Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Freak Athletes and Sinker-Slider Combos Abound: Assessing the Mariners' 2023 Draft w/ Joe Doyle

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

The 2023 MLB Draft is in the books, so who better to talk about what the Mariners did than Joe Doyle of Future Stars Series? Ty and Joe talk about which of three Seattle's top-30 picks have the highest floor and ceiling, some Day 2 and 3 gems, what the Mariners could do at the trade deadline, and a whole lot more.Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!IbottaRight now, Ibotta is offering our listeners $5 just for trying Ibotta by using the code MLB when you register.Just go to the App Store or Google Play store and download the FREE Ibotta app and use code MLB.GametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase.FanDuelMake Every Moment More. Don’t miss the chance to get your No Sweat First Bet up to TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS in Bonus Bets when you go FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON.SleeperDownload the Sleeper app and use promo code LOCKEDON and you'll get up to a $100 match on your first deposit.  Terms and conditions apply. See Sleeper’s Terms of Use for details. Currently operational in over 30 states. Check out Sleeper today! FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Joe Doyle is back on the show to talk about the Mariners draft, what they could do at the deadline and more. Let's get into it. Locked on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors. It is Wednesday, July 12th, 2023. This is Tadine Gazzales for the Locked on Mariners podcast. Thank you so much for making us your first listen.

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as our social accounts is in the description of this episode. The MLB draft is over, so who better to talk about what the Mariners did than Joe Doyle? Let's check in with Joe. Please welcome back to the show Joe Doyle, senior analysts over at Future Star Series on the host of Overslot,

the MLB Draft Podcast. Joe, it's been a really busy last few days for you. And that's probably an understatement. How are you holding up? Doing okay. I've said this before, but my fingers are leather. I am no longer capable of giving a soft, gentle handshake, but here we are. We are past the draft. I saw you, you met some people in the Mariners community. That's pretty cool. Met some people just overall in the scouting community, all that. That sounds really, really fun. So, you know, tell us all about that. Tell us about your experience at All-Star Week. Last time we talked a couple weeks ago, you said you were planning on going to pretty much everything. How did that go? Yeah, I made it to everything but the futures game. I got to celebrate my wedding anniversary on the same day.

Thank you. Thank you. So that was the one event that I didn't go to, but I just thought Seattle did a wonderful job with every event. I thought the 2024 high school all-star game was fantastic. I thought it really represented the kids well. I thought the draft, the stage and the set and the media tent and the turnup for Seattle, the amount of people that came to just watch the draft from the Lumenfield seats and even down below in the general admission area was just awesome. I thought it was a good representation of the city. I thought the derby was a lot of fun.

I thought there was some really high highs with that. And all the players seemed to really enjoy that, except for the one kid that got hit in the face of the baseball that apparently has got a pretty good Shiner now. And then the All-Star game last night was just a lot of fun, man. Just a culmination of so much talent. And I thought it was kind of funny that Garrett Cole was like 92 to 93, like clearly just phoning it in for the ability to start two or three days from now. But yeah, hopefully Jordan Romano is okay.

I thought the whole week was pretty sick. And I thought it did a big service to Seattle. Yeah, I thought the game was really dope, especially towards the end with Julio, like the MLB script riders, like, you know, just came through it, right? Yeah. Unfortunately, they knocked it out of the park. Yeah, unfortunately, Julio wasn't able to win the game, but, you know, a nice little walk, even though he took like 96 down the pipe on a one-one count, but whatever. We don't need to talk about that. We don't need to talk about that.

Yeah. Let's talk about this draft for the mirrors. You look at the top. Three left-handed hitting high school players at 22, 29, and 30. You know, before I get your take on the players themselves, word on the street is both Colt Emerson and Johnny Farmello are going to sign for overslot. Do we have any idea how much that's going to be yet? I mean, I've got yes and no.

So I think, let's just put it this way. I think Colt Emerson is going to be a few hundred thousand overslot, and I think Tai Pete is going to be a couple hundred thousand under. slot. I don't know the number on Johnny Farmello. I know that it wasn't totally ironed out when they drafted him, but it seemed like it was going to be close. So I don't think, let's put it this way, neither one of Colt Emerson or Johnny Farmello should have totally hamstrung the Mariners down the draft. I shouldn't be any issues signing either one of those guys. Maybe I missed it. I want to, I just want to be careful before they sign that to like give anything

out. But yeah, everything should be good there. Again, maybe maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear Farmello linked to the mayor as much, if at all, until only a few days before the draft. And then it seemed like everyone had mocked him to Seattle. And then lo and behold, he goes at 29. So how did that all go down? Yeah. So a general calendar of events, the way that it works is about a week and a half, two weeks before the draft itself. All of the area scouts, all of the analysts will come into Seattle and they'll give presentations on all these players.

That takes place. And then following that three, four days later, all of the area. the national cross checkers and we'll call them executives come in and they give their two cents on all these players and generally what ends up happening is that is when boards start to be kind of reworked so while one area of the organization might not have loved johnny one might absolutely have fallen in love with him and so the final product the final board the way it looks at the end of the day is generally not set in stone until three four five days before the draft so that's when you start to see these teams connected harder and harder to specific players.

It's because that's when the Scott Hunters and the Jerry Depotos and the National Cross Checkers really start to give their two cents. So I'm assuming that's what happened. So Emerson, Farmello, Tai Pete, of those three, who would you say has the highest ceiling and how high is that ceiling? And who has the highest floor and what is that floor and why? I think Johnny Farmello probably has the highest ceiling just because it's difficult to find a guy that has double plus speed, double plus bat speed, is a left-handed hitting center field prospect.

Like, I'm not comparing him to this type of a player, but like it's the skill set that got Cody Bellinger to where he was so quickly, right? I'm not saying that Johnny Formello is going to be Cody Bellinger. They're very, very, very different swings. but it is a pretty difficult like profile to design in the lab for example so i'd say farmello's probably got the highest ceiling in terms of the what was the highest floor is definitely colt emerson i mean colt emerson was outside of maybe aden miller the top high school hitter for the last 18 months i mean he he hit velocity he hit spin he hit for team usa and the um you know PDP and everything like that.

So yeah, I think both of those guys are a really fantastic, like duality of safety and ceiling. And then Tai Pi just kind of somewhere in the middle. Like you don't know if he's going to pitch. You don't know if he's going to play shortstop. I would assume it's just shortstop. But the bat speed is really big.

Kind of back and forth a little bit with the hit tool. But, yeah, I mean, listen, I'll put it this way. If you're going to take three high schoolers in the top 30 picks and you want a smattering of safety and floor and upside and up the middle, like I think Seattle couldn't have done better. Yeah, I really, really love what they did in the first round, especially with how the board fell because, you know, there was some speculation. I mean, you talked about this quite a bit in your last couple of mocks

that maybe one of those college bats would fall to them at 22, but then, you know, Tommy Troy goes, Matt Shaw goes right after, Calteal goes right after that, Enrique Bradfield, a couple of picks later, So I felt for what ended up falling in their lap, I felt that they did a pretty good job. More for my conversation with Joe Doyle in just a moment, but first, a reminder of this episode of the Locked-on Marrace podcast

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For those that don't know, he's the Mariners Area Scout for Georgia and South Carolina. And if I'm not mistaken, this is his first year scouting for an MLB organization. And the Mariners took two of his players, including Tai Pete with their competitive balance around A-pick. Is that a rare thing for a first-time scout to have a player of his drafted that high? And if so, how rare is it?

Well, certainly not if you're scouting South Carolina and Georgia, I would say. Yeah, true. No, Terry's got two of the hotbeds. And, you know, the organization knew Terry long before he actually joined the organization. He was the coach and a leader for team elite. Like, he's been in the baseball community for a long time. I've known Terry since before he was in the organization, and he's always treated me well. So do I think it's rare?

Well, I put it this way. It's rare that a team has four picks in the top 60, right? So that inherently makes the chances of something like that happening higher than most. But to answer your question, I really just think drafting depends on what area, what region you have. Like if you have the Carolinas, you're going to get a ton of guys drafted. if you have Florida, if you have Georgia, Texas, like, you're going to have a lot of guys drafted. Like I look at, there's a guy up here in the Pacific Northwest, Tyler Wormouth, who handles Washington and Oregon and I think Northern California and Idaho.

Like, there's just not that much talent coming out of that region on a year in and year out basis. So the chances of him ever getting a player drafted are lower than like Georgia or South Carolina. So no, Terry's a great guy. He's a good talent evaluator, a good leader, a good coach. and congrats to him for landing such a haul and he's got to be pretty proud of his efforts this past spring. So the other drafty of McClure's was six-rounder Brody Hopkins, right-hand pitcher out of Winthrop.

And like Pete, he's a ridiculous athlete, like an absolute freak. You had him ranked, I believe, 107 on your board. They get him at 187. What do you think about that pick? I always tend to skew towards athletes. I think athletes are a multiple trait that you can't get in some other players. Like, for example, Tyler Locklear last year wasn't ranked wherever we picked him, wherever Seattle picked him, 64, something like that.

I had him in the 90s. Brody Hopkins, to me, is a guy that is a incredible mover on the mound. He needs to learn to repeat his delivery. He needs to learn to repeat his arm slot. And he just needs to learn to command the baseball. Like I think the strike throwing, I liken it to what Matt Brash was in 2022. Like he's an incredibly quick mover on the mound, gets down the mound fast, fast arm, big stuff. Needs to learn how to command this stuff.

And so, you know, he'll probably take the 2021 Matt Brash route where he starts at least in 2024. And he may ultimately get pushed into the bullpen. But I look at Brody Hopkins and the way that he moves and how green he is and his two pitch mix. and I see a guy that if he's in the bullpen will be 98 to 101 with a slider that's like 88 to 90 on a night in a night out basis. I don't know if it works as a starting pitcher.

I think he's athletic enough to do it, but he's so green that it's too early to kind of project that. So I think at worst, and this is just my evaluation, I think Brody Hopkins is the high leverage late inning reliever. Who could be in Seattle in 2024. I wouldn't shock me at all. A couple rounds. before Hopkins, the Marrists took another prep bat and Aidan Smith. What do you think about the player

and how much do you think it's going to cost Seattle to pry him from Mississippi State? I'm not even, I don't have any information on how much it's going to cost, but I actually didn't get my first look at Aden until the Combine. That was the first time that I had seen him. It was the first time that I wrote him up. You know, great body. I think he's going to hit for quite a bit more power than he is going to actually hit. There's bat speed there. There's some tinkering that I think that needs to be done with his swing. There's a little bit of a bar that comes through and it makes for inconsistent, you know,

barrels, if that makes sense. So I think they'll try to clean that up. But what a good frame. Projectable power. I think he's got a shot to stay in center field, but I would imagine just looking at that kid that he's going to add 15 pounds like overnight. So it probably plays right field. But yeah.

definitely he has the looks of an impact bat, a corner guy, just some small consistency and mechanical things that I'd like to see them change. But he was one of the louder performers, I think, at the combine. In the third round, the Mariners took right-handed pitcher Teddy McGrath out of Wake Forest, a guy who had first round buzz entering the year, but underwent a procedure on his elbow. It's been widely reported. He's had two Tommy John surgeries since his senior year in high school, but I've heard the most recent operation wasn't technically Tommy John.

Are you able to provide some clarity on that? And when do you think we could see him on the mound? Yeah, it's a UCL brace, which is pretty similar, frankly, to Tommy John. It's not just not a total reconstruction. It's generally an eight-month recovery, and then you've got to kind of take it slow. So, I mean, I think there's a chance that he pitches in 2024 red out of the gates. But, you know, with his injury history and with his pure stuff, Seattle might try and, you know, work with his delivery a little bit, change some things about

him before they send him out into Modesto or or anything like that. He's going to have to get ramped up, too. I mean, we're not talking about a guy that's throwing a whole lot of innings. So, but no, I mean, I talked with some scouts in January and February and this guy was, you know, up to 99. He was sitting 94, 95, 96. Slider peaked at 91. Like, it's just a hellish slider. So I would obviously give this kid the chance to start. He's a really good kid. I interviewed him over at Prospects Live on YouTube. if you want to, you know, take 15 or 16 minutes of that interview in. But Teddy's a good kid. He's a pitch design freak.

You know, he's all about that sort of thing. So I would expect to see him in 2024. I don't know when. But yeah, to your point, I had Teddy a top 25 or top 30 prospect in my top 300 board, I think, when that came out in February. So the armed talent is undeniable. The durability is the question. More from my conversation with Joe Doyle in just a moment.

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You're listening to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Thank you again for making us your first list. And I'm here with Joe Doyle, a future star series talking about the Mariners draft. Joe, the Mariners clearly had a type heading towards the end of day two and into day three, quite a few college righties with either a sinker or a high spin rate slider or both. Anyone from that group stand out to you? They're all the same.

They are all the same. We talked about that yesterday. Honestly, so similar. They are so similar. There is a lot of Kendall Gravemans, both in the delivery and the execution. And,

you know, I think Seattle's just trying to kind of corner the leverageable reliever market, which is a good thing to do. I mean, when you think about it, you can buy starting pitching and it's a good investment.

But, you know, you look at kind of the investments of like Juan Naccio and trying to avoid something like that or a, or one, Joaquin Benoit,

like spending that money, trying to avoid that by just having endless supplies of relievers. I do want to talk to Scott and Jerry, and I'm sure I'll do this over the next month or so. We'll see when it happens. I want to talk to them about whether or not they see a shift in the meta in Major League Baseball because for the last, what would you say,

five years, it's been carry through the zone out of a low slot and the sweeper. Well, this kind of, like you said, pointed to more like backdoor sinkers, front door sinkers, you know, sliders, like doing that, like doing that two seam tunnel that crosses like that. So I'll be interested to see exactly why they went so hard into that market. They drafted like five of them. I'll say we didn't talk a whole

lot about Ernie Day from Campbell. Ernie Day is a good arm. Ernie Day is pretty nasty and he's probably the most funky of the group. So yeah, I mean, it's a lot of high octane arms with unique traits and I think I would be stunned frankly if we don't see one or two of them on top prospect boards or in Seattle by you know April 2025 they're just they're they're pretty complete players I do think some of them will start like I think Brody Hopkins is going to get a chance to start I would expect Ty Cummings to get a chance to start although he has been primarily a reliever we'll see I'll be interested to see exactly how they deploy each one of them because almost all of them are probably relievers.

Right. It's really interesting because we've also not only seen the mirrors target this prototype in the draft, but also at the major league level, Justin Topa, obviously. That's the big one. I mean, yesterday on the show, we literally said all these guys are Justin Topa. Or Kendall Graveman is another great one, right? Yeah, so, yeah, definitely something to talk to Jerry and Scott there about. I want to talk a little bit about, you know, the,

current Mariners team and the upcoming deadline. But before we do that, is there anyone I haven't asked you about from the mayor's class that you think we should be paying more attention to? You know, I caught your guys' podcast. I don't know when this will come out, maybe yesterday. And Jared Sunstrom was a guy that you didn't know much about. And I'll tell you, I watched Sunstrom.

I didn't ride him up because he was the, you know, hulking corner outfield with huge strikeouts. 22 years old. I didn't write him up because I was like, if this guy goes, he goes. It's probably a day three guy. Some really interesting things about Sunstrom that I'll kind bring to your show. One of very, very, very few college hitters in college baseball this year that did not swing and miss at a single 92 mile an hour fastball or faster. So he's going to hit fastballs. He's got some work to do on the breaking ball. We'll put it that way. But yeah, massive massive Exit Velos, definitely kind of similar to what Spencer Packard was in terms of the model that they

targeted him out of. But yeah, just a hulking slugger. So he'll be interesting to watch. He's going to hit some diggers. A few months ago when I had you on the show, we talked about, you know, good names in the draft. We obviously talked a lot about Gino Groover, who I'm so disappointed as not a mariner. But, hey, shout out to the Diamondbacks, by the way. Great draft by the Diamondbacks.

Really love their draft. Really love what they did. Actually, on that note, real quick, what are your top five drafts? Oh, man. You know, I haven't even gotten to that yet. I will say Arizona, I thought, knocked it out of the park. I regret to inform you that the Houston Astros, I thought, crushed this draft. Baltimore had a very, very good draft.

I think I really liked Seattle's draft because they clearly went in with a plan and a model, and they followed that deep into the draft. So they did really nice. Cincinnati, I thought, did very, very well. I'll be interested to see what comes out of the Rett Louder situation because it does sound like there's an underslot situation there at number seven. But what they were able to move around in terms of money and get just dudes. I mean, one, two, three, four, five, six rounds.

Cincinnati was really, really good as well. So honestly, there weren't too many teams that I looked at their draft and said, I don't really know what you were doing here. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I thought everyone tackled this. pretty well. So again, on the note about names, there's quite a few names here with the Mariners. Obviously, Shrek, got Ryan Hawks, some good names here.

What's your favorite from this, from this Mariners class? It's the best name. Oh, the best name. I'm going to go, I don't even know who this guy is. So I haven't, I don't know who Charlie Paglioreen. is but I hope he's really good I have no idea Charlie Pagliarini is

maybe it's the surprise element that has me excited about it. You didn't know about Brailin Garcia as well right, the lefty out of Texas A&A now. How did you miss an SEC pitcher from Texas A&A? I don't know. He was a reliever. I don't know how I missed a lefty that's touched in the Slack the other day were pretty spot on. No, I just, I don't know. I just, sometimes

it's easy to overlook. You know, when I'm sorting through stats and pitch data and all this junk, sometimes it's easy to sort by the amount of pitches a guy is thrown because generally the top prospects are the ones that have thrown quite a few innings. I guess I didn't sort by Max philosophy enough because Brandon Garcia has pretty nasty stuff.

I love that. So before we get into what the Mariners could do at the deadline, The Astros are really banged up right now. The Rangers are really struggling. What do you think those two teams are going to wind up doing at the deadline? Well, the Astros have to add a pitcher. Just as a guy that can eat innings, I think Houston is in a weird spot right now.

You know, Al-Tube is busted it up. Yordon sounds like he's coming back. And whenever he comes back, I mean, when is the last time that guy came back from an injury and missed a beat? Like, they're going to be just fine when Yordon comes back. So I think with Houston, they need pitching. They need to be able to, you know, rectify. some of these bottom of the rotation woes that they've got so many rookies throwing for the Houston Astros right now.

And then the Texas Rangers, I think they're going to run away with this thing. That offense has not slowed down. I know that they've slowed down as a team a little bit, but they're still one of the best offenses in baseball. I mean, they had six starters or whatever in the All-Star game. There's too much talent for them to think that they would slow down for a considerable amount of time. I would anticipate that they're going to go pretty aggressive into the bullpen

pen market. So I think if you're Seattle, you know, you try to pass the Astros, you try to, I think the Angels are obviously drowning right now, but you try to pass the Astros and see if you can't make a run here toward the end. So, you know, the Marers are playing their best ball right now. They're four back of the third wild card. They're six back of the division. And, you know, I mentioned that the Rangers are kind of falling back to the pack as of now. We'll see if that continues. it obviously depends on how well the mirrors come out of the All-Star break, but how aggressive do you foresee them being on the trade market if they continue to play like this?

And who are some names or teams you think are a good fit? I personally think Seattle's trade approach hasn't changed from day one. Like, yeah, so if they were 15 games over 500 right now, you probably would see more, you know, three-month rentals. but I think their plan has always been to go and and Jerry has said as much, go after multi-year guys. You know,

the guy that stands out for me, I don't know what the Red Sox are going to do, but this team seems like it would really do well with a Justin Turner. I don't know what the no trade clause looks like. I don't know the specifics there, but Justin Turner added to this lineup for a couple of pitchers. You know, I think he's controlled through 2024.

So you throw a couple of pitchers to Boston. I think that would be a really good deal for Seattle. to try and tackle. But besides that, it's difficult to find a lot of matches, Ty. And I think you know that. Like, there's just not a whole lot of teams that are out of it right now. And because of that, you know, you're kind of handcuffed a little bit. So I would expect we're going to see more deals in 2023 that are like considerable pieces for

considerable pieces across the league. Like the prospects, like the strictly three or four prospects for a dude type of a move, there's just too many teams that are competing these days I just don't think it makes a lot of sense for a lot of teams right so it's you know to me it's either going to be that or it's going to be a lot more teams than we've seen in the past just standing pat you know do at a bare minimum essentially price tags are going to be a lot higher yeah it's really hard

because like right now I look at the standings that I go there's five teams that are clear sellers six teams and then yeah I mean like the teams that are just that don't have great records right now they're not really built to just sell they're built more so to retool this off season and go after it again next year so it's it's really really complicated it's a it's a mess um you know we've we've heard some rumors it's mostly john morosi pushing this that uh the marines and the cardinals could could line up in a trade you know pitcher from seattle for a bat from from st louis i don't know if you've listened to the show to the point where you've heard us talk about how

we just we don't feel that that's beneficial to the mariners in the short term or the long term really because it's just such a strength of theirs um and they well and also after emerson hancock i mean who do they have in the farm right now i mean michael morales maybe you know harran bow and i mean for for trade chips yeah yeah so is there a player is there a bat out there that you would consider trading a brian woo for so here's my issue you with the Brian Wu ideas. Yeah. I think if you're making the, I think if you're trading Brian Wu, you're trading him to another contender, right?

I, the other five teams that are out of it, they could use Brian Wu, but Brian Wu doesn't have too many innings left in him this year. Like I can't imagine he's going to pitch far outside of the month of July. So, yeah, like, for example, the Orioles. Like, I hear the Orioles all the time with Brian Wood. I'm like, that doesn't make any sense for that reason that you just brought up. I've talked about, like, specifically this winter, it makes more sense. But like Brian Wu for Jordan Westberg makes a lot of sense.

I think you'd probably need more than Jordan Westberg to get rid of Brian Wu. Maybe Joey Ortiz is thrown in or, you know, these may sound outlandish to Orioles fans. And that's fine. They're not serious trades. But in terms of like what one team needs and what the other team needs and what the other team is short on, like Jordan Westberg for Brian Wu trade makes sense. or maybe a Kobe Mayo for Brian Wu or like, you know, Walter Ford and another arm. Like I think the Orioles really match up well with the Seattle Mariners.

But like you said, I don't think any of those trades make any sense for either team in July. I think the Cardinals the same way. Tommy Edmund to Seattle makes a ton of sense. I don't know what we could give to the Cardinals that, you know, maybe they'd be okay with taking on Brian Wu and not pitching him for the rest of the year. I'm not sure. that doesn't really benefit Seattle either because then they're out of arms Tommy Malone is suddenly making eight starts

down the stretch. So I don't think Nolan Gorman makes a lot of sense for the Mariners. I don't think Lars Nupar. I don't think Seattle could put together a package that makes sense there. But those are the two teams that it does line up well like Baltimore and St. Louis, but I would expect it more this winter.

Right. Same. Well, Joe, thank you so much for hopping on again. Where can our listeners find you? Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Joe Doyle, M-I-L-B. You can find me at patreon.com slash overslot, and you can find all my draft coverage over at future starseries.com.

Thanks, Joe. Get some rest. Appreciate it, man. That's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Mariners podcast. I've been your host, Tadding Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L-O- underscore Mariners. You follow me at Dan Gonzalez, S-D-N-Z-L-Z, and Colby. That's my co-host. Over at CPAT-11,

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