Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Flexen Fuel

Episode Date: June 17, 2021

Yes, the Mariners were certainly "Flexen" their muscles last night, eh? Anyways... The Mariners did crush the Twins last night, every aspect was on point, not the least of which was starter Chris Flexen. D.C. talks about the right-hander's best game as a Major Leaguer, and also about the offensive explosion, including big nights from about half the starting lineup. It was announced yesterday that Major League Baseball would officially begin cracking down on pitchers using foreign substances on baseballs to improve their spin rates. D.C. and Locked On Mariners Contributor Jon Miller talk about the implications of these new protocols. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Today on Locked-on Mariners, a team of two kids has the option to answer a trivia question or dare the other team to answer it. The other team can then double dare them back, and the first team must then answer the question or take the physical challenge. Welcome to Lockdown Mariners, part of the Locked-on podcast network, your team every day. Here's your host, D.C. Lundberg. I love that show when I was a kid. And boy, the Mariners were certainly flexing their muscles last night.

Yeah, I've used that pun on the show before. But hey, I'm D.C. Lundberg. It is Wednesday, and it is another early evening special here on Locked-on Mariner's part of the Locked-on Podcast Network. Please remember to download and follow the show on whichever podcasting app that you personally care to use. Ask your smart device to play Locked-on Mariner's podcast or any program here on the Locked-on Podcast Network. Today's show, or at least this first segment, is all about flexend. fuel. I think that's the last bad pun I can come up with for the name of last night's starting pitcher. Chris Flexen turned in his finest outing as a major league pitcher and against a team that

has a pretty decent offense to boot. The twins may suck, but their hitting is not the problem. Chris Flexen pitched eight innings a career high through 107 pitches a career high, only a second time over 100 pitches. The last, the first time was April 23rd, 2000. 17. He allowed four hits. All of them were singles. No more than one per inning, so they were very well scattered, and two of them were erased and ground ball bubble plays, didn't allow any runs, and also struck out eight, and yes, gang, that is a career high. 14 ground balls versus six balls hit in the air. That might be a big key for him. This is the first time all year that more balls had been hit on the ground against him than in the air. His ERA, after this out. dropping dropped from 4-6-8 to 4-12. And how exactly did this happen? Well, for the most part, it was location.

His location was spot on for the most part all game. And his change-up was better last night than it's been pretty much most of the season. And again, he kept the ball on the ground. The good Chris Flexen did not show up last night. The great Chris Flexen showed up last night as I get a text message from my mother. 107 pitches in eight innings averages out to 13.375 pitches per inning, and that's pretty much right on the money for where you want a pitcher to be in terms of pitch efficiency.

I might have given him a chance to finish this one up, ladies and gentlemen. I do not think 107 pitches is very much, and especially the way he had been going. He was cruising. But at the same time, the Mayer's had a huge lead. And because of that, I may have gone to the bullpen because of the game. was honestly well in hand by that point, and not even Raphael Montero could have coughed up that type of lead. Will Vest pitched the ninth inning and set the twins down in short order. He needed a good outing. His ERA in June is 13.50. That's in seven games, six innings pitched,

and that includes last night. And in June, his opponent's batting average is 462. In April, 138 ERA in an opponent's average of 162. in 12 games, 13 innings pitched. May is where it started to get rough. 7-7-1 earned run average, and opponents were hitting 325 against him in his 8 games in May, 9 in the 3rd innings pitched. He's a rookie. This is his first taste of the major leagues, and prior to this, he has only 6 and 2 thirds

innings in AAA, and that's only 3 games worth. In 27 in 20-A games, he actually did quite poorly with an ERA of 6.5. point six seven. And in 2019, which is the last time he played a professional game, he pitched in both high A, double A, and triple A. And he wasn't even at the alternate training site for the Tigers last year. They didn't invite him there. He's a Rule 5 pick, which means that he must remain on the roster all season or be offered back to the Tigers. And from what the Mariners have shown, especially early on, there's no way they don't want to keep him. But usually Rule 5 players don't get all that much playing time. However, Vest has pitched 27 games, pitched 28 in a third innings.

Only Anthony Masevic and Raphael Montero have been in more games. And Mr. Vest has the same number of innings as Mr. Montero, and those two lead the bullpen in terms of innings pitched. Last night's game might be the best pitched game for the Mariners all season. I know that Yusikichi has had a couple of very good games. But I don't remember if the bullpen held up their end of the bargain or not like Vest did last night. That is why I'm calling this the best overall pitched game for the Mariners. Because Chris Flexen did his thing and was stellar through eight innings. And the ninth inning was a one, two, three, a fair out of the bullpen.

I have not touched on the offense yet, but I will do that in B block. But right now it's time for the trivia corner. We've got a trivia question, and it is a Chris Flexen trivia question. While he has never pitched a complete game shutout, this is not the first start in which Mr. Flexen did not allow any runs to score. When was the first? I will tell you after this word from sports trade. I have been talking a lot about sports trade lately, ladies and gentlemen. If you have not heard about it, it is where fantasy sports meets the stock market.

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I think you'll be amazed. Don't sit on the sidelines any longer. Get in on the action at sports trade.com. Answer to the trivia question The first time that Chris Flexen did not allow any runs to score in a game in which he started was his first game as a mariner back on April 3rd against the San Francisco Giants. He went five innings that day and allowed four hits, two walks, and struck out six. He threw 94 pitches in those five innings, not the model of efficiency he was last night.

But I remember that I was very impressed with his curve ball that night. And it wasn't the prototypical overhand curve, it wasn't a 12 to 6 curve, But it almost had the same trajectory as a forkball, where it starts high and then dives down. Anyway, last night was the third time Mr. Flexen did not allow any runs in one of his starts. The second one was May 27th against the Rangers. All three of these games, by the way, took place in Seattle. They were noting on the pregame show on television last night that he's been pitching much better at home this year than on the road.

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Today. Welcome back to Lockdown Mariners. Here once again is your host, D.C. Lundberg. Thank you very much, sir. I did say on yesterday's program that if the good Chris Flexen showed up, that the may put a whoop on the twins. And while Flexion was great, not merely good, the offense more than did their part,

and boy, did they put a weapon on the twins. J.P. Crawford set the tone right away. By driving the first pitch, he saw out of the ball, park for an instant one-to-nothing lead, jumped on a fastball in the upper inside quadrant, got all of it, one-to-nothing lead. Mariners loaded the bases in the second inning with no outs with a walk and two singles. Now, these are typically the innings that have been very frustrating for the Mariners because they'll load the bases with no one out or they'll, you know, get a significant number of runners

on base with no one out and they can't score. But Shed Long Jr. made sure that that would not. happened as he took a hanging breaking ball into the right center field gap, pardon me. It cleared the bases and the way he hit it and the way the outfielders were positioned, I said out loud that he may very well get a triple out of this and he did. He got a three-run triple to bring the score to four to nothing. And Shannon, my housemate noted that he had the hard part of the cycle out of the way in the second inning and that he had a chance to do it.

It wound up not happening, but he still had a very good game. game, two for four with three runs batted in, all of them coming on that basis clearing triple. That triple almost seemed to end the ball game. It had that kind of feel, even though it was early. It just had the feeling that the Mariners were not going to kind of shy away, that the mayors were going to keep adding on, and that is exactly what they did, including home runs from the recently recalled Luis Torrens anti-France. They did not rely on the long ball to score.

but they used the long ball to extend their lead and to get on the board right away. And they chased J.A. Hap after four innings. Nine hits, six runs, five of them were earned. He only walked one, but it came around to score, struck out five, and allowed that lead-off home run to J.P. Crawford. So once Hap was removed from the ballgame, you could call them hapless, couldn't you? Hey, I used that joke yesterday. Hap threw 48, pardon me, 84 pitches in those four innings.

and he gave way to Griffin Jacks. And I think that Griffin Jacks was something of an unsung hero for the twins last night. He pitched four innings, gave up four runs, three walks, and two home runs. And that might seem like an unusual pitching line for someone I just called an unsung hero. But he saved the rest of the bullpen by going out there and wearing it for four innings. Those types of outings can be very, very tough. But they're important. They noted on TV broadcast.

that he has a lot of pitches for a reliever. He has four pitches where your typical reliever will only have two or three. And that, coupled with this long relief appearance, leads me to believe that he might be starter material if he can better locate his pitches. The twins may think of him as a starter. I don't know what their plans for him is. But he threw 93 pitches in that relief appearance, which is more than J.A. Hap threw as a starter.

Mr. Jacks was optioned, pardon me, to AAA today. in a flurry of roster moves that the Twins made. Mayors did have not made any as of this recording, and it's about 20 minutes to 6 o'clock in the evening. They also noted on the TV broadcast that Mr. Jacks was drafted out of the Air Force Academy and that he is in the Air Force Reserves, and his wife is an intelligence officer in the Air Force. I want to take this opportunity to thank both of them for their service.

And Jacks is not the first player drafted out of the Air Force, Academy, but he is the first player to reach the majors having been drafted out of the Air Force Academy. Back to the Mariners' offense, though, they were clicking on all cylinders pretty much. 10 runs, 14 hits, four walks, 11 strikeouts, though, that's a little bit much. Crawford was 3 for 5 with that lead-off home run. Ace Frey was 1 for 4 with another walk. Ty France was 3 for 4 with a double and a home run. Jake Bowers was 3 for 5. Luis Torrenz was 2 for 4. Already talked about Shed Long.

The only player who did not reach base was Kyle Seeger. He went 0 for 5 with two strikeouts. He needs to be moved out of that cleanup spot. And I personally think he's done. They need his veteran presence on the team. He's one of the few veterans that are on the team, although I feel a little funny using the word veteran in that sense after talking about Griffin Jackson's service in the U.S. military. But back to Seeger, I think they need to start looking at other options at third base. Keep Seeger on the team as a left-handed pinch hitter and that veteran presence that I spoke of. Try Dillon Moore third base. Before he went on the disabled list, his bat was really starting to heat up, and he's still doing fine.

See how Ty Freitz does at third base, even though I think he's defensively limited. Sunshine Superman, he's currently in AAA, but Donovan Walton has played a little bit of third base beginning in the minor leagues this year. pardon me, in spring training this season. He's not an option as a starter, where Dylan Moore and Ty France would be. But Donovan Walton can certainly fill in there if they need him to do that. I don't want to put a damper on this great offensive game. It was wonderful to see them explode like that, so to speak, and it was also great to see them not to have to rely on the home run,

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Bet online, your online sportsbook experts, promo code, Locked On. That's where I got screwed up, gang. Welcome back to Locked on Mariners. Here once again is your host, D.C. Lundberg. Thank you very much. Once again, J.M. going into the final segment today on Locked on Mariners. joining us for this final segment as Locked on Mariner's contributor and sometimes guest host, John Miller. John, how are you today?

I am doing fairly well. Thank you for having me. Always a pleasure having you on the show. I really enjoyed the conversation you had with Jason Hernandez last Friday about foreign substances on the baseball. And lo and behold, yesterday, Major League Baseball comes out with these new protocols and regulations. the timing on that could not have been better, and you guys had no way of knowing that that was coming around the pike.

So kudos for you for being a clairvoyant, as it were. But yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, Major League Baseball did announce that they were cracking down, so to speak, on Ford and substances on the baseball, which I assume means Swiss cheese and Tetsiki sauce and things of that nature. No. Players over the years,

it's kind of been accepted to use a little bit of stick-em. on the baseball to be able to, you know, control pitches a little bit better. But, and I'm going to quote an article from MLB.com, quote, but as pitchers have learned how to use substances to improve their spin rates, the issue and its effect on offensive performance has become much more pronounced, leading to this league intervention, end quote. Rule 3.01 in the rule book states, quote, No player shall intentionally discolor or damage the ball by rubbing it with soil,

rosen, paraffin, licorice, sandpaper, emery paper, or any foreign substance, end quote. I want to meet the guy who made it mandatory that licorice be included in that rule. I guess it's because it's sticky. John, there also are new rules put in place for pitchers who are caught violating these new rules. They're automatically ejected to the game. And they're going to be subjected to checks by the umpires throughout the game, so much for pace of play. But it's a mandatory 10-game suspension, and this is a new thing. The team is not allowed to replace them on the roster during that 10-day suspension, which leads me to ask John, why was it ever okay to replace

somebody on a roster during a suspension? That does not make any sense to me. And there are so many places we could go with this. I'm going to go one of those places right now, John, because I have something in mind. When the mayor still had Robinson Kanoe, and he was busted for PEDs the first time, they were allowed to replace him on the roster during his 80 game suspension, and they were even allowed to send him out on a rehab assignment during that suspension. Why is that okay? That should not be okay. I don't get it. And this brings up something that we have not mentioned yet, but while they're serving this 10-game suspension, which by the way, these rules have been in place for quite some time. The Rule 3.01 that you read, and also in Rule 6, this is not new. And the 10-game suspension

is also not new. And some of us may not have known some listening that while they're serving the 10-game suspension, they get paid. And this has gone out of the baseball realm. Basketball Hall of Famer Charles Barkley has commented on this and said that for breaking the rules, they get a 10-day paid vacation out of it. That's a good way to put it, and they should not be paid during the suspension. And for PED suspension, I believe those are unpaid where that portion of salary is donated to a charity. I could be wrong about that.

I didn't bother to look it up since it just popped into my head now. But you referenced Rule 6, and Rule 6.0.2. C and D prohibits applying any foreign substances to the baseball, according to this article from MLB.com. And further from this article, quote, use of sticky substances has been widespread and tacitly accepted by managers, players, and teams for decades as a means of reducing the slickness of the ball and improving control of pitches, end quote. Ryan Roland Smith had a good point on yesterday's pregame show. on television that the Major League Baseball is different from any other baseball that he had ever picked up and it was very, very slick. And that thing, I've never picked up a Major League Baseball before.

So I can only go on what Mr. Roland Smith was relaying in his report. And, you know, I'm kind of of two minds of this because I want pitchers to be able to have control. If the baseball's that slick and they're going to wind up having a bunch of control problems, that could lead to injuries if they're going to be hitting. batters left and right. I don't know if that's going to be the case, but at the same time, if they have found a way to use this to their advantage other than better control, that is a problem that needs to be addressed. Yes, John? Yes, it does. It starts with figuring out what we're going to do with the baseball prior to it getting to the pitcher so that we don't have to do this,

so that umpires are not turned into the equivalent of TSA agents or Leslie Neal. Gilson's character in the naked gun movies. Yeah, that's actually a very good point. And another point that Mr. Roland Smith brought up is that the baseballs are rubbed down with Delaware River mud prior to the game. He wasn't sure what type of mud it was. He thought it was Mississippi mud. It's Delaware River mud.

And each stadium is sent to ten of this stuff, you know, in advance. And then the umpire, is it the home plate umpire that rubs up the ball, John, or is it all four of them? At the minor league levels, it is the umpires that do that. At the major league levels, I believe it's probably a clubhouse attendant. Oh, okay. It might be the ball boy even or somebody like that. But that's done manually, so there's inconsistency with that.

And that was a point that Mr. Roland Smith brought up as well. Maybe they just need to rub down these baseballs officially with more of that mud so they, pitchers can have a little bit more grip on it. I don't know if that would help or not. I've never, in my experience, pitching, I've never used a rubbed up baseball. I've just used them, you know, straight out of the bin from Sports Authority or wherever, and they're not Major League Baseball, ladies and gentlemen. It's just the consumer grade stuff that you use as well.

So I cannot personally speak to that again. I can just only go off what professional Major League Baseball players, what their experience has been, and what they have been reporting. And one interesting side effect of this came within the last few days, John, and that involves Tampa Bay race pitcher Tyler Glasnow. He, like just about everybody else, was using a little bit of stickum on the ball, and he tried to go away from it, cold turkey, in his words. And he's going to be out a while with, I think, a torn UCL.

So we can see injuries among pitchers go up even more than we already have seen this year, and there have already been a lot of injuries, John. Yes, this is a situation that Major League Baseball is going to need to address deeper than just having the umpires check the pitchers. They're also responsible for checking the catchers. And any ball player that may be seen interacting with the pitcher in a suspicious way will say can also be checked throughout the game. And you did mention the pace of play. Well, they're trying to do that in between innings and stuff like that, but we'll see how that ends up. working out. I mean, that is a good point. They are going to do it in between innings and during

pitching changes and whatnot. But as the pitcher is being checked, that means that that's delaying when he can start throwing his warm-up pitches, just that much more. So that might delay the start of the inning a little bit. I was being kind of halfway facetious with that comment anyway, but it's still not a bad point. And you brought up a very good point also that catches or anybody else who may be found assisting pitchers in doctoring these baseballs are subject to that same automatic ejection and that same 10-day suspension. And if the catcher is caught, the entire battery is ejected from the game and they need to bring in a new pitcher and new catcher.

It's not just the catcher who's going to get ejected. The pitcher has to go along with him. Well, yeah, the pitcher is the one who's throwing the balls. And in this update from MLB, it's state the pitcher is the one who is ultimately responsible. That's not a bad point. Right. To me, it's kind of the equivalent of when a pitcher is found to be in throw,

intentionally throwing at a hitter or thought to be intentionally throwing at a hitter that the manager has to go to. That's in the rulebook. Yes. And unless you had some way of determining that the catcher was involved or signaling that he should throw at the hitter, then the catcher and other players are left alone and it's the pitcher and the manager that are ejected. Yes. Another thing about these new, I guess, protocols as it were, John, is that the pitcher can still use rosin. You know, the rosin bag is still going to be out there behind the mound, and he can go to that. I was wondering if you could kind of clarify how rosin can be legally used, because I'm not, I don't know if I'm 100% certain. So I would

like for you to be able to enlighten us. I believe the purpose for the rosin bag is to dry up the pitcher's hand. I believe so, too. It's not exactly for to allow him to get a better grip on the bowl. I guess having dry hands would allow a pitcher to have a better grip, but it's not a sticky substance. No, it's not. It is a dry... It's kind of akin to the chalk that gymnasts use. Exactly. That's a very good example, or for people that are into heavy weight lifting, they also use a similar chalk. Yes. And to dry out your hands, improve your grip, and pitchers are specialists in this, they know how much to apply and just whatever and when to go to the rosin bag. And they're allowed to go to the rosin bag as often as they feel necessary.

Is this correct, John? Or am I wrong? I believe so. And they are, of course, to then wipe it off on their pants or whatever so that this is not then getting on to the ball. And there's a similar rule in bowling. Bowlers are allowed. They use a rosin bag much like Major League pitchers do. and they'll pound rosen into their finger holes so they can get a better grip.

But they are required to wipe off the surface of the ball so there's no rosin on the ball itself. But that's more not to damage the lane or to get any residue on the lane. And if a ball is found to have a substance on it in bowling, they're not disqualified from the match. They just get a zero on that shot. Wow, I did not know that. And I don't know why I felt important to say that. I don't know.

Bowling, I guess, is on my mind. Because there has been televised bowling on again over the last couple of days, ladies and gentlemen. We need to run, John. But, you know, once again, I'm glad Major League Baseball is doing this. I think doing it mid-season could have some injury implications. And again, they're not talking about Gaylord Perry loading up the baseball with Vaseline or beer cheese or whatever he used.

Or making people think that he was loading up the ball with such substances, making all those motions going to his cap, going to his pants, to make the batter think that he was loading up the ball when in fact he wasn't. So it's kind of a psychological game, but we're running way behind time. I apologize, ladies and gentlemen. John, where can people find you on Twitter? I can be found on the Twitter sphere at Seattle Pilot 69. Excellent.

Go follow him. He's a great baseball man, and he really knows and stuff. He knows the rulebook inside and out. Real asset here on the locked-on podcast network, but I honestly wish more hosts would utilize him just for that reason. Tomorrow on this show, gang, we'll be wrapping up tonight's game with the Minnesota Twins. Maybe a sweep. We might be talking brooms up tomorrow, who knows.

Here with me to talk about the game will be Darren Stevens, Zordon, and a bug lamp. Please remember to download and follow Lockdown Mariners. I don't know why you say this thing. Look for us on any podcasting app that you can think of. The bug lamp should be a very bright guest. Anyways, also leave a rating in review. If your podcasting app of choice, so allows. I don't know. I made so many puns on Chris Flexen's name in A-Block that, I don't know, I guess bad wordplay is on my mind.

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