Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - FanFic Friday: Wheeler, McNeil, Zunino and More

Episode Date: January 15, 2022

Hosts Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode read and grade your Mariners trade proposals, including ideas for Zack Wheeler, Jeff McNeil, Mike Zunino and more.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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You submitted your Mariners trade proposals on Twitter and via email at lockdown mariners at gmail.com. And we're going to be grading them all afternoon long. This is your first time joining us. Welcome to the show. If you like what you hear, give us a follow or subscribe wherever you listen to this. We greatly appreciate it. So Colby, let's get into these trades, starting with a couple that we got via email. And Cole here has a deal with the Phillies in which the Mariners say.

Chris Flexen, Noel V Marte, and Jake Freyley to Philadelphia for Zach Wheeler. Colby, what do you think? It's a bit aggressive to me. Don't get, don't get me wrong. Wheeler's great. But A, the Phillies, they're not going to trade Zach Wheeler. B, I just like, do I want to give up Noel v. Marte to get and Chris Flexen to get Zach Wheeler? or do I just want to give up like Levi Stout to get Chris Bassett?

You know, and obviously you would rather have Wheeler than Bassett, but we factor in the cost. It just, I would look elsewhere. I think that's probably about what Philly would ask, though. It's kind of tough to know. I'm not too in tune with that front office, but... I think they would probably ask more, honestly. He's only got two years left of club control.

It's a fairly affordable contract, too, compared, you know, production this past season. I mean, he was nearly a seven and a half F war pitcher this year, 1042K per 9, 194 walks per nine, 2780 RA, 259 FIP. He was excellent. And that was in 213 innings and a third pitch. You know, 23 and a half million dollars in each of the new next two seasons. I mean, that's a that's a that's a that's a bargain, honestly, for that kind of production. The problem is, though. He's had injury issues in the past. Obviously, you know, he's been a bit healthier over the last few years. You know, he threw 195 innings in 2019. He pitched the whole shortened season in 2020. But, you know, there is a level of concern here because, you know, it took him a while to kind of get started to get healthy and get on track.

And, you know, it's, I mean, that was by and large his career year. The closest he had ever been to where he was at this year was 2019 in terms of F war. He was a 4.6 in 2019. Jump all the way, you know, now you jump all the way to 7.3. I don't think he's going to be able to repeat that, frankly. I don't think that's who he is. But I don't know, $23.5 million for coming off of that year. If they were willing to take this deal, I'd probably heavily consider it.

just that you're right let's hypothetically you you you make this trade right and it's no lv and it's flexen and and who's the other piece it is one second let me get back to gmail jake frailey so whatever um you know all right so i'm replacing chris flexen in the rotation with zach wheeler so basically i'm giving up no lvie martay right but you still need another pitcher if you're the bearer still need another pitcher but i i i do like the upgrade of of jack wheeler over chris flexum for sure well yeah but again you it doesn't solve the pitching problem it's like like and not every every move has to solve every problem at once so i'm not i'm not criticizing it for that but i still in the back of my head i'm like okay so i make this trade well now i have to go get another pitcher and and granted with ray and wheeler i don't really need

like a i probably don't need basset or minaya or anybody like that but You could probably just go get Tyler Anderson. Because really what you're looking is to replace Chris Flexon's productivity in 2020 or what you're projecting for that, right? I would like somebody with at least as much upside as Chris Flexen, and that is that is not Tyler Anderson. But maybe somebody like Michael Panetta, like I'd be into that. So overall, I'd probably give it a 50. I think I'd probably agree with Ty. It's a little light.

And again, if I'm the Mariners, it's a little bit. I don't need Zach Wheeler I I don't know I just I guess I'm just not super sold on Zach Wheeler being an ace So I would probably just For what I said you know like I don't think he's is seven and a half one pitcher every year Yeah

From here on yeah like I don't think that's him Plus you got the injury concerns Obviously that hasn't been an issue over the last few years but you never know Right You never know if that's ever going to rear its ugly head again So you got to assume that risk And overall, yeah, like I said earlier, I don't think the Phillies would take the steal in the end. Yeah.

I think it's more valuable. Yeah, I'll give it a 50. I'll give it a 50 as well. It's not bad, though. It really isn't that bad. And it's a conversation starter, at least for us, right? Like, I don't know if it would be a conversation starter for the Phillies. Probably not.

Yeah, the Phillies were rebuilding, like, actually. trying to move contracts and stuff like that, it would be a conversation starter. But I don't think they're there. Yeah. Not right now. All right. So thank you, Cole. Let's move on to Daniel Barber, who for some reason, again, has a Jerry Kellnick trade.

Jared Kellnick and Tom Murphy to the raise for Mike Zanino and Manuel Margo. So it's basically Kellnick for Zanino, Murphy for Margo. you're doing outfielder and catcher for outfielder and catcher. Zadino obviously coming off of an all-star year. He's on a pretty favorable contract. One of the best, if not the best defensive catchers in baseball. But for one of your top assets, top young assets in your organization right now, no. It's one year of Zanino and one year of Marco for six years of Jerry Helvin.

Yeah. And Tom Murphy's irrelevant in the rest of. rest of this because it dies at Jared Kelnick. Right. I mean, would you make this trade for, I don't know if I'm not asking you, but would you make this trade for Julio Rodriguez? No, of course you wouldn't. So you shouldn't make it for Jared Kelman.

Like you're not trading Kellnick unless you're getting what you would expect to get for Julio Rodriguez or George Kirby. Like his value has not changed all that much. And if it has to this point, you're much better off just keeping Kelnick and banking on the upside because what we saw from Jared Kellnick, last year is not who he's going to be. It's not going to happen. So basically you take last year and he kind of just throw it in the trash,

he learned some things and we saw some positive growth and we kind of got a snippet of what he could be. But the overall numbers that Kelman put up last year, just throw them away. They're not relevant. There are so many, there are so many like different set of circumstances that kind of contributed to this, including he didn't play, you know, organized baseball for a whole year. He didn't play in 2020.

Yeah. and then his spring training is his you know his triple a time gets pushed back to may because of the concerns about COVID and so basically he sits around for two months not to mention you missed a couple weeks in spring training with an injury yeah he look I'm not trying to tell you he was good last year but he's worth a heck of a lot more than one year of a good catcher and a fourth outfielder. And also you look at his month of September right. He was one of the main reasons that they were still in it. Very slash 242, 321, 537 with a 134 WRC plus. He was worth almost one F or that month. Like he was really good in September. Right.

Why would you want to give up on that for a year of Mike Zanino who you've seen? Obviously, he's grown a little bit since he left Seattle. But you know what Mike Zanino is. You know what he provides. And he's a good catcher. don't get me wrong but he's not worth Jared Kalnick

no if you really want Mike Sanino you could probably go get him right now for Brandon Williamson and that's with the race team that's going to compete for a World Series they probably still take that deal I mean it's one year of Mike Sanino who's making a little bit of money Mike Sanino's honestly's not that good

like I know he's an all star he was last year but that doesn't mean anything so is Daniel Vogel back like who cares Zanino is a good player he is not worth one of the still probably one of the 15 best young talents in major league baseball

like he's just he's not worth that so sorry man I'll give it a 30 I'm gonna give it a 20 I do like the Zanino talk though because

that's a guy who I was planning on you know like if if the race hadn't picked up his option i would have been all over so you know we would have talked about him probably weekly on this podcast if he was a free agent but right he's not so yeah no he would be a great fit for this team what it needs to raise the the ceiling of the catching position uh for this roster but yeah um that's not at all i mean the the mariners laugh at that proposal if the raise you know came to them with that I just that. But Zanino, Zanino might actually get traded in July.

And that's even if the race are competing. So file away the Mike Zinno trade ideas. But let's be a little more realistic. They're not traded to Eric Keltnik for Mike Zinno. Not happening. Yeah. Yeah. Not at all.

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You're listening to Lockdown Mariners. Thank you again for making us your first listen of the day, just like you do here every day. We greatly appreciate the support. Let's get into these Twitter Mariners trade proposals. Starting with Mike T at M6374, who has a three-team deal with the Mariners, Mets, and Reds in which the Mariners get Jeff McNeil, the Mets get Luis Castillo, and the Reds get a Hall of Prospects and Drew Steckinrider. The prospect package led by Brett Beatty and Mark Vientos from the Mets and Levi Stout coming over from the Mariners, along with Drew Steckin-Rider, like I said.

What do you think about this deal, Colby? it seems like the Mets are giving up a lot for Castillo. You know, I like Brett Beatty. Mark Viantos is major league ready. And Jeff McNeil is a good player. And even though they want to get rid of Jeff McNeil, they're not just going to toss them in to a deal. Drew Steck and Ryder would make more sense going to the Mets in this deal.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. A second rider should go to the Mets in this deal. It makes it better because the Reds don't need True Steckin-Rider. Steckin Rider is the guy who helps you now. The Reds, if they're doing this deal, they don't want help now. And honestly, if I'm the Reds, I might just ask for Jeff McNeil. Like, I don't know if the Mariners are necessary in this deal.

Because they're giving, if I'm the Reds, like, you're giving me Levi Stout and Drew Steckenrider. I'd rather have Jeff McNeil. You know what I mean? So I don't think the Mariners are necessary in this deal. So it's going to be a lower grade for me just because I don't feel like, they're a huge part of this. Like this deal can be made without them. So I'll probably give it a 40.

I do like the Reds, Mets, and Mariners seem to be a really good, you know, three-team trade idea because they do have, you know, needs that each other could fill. I just, I think the Mariners need to give up a little bit more to make sure that they stay in this deal. Because if this is what they're willing to offer, then the Reds and Mets will, probably just make a deal by themselves. Yeah, they're probably going to have to give up Brandon Williamson. And we know that the Reds like Brandon Williamson a lot.

Yeah. So I think Williamson would probably move the needle for them in this deal, but not stout. And not Steckham Rider, certainly. Right. I mean, basically it would be Beatty. Steckham Rider would move the needle for the Mets for sure. A little bit, yeah. I think it would have to be Beatty, Viantos, and Williamson.

Because basically the Reds would be trading Castillo for Beatty, Vienton. and McNeil and then turning around and trading McNeil to Seattle for Williamson. Yeah. Like I think that's how that would have to work. But yeah, no, it's a good idea. It just needs some tweaks here and there. Yeah. I'll give it like a 45, 48 somewhere in there.

Yeah, you know, I'll give it a 45 too. It's better than a 40. Yeah. All right. Let's go to at Doublewood Dan, who has a deal with the Reds as well. Well, the Mariners get sunny gray. The Reds get Kyle Lewis and Emerson Hancock. This is too much for the marries for my taste.

For anybody's taste. Yeah. Except for the Reds. They're laughing. Yeah, exactly. As I say yes to this. Yeah, you're selling way too low on Hancock and Lewis. It was just one.

Then I'd still prefer they kind of do the book more. of the bulk route. But like if it was just one of them, I could be like, yeah, okay. Like I can understand why that would why that would be appealing. Both of them together. No, it just you're selling way too low on on both of them. And you're doing it to get in one deal instead of spreading it out a little bit. Agreed.

Yeah. Yeah. If gray was like a legitimate number two. Like, yeah. Sure. That makes sense. but he's he's a definitive three maybe four

but probably a number three he's a safe three and some days he'll pitch like a two but some days he'll pitch like a four and he's just he's not a you know he's not a you know give up one of your top arms and a MLB ready outfielder league average bat type of guy

I'll give it a 42 I'll give it a 40 so let's let's go on here to Alex Ledbetter 15 saw this idea on Twitter wanted to hear your grade and analysis raise right-handed pitcher Tyler Glassnell for utility man Delamore and right-handed pitching prospect

Michael Limoncelli also what do you think a fair value is for Glass now and what do you think the raise would want from it seems like they were open to moving him the last deadline. So Glassnow, of course, probably not going to pitch this year. But this has kind of been a popular idea amongst, you know, Mariners fans and Mariners' Twitter in general

over the last few months of trading for Glassnow, and, you know, for the sake of having him in, in 2023 for the last year of his contract, especially, you know, because the raise are probably not going to want to pay him to just not play for them, given how cheap. they've historically bet um so do you think more in limoncelli you know more would help them

potentially um but he adds their 40-man roster which they've had to clear quite a few guys off of and then an upside play in limichelli who still hasn't pitched yet in professional baseball yeah honestly it feels light um even with like the problem glass now like he said he's not going to pitch this year going to make, I think, $6, $7 million. So basically you have to eat $7 million for a guy that you're not going to have. And then you're going to get one year where he's actually going to pitch for you, assuming there are no setbacks. And it's going to be a year where he's coming off of major surgery.

So you're probably not getting even the best Tyler Glass now that you possibly could. So if you're the Mariners or any team trying to acquire Tyler Glass now, You have to be careful because essentially you're you're trading for one year and $16 million of a pitcher coming off of an injury like when you break down what you're actually getting. So yeah, the price should be low. And if it's not, you walk away. But I think this is a little bit too low.

And honestly, if I'm the raise, I'm looking at that. And I go, can you just give us like Starlin Aguilar instead? Somebody that doesn't have to be on the 40 man. but yeah, Glassnow is going to make 6 million this year. He's probably going to make about that next year. So one year, 12 million. So if I'm the raise, I'm like, yeah, can you give me Starlin Aguilar and Lehmanchelli? I think they'd rather do something like that.

But I do like the idea of Glassnow. It just has to be at the right price. That seems too low for the raise to consider. But maybe they really like Lehman Kelly. It's not as ridiculous as, you know, it may seem on the surface. So no let me tell he's a really good prospect who's probably going to rise through a lot of people people's ranks once he actually starts pitching. Right. I don't know.

This is probably as comfortable as I would be trading for Tyler Glaston on a deal like this. I just don't think the race will do it. It's just you talked about the money. You talked about the fact that he's not going to have any impact on your 2022 chances. And 2023, he's going to be coming off of a significant injury. and at that point, you know, by the time that he works further and further away from the injury, you know, maybe at the end of that, you only get 10 quality starts out of Tyler Gloss now. If that, there's just a lot of risk involved in that. So it would have to be something like this for me to take that chance.

But I just don't think the raise would pull that trigger. So I'll give it a 50. for that for the fact that like this is probably what I would like this is probably as far as I would go personally if I was Jerry Depoto in the Marrars I'd probably consider Aguilar I would do I like I would do so but I do too but I would definitely I would do it for a year of glass now take that chance because he's so far away like Starlin Aguilar is is not he's four years away from the big leagues at least right he might only be a first base the H type right right I'll let the race see if they can develop him into a third basement and then I'll

I feel like I could tank on class now being worth a win win and a half maybe two like pretty comfortable in 2023 yeah yeah so I'll trade Aguilar for that yeah so what's your grade 45 45 all right

let's do one quick one before we hop on over to the final segment of the day. This one comes from Ryan Witt at Ryan underscore Witt 7. The Mariners receive Lamonte Wade Jr. from the Giants for Drew Steckinrater and Starlin Aguilar. Lamonte Wade Jr. coming off a really good year for the

Giants 109 games played last year, 253, 326, 482. He was worth 1.5 wins by Fangrav standards. What do you think about this deal? basically swapping Steck and Rider for Wade and also throwing Aguilar in there for the Giants as well I think that gets it done

after the year that Wade just had Well first of all it's Lamont Duh Is it just Lamont? Yeah According to baseball reference yeah Oh wow The broadcast that I that I watched

They call them Lamonte all right I mean somebody's wrong but it's it's probably you Also He has a great nickname. We did a whole segment on nicknames last week on our live stream. Lamonte Late Night Wade. I like late night. Wow.

I like that. Late night Wade. Yeah, he's going to be 20 or he just turned 28, but he does have four years of club control left. I could see it. Yeah, I actually like this trade. I think it's probably a little light on the Mariners side, but I could see a deal like this being pulled off.

It depends on whether or not the Giants see Wade as the everyday guy or a fourth outfielder. But Steckenrad, they're a team that's trying to win, and second rider helps their bullpen, and the Mariners have a pretty deep bullpen, and they need a left-handed bat who can play in the outfield, and that's Wade. So, yeah, this is a pretty creative deal,

and I like it. I'll give it a 55. I think the valuation's a little bit off, but it's solid. I'll give it 55. Yeah, I actually, I like this deal. I don't know if the Giants would take it. I'll say that.

Plus, like, they're not in desperate need for bullpen help. They had a pretty good bullpen this year. Plus, they have a lot of money. They can just go buy a guy. Yeah. And I don't know if Aguilar really is, like, interesting enough to move the needle for them on that to, to, you know, pull this trade off. but it's creative so I'll give it

yeah I'll give it like a 55 58 I really like it I could see it happening for sure yeah I don't think it's a definitive no from the Giants yeah agreed all right so we are going to wrap up the rest of your trade proposals

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Let's start with Brandon Kebba at Kebba with a three instead of an E. Who has a deal with the Diamondbacks. It's kind of a small-ish. deal but kind of a bigish deal at the same time for the mariner's um the mariner's get right-handed pitcher luke weaver and utility man josh rojas for milcar Perez cade marlowe and patrick what do you think about this deal colby i probably wouldn't do it um if i'm the mariner's it is it milcar that makes you pause yeah i i'm big on millcar um But also, like, Weaver, I'm a big Luke Weaver fan.

If you've listened to us on CTZ, you guys know that. I think there's a lot more there. But there are legitimate concerns, including can he stay healthy? And again, if I'm, I don't want to add a number five to my rotation, which is the best I feel calling Luke Weaver because I don't know if he's going to be healthy. I don't really want a number five. I want another number three. I want Chris Flexen to be my five or Marco to be my five. And then Josh Rojas is an interesting player, certainly,

but he fell off pretty hard in the second half. And honestly, he's kind of like poor man's Adam Frazier. I already have that guy, you know, so I don't see him providing a ton of value to me. Can't play shortstop. He's bad there. He's pretty good in the outfield. At least he was this last year. Pretty good at second base, well below average at shortstop.

you know, below average at third. He's just Adam Frazier. He doesn't hit the ball hard. A lot of soft contact, a lot of singles, things like that. Again, it's Adam Frazier. So I'd rather just have Milcar, like, to me, I'd rather have Milcar and sign Michael Paneda than, you know, Luke Weaver. And Rojas, to me, it's just kind of a guy. Like, if you could get Rojas for, like, Marlowe and Frick, fine.

but yeah I just it's a bit much for me yeah it's a it's just nothing to get too excited about you know Milcar has got a pretty high ceiling

that's one that I would like for them to see through or at least trade him to an organization that kind of understands that as well better I just here's the thing with Luke Weaver right Like the talent is there. Like you and I, you know, obviously you like Weaver more than I do.

But like I do like Weaver. You know, but the thing is he's only thrown over 100 innings once. And that was all the way back in 2018. It's just you can't really depend on them. And you need to be aiming higher in the rotation, which they are right now. Right. Like they're going after the A's guys. They're going after the Reds guys.

Well, not right this second because of lock up. You know what we're talking about. They probably still are. At the end of the day. At the end of the day, pick one, all right. Regardless of cost, just pick one. Luke Weaver or Michael Panetta. Who would you rather have as you know?

Michael Panetta. Yeah, because he's, you know, you feel better about his health. Obviously, there's also some health concerns there, but like, I would rather just feel better about Paneda. Yeah. So, yeah. Longer track record, you know, is. Better than I would just have to pay money for him. Like, I just, yeah.

better than Weaver was last year. Panetta was like league average for 20-some-odd starts. That's all I need. I can count on that more than I can count on Weaver. But I'll give it a 45. This is pretty interesting. It's just, you know, Milcar is a guy that I'm higher on than I think most. Yeah.

I'll go like 42. Let's go to Daisy and the Dingo who submitted a ton of trade ideas and some that are kind of just variations of one another. So we're only going to do a couple of yours today, Daisy. This is at Daisy's dingoes on Twitter. Let's do the one here where Daisy has the Mets getting Diego Castillo for JD Davis, straight up, one for one. Me personally, like I like the battle lot of J.D. Davis.

but the fact that he just he really can't play defense you know i do i want another ty france i mean ty france is awesome don't get me wrong but like does that work for me like roster construction wise i don't know like if we're talking about the infielders that are seemingly available from the metz i think it's mcneal and i mean would the metts do castillo for mcneal considering the things that we've heard come out of there that they're pretty much with McNeil? They'd probably want a reliever or a starter is the one hang up I have with that. But we talked about that.

But will they get that? Right. I talked about that. Well, we talked about it. But obviously it was my idea a few weeks ago to propose such a deal because I'm smart. But yeah, you know, going back, what? I said, of course, of course.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Got to pat yourself on the back. Always. Yeah, I'm surprised that you. you know, you haven't torn your rotator cuff or anything from, you know, stretching your arm that far back, but whatever. Yeah, well, the problem with Davis, again, like Ty said, is that it's not that he's bad

defensively, it's that he doesn't play defense. Like, you'd be better off with Ty Francis at third base than J.D. Davis. He's even worse in the outfield, believe it or not. So, yeah, I just, I love the bat. It's a very good bat. He can flat out hit, but I don't want a full-time D.H. I don't want J.D. Davis to play third base. I'd rather have Castillo.

You know who J.D. Davis reminds her of Steve Pierce. Yeah. I think Pierce could play a little second base, though. Like, he was okay there. Honestly, J.D. Davis reminds me of Thai France. Like, that's, I think they're very similar players. Like, I think Davis could be pretty good at first base, at least average. So. We are, yeah, France there.

yeah so um i like the player don't like the fit so i'll give that one a 40 i'll give it a 45 still yeah 45 all right here's uh here's one that's just uh just off the wall uh from daisy it's a three team deal meds and diving backs involved mariners get jeff mcneal that's it for the mariner's side of things the meds get zach allen and Diego Castillo. And the Diamondbacks get Matt Allen, Adam Macco, and Ronnie Maricio.

So basically the Mariners are trading Diego Castillo and Adam Macco for Jeff McNeil. And then there's a lot of other stuff going on in this deal. The Mets giving up two of their top prospects, including Maricio for Zach Allen, who probably only a number three, honestly. I think this is a bit much from the Mets. Yeah, giving up Maricio and McNeil and Alan. like Alan's a good player. He's a pretty good prospect.

I think it's too much for the Mets to give up. Honestly, I think it's maybe a little too much for the Mariners to give up, but it depends on how you feel about Maco. I think Ty and I both have them inside our top 10. I saw one publication that had him like 19 in the mariner system, which is ridiculous, quite frankly. But yeah, I don't think it works for any of the three teams. well, except for Arizona.

We probably would want something like that to move a gallon. So I give it a 40. Needs work. But, you know, any deal that has Jeff McNeil landing in Seattle, I'm interested. But I honestly, that's too high of a price for even me. And I probably, you know, the biggest McNeil to Seattle fan on Mariners Twitter. at least. Yeah. I uh, yeah.

I just, I think from the Mets perspective, I think that's what I'm getting really hung up on here. Um, yeah, not a, not a huge fan of that side of it. Um, yeah, I like the Mariners getting Jeff McNeil. That's always a good thing. But yeah,

I, I feel like this, uh, this deal feels pretty unbalanced on, uh, on, on, on New York side specifically, and maybe even Seattle side. So I'm going to go Hmm

I'm going to go 42 40 Something like that You're good in that range All right last one Coming from Aden at SF NE 58 On Twitter Prospect Swap The Tigers receive

Cade Marlow Mariners Minor League of the year For Zach Hess Right-handed reliever Who's a prospect to who has he finished the year

in double A this past season only through three innings there. I would probably rather take the shot that Marlowe is a late bloomer and just keep him. Hess certainly has some interesting stuff. It's your typical

you know, fastball slider combination here with below average command and control. He's probably going to be big league ready. But to me, I look at it and I go, don't I already have like Wyatt Mills? Like, I mean, Hess has better stuff, but track record, there's not a lot there. So for me, personally, I'd just rather take a shot on Marlowe, not expecting him to do this,

but I would take a shot on him being a late bloomer because he's certainly added power to his game. And he makes a lot of contact. I'd rather take a shot on that than Zach has, basically, is what it comes down to. Yeah, I find Marlowe more interesting. Yeah, frankly. Yeah, I feel like, you know, maybe potentially, you know, in a year's time from now, maybe Kate Marlowe can develop into a fourth, fifth outfielder for my, you know, for my team. You know, he serves as a pretty, you know, good minor league depth that I need to call upon, you know, at some point during the season or something.

Yeah. Plus, on it. I just feel like that's probably more valuable than Zach has because, like, yeah, there's some interesting stuff here. But it's, it's something that I can find, elsewhere ultimately. You have a bunch of in your system. And I, yeah. Cade Marlow, by the way, is,

is four months younger than Zach has. And he's only one level below where Hess finished 20. You know, Marlowe spent most of his time at high A and Hess, you know, spent most of his time last year at high A, so.

And he's a pitcher. He should be well ahead of Marlowe. I, yeah, I would just write out Marlowe. But once again, Aiden coming through with the ridiculously small, barely noticeable trades to keep us on our toes. And I appreciate it. So I'll get this one, I'll get, I'll get this one of 40. But Marlowe for like a relief prospect, one with a little bit, you know, maybe even a little tiny bit of major league seasoning is certainly something that's interesting. I just, I don't think Kess is that guy.

Yeah. I agree. I'm going to give it 40 as well. So yeah. All right. That is going to do it for our show today. Thank you so much for joining us here on Lockdown Mariner's for Colby Pat Node. I'm Ty Dan Gonzalez.

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