away, at least. And Lewis, you know, again, you do have the kind of this jumble of outfielders

and you really need that mid-rotation starter because like we just talked about, the lineup is never going to be, you know, top of the... But I just, I feel that I can work out a deal that makes more sense of this, where I give up someone that doesn't hurt me as more as Kyle Lewis. Right, I agree. But the deal proposed basically, I'm looking at it as like, if this came across the ticker, you know, what would my reaction be?

I'd be like, oh, that's a bit much. But I'm happy to have Sunny Gray. And it's not egregious. Like, it's not like they traded Julio, you know, so. Right. Yeah, I'll give it a fore. I don't know. It would sting for me.

It would. It would. But it's also, I could understand it. I just wouldn't like it. Sure. Okay. So Cole wants to know. if a

Mariners Mets trade in which the Mariners get Jeff McNeil and the Mets get Abraham Toro and Zach Deloche would work. Probably not. I just look there's no debating that McNeil is a better player than Toro. But Toro plus De Loach it just feels

like I'm probably still making this deal. Don't get me wrong if I'm the Mariners. But after the year that McGill just had. Yeah. And thinking about the upside that Toro has, plus I have to give up Deloach in the process. Fourth outfielder. Maybe that's how you feel.

That's how you feel too. You haven't ranked 14th. Yeah, that's true. I do feel like that. Anyway. But yeah. But in general, though. Like, like, it's just there's a lot.

there's a lot that kind of goes into the thought process here of this and that makes me a little bit hesitant on this from the mariner's side i still probably make this deal at the end of day now to the met's do this obviously they there's been reports that they're pretty much dumb with mcgneal they want to wash their hands of him they're not going to give him away for nothing right he has considerable value but it seems like they do want to move on from that situation tour would be a viable replacement and apparently a lot of teams love him. Yeah. And you know,

Brandon, could they get some better for him than this? Probably. Brandon Nemos headed to free agency after the year. So if they think Deloche can play center field, you know, he should be ready sometime middle next year, in theory at least.

So, um, sure sounds like they want a starting pitcher for him, though. Uh, and if you're the Mariners, you don't have one to give, not realistically. ways. So I think to get

McNeil you'll have to do a three-team deal and that would probably be with the Reds or Oakland. So it just like the deal would make a lot of sense for the for the Mets by the way. Who would? Bassett. Yeah. Or Mania.

Tons of sense. And then they could flip McNeil to Seattle and then Seattle could send what would have Mania or Bassett? Connor Phillips and Connor Phillips, Zach Deloach, Will Fleming,

Edwin-Iroyo, I don't know, somebody who's a little bit of way. Like, they could do that for McNeil, and I think that would work pretty well. The deal as it is right now, like valuation-wise, I think it's fine. McNeil's probably worth a little bit more than that. But again, the Mets are trying to compete

for a World Series this year. They're really looking for starting pitching. McNeil's kind of their best trade chip to go get it without dipping into their farm system even more. So in practicality, it's probably like a 40 grade in terms of just like vacuum, you know, value. It's probably a 45, fringe 50, somewhere in that range. Right.

Yeah. I'm going to give it probably 45 as well. It's mine. I'm not sure it works for the Mets. Yeah, I don't think. it works for the Mets and I think there's a little bit of hesitancy from the from the mariner's side of things as well there shouldn't be but knowing how much they love Toro there probably is

so Twitter what do you have to offer on Twitter let's start with Brandon Kebba at K3BBA Mariners trade Kyle Lewis to the Phillies for men you guys really hate Kyle Lewis today so so Phillies give up Matt Veerling and Donnie Sands. And Sands, as Brandon mentions, had a 80 plus percent contact rate in a 200 plus ISO at AA and ready to break out.

Matt Veerling had some pretty high exit velocities. So what do you think about this deal? Yeah, it's a no for me. I understand the X velocity thing. and I understand, you know, I understand why Kyle Lewis would be, you know, of interest to the Phillies. I get why Veerling and Sand would be of interest to the Mariners. But there's a reason why we rarely see trades where teams swap the same position, right? It just doesn't happen that much.

And if you're the Mariners, you know Kyle Lewis, you've worked with Kyle Lewis, you trust Kyle Lewis. you kind of feel like you can count on him like you know who he is, how he's going to work, all of that stuff. The other two guys you're trying to figure out and is the difference between that package and just keeping Kyle Lewis worth that risk

of whether or not they work in your clubhouse because there's no, what cannot be debated is that Kyle Lewis has a far longer track record of major league success than either of those two guys. So they said, I think it's a clever trade, but I think it's actually trying to be

a little too clever. I just, I'm not, I'm not giving up on Kyle Lewis for this. No. Like, again, if they want to do like, if I'm going to hesitate at trading Kyle Lewis for Sunny Gray, I'm definitely not doing this deal.

Yeah, I think for me, it's like, oh, do you want to give us Zach Eflin and Beirling? Then maybe we can talk. Because Eifflin's only got one year left, you know, and he's not going to be ready until maybe June at this point. Yeah, even that I'm probably not doing. Yeah, probably not. Like I, I'm still heavily invested in Kyle Lewis and maybe I'm wrong.

And if I am, that's not a, it's a bad time to sell on Kyle Lewis. Oh, you're, you're selling for at best 50, 60 cents on the dollar. Yeah. It's just, it's a bad time to do it. He's more valuable to you. Like, he could legitimately help you if he's healthy this year. Like, he's healthy. If he's healthy, he's probably your third best hitter right now.

now. He gives you certainty in the outfield, which you sorely lack, right? Right. So, I mean, yeah. And he's particularly at center field, right? Right. I assume and he can play it. But that's a big F too. It is, but it's not like he's going to be like, oh, well, he can only DH now. Like, that's not where he's at. He can still play in the corners. Um, he doesn't even turn 20s. You don't want to re-agravate it. You don't, you know, there's a lot of goes into that. But he doesn't even turn 27 until the all-star break. and you have him for four more years,

and he has all three options left. I just, I'm not ready to ship Kyle Lewis, not for nothing. Like, that's not what this trade is, because you do get a couple of interesting, you know,

older prospects, but I'm not trading Kyle Lewis, you know, unless I'm getting somebody I can really bank on improving my major league club. And I just, I can't do that with the two, with Verlinson Sand.

I just, I can't do it. So, it's a pass for me. But it is creative. I'll give them that. Indeed. All right. We got about, I believe, three or four more trades to go. But real quick, a reminder of this episode of Lockdown Mariners is brought to you by Bill Bar. This is the time of year that I've pretty much given up on all of my New Year's resolutions, that is.

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back to the trades. Let's start with Gavin Gardner, who has an Evan White and Dylan Moore deal for Kevin Kiermeyer and Tyler Glassnow. How do you feel about this? Just not that interested in Glass now. because again we're assuming there's no setbacks

and he's ready to go on opening day 2023 and that's the only year I get of him and it's the year coming off of his injury like I don't even get the year after the year after yeah you know what I mean the second year off the injury like I

like look I'm just not willing to give up anything that's even mildly useful to me potentially like I'm not ready to give like I've said this multiple times on the show now because we've had multiple Evan White trade proposals in the past, which basically sells them for pennies on the dollar. I'm just not ready to give up

on him. Dillamore, whatever, like he might not even make the 26-man roster depending on what the Mariners do the rest of the off season. And to get Kevin Kiermire in the deal, that obviously solves a pretty big need for the Mariners right now, albeit at a pretty expensive

cost of $14 million. But yeah, it's just I'm looking at it as more for Kiermire, which is fine, in my opinion. And then White for Glassnow, that part, I look, and I know this has been, this has been speculated about before. I think this, Evan White for Glass now was the, the deal that Joe Doyle, uh, wrote about, right? Mm-hmm.

Like, I, I get the reasoning behind it. I just, for the reason that you said, though, we don't know if there's going to be setbacks. We don't know what kind of. version of Tyler Glassnow we're going to get. We don't know if he's going to be ready by opening day and I've said this time and time again when we've talked about Glass Now before is like

at most I'm kind of banking on him giving me maybe 10 good starts coming off the injury the further removed that he gets from the injury. Is that worth Evan White? To some people it might be like I get it.

This is kind of like the J-quotrade from the last segment where like if I see this scroll across the ticker I'm like it's a bit of an overpay but I get it like and it's it's really yeah I'm not yeah I'm not disappointed by this deal no it's like okay like I understand it um but there's also no reason to trade Evan White I know people are ready to give up on him but you don't have to because he has options and you know and he's athletic enough to play elsewhere so it's not like you can say well he's a first base only So, like, if he can't, you know, Ty France is the first baseman, he doesn't fit. Well, no, Evan White can play in the outfield.

He's that good of an athlete. And if both Evan White and Ty France hit, you figure it out. So you don't have to trade Evan White. And by the way, if you wait until Evan White does hit, you're going to get more in a trade than, you know, 70 innings of a pitcher coming off of an injury and one year of a league, at best, a league average bat with plus centerfield defense. it's going to cost $14 million. So yeah, it's just one of those deals where it's like, if I saw it, I'd be like, I get it, but I don't love it. It's okay. Yeah.

I'm going to give this one like a $45. Yeah, same. Bleacher Report. This is a deal that we were sent by both Doug Salisbury and let me get the other guy's name real quick. Sorry, Brandon via email. God, where do we even start with this? All right. So Bleacher report said that the mariner,

or they have this proposal where the mariners give up. Noel V. Martay, Mitch Hanager, and George Kirby for Matt Chapman and Frankie Montas. So. Go to Bleacher report for your baseball news. They don't know what they're talking about. No. So you want me to trade.

two top 25 prospects in all of baseball and my second best hitter for a declining third baseman and a pitcher who has put together number two production once in his entire career. Yeah. And only has two years left of club control. How politely can Jerry Depoto say bite me? Probably like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's, this breaks the scale at zero.

It's stupid. Like, whoever wrote this is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, this is a, um, the same level as that Yankee fan from last week's, uh, and this is from Bleacher Report. Fan fiction Friday. Yeah. Like, if Jerry DePoto, I, hold off this trade, like, if he made this exact trade, I would call for his job immediately. Yeah. You know, what's really sad. Someone got paid to write this article.

Yeah. Money. They got paid money. Like actual money. Money was exchanged for this kind of article. It's like they asked an Oakland A's fan, what would you have to get to trade these two guys? And they're like, oh, those are my two favorite players. So like, honestly, it would have been less ridiculous if they had just asked for Julio Rodriguez straight up. I'm not even joking. It would have been less. It would still would have been bad. But it would have been less ridiculous than Noel B. Marte and George Kirby, who's going to. make his debut this year. And Mitch Hanigar. Yeah. It would have been, it would have been bad if they had asked, said Julio straight up for those two guys.

That's bad. Right. Right. It's not as bad as this trade. Zero. All right. Let's stop wasting our breath on this. Let's go to Crazy Shark. Who wants to know if a Justin Dunn and a player to be named later for Jeff

McNeil would work. I mean, there's a lot of ambiguity there. So I mean, who is the player to be named later? Is it Julio Rodriguez? You know, but like, yeah, I don't know. Justin Dunn isn't going to be the, isn't the caliber of starter that the Mets are looking for

just to actually seriously address this. the player to be named later I assume you're probably thinking someone that's in the 15 to 25 range and consensus Mariners prospect ranks that's just not going to get it done for Jeff McNeil even if it's a little bit higher than that

still probably not going to get it done for Jeff McNeil I just like Colby said earlier when we were talking about the other McNeil deal they probably want a starting pitcher back and again Justin Dunn just isn't that guy. Yeah, you know what? Here's a new proclamation because I have a feeling we're going to be doing fanpiction Friday for at least a couple more weeks.

No players to be named later. Come to the table with a player or don't get graded. That's simple. And we're starting that right now because if the player to be named later is Levi Stout than just say Levi Stout. If it's Levi Stout and Justin Dunn, probably not enough for McNeil. But okay, like prospect. I think that's about the right area.

But if it's, you know, Justin Donne and Andrew Moore, well, that's a 20. Like, you know what I mean? So don't come to us with players to be named later. So 20 from you? Yeah, just because it's, I don't know what is the player to be named later. Who is it? I can't grade a trade where I don't know all the parameters. So, yeah.

I'm not, you know what, not even a 20. Incomplete. Incomplete. See me after class. Like, Give us a name, man. Give us a name. Okay.

Last trade of the day comes from Aiden. Mariners get Jake Knoll, second baseman, first basins, slash left fielder. He's more of a first baseman for Colin Davis and Fred via Real. I have no interest in training Colin Davis for Jake Null. It doesn't even matter about via Real. Davis is someone that's probably has a pretty good chance to stick in Center, field. I'm not training it for a guy that's more or less struggled to stay at the big league

level as a first baseman. Yeah, Colin Davis is interesting. He's got some, he's got some tools. And while he's not in the top, you know, 20, although I'm pretty close, honestly, he's a very interesting player. And I'm just going to take the shot on. him because Noel gives me nothing I can't go get out of the free agent scrap in on a minor league deal. So, yeah, just no.

Noel feels very Jose Marmaliocese. How dare you invoke his name? But yeah, basically. YouTube player of the game, Jose Marmalaos. The highlight of his career. By the way,

or the line drive home run that he hit off of, Dustin May. I think love to. I'm fully expecting Marmalaos to go. Where do you go, Japan or the KBO? I think Japan, right? Somewhere. He's going to be one of the best hitters in the Japanese League.

I'm totally calling it right now. Oh, absolutely. But he's going to come back to Major League Baseball in a couple of years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get like a three-year deal. Did you see Stefan Romero got a deal somewhere? Yeah, I might not deal with the daughters. Yeah, that's cool.

I like Stefan Romero. Yeah. But, yeah, he played pretty well over in the MPB, right? It was MPB. It was, yeah, Japan. Yeah. Eric Thames went to Korea. He also got a minor deal with Oakland.

So, yeah. But yeah, to answer the trade, just go sign like Jose Rodon to Ron Dohn. Sorry, just go sign him to a minor league deal. What's the difference? Yeah. 30, 25. 20. 20.

Come on, Aidan. You're better than this. Yeah. This is, I mean, like, this is very much in line with your brand,

but maybe a little too, too far in. Maybe you're getting a little too cute with it. Maybe we propped you up a little too much with us. You should have just gone with Vio Rial. Then I would have given you your 50. I don't care about this trade, a grade that I usually do.

40. 40 is the indifference grade oh is it is that what we decided okay I thought we decided that 40 was the indifference grade fine fine we'll stick with that but yeah all right so that's gonna do it for our show

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