Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - FanFic Friday: Kiermaier, Varsho, Donaldson, Hampson and More
Episode Date: December 4, 2021Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode go over your Mariners trade proposals for Fan Fiction Friday, including ideas for Kevin Kiermaier, Daulton Varsho, Josh Donaldson, Garrett Hampson and more.Be ...sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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It is fan fiction Friday here on Lockdown Mariners. You submitted your Mariners trade ideas on Twitter and via email.
We're going to read and grade as many as we can on today's show.
if you like what you hear it give the show a follow or subscribe wherever you're listening to this we'd
greatly appreciate it so let's jump on over to the email real quick here at locked on mariners and
gmail.com we only got one email this week from trent southwick who uh has a another three team
idea i believe trance has submitted a few three team ideas and uh let me see this one because
i actually haven't looked at it yet oh boy
oh, oh, Trent.
Oh, Trent.
Oh,
Trent.
All right.
So, Colby, are you ready for this?
Probably not, but.
All right.
So I'm going to list what other teams are getting at the steel first.
Before I tell you what the Mariners are getting.
The Mets get Adam Frazier.
The Guardians get Francisco Alvarez,
Noel V.
Marte, J.D.
and Zach De Loach.
Do you want to guess who the Mariners got in this deal?
There are two players.
One from each team.
Jose Ramirez and Edwin Diaz.
You got Jose Ramirez right.
Jeff McKeel.
Not Diaz, though.
Nope.
Nimmo.
Nope.
It's not Noah Send a card, is it?
No, no, no, no.
Who is it?
Robinson Canoe
No
no
the mirror is
get Robinson Cano and Jose Ramirez
for Adam Frazier
Noelvie Marte and Zach Deloche
basically
while the guardians get
JD Davis
Francisco Alvarez
Noel B Marte and Zach the Loach
in the Mets get
Adam Frazier to give up their
number one prospects and
you know basically
the
The Mets side of things here is they're trading Alvarez and Davis to get Adam Fraser and let go of the Canoe contract.
Yeah, the Mets aren't going to do that.
Yeah.
I'm not honestly sure it's enough for the, I don't know if that's even enough for the guardians to be quite honest.
Probably not.
Probably not.
So they get J.D. Davis, Noelvie Marte, and Deloche.
Oh, in Francisco.
And Alvarez.
Okay.
Yeah, probably not.
High credit, high score for creativity, though.
That's certainly not something that we've seen before.
So kudos on that end.
That gave me a good laugh.
So I'm okay with that.
I mean, like, it's not ridiculous to think the Mets might want to try and trade Kanoe,
but they're not going to trade Alvarez to do that.
So, yeah, I just, to get Frazier, I, I just, I don't see.
I mean, like, I don't know.
I mean, Alvarez is a fantastic prospect.
So was Marte.
Yep.
I mean, those guys, if you're going by pipeline standards, so both of those guys are, like, I think they're 10 and 11 on their list.
And they get J.D. Davis who can hit.
He's a major leaguer.
He can hit. He's just a terrible defender.
I think they want some pitching, though, out of this.
Yeah.
You know?
So they're not getting any pitching here.
Apparently Drew Steckin Rider is also in this deal, but he didn't have it in the breakdown.
He just said the Mariners trade Drew Steckin Rider.
So I don't know which team Steck and Ryder goes to.
Not like it makes a whole world of difference, really.
but no I'm going to give it a 50
I just I feel like
if you replace Marte with like
Gilbert or Kirby then maybe
you might even have to replace Deloche
with like Brash or or
Williamson or maybe even Hancock
it's it's going to cost more than that
and the Mets aren't going to trade their best prospect
to dump Robinson Cano's salary they don't have to
they're the Mets. They got that.
Yeah. Yeah. I am.
I'm going to give this one
a 50 because it brought the lulls.
And I
I do appreciate that. I needed a good laugh
today. I think you're being
disrespectful. I think there's
No, it's just the Kno thing. It's just the Kno thing.
It's just the Kno thing. That was funny.
Okay. I just
I just, I think there's some
some decent thought that went into this and some
pretty good problem solving.
It's just
Cleveland's going to want pitching.
and the Mets are not going to trade their best prospect to clear $20 million a salary.
No, I think it's a solid package to Cleveland.
And again, we say this weekend and week out every time we get a three-team deal.
These three-teen deals are just incredibly hard to put together.
So, yeah, no, I want to make it clear here.
I'm not making fun of the trade.
I just thought it was funny.
The Mariners re-acquiring Robinson Canoe.
that would be uh that'd be quite the content right there um so yeah so i'm going to give it a 50 i i
think it's um i think it's fun i'll say that i think it's pretty fun so uh thank you for the uh
the trade proposal trend and and please continue to send trade ideals like that because they are
they are really fun so um let's move on to twitter here uh mariner's source at mariners underscore source
And then there was a couple of people here in the comments that helped Mariner's source work through the process of this deal as well.
So I want to give a shout out to Alex Ledbetter, Alex Ledbetter, 15 on Twitter and Jerry Savage to Potto for working with Mariner's Source here on a deal to get the, to get Tyler Malley from the Cincinnati Reds.
The initial offer was Emerson Hancock, Jake Fraley, and 110, which not enough.
Alex Ledbetter recommended including Mike Mustakis on the deal
and then Jerry Savage-Depodo recommended swapping
1-10 out with someone better.
Mariner's source recommended Adam Maco.
So let's go with Hancock, Fraley, and Macco for Mali and Moustaccus.
What do you think about that deal, Colby?
It probably depends how desperate the Reds are to move salary.
Because those three by themselves,
Malley.
It's fringy.
I just, you know.
I think he need a better leading piece on Hancock, quite frankly.
Yeah, it's just Hancock.
His values at an all-time low right now.
He's thrown like 45 professional endings.
They had to shut him down with a shoulder thing.
It's not serious, but he still didn't pitch.
And he's probably, you know, with the pandemic and how last season went,
he's probably set his ETA back at least a couple months.
if not a whole year.
So his value right now is probably as low as it's going to be.
And there's legitimate upside with Hancock still.
So yeah, kind of depends on how desperate the Reds are to move Mustakis.
I don't think they're going to be that desperate.
Because really the deal is Hancock and Makko.
I mean, let's just be real about it.
So, yeah, I, I,
I don't know.
I'd probably give it a 50.
I could see it happening if the Reds are desperate.
I don't think they're going to be that desperate,
but I also have no idea what the Reds are thinking.
So they could very well just do that.
Yes, I'll give it a 50.
Yeah, I'll match you on that 50.
I think it's fine.
I think you probably need a better leading piece
than Hancock, though.
Maybe Brash.
I don't know.
If you replaced Hancock with Brash
in the steel, maybe I feel a little bit better
about it. But yeah, overall, solid,
solid proposal.
Let's get one more in here before we
read off our
built bar ad for the day.
Let's go to Daisy and the dingo.
I assume this is Daisy Dingo's
new account at Daisy's Dingo's
on Twitter rocking the Tyler of the
creator profile picture.
Mariners receive
Kevin Kiramire and Xavier Edwards
while the raise received Drew
second writer Connor Phillips and
Kate and Polkovich.
I think this kind of overcomplicated
a what should be a pretty
simple Kevin Kiermeyer acquisition
because that's, I mean Edwards is
a really solid prospect,
solid middle infield prospect, but
I think really
you know, I don't know if they
necessarily need Edwards.
I really, you know, I would look at this as like the prize of the steel, even though
that Edwards is nice and is certainly really valuable, more valuable than Kevin Kiermeyer.
I think to the 22 Mariners, though, Kevin Kiermire is the prize of the steel.
So I kind of feel like that overcomplicates things.
But what do you think about the steel overall?
I don't think it's enough to get Edwards.
Yeah, I kind of think.
like Tampa has a ton of middle infield type of prospects here and they do want to move
Keirmeyer.
I just don't,
I think you're,
you're getting a little too cute with it.
You're trying to get,
you know,
Edwards at the expense.
Basically,
you're trying to get,
uh,
the raise to overpay to get Kiermeyer off their roster.
I just,
I don't think they're going to do that.
So to me,
it's just drop the Edwards bit and whatever.
you want to trade for Edwards and the deal probably makes sense for Seattle and Tampa.
So I don't know exactly how you you broke that down in terms of like, you know, it's
Kiermire for this guy. I know that's not exactly how it works, but, you know, Kiermeyer is somebody
who's going to be very attainable for Seattle and probably for less than than some people think.
So I would just stick with the Kiermire side of it. I think Edwards is-
You could probably get Kiermire for Steck and Riders straight up.
or Polkovich straight up so yeah um yeah i wouldn't uh yeah i i think like either like
like connor phillips would be too much of an overpay here you know just talking about the three
guys that you have in this deal here daisy dingo um i would just uh yeah i would i would look at this as
kiermire for polkovitch or second rider or whatever and i think you got like a 65 deal there um
but yeah just uh just grading the trade overall though um i just don't think it's enough to get both
edwards and kiermyer so i'm gonna give it like a uh 45 i'll give it a 50 um okay i like the creativity
trying to get a prospect back but it's just it's not something the razor are gonna do sure sure
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Let's get, uh, let's continue the trade talk here, uh, looking at a deal from Ryan at Ryan D.D. 17 on
who proposes the Mariners trading Levi Stout and Zach the Loach or Jake Freely to the Diamondbacks for Dalton Varsho,
who's playing centerfield and the outfield or sorry, catcher and the outfield for the Diamondbacks right now,
a young player who was worth two F for this season.
Pretty good defender out in left field, especially not performing at the plate just yet.
246, 318, 437, 98 WRC plus this year with 11 home runs, 38 RBI in 95 games, 315 plate appearances.
Yeah, I don't think this is enough yet.
I don't think that the Diamondbacks are really in a rush to trade Varshow.
I like the player.
I think he would help the Mariners.
I think he would be an upgrade over, you know, most of what they have in the outfield right now.
but yeah i don't think stout and deloge because that that would be the most valuable package than stout
and fraily um here and i i just i don't think that would be enough to get varshot from from
arizona but i like the creativity and varsho is definitely a guy that we haven't heard um before
on here yeah just Arizona they should be rebuilding but they just gave milanson a pretty nice deal
So I don't know exactly what they're doing.
Are they going to try and, you know, be 500 again?
Are they going to try and add a significant piece or two?
I mean, their farm system is pretty good.
But even if they do rebuild,
Varshot is a guy that you keep around because he's not making money.
And he's not going to be a free agent until after the 2026 season.
So in theory, you could be good again.
before Varsho hits free agency.
So this is a guy you actually keep around unless somebody's just overpaying for you.
And I don't know, maybe the Diamondbacks love, you know, maybe they love the package that you're getting here from Seattle, particularly Levi Stout.
I don't think they would see Deloche.
I mean, you're kind of hoping Deloche is Varsho.
So I just, I don't think they would do it.
I think Varsho is a guy that they would keep around for a little while.
So I'm going to give it like a 45.
Yeah, I'll probably give it a, eh, I'll give it a 50 because of the, just new face and all that stuff.
You know, we do, we do factor in creativity and all that and uniqueness here on fan fiction Friday.
So, yeah, overall, though, yeah, I just don't think it's time for Dalton Varsha to be traded from Arizona yet.
so I just I don't think it's I don't think you're going to be able to convince
uh Arizona to part ways with him for deloche and uh and stout I think you need to aim a little higher
there uh but appreciate the the trade proposal there Ryan good stuff and let's move on to
Travis butts at Travis B underscore 34 uh who has a deal with the brewers uh Aaron Ashby the
left hand of reliever from Milwaukee in return for jake frailey taylor tremel zach deloche and or i i believe
it's actually one of fraley tremel deloche and drew second rider um why i think that's my question
yeah like ashby is fine you know 11.08 k per nine this year uh in 31 and two-thirds settings
walked a little too many guys for my liking from from for a reliever three point four one walks per nine um
Travis mentions here that you know the mariners need a lefty reliever and no no yeah you don't
you don't you don't really need one like could could one be useful sure but you don't need one
to the point that you're trading um you know a young outfielder and
And through stacker, I mean, like, Steck and Rider is better.
Like straight up.
Safer.
The nice thing about Ashby is he gets a ton of ground balls and like you said,
he misses a ton of bats.
Seattle doesn't have that profile, uh, from the left side.
Um, but again, like, hypothetically, right?
We're talking about trading second rider who is at least, I mean,
I don't know if he's an upgrade, but he's not a downgrade over.
Ashby and now you're going to throw on Frailey or Tramel or Deloche.
Like maybe I would, I wouldn't mind if they did Fraley and Steck and Rider.
I think that's fine, if not a bit of an overpay, but whatever.
It would be interesting to see if they like him as a starter, you know, because that's
right.
Who, you know, what he was in the minors.
So, I mean, if you're getting an Ashby to be, you know, this is a,
terrible cop and really I'm just pulling
this because he's a lefty but
if he's like your Ryan Yarbrough
right then great
cool
um
like I'd be willing to trade that but if he's
if you're just acquiring him just for the sole purpose of him
being a lefty guy to go out of your bullpen
I'd rather keep the outfielder and
stack and rider honestly
yeah I mean
I don't I don't care about
training Jake Freely to me he's he's not that value
So yeah, if you think if you think Ashby can start for you, then fine.
But if that's what you're going to pay just to have him sit in the bullpen, that's not a good idea.
And unfortunately, I think his command is a big enough of an issue that he's probably ultimately going to be a reliever.
But yeah, again, if you want to throw him in the number five spot and see what happens there, sure, give up Stack and Rydder, give him Tremel.
but if you're just going to use them out of the bullpen as a lefty situational reliever, just no, just go sign Rex Brothers or whatever.
But the Mariners don't need a lefty.
They just need guys in their bullpen who can get lefties out and they have some of those guys.
Right.
Don't overpay.
I'm going to give this one 50.
Yeah.
I think that's, yeah, I'll give 50.
Yeah.
All right.
Here's a deal that you'll like Colby.
Eli Sellers 24.
Levi Sout and Adam Maco for Luke Weaver.
Way too much.
Yeah, way too much.
But I know you like Luke Weaver.
I do.
I like him a lot.
Not that much.
Yeah.
It's a pretty decent chance Levi Stout becomes Luke Weaver.
I just in.
But you need that guy this year, Colby?
I'm just shocked.
I mean, you do, but not for Levi Stoughton at a Maco.
I'm not even saying that's a bad valuation.
I think that might be what Arizona tries to get, something like that.
I would just say no.
You get Weaver for two more years.
I like him.
There's definitely upside there.
He's shown it in small doses, but, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, the problem is he's never pitched over, like he hasn't pitched over 100 knitting since 2018.
So.
And he's only done that once.
He's pitched over 65 innings since, you know, or this year.
Like, you know, he had 65 and two-thirds innings.
And that's been his high since 2018.
Like, that's, he.
There's a lot of un-tapped potential here.
But the same could be said for Maco and Stout.
And Maco is a guy that the Mariners, they love is his metrics, his pitch metrics.
So I just don't see them trading them for Luke Weaver.
honestly, like if you're telling me I have to trade that package
for Weaver, I'd probably say, well, can I just get Merrill Kelly instead
just because he's safer? Less upside, but definitely safer.
Yeah.
So yeah, I mean, would I trade one of them for Weaver?
I sure wouldn't want to, but I suppose if, you know,
the Mariners believe that they can fix Weaver or help him, then yeah, I would.
But both of them together, nah.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not a I'm not really jumping at this deal honestly if I'm if I'm the Mariners. I'm gonna go
45 feels about right 40
Yeah, all right. So we will wrap up some of the trades. I don't think we're gonna be able to get to all of them because there are a lot of submissions
This week, but we're gonna try to get to as many as we possibly can within our time limit
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All right, so let's try to get
as many of these done as
we possibly can. You guys submitted
a lot of trade proposals this week,
and we greatly appreciate that.
So, continuing
in order here, let's go
with Jack's trade proposal at Jackson underscore PNW
who has a an idea here wants to know really like how
realistic is Kyle Lewis for Sunny Gray straight up
and I mean I think the Reds won a little more
but yeah but I also could I could see that happening
honestly with what the Reds were doing because Gray has money
attached to him like if that happened I wouldn't be surprised
No, it just, it feels like somebody would outbid them because, I mean, part of this is how do you feel about Kyle Lewis?
Because we've talked about his kind of up and down career and obviously the injuries and if he's not going to be able to play center field, that, you know, definitely lowers his value.
It puts a lot more pressure on his bat.
Yeah.
But, you know, he's 26.
It's not like he's 23.
And I know that doesn't sound like a big difference, but it is.
And you only get him for four more years.
I think you're probably going to have to add like, I mean, I don't know, you're probably going to have to add a Deloche or a, you know, maybe a third tier pitcher.
So not a stout or Williams or Phillips or anybody like that, but maybe like a Juan Pinto, maybe somebody like that.
Maybe somebody like that.
Sure.
Taylor Dullard.
But I think it's close in the.
that you could reasonably offer that to the Reds and they would maybe not accept,
but they would at least engage and try and build around that.
So I think it's reasonably close.
Let's say 55.
I'll give it a 50.
All right.
Cool.
Jack also had our first 80 grade trade of the show by recommending Rob Manfred for literally anyone
else, 80 grade.
Literally anybody else?
anyone. Larry Scott. Larry Scott. Yeah. Jesus. No, thank you. All right. Curtis Christensen
at courtesy baseball. Curtis wants to know, would you trade Cal Raleigh, Taylor,
and Louis Bolivar for Carson Kelly and Madison Baumgarter? Yes. Do I think that the Diamondbacks
would do that? No. No. No, no, no, no. No. Carson Kelly is really good. And while Madison
Baumgarner is not.
He was at least good enough last year that I don't think you're going to get significant value by taking on all of his contract.
And I'm not even sure I wouldn't want the Mariners to do that anyways.
So would I do that trade, though?
Yeah, absolutely.
With the Diamondbacks, no.
Nope.
No.
Yeah, you get Kelly for three years.
He's only 27.
He's succeeded in the big leagues.
pretty good defensive catcher walks a lot.
Yeah, I just don't see the Diamondbacks pulling the trigger on that.
I would, but I would if I were on the Mariners side.
But yeah, I just, I don't think it's enough.
Yeah, I don't think it's enough either.
I'm going to give it a 42.
I'll give it a 45.
I think Dollar would have to be somebody like,
Williamson for this deal to have a shot.
All right.
So let's move on over here to at We Can't Score,
who has the Mariners getting Josh Donaldson from the twins.
The twins take on $17 million in total, so eight and a half per year.
And Brandon Williamson and Jacob Freilly.
What do you think?
fraily to me is not really part of this it's basically Williamson for Donaldson um
and Donaldson at about I don't know what's that $14 million a year plus like the
$8 million buyout at the end um so two years of Donaldson at 36 million for Brandon Williamson
I'll probably say no like if it was like Phillips sure uh Williamson's probably a bit too high
for me, but I like it. I think it's a
I think it's pretty fair
a pretty fair place to start. So I'd give that like a
55. Yeah, I'd
um, you know what?
I think I might give it a 60 honestly, because I think
it's pretty realistic.
I,
for me personally, from the Mariners side of
things, I would like for them not to give up Brandon
Williamson, but I get it. I get it.
You also get Donaldson, not only for this year, but also next
year. Plus right now
with how things are, you know,
if you lose out on Chris Bryant, you lose out
on
Trevor's story,
I'd make a
you know,
pretty good argument that Josh Donaldson
is more of an impact bat than Matt Chapman
is. Yeah, agreed.
So,
yeah, I like
that deal. I like that deal.
And so I would understand if they
made that deal. So I'd say 60.
Honestly.
All right.
So moving on to Aden here.
Lightning round.
All right.
Mariners received Dylan Peters,
left-handed pitcher for Tyler Keenan and Bram Perez.
I honestly didn't know that Dylan Peters was still pitching.
No.
It's basically asked,
do you want to give up two decent prospects for free?
No, I don't.
Yeah, I don't really.
Dylan Peters does not.
Dylan Peters.
Yeah.
30 grade.
Damn, 30.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
What could is, did you know Dylan Peters pitched in the big leagues last year?
No.
Because I didn't until I looked it up.
Like, I have no problem with the, I remember when he was with the Angels or whatever.
But yeah.
Didn't he pitch with the Mariners for like a game?
No.
Who am I thinking of?
There was a lefty who used that they claimed off a waivers from the angels.
Daniel Zamora?
No.
I'll probably think of it during the live stream.
Like, I have no issue giving up.
Brian Perez and Tyler Keenan for just about any major leaguer.
I just don't know if Dylan Peters is a major leaker in that, like, he should be at the big league level.
So, yeah, it's 30, 35 for me.
Just no thanks.
All right.
So Damien Grubbs, Zach Grubbs, Damien.
Another sunny gray deal here.
Sunny gray for Drew, second writer, Brandon Williamson, and Taylor Chamell.
The Reds are going to trade for Taylor Chamell again.
Second writer doesn't do them any good.
I don't think they're
trade bait if anything
yeah honestly you might be able to get
Sunny Gray for Brandon Williamson straight up
yeah you know
because the Reds really like them apparently
the Reds love Brandon Williamson
and so you take on all that money
which isn't that much but to the Reds it is
and you give them a prospect that they love
like maybe you have to sprinkle in like a Juan Tane
or a you know
what George Files or
somebody like that on the back end, but you might be able to get,
uh,
you might be able to get that done.
So I'm going to give that like a 50, 55 maybe.
Yeah, I'll give it a 52.
All right.
Let's move on to Jordan Levitt at Mormon Pizza Man.
Uh, Dodgers get Donald, Donovan Walton.
The Mariners get Zach McKinstree.
80 grade.
80 grade.
I mean, it would be if it was realistic at all.
yeah for those that are listening right now that that are not aware
Zach McKinstree has been kind of a meme between Colby and I for a couple years now
and I'm a I'm a big Zach McKinstree believer so 80 grade
yeah um yeah just but no it makes no sense for the for the Dodgers to trade to
trade for another 40 man utility guy who's worse than Zach McKinthry.
Yeah.
I mean,
come on,
Jordan.
At least throw him like George Fleeze or somebody like that.
Give him something.
Danny Chang,
anything.
That's like a 35 grade.
Not well thought out.
Pizza man.
And I'm only giving you a budget trade.
All right.
Let's get.
All right.
Let's just let's just give grades.
No.
analyst here or analysis here
let's just go grades straight up
on each of these. Taylor Tremel
and Adam Macco for Chris Bassett
45.
Yeah, Bassett had
two years I'd probably be in.
All right. Padres
Mariners
get Will Myers and Denelson
Lamett for Levi Stout and Tom
Murphy.
45.
45.
48.
I mean, what are the mayor's going to do
a catcher if they trade Murphy?
Wilson Ginturas, baby.
I mean, and are the,
with the Padres move,
Lamet for prospect
and a catcher who's probably not better
than Alfaro or,
I mean,
it's probably better than Alfaro.
Is he?
I'd rather have Alpharo than Murphy,
to be honest with you.
Really?
Not to mention they still have Nola there.
They still have,
what's his name,
the lefty from the cuff,
Caratini.
Yeah.
I just,
I don't think they need Murphy at all.
All right.
Phillies, uh,
Mariners,
Mariners give up Zach Eflin,
or sorry,
Mariners get Zach Eflin.
Uh,
the Phillies get,
um,
Taylor Dallard and Zach the Lodge.
Hmm.
No.
Uh,
a bit too much for a guy who's probably going to miss at least April.
Uh,
I'll give it a 40.
I'll give it a 45.
45.
Sorry, Jordan.
all right last one and uh you know of course saving the best for last jerry savage to potto coming
through with a jake frailey for garret hampson swap 42 yeah i don't think that the rockies
would want to trade hampson for just fraley like what's the benefit there hampson's better than
Freely.
Yeah.
And it doesn't
sound like the Rockies are all
that interested in like a rebuild at all.
So like if
Hampson,
Hampson might have fewer club controlled years, but that
really won't matter to the Rockies. I just
I don't see it. And Hampson's
not a great player by any stretch, but
neither is Jake Braley.
So.
Yeah. I mean,
Hampson, you're getting him for
the defense.
In center field and second
base.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Has it. I just, I mean, like, I would do
this deal from the mirrors, of course, but
yeah, I don't think the Rockies are
doing that. And that's kind of how
we have to look at these deals. It's from both sides.
It's kind of like trading Jake Fraley for Dylan
Moore, minus the power.
I mean, he's probably,
he's probably a little bit better than Dylan more.
Is he? I mean,
higher upside, I would think.
Sure, but I mean, a career two
98 on base and a 383 slug.
You can't even steal bases like Dylan Moore.
Dylan Moore might be better.
Straight up in Garrett Hampson.
Lifelong Dillamore Stan Colby Padnaud reporting for duty.
That was one winter.
And that was only because the alternative was to give Colton Wong two or three years.
And I just thought, hey, you know, let's just see if Dylan Moore is good.
And by the way, Dylan Moore had a higher B-WR than Hamson this year.
So, well, there you have it, folks.
Dillmore better than Garrett Hampson.
Clearly.
All right.
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Hope you guys enjoyed this,
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