Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Freddy Peralta BACK to the Seattle Mariners?! + Other Mock Trades | Fan Fiction Friday

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

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It's Friday, which means it's time to see what kind of Mariners trade you cooked up. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors, and it is Friday, November 28, 2025. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. You're listening to the Locked-on Marys Podcasts, part of the Locked-on Podcasts network. now the number one sports podcast network.

My name is Tadang Gazzalas, and I'm joined as always by my co-coes Colby Patnode. We're two lifelong Marys fans who've been covering the team for over half a decade. And on today's show, it's Fan Fiction Friday, where you submit your Marrish trade ideas and we grade them on the 2080 scale based on things like creativity, uniqueness, and, you know, if they make sense for all parties involved. Before we get into this week's trades, I want to shout out our title sponsor today, GameTime.

Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use the promo code Locked on MLB. That's L-O-C-K-E-O-N-M-LB for $20 off your first purchase. All right, so kicking us off here on Fan Fiction Friday is Mariners Fan 2412 who has a deal with the Milwaukee Brewers, Aaron Ashby, left-handed reliever, and Freddie Peralta, right-handed starter, of course, going to the Mariners for Michael O'Royle, Logan Evan, apostrophe us, and Durangelo Sanja. It's nice to talk about Freddie Peralta because it does feel like the odds of him, being moved this winter.

I've gone up fairly significantly over the last few weeks. You know, obviously you talk about, you know, the brewers are always a team that tries to get out in the last year of a deal, even if it's a good one because it's their last chance to maximize. And you kind of look at what the starting pitching market is done in free agency and on the trade market a little bit too. And it does seem like it's inevitable.

And Woodruff accepted his qualifying office. offer. I'm not sure why the brewers thought that was a good idea to tender that to him. But now that's $20 million or $22 million that the brewers probably don't really want to spend. That's a lot to spend on their rotation for a team that kind of constantly recycles it. And also, we should mention that today, the athletic reported that the brewers are apparently concerned about their 2026 payroll. So, and then that article, Ken Rosenthal, Katie Wu and Will Salmon, they did wonder if that meant that the brewers would trade for any Peralta, but also Peralta does not do that much money, so that wouldn't really save them a ton. No, the brewers don't have a lot of guys who are making a lot of money. So if they are that concern, they're going to have to trade a couple of different pieces, unless they can find a taker for Christian Yelich.

So maybe, but I kind of doubt it. So, yeah, Peralta's probably getting moved. So it's good to talk about him. And he's number two, number three, like really good pitcher, lots of strikeouts. You get him for one year. He's only making $8 million. So for a team like Seattle, especially if they can trade Luis Castillo, that's a tremendous bargain.

But they do have to be careful because, again, it's only for one year. And you might be able to recoup a draft pick by slapping the QO on him next winter if the QO lives on in the new CBA, which tough to say. And maybe that's why the Brewers are more willing to move him, even though he's only making $8 million, because they don't know if they're going to get the draft pick for him. So when you look at this trade in particular, I think you present this to the brewers and the brewers say, okay, what are you giving us for Aaron Ashby? because Ashby is a really good reliever, a left-handed reliever who posted this year. He had over a win of Fangraphs, or Fangraphs War.

And he's got four years of club control. Now, Ashby is making a little bit of money, so that might be a guy that the Brewers try and trade. Because, obviously, you know, here, they would clear about $15 million in payroll with this move. Ashby's 2007? I think. Or maybe seven was next year.

But either way, they're going to clear $12 to $15 million, let's call it this year. And then obviously, Ashby has another year club control after that. And then there are two club options on his contract. So, you know, the brewers really only need to trade two years of this guy. But they're going to ask for four years of control for the prices because they do have four years of control. Even if they don't intend on picking up those options. at the end of Ashby's 5.7, by the way, for this year. 13, 17 next year.

13, 14 million dollars. Yeah. So that's, you know, a bonus to them. But again, they're not going to give Aaron Ashby away just because he's making a little bit of money. They're going to want something for Ashby. And Logan Evan and whatever he possesses is, it's not going to get it done. So, yeah, it's, I think they look at this and they say, is that in the ballpark for what we want for Freddie Peralta? Sure.

I think that's probably in the ballpark. It's it's not too dissimilar from what they got for Corby Burns for one year, Corbin Burns. But when you look at the Aaron Ashby part of it, they're going to be like, okay, well, what are you giving us for Aaron Ashby? Sure. Yeah. It falls apart. I think the other thing, too, here is like, because Freddie Peralta isn't making just nothing for 2026, what, $8 million. Yeah.

given like what the starting pitching market has looked like so far on the free agency side of things even though it's only for a year of Peralta there's no club control beyond this this point that could get really expensive like a Royal and St. Joe is a really nice

package for Peralta that's a very competitive package but this winter could they actually get more for him even with just one year I don't know. I don't know. So that's really the biggest question that I have here.

And then the Ashby thing just kind of makes it fall apart for me. Just because I feel like it needs to be better than Logan. Because it's pretty clearly like Sanja and Arroyo are for Peralta. So that just leaves Logan Evans for Ashby. I don't think that gets it done. So, yeah. Honestly, I bet the Brewers would be like give us Gabe Spire. because he's like Ashby, but he's better and cheaper.

And at that point, if you're the Mariners, what's really the point? Especially if you still have Luis Castillo. Like, okay, we don't need the number five starter. This is a luxury buy for us. So, yeah, I think, you know, it's get a little greedy asking for Ashby, and that's where this deal kind of falls apart. But, you know, we hadn't talked about Aaron Ashby. And as a standalone trade target, I think that's probably somebody we should be talking

about. So I'll give you credit for that. And I will say the Freddie Peralta part is mostly on target, but when you combine the two sides, I think it drops down to like a 40. But like the overall components of the trade, like the what is Freddie Peralta cost? And, you know, is Aaron Ashby a good target that we should probably talk about a little bit more? Like that all works really well. So maybe a 45. Yeah, I was going to go 45 on this. You know, you brought up Ashby, who we haven't really seen on fan fiction Friday. And there's at least enough of a respectable offer here that I think it gets a conversation going and then you can like work on it from that point for it.

So yeah, so 45. All right. We will go over more of your trades here in just a moment. But first, a reminder of this episode of the lockdown errors podcast is brought to you by game time and doer. NFL season is back and there's nothing better than being in the stadium surrounded by fans. cheering on your team. But let's be honest, getting tickets can be a hassle between cues, login screens, and

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O-Line Coach C has a deal here with the Tampa Bay Ray's, Harry Ford, Felden, Selliston, Ty Pete, Michael Morales to Tampa for Yandi Diaz and Garrett Clevenger. And he said he would even go one more of Canzon, Williamson, or another pitching prospect not named Sloan Anderson, Sanja. Well, we're not going to fill in the blanks for you.

So we're just going to base your trade off of what you presented here. Ford, Solst and Pete, Morales, Tampa for Yonty Diaz and Garrett Clevenger. So what do you think about that deal? Ford, Felon, and Tai Pete. I'll make a lot of sense. We've heard the raise really like all three of the have liked all three of those guys at some point. I heard a murmur last year that Felon and Celestin was part of the ask for Yandi Diaz last winter.

Now, obviously, you had an extra year of club control then for Diaz when that trade was made, but Diaz, I believe, still has two years of club control because he signed some kind of extension with the club option. So it stands to reason after the year Yandi had that the raise asking price would remain similar. And I think that would probably be Felman and like Taipeet or Ford and Tai Pete for Yondi. Morales, whatever. He's Rule 5 eligible. I don't think they're going to trade for

him just so that they could lose them in the Rule 5 if he gets drafted in the Rule 5. But also they could just wait until after the Rule 5 and then trade him. That really was the thing. So maybe that's where the player to be named later comes in. And it's like, well, if they take Morales gets drafted, it will give you somebody else, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, so Ford, Felman, Tai Pi for two years of Yonty and three years of Clevenger. That's two years of Clevenger. Is Seda has three then?

I always get those two guys mixed up. I think it has four actually. Ooh. So let's go get your Seda. Who cares about it? Spilled out that 2028 bullpen. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, Clevenger fan graph says free agent in 2028. So that means two years left of club control. And then, yeah, you say this as free agent, 20, 30. So, yeah, he's got four years. Two years of each guy. We know that Yondi can hit. Like, that's not a, up for debate. Clevenger's very good.

So Ford, Celestin, Pete, and Morales for those two guys, two years each of those guys. It feels like you're, my hunch is, is that you're a little light. But I don't think you're far off. I don't think this is far off either, yeah. Yeah, I think it basically the way I look at this, it would be like Harry Ford and Michael Morales, for example, for Yondi. And then it's like Felnin and Tai Pete for Clevenger or flip them whatever, right? I think the piece, the fourth piece has to be a little better than Morales, but I don't know how much better. I think you're in the right ballpark here.

I feel like if this was Ford, Celston, Pete and McGraw, Teddy McGraw. yeah then maybe you're there yeah i think maybe because i don't know why i don't have any insight on this but it does feel like mcgraw is a Tampa bay raise type of guy so yeah i think you're pretty darn close uh this is about as much as i would be willing to go and feel comfortable about it for these two players uh so yeah i i think you're right in the ballpark again we're not going to do your your guesswork for you. So it's just with these four players. But I will say I don't think Canzone carries really any value to the raise.

Williamson, maybe, but they have Junior Caminero, so probably not. So yeah, I think you're your four guys here. I think you need a little bit better than Morales to get this across the finish line. But I think you're pretty close to what it would actually cost to get these two guys. So it's at least a 50. since you're like 55. Yeah, I was going to go 55 or 60, honestly. I'll knock you down because we've talked a lot about Yondi.

So no creativity. But, and obviously we talked a lot about Ford, making so much sense for the raise. So zero creativity, but. Ford P. We've talked a lot about Clevenger. Technically, very sound trade. So, yeah, 50, 55, somewhere in that range. I think you're right in the ballpark.

Yeah, I'll give you a 55. Yeah. next trade here from 509 hawk fin Terrick scubel and Kerry Carpenter to the Baroness for George Kirby Luke Rayleigh and Michael O'Royo. So we've talked about this in the past one year of scoble we would not trade anybody in the current rotation except for you know Louise but

we wouldn't trade. They wanted to do like a Louise thing like Louise plus prospects type of thing right for school then sure yeah yeah but as this trade is presented to us right now I'm not trading George Kirby for Luke Rayley straight up or sorry George Kirby for Luke I would do that I wouldn't do that rather which I always said George Kirby first yeah I would not trade towards Kirby yeah I would trade Luke Rayley for George Kirby yeah yeah um but yeah so like I still am not trading one of my four young younger starters for one year of Scoobble and Carpenter as much as I like the guy he's really just more and more expensive Luke Rayley I mean and by the way Kerry Carpenter did not have a good year despite what he did to you in the ALDS, he really didn't have that grade of a year. His on-base percentage was sub, you know,

300. His walk percentage dropped below 5%. Like, and obviously the, the struggles against lefties are still a real thing. He's also not a very good defender. Like he's Dom-Kan zone. He's just more proven Dom-Kan zone. And while you get him for three years, that is still a platoon player

that you get for three years, not an everyday, you know, 160 game type of guy. Yeah, basically what this trade ass us is is Carrie Carpenter enough to get you

to actually trade one of these guys in the rotation for Scoobel and the answer to me is no yeah I like Carpenter

just fine but again like I have Luke Rayley I have Domcan's own and while they maybe not be as good as Carpenter when Carpenter's like at his peak

and he's actually playing well they're not that far off especially a healthy Luke Rayley and so I would still be, I would still be given up, you know, three years of Kirby and Michael Arroyo for Scoobel. No, I'm not doing that. So, like, I'm still only interested in scoble in a prospect only swap, uh, obviously like Cole Young. I would count as a prospect, but whatever. Um, or if they want to take Luis Castillo and then we would get prospects, like that's the only major

leaguer I'm giving up for scuba. Like I, my, my assumption is that the thought process here is like, okay well you get scoble for this year and then by next year Sanja or Anderson Sloan sure yeah and like that makes sense in theory but also like you could just keep Kirby right and you get you know three four wins out of him uh total and then trade him next winter

for a package that will give you multiple years of multiple players who could generate like it just makes more sense to trade Kirby for a package than as a one-off for a rental player. It just doesn't make a ton of sense if you're the Mariners and Kerry Carpenter isn't enough to nudge me in the direction of being okay of trading George Kirby. So I'm out on this still.

As much as I like Carpenter, it doesn't do enough for me to talk about moving George Kirby for one year of school. Like it's creative. I'll give you that. This might be what it takes, honestly to get like you know to actually get the tigers to budge on school but it's just too too much for me too rich for my blood so i'm i'm gonna go also give you a 50 because i think the

trade itself is fine it's just from the mayor's perspective i i think that's just way too much much way too risky for them to uh yeah trying to is especially given what they're you know roster building model ultimately is if i felt a lot better about the mariners willingness to give scuba an extension beyond this year of course i would do this but i don't believe that they would do that so yeah i'm going to give it like uh i don't know 45 all right we're going to wrap things up here on fan fiction friday in just a moment but first reminder of this episode of the Lockdown Error's podcast is brought to you by Fanduel. The NBA is back and there's no better place to get in on the action than Fanduel,

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this episode. It's fan fiction Friday. Let's get back into your trades. We got another trade here from Mariners fan 2412. This one, a deal with guardians. Cade Smith, the best reliever in all of baseball last year by F4 or this year, 2035.

For Gerangelo Sanja, Michael O'Royle and Carlos Vargas. who's clearly just a throwing on this. So it's the same joint royal for Kate Smith, basically. The tricky part is that Kate Smith is still pre-arm. Yeah. And the Guardians have made the playoffs in back-to-back years.

They, and they did it this year without Claucet and Ortiz for, you know, reasons. And so they're probably thinking they can compete next year. And it's not that the Guardians wouldn't trade. I think the Guardians very likely could trade Stephen Kwan because he's starting to make some money, not because they want to get out from under it. And the Guardians are truly a cheap franchise. They are a team that does not like to spend at all. They don't pretend to be a mid-market team.

They like to get rid of guys before they hit free agency. They're like the Brewers, only they spend less and they're not quite as good at it as the brewers are. But they're still pretty good. So for that reason, a guy like Kwan would be moved. But when you get to the pre-arb guys, particularly the pre-arb guys who are worth a win, two wins, three wins, like the Guardians just don't trade those guys. And because they're going to try and compete in a bad, you know, A.L. Central next year, then I don't see them trading their, arguably their, you know, most desirable trade piece before he's even arb eligible. I just don't see that as being the case here. So I don't think he's actually going to be available this winter.

and even if he was for four years of this guy I mean like Mason Miller got this what second or third best prospect in all baseball yeah yeah so I was I was gonna say independent of everything that you just said this isn't enough like we're talking about a guy that's been worth almost six F4 in his first two seasons

as a reliever in Major League Baseball he's pre-arb like he why wouldn't he get you a top 10 prospect in all of baseball because that's what edwin diaz got the mirrors that's what mason miller got the a's yeah i mean you basically have to believe that the guardians who do sometimes trade for bulk like it's not like they don't go for bold yeah but this feels it feels like cold emerson here yeah this feels like colt emerson or bust like yeah and i'm out perspective yeah i'm not trained colt emerson for any reliever um so yeah i just don't think this is enough i i think this is a trade that

sounds aggressive to us, but I think if you asked a, a Guardians fan or just the Guardians themselves, they would be like, no, we wouldn't even consider that because Kate Smith has only costing us, you know, I'm sure we got one of the bonuses because of his performance, but it's only cost us like a million five. Yeah. Like, we have them for four years and we still plan to compete next year. Can we interest you in Stephen Kwan instead for these two prospects? That's probably what they would do.

to me it's cold emerson or maybe kate anderson as the the headliner here and if it's not one of those two guys then i don't think you're getting kate smith no and i suppose it's possible that the the guardians could really like ryan sloan but then you're probably still also giving up like arroyo in that deal and i don't know maybe the again beauty's in the eye of the beholder maybe the guardians love michael arroyo maybe they love gerangelo sanja and we don't know that but Maybe they do. And maybe because they're getting both of them, they're like, okay, we think we can do this because we're really good at replacing bullpen arms. So let's do this.

And I don't know, maybe they think Carlos Fargo is going to be something. That's a lot of maybes and, you know, ifs in this trade. And I just think that ultimately, Cade Smith is going to get at least what Mason Miller got. He's going to get at least what Edwin Diaz got. And that is, you know, in the case of Edwin Diaz, you actually got a top 10 prospect and a top 50-ish. prospect so yeah i do think it's going to be at least the mason miller thing which would be a top five prospect which would be colt emerson and i'm out so uh interesting thought process uh but i think i got to give it a 40 yeah i'm going to give it a 40 as well all right last trade of the

day here uh comes from aden it's a fascinating one for one with the rangers of all teams Wyatt Langford, so four years of White Langford for two years of Logan Gilbert my initial reaction to this is I would not do this but it's fascinating I think I would do this so it's close you know obviously you're banking on a little bit of

upside that Langford still hasn't quite hit yet but we're talking about Wyatt Langford four win player last year and that's without you know I think he's got 30 home run power. I think he can steal 30 bases. It's a pretty good defender. Mostly in a corner, although he can't play some center field.

Like 241, 344, 431, 118 WRC plus, basically Randy Rosa Rana last year as a 23-year-old. You get him for four more years. I think this is like what it would take for me to consider trading

Logan Gilbert would be a Wyatt-linkford-esque piece. It's a Riley Green-esque type of player. Like that's what I would want for Logan Gilbert if I was going to trade him to slinger. Now, could the mirrors get that? No, probably not. I think the Rangers would look at this and be like, you know, the four, the extra two years of Wyatt Langford probably matches our timeline a little bit more than the next two years with Logan Gilbert. Plus, the Rangers are looking to shed some money.

And Logan is already ARB eligible. And he's already going to make what is his ARB number this year? Do you remember off the top of your head? 10 flat here yeah yeah so you know i like i suppose if they trade avaldi or or jacob to grom could they then pivot maybe but i think ultimately like the rangers are going to say no to this because it just doesn't fit well with kind of their timeline and how they're trending over the next couple years my guess is that the rangers you know they're going to end up i think they're trading either seger or avaldi or uh or to grom this i think they want to trade one of those what what is their

timeline though because the brand and nimmo trade is just so weird right because like we talked about we talked about this on our patreon the other day like they get financial relief in the short term but long term they actually have added more future payroll by bringing in memo like so are they trying to compete this year because like nimmo is a better player than marcus simian right now they're not significantly pure value yeah like not significantly like obviously simian's bat has fallen off a cliff, but he's still a really good defender. Nemo's a better hitter.

I would just say that right now, like overall, I would give at the very least a slight advantage to Nemo being the better player right now than sending him. But like what do they want to do right now? So like does Logan Gilbert with two years left actually makes sense for the Rangers? Especially when they're going to give up a guy who's pre-arb for this year and Wyatt Langford. I don't know. And then from the Maris perspective, it's like cool.

Like Laneford's a really good play. player he's basically Randy at Rose Rana with actual good defense but he's also 20 30 but also like he's a corner out he would be a corner out failure for you sure and Logan's like the one guy that you feel like at least from the outside looking in it feels like he's the most likely to sign an extension with you right now so like don't you have future plans for Logan Gilbert beyond his two years left so like I just I don't know what does his elbow say about those plans well that's the thing but but then you know the same yeah yeah exactly right so like are the you know with the elbow concerns are the Rangers going to trade Wyatt Langford for him no like I said I would

do this deal if I were the Mariners I don't think the Rangers would do it for a plethora of reasons not the least of which is I don't think Logan fits their timeline better than White length for it but also i really can't pinpoint what the rangers timeline what they're shooting for is so i have no clue it's a fun thought exercise it certainly is there's no question about that yeah and again like this is what it would take for me to move logan this winter uh it would be white lankford it would be a riley green it would be somebody like that like legitimately somebody like that and you know could you get that for for logan gilbert two years of logan gilbert i don't know probably not but like that's what it would take for me to be interested in moving

him this winter. So I give you credit for finding an interesting, you know, trade. It certainly is thought provoking. It is a good discussion to have because, you know, we talk about like, hey, like, what could, what even is the, the Logan Gilbert, you know, what even is fair to ask for Logan Gilbert? This, this is pretty much what's fair to ask for whether you get it or not is a different story. But yeah, I'll give you a 45 because I think this is really interesting. I just don't think it's feasible yeah no i'll give you a 50 it's creative all right that is going to do it for our show thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown merrists podcast part of the lockdown podcast network your team every day for colby pat note i'm tennig gzalas be sure to give us a

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