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Episode Date: November 7, 2025

Could Lars Nootbaar and JoJo Romero be the boost the Seattle Mariners need? Ty Dane Gonzalez and Colby Patnode analyze creative trade proposals, debating the risks and rewards of targeting bounce-back candidates like Nootbaar and evaluating the impact of prospect-for-veteran deals. The hosts scrutinize trade ideas involving coveted targets including Joe Ryan, Tarik Skubal, Freddy Peralta, and Hunter Greene, questioning whether the Mariners should gamble top prospects and core rotation arms for short-term upgrades.Check out our Patreon!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Follow the show on Bluesky: @lockedonmariners | @tdg | @mlbcolbySupport Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!PrizePicksDownload the PrizePicks app today and use code LOCKEDONMLB to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.PrizePicks — Run Your Game.Click Link Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONMLBGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONMLB for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelToday's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. The NBA and NFL seasons are here, visit the FanDuel App today and start planning your futures bets now.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's fan fiction Friday. Let's see what trades you cooked up this week. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, Sailors. It is Friday, November 7th, 2025.

This is Taddenk, Gis, and Colby Pattonode for the Lockdown Marrists podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. It's Fan Fiction Friday, the show where you submit your marriage trade ideas. and we grade them on the 2080 scale based on creativity, uniqueness, and of course, if they simply make sense for both clubs. Before we get into your trades, though, shout out to our title sponsor today. Fan duel. Right now, new customers can bet just $5,

and if you bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. Download the FanDuel app today. Tyler's going to kick us off here on Fan Fiction Friday with a deal with the St. Louis Cardinals, Lars Neup Bar and Jojo Romero, shoe the Mariners, for your hair bot. Batista and Tai Pete. My thing is, I'm not sure how to evaluate this trade because the two prospects of Marys are giving up are high upside, but probably both at least a half a decade away.

I mean, Pete may be three years away. Batista probably four or five. And they're interesting prospects. They have loud tools, but they might be nothing. And so I don't know what the Cardinals are going to think of these guys, because they are are rebuilding. We know that. They pretty much come out and said that we need to reset things. But this could be a drastic overpay. This could be, you know, you could get laughed off the phone by this. I don't think you will because Romero's a rental. Newbar might be two. Newbar got two years left.

He's got two years. Yeah, I was going to say I couldn't remember. But anyway, so yeah, this is an interesting trade because I'm not quite sure how to evaluate it because I, I don't think Lars Newbar is, is, like a great idea. Like if he's like the last piece you put on the puzzle at the end of the offseason, fine, whatever. But I don't know that he's a drastic upgrade over what you have right now in the outfield, especially coming off the season that he's coming off of. And I just feel like maybe I could use Batista and Pete somewhere else. But Romero's interesting and Newpar is, you know, still a major league quality player. He's had a bad year this year. Year before wasn't all that good. And so I do wonder, you know, what's the upside of acquiring him? I guess really what I'm curious about is like, what's happened to his arm?

Because he used to have one of the best arms in the league. And while the arm strength is still there, I'm looking at his Sivan page right now. The last couple of years, he's been bottom of the barrel in arm value. 2022, he was 99th percentile in arm value. This past season, he was fourth percentile. What happened? Yeah. I mean, again, don't follow the Cardinals.

but yeah that would have to be an injury of some kind so maybe the injury also impacted him at the plate because you know a 20% drop in offensive production in one year at 28 years old is noteworthy yeah so I don't it feels like there must have been an injury there that either went underreported or we're just missing but yeah that that is that is a concern has to be this is a bounce back that I'd be willing to pay this price for I'm down with it plus Romero's like a solid left-handed reliever yeah I'm actually totally fine with this trade I mean Nupar has some tools that I think the Marys would really like obviously he's the guy that doesn't strike out a ton he has been able to get on base quite a bit in

the past obviously this year notwithstanding but this year it was a down year and in pretty much every category for him. Except for really the walks. I mean, he walked at his second to lowest career rate, but he still walked 11% of the time while striking out just 20.4% of the time. His bat speed actually went up this year as well. I don't know.

I just kind of wonder if maybe there's a bounce back here. So, yeah, I'd be willing to pay this price to take a shot on that. Because, I mean, like, Bautista and Pete are, like, the lottery tickets of all lottery tickets. Yeah. are. What are you giving this for a grade-wise? I think I'm giving this a 55. I'll give it a 45. I wouldn't be like upset if the Mariners made this trade. It's just I think if I'm going to, you know, throw out some lottery tickets, I would like to have something a little bit more safe than Lars Newport coming off of

his worst year, you know, with a 60 WRC plus against lefties this year, uh, who apparently might have an injury. Like we don't know what's going on there. It's weird because the mayor's had their own kind of thing like that with Cole Young. We're just like, what happened to the arm strength? That's gone. So yeah, this is interesting. Like I said, I wouldn't be upset if they made this trade. As long as Newpar is like the third or fourth piece they bring in to the offense. And, you know, if they obviously I'm counting like if they bring back Naylor and Polo, then Newpar can be the third or fourth piece. He doesn't have to be the new piece. And then Romero is probably an underrated part of this. He's pretty darned.

good. Newbar had a rib injury that he was playing through this year. Okay. That doesn't seem too serious then. Yeah, he also had a heel thing that he had to get surgery for at the end of the year. Okay. Nothing elbow, shoulder,

nothing like that, so. And apparently he's dealt with discomfort in both of his feet for over the past two and a half years. Well, now this is starting to pile on a little bit. So this feels more like a chronic thing, not just a bad year thing.

It feels like he's trending in the wrong direction, but I'd still give it a 45-50. Like, I think it's a fine shot to take. I think Jojo Romero is actually the real prize of this trade. And New Bar is just kind of the lottery ticket that you're hoping bounces back. And yeah, you know, yeah, I'll go 50, solid 50. There you go. There you go. I was focused on Newport.

There you go. I was focused on Newpar and he's like, but Romero's really good. So, yeah. Yeah, yeah, had some walk issues this year, but overall, like, yeah. Second lefty. Yeah. He also kept the ball in the park, which was a little bit of an issue for him in 2024.

But this year lowered his home run to fly ball rate from 15.4% to 4% this year. Yeah. And again, a couple lottery tickets who may or may not ever sniff the big leagues. It's a pretty good price. Yeah. 50. Yeah. All right.

Mariners fan 2412 has a deal here with the twins. Brooks Lee and Joe Ryan from Minnesota heading to Seattle for Felon, and Celestine, Ryan Sloan, Johnny Farmello, and Tai Peet. I think you could argue that Celestine, Sloan, and Farmello would just be the price alone to get Joe Ryan. So is Tai Peet enough to get Brooks Lee? No. I don't think Brooks Lee belongs in this trade. Yeah.

Because I look at Brooks Lee and it's like, okay, look, I already have Cole Young. I have Emerson. Lee, I guess, could play third base for me, but like, whatever. I just, I don't think that lead needs to be in this deal. Joe Ryan is interesting, though, because we've talked about this, you know, if the mariners are actually interested in Terrick Scuba, and their plan is to be aggressive on Terrick Scuba. Now, we don't know that's their plan or not, but obviously, you know, Adam Jude pointed it out and Buster only pointed it out, unprompted. So there's definitely smoke to the scuba thing. But if you're interested in scuba, then in theory, you should be interested in other pitchers because you're kind of saying,

like, hey, pitching is a need for us. So maybe it's that, you know, scoobo is so good. They're willing to make an exception. That's definitely possible. But it feels to me like the Mariners are looking at this going like, hey, you know what? We could use like a front line starting pitcher to go with this, you know, big collection of arms. So if they trade Luis, I do think maybe they do look at the Joe Ryan types and the Freddie Peralta types and guys like that.

So this is really interesting. But, yeah, Brooks Lee, I don't think. you're I don't think you're getting him in this deal. And I don't know if he makes a ton of sense for the Mariners. Just because you have Emerson, you have Young. So Lee, I guess could play third. But I believe I've heard the Mariners like Brooks Lee from somebody before. But I can't remember off the top.

Yeah. So like if you remove Brooks Lee from this, does this get you Joe Ryan? Probably. Yeah. I mean, it certainly gets you in the conversation at the very least. We're talking about three top 100 prospects and a lottery ticket like Ty Pete. Yeah. You might argue that the mayors are overpaying for Joe Ryan at this price,

although I think this is about what it would cost. So this is a really interesting trade. What are you thinking? Because of the mostly element, it's going to lose points. I do think this would be a very. competitive offer for Joe Ryan alone though probably one that I think we can get it done but I'm not the twins so who knows so I don't know I'll go like 45 do you remember how many years of club control Ryan has is a two or three it's two more I believe we talked about him yesterday right yeah it was yesterday that we talked about the central yeah he's got two more Yeah, so two more years. Let's see.

And what he's going to make this year, MLB trade rumors wasn't being stupid. Yeah, I got up for him. 5.8. Okay. So he's going to make about $6 million this year, which means next year he's probably only going to make 10 to 12 in the final year of arbitration.

Honestly, this offer is not too far off of the Garrett Crochet. offer for the same amount of club control. So I think you could argue without Brooks Lee, this is an overpay for Joe Ryan. So I think there's a lot of good pieces here. I think this is a really good starting point. You can kind of like, you know, take this guy out, add this guy. Maybe you get Trevor Larnick back in this deal or maybe you get, you know,

Royce Lewis back in this deal. I think Brooks Lee is probably a guy the twins want to give a lot of playing time to this year and just finally see what they have there. So I don't think they would move them in the deal like this. but that's a lot of high upside talent to get for two years of a starting pitcher. So, yeah, I think I'll probably give it as it sits right now with Brooksley included, I think it's probably like a 40, 45 if you took out Brooksley, then this is probably a 50 and it's only not higher because it might be an overpay by the Mariners.

But yeah, I think we need to spend more time talking about Joe Ryan and the Freddie Peralta's and other starting pitchers if the Mariners are in fact going to be in on scoble because that tells me something. Yeah, McKenzie Gore. About their rotation. Yeah, yep. All right, we got a few more of your traits to go over here in just a moment,

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We have a Patreon. It's called Control the Zone. And on there, we talk Mariners, Seahawks, all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com for it slash Control the Zone. Link in the description. It's Fan Fiction Friday. get back into your trades will has a deal with uh the tigers uh george kirby and feldon celestin for terrick scubel i'm out i'm out yeah i'm out yeah yeah love school but uh yeah three years of kirby and a

high upside prospect like felon sellison uh too much like i mean we talked about this yesterday like would would we trade or wednesday i forget when it was would we trade two years of logan gilbert for one year of terrick scubel i think it's an interesting conversation but I wouldn't do it. So I wouldn't do three years of Kirby plus a prospect, a really good prospect for Scoobel. Would Scoobel help? Yes.

Would he be better than Kirby? Yes. Right? Like undeniably, yes. The problem is that this is an allocation of resources problem. Is your rotation, or really the question is, do you think your rotation is better than it showed this year?

my answer is yes and if that is the case how much more value are you going to get from adding scubel versus Kirby you're going to get more no question about it but is that worth in losing scubel and then having to replace George Kirby

and I know people are going to say well you have Katie Anderson well you have Sanjay you have no idea of those guys are going to be good and if they are good you have no idea when they're going to be good and pitching is expensive on this market this is kind of the move where it's like we went all in. Okay, cool.

If you lose, if you don't win the World Series, this trade's really not worth it. Like, I don't want to trade any core players for one year of anybody, even Terrick Schuble. And Kirby is, for now, still a core player. Like, I'm not trading Gilbert. I'm not trading Julio Cal, Kirby. It might be it.

Or Brian Will. I'd be more interested, honestly, in trading four years of Bryce Miller than three years of George Kirby, and I probably wouldn't do that. So I understand like the, hey, you got outbid teams, but this is why I don't think the school thinks all that realistic because the Mets have young MLB ready arms that they can offer. The Red Sox have young MLB ready arms that they can offer. The Mariners do not. So that's why you have to give up a Kirby, at least that's probably the rationale here. You have to give up Kirby. I'm not giving up a top prospect on top.

I wouldn't do Kirby for Scoobles straight up. I'm certainly not adding an upside prospect, which is what I was saying. Yeah. Yeah. So for me, like I'm just, I'm not interested.

This is the price. Is this what the Tigers tell me the prices? I'm out. Yeah. I'm out. Yeah. I'm going to go talk about, you know,

Freddie Peralta. I'm going to go talk about Joe Ryan because I think I can get those guys for prospects. Yeah. So I'm out on this. if the Tigers want to talk about a prospect heavy package, I am more than willing to engage on that front. I'm not trading for my current rotation unless it's, you know, Luis Castillo.

I'm not trading for my current rotation to get Scoobel. It's just, it's not worth it. Which I do wonder if you could do a Castillo and prospect package for Scoobel if the tigers are wanting to stay competitive. Yeah. Because the money isn't that different. Scoobble, I think, is projected to make 18. Yeah.

Where MLBTR has them at. So, and Castillo's at 24 now, do the Tigers want to commit to 24 for each of the next two years? Plus, there is obviously the vesting option. I don't know. You can pretty easily work around. But, yeah, maybe. I don't know. Because, like, is there a hang-up actually paying anybody?

Or is it that they don't want to give Scoobal eight years? and be on the hook for, you know, all those, his age 32 through 36 season at $35, $40 million a year. What is it? Because the Tigers used to spend a ton of money back in the early 2000s. Like pretty recently they actually spent a lot of money. Lately, they've been pretty darn cheap. And it's a lot of like one year deals when they do go sign guys. So is that just an outlier or is it just because of their bill that's where they ended up in the cycle?

or is there this new idea that like let's not commit long-term big money to free agents like we did with Miguel Cabrera, you know, which worked out pretty well for them. I don't know what they're complaining about. But if it is just about more of the long-term commitment, then Castillo might be of interest to them. So maybe there's something there where it's Castillo and it's Felon and it's, you know, Farbello or whatever, maybe. But I'm not giving up Kirby, Wu, Miller, or Gilbert for one year of Scoobel. Yeah, so this Kirby Selson for school deal gets 30 for me. It's a non-starter. Yes.

I don't think it's, I don't think that like the Tigers wouldn't ask for this, though. Like, I don't think it's one of those things where it's, it's a low grade for me. It's like a 30, 35 for me too. But it's not because I think like this is, I'm trying to how do I word this? Like, you think the tigers would. actually ask for something like this. So like it's a realistic counter offer. Yeah. Yeah. But the Mariners should have no interest in making a trade like this. And I certainly myself don't have any interest in making a trade like this. So that's going to lower the grade.

But I do think from the Tigers perspective, I can see them asking for this year. All right. Next trade here from Ham Swirety, 69. Bryce Terang and Freddie Peralta from the Brewers for George Kirby, Cole Young, and Carlos Fargus and says in theory, you swap club control with the young and Terrang. Peralta is better than Kirby, but Kirby has more club control than Peralta. Is Freddie Peralta better than George Kirby? I think they're in the same tier.

Like, I think they're basically the same guy in terms of value. What's not remotely similar is three years of George Kirby versus one year of Freddie Peralta. And I, like, I'm not a huge Bryce Tarrang fan. I know he's a good player. Like, I know he's a good player. I just to me it really again

it's one year of Cole Young for one or sorry six years of Cole Young for one year Freddie Peralta right and then it's Kirby for Terang like that's kind of how you have to look at this trade I'm not giving up George Kirby for Terang I just don't think there's enough around the bat

for me to make that trade and I'm not giving up six years of Cole Young for Freddie Peralta I think again, this is one of those cases where it's like, I would like to deal prospects. Now you could probably argue like, okay, but if you're willing to trade Michael Arroyo,

why aren't you willing to trade Cole Young? Fair, that's fair. But I don't think that this is a deal that I'm all that interested in. And I think it dies for me, honestly, at Kirby for Turing. I think it makes you a better team in 2026. I just think that it's irresponsible long term, though.

It's just tight, do you think based on his career do you think Terang is going to hit 288 this year in 2026? Oh, I think he's probably like a 110, 115 WRC plus bat. I think that might be push on

like on his high end. Yeah, yeah, high end. I feel like 124 is probably an outlier. Like he's probably like he probably winds up being somewhere between a 105 to 115 most years. I like if I had a bet I would say he's closer to 100.

than he is to 120. And that's fine because again the defense. You know, he also stole 50 bases in 2024. Yeah. Drop down to 24 this last year. I just don't know how to,

I just don't know what to feel about Bryce Durang. I feel like there's a major regression coming and he's still going to be good, but there's a big regression coming. So I don't know how to, I don't want to pay 20, 25 prices for Bryce to ring right now. If he does this again next year, All in.

Yep. Let's do this. Makes a ton of sense. But it would just one year of being like a good hitter of sample size. It's a little risky for me. It's a little rich. Yeah. I'm going to go.

I'll go 50. It's creative. I just, I'm fine with it short term for the mariners. I just don't really like it long term for them. So that's why the score isn't higher. And I don't think it's something the mirrors would do. No.

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What's up, Jayquah? Marys acquired Brandon Lau and Yondi Diaz from the race for Tai Pete, Michael O'Royle, and Tyler Guff. So I don't think this is enough for both Diaz and Low. Now, it's one year for each of those guys, I believe. Each guy making $11 million. Yeah. So that also has to be a fair. fact you here, especially from the

raised side of things, because obviously, I mean, they just decline Pete Fairbanks as a love a million dollar option. So, you know, the raise, as we all know, they don't like spending that much money. So if you can help them get $22 million off of their books, that may lower

the trade cost at least a little bit here. But LOW and Diaz, both very good players when they're healthy, that qualifier more applies to Lowe than Yandi, of course. but but yeah I mean a royal really good prospect

Pete who knows how teams feel about him and guff I'm pretty sure is hurt right now so the rays liked Pete but that was a couple years ago as far as I know yeah and yeah and again I don't know if guff is

yeah guff had Tommy John surgery this year so guff is like a fourth piece yeah it feels like you're missing you need somebody better than Pete. Basically, you need to push Pete to be the three and Guff to be the four.

Now, we know that the race really like Harry Ford and they desperately need catcher help. Obviously, then you would need to go get a backup catcher, but you did draft Luke Stevenson, so it's not like you're going to be without a long-term catcher,

you know, obviously you have Cal. But like, you know, you still want that other guy who, you know, maybe one day can push Cal to first base or D. more consistently. So Stevenson should move relatively fast, but he is a catcher.

So it might take a little bit longer, even though he's a college guy. So you might throw a forward in here and it might make sense. What I'm interested to see about the raise, and this is kind of why I think something like this is more realistic. Like, they didn't pick up Fairbanks option. And they could have traded him. There is no doubt they could have traded him. And they chose not to. which is interesting to me.

It tells me that maybe the race are getting ready to go as young and as cheap as possible. And when you look at the American League East, three playoff teams this year, including the World Series runners up, you have Blue Jays, you have Red Sox, you have the Yankees.

You're probably not catching any of those teams. Baltimore depends on what they do this offseason. And is Baltimore going to bounce back after what was a down year for them without question. Like, yeah, like Tampa might be looking at this being like, look, we're not going to compete in 2025 or sorry, 2026. And let's just dump Fairbanks.

We're not worried about what we can get in return for them. Although that's so weird to me still. Yeah. But whatever, whatever. So if they do, then they can dump Lao. They could dump Yondi. They can get young talent back. They can clear the $22 million of payroll off the books.

Maybe they use that to try and extend like a Jonathan Aranda type. Did you sign an extension? I don't think so. But anyways, the race have a lot of infield, young infielders they want to play. They also have Aranda for first base. They have Trey Morgan, who they like for first base, which means Aranda can play D.H as well. So it does feel like they should trade these guys. And the Mariners, it just so happens.

Both of those guys fit current Mariners. needs. Mayors need a second baseman. They need a DH. Hey, one's a lefty, one's a righty, allow a little more power.

Diaz a little bit more, you know, like doubles and stuff like that, a little more contact. Makes a lot of sense. Like, it really does. And I do think that the rays

are probably going to be trading both of these guys this winter. And just the Fairbanks thing kind of makes me believe that they might be like real sellers. Anybody making money might be on the move this winter. But I think this trading, This trade in particular, to me, it needs like a Harry Ford.

It needs like a Felon in Celestin. I think something like Arroyo and Celestin because they probably want like one guy to be really high upside, but a couple years away. It's just kind of how the race built. They like to have these waves like the Mariners do. So I think if you put Felonin in this deal, it's probably a 55, 60. Yeah. Yeah. I think as it sits right now, it's probably a 40, 45 because it's just a little bit too light.

Yeah. Yeah. I think you're one piece short here. One substantial piece short. Yeah. So I'll go 45 on this one. Yeah. It's close, but it just a little bit more.

I think Celestine is the guy here too. Maybe Harry Ford. But then at that point, I think it's like, well, take out a Royo and put forward in Celestin. Like to me, the race feel like a Celestin destination. Sure. So, yeah, maybe I'm wrong. But yeah, it's solid.

It's a good starting point. You're just one piece. off, I think. All right. Last trade here from Switch. Uh, y'all are going to get a lot of scubel box. Yep. We are.

Yep. Uh, so let's do something unique with another ace. Seattle acquires Hunter Green and Connor Phillips from the Reds for Bryce Miller, Matt Brash, Ryan Sloan, Cole Young and Johnny Vermello. Oh my God. Well, I guess the first thing that I would, I would say here is that the reds like have to take this. Yes. I'm a big Hunter Green fan.

He's only 26 years old. He will be for most of next year. It doesn't turn 27. You actually is cost control. You know how much he's going to make. He's going to make $8 million next year. That's it. And then he's going to make $15 million in 2027 and $16 million in 202028. So you get him for three years at well below market value. You could argue that he hasn't even hit his ceiling yet. I mean, he incredible swing and miss stuff, which I think has to go into the trade return here that switch has come up with. Right.

But hasn't been durable, really. Yeah. In his career, he's missed time every single year. Yeah. This last year, he was, I mean, he was fine. But like, you're really banking on upside on on on green because while he's been good, He hasn't been that ace. And this is an insane amount.

This is the type of offer you would make for an established ace. Yeah. And I don't know if he's there. But the money, the club control associated with him. Yeah. I, again, it's definitely unique. I'll give you that. It feels like a massive overfay because not only,

are you giving up Sloan, Cole Young, and Johnny Farmello, three top 100 prospects. You're kind of honestly selling low on those three guys as well in this trade, but you're also giving up Brian and Matt Brash. Like, isn't on Greens level. So that's obviously an upside. Is the difference Matt Brash? And I know you're going to be like, well, Phillips is in this deal.

I don't care. Okay. You're giving up Matt Brash and Bryce Miller and Cole Young, who are all going to help you this year for one pitcher who's i think what's scurionating's pitch i just had it 150 one yeah 150 yeah right so that is a big big risk to take but it's four years of that guy yeah well yeah there's a club option correct yeah yeah exactly so so you have four years of club control on a guy that win healthy is one of the five to seven best starting pitchers in baseball Yeah, yeah, it's about right.

Yeah. The win-healthy part is a big one, though. Yeah. It's been every year. And that's the thing that gives me the biggest thing up here. Because, like, look, if I'm trading for four years of a guy of this caliber, yeah, I probably would take a package like this. Like, just something absolutely ridiculous to get him.

Literally the godfather offer. Yeah. And this is it. but because of the health I do hesitate I don't know this this is a fun deal I would give this a 60

this is too much for me I think for just about any player now obviously like Otani like yeah okay fine whatever but it's tempting because I really like Hunter Green and he's really good

and he's trending in the right direction but the health is the big one here he can't help from the IL. So to me, Miller, Brash, Sloan, Cole Young, Johnny Farmello, like, that is an insane amount of talent

to give up for a... I don't think it caught... I don't think Hunter Green costs as much, to be honest with you. Yeah. But if he does, the mayors are one of the only teams that could put forth a trade offer like this.

I just don't think I would want them to do it. So, like, I'll trade. I'll trade, like, Bryce Miller and, and, Johnny Farmello and fell in Cells to ensure like, you want to do that? Yeah, fine. But like Brash and Sloan and Farmello and Young and it's just like, I, now I got to go replace Brash. I got to find out what to do at second base.

Like, it did. Good job on the trades this week, guys. So I'm going to go 50 like it's creative. It's certainly a conversation starter. I think it's a little unrealistic. but also how nuts are the Reds for even considering trading Hunter Green, which they are. Reportively they are. So.

Yep. But yeah, I mean, I can't even say like, oh, this is, they wouldn't get this front. They might. They might. I don't know. I really don't know. So it's really, I think to me, I just be like, let's go check on Joe Ryan. Let's go check on Freddie for Alta real fast here before I would commit this much to one guy who's

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