Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Good Vibes Only: Mariners Scored Big With Eugenio Suárez
Episode Date: November 3, 2022The Seattle Mariners were banking on Jesse Winker to provide some offensive punch to the lineup and were really just hoping Eugenio Suárez wouldn't be a drain on the offense. As it turns out, the opp...osite was true. Colby and Ty discuss the importance of Suárez's big season and whether or not it's fair of us to expect him to do it again! All of this and more on today's episode of Locked On Mariners!Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: lockedonmariners@gmail.comFollow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/SimpliSafeWith Fast Protect™️ Technology, exclusively from SimpliSafe, 24/7 monitoring agents capture evidence to accurately verify a threat for faster police response. There’s No Safe Like SimpliSafe. Visit SimpliSafe.com/LockedOnMLB to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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A wonderful career in Cincinnati came to a rough end for A Eugenio Suarez,
who made his way to Seattle as basically a throw-in in the Jesse Winker trade.
But not only was Suarez a bigger part of the Mariners drought ending 2022 season than Winker was.
He was overall one of the most valuable third baseman in all of baseball.
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On the show today, we'll be reviewing the 2022 season of A.U. Hennio,
Suarez, which came as a surprise to a lot of Mariners fans.
But Colby, I'm going to take this moment to pat myself on the back because I do have video
evidence and audio evidence of me singing the praises of A.
Eugenio Suarez before this season even began right around the time that this trade was made
and Suarez arrived in Seattle saying that, you know what?
I think the Mariners have something here in A. E.
Hennio Suarez. Now, to be fair, I didn't think that he was going to slash 236, 332, 459 with a 131
WRC plus and end up being worth 4.1 F4, which was one of the highest marks for all third
baseman in Major League Baseball. He hit 31 home runs, 87 RBI. He did strike out 31.2% of the time,
but also walked 11.6% of the time.
Overall, great year for Suarez.
Also turned things around defensively
after returning to third base full time.
As we all know, the Reds kind of experimented with him
at shortstop in in 2021.
And that kind of derailed things for him.
He was also dealing with a shoulder thing, all that.
But came back healthy this year,
had a mostly healthy season until the end of the year
when he had the finger injury that held him out for a little bit
before he returned in time for the postseason.
But let me start here.
There were a lot of home runs, a lot of walk-off home runs,
a lot of good defensive plays, great defensive plays even,
and also just the overall personality, the good vibes only, all that stuff.
What was your favorite moment from Suarez's 2022 campaign?
Yeah, probably the walk-off home run he hit against Toronto.
I believe that was a Friday night.
It was a stupid Apple TV game.
Yeah, I think that one, just because it was kind of in the middle of their win streak,
we didn't quite know how good the Mariners were yet.
They had started to play a lot better, but they were still kind of, you know,
middling around 500.
You know, Toronto came in, you know, as a team that a lot of people thought,
second, third best team in the American League and Seattle beat them four times.
and that one home run from A. E. E. E. Hino-Swarres, I think, kind of, you know, can be looked at in a lot of ways as a catalyst for how the rest of that month went.
It was sweet. You know, the one against Kenley Jansen, certainly up there. But to me, the first one, it was his first ever walk-off home run, too, which is kind of weird for a player of A. E. E. Hineo's status.
So, yeah, I think that's probably the moment that stands out to me.
and for me i think swores kind of perfectly embodies what a big piece of what jerry depoto and crew look at
when they acquire players when they bring players in from the outside and that's how he fits in the
clubhouse he was the perfect fit for this clubhouse it wasn't just the fans that you know he stole
the hearts of very early on when he arrived it was very clear that he was very clear that he was very clear that
that his teammates rallied around him
right from the beginning and then
all year long and I think the arrival
of Jesse Winker who had played with him
and they had been good friends. I think that
also kind of helped with things
and helped those guys kind of both of them
kind of comfortably fit
into the into the clubhouse
but you know from
having the skunk hair
right the one half blonde
the one half black and
Scott service saying you know the whole team's
going to do it if he hits 50 if he hits
50 bombs, all that stuff.
Like I just, the way that he,
um,
he kind of became one of those,
maybe not necessarily a leader in the clubhouse,
but a guy that everyone just genuinely likes to be around and likes to play for
and loves when he has success.
Um,
that's a,
that's a great thing,
right?
That's a great thing for clubhouse chemistry.
He was a big part of building this clubhouse into the, uh,
family that,
that it really became.
came over the course of the year.
For me, my favorite moment was also the walk off against the Blue Jays because like you said,
you know, in the middle of a of that win streak, you're going into a really difficult
series with the Blue Jays who you're neck and neck with for the wild card.
And you sweep them.
And that was a big, big moment in that sweep because that was a little bit of a comeback for
them if I, if I remember correctly, right?
I believe they were down at one point and they were able to come back and they were able to walk that game off.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong down in the comments below.
But that was huge.
And that set the tone for the rest of that series and for the rest of that win streak heading into the All-Star break, really.
Because if you remember, Suarez was a huge part of that win streak overall.
And that was certainly his biggest moment.
But you know, you got to talk about the solo home run or the yeah, the solo walk off home run off.
of Kenley Jansis as well after
Julio tied things up, you know, the
Mariners blow that lead against the Braves. We've talked
about that game a lot over the last few episodes.
But
for Suarez to cap that one off,
that was the moment really where I was like,
okay, the Mariners can do some damage
in the postseason. And it's because
of guys like Julio Rodriguez and Ney Junio Suarez.
And, you know, towards the end of the year, the Mariners
needed Suarez to be that guy.
Because, you know, it was really like,
all right, they're going to get offense from Julio,
but who else?
Who's going to be that second guy?
Who's going to be that third guy?
And Suarez certainly stepped up.
He also had a great postseason.
He went seven for 20 with a home run in game two of the ALDS.
And so, yeah, it was just a great season for him.
Let's talk about him defensively, though, in just a moment.
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So Colby, Suarez, now you look at the defensive metrics on fan graphs.
they're not super favorable for him
but the eye test
will tell you that Suarez was a
really, really good defender this year
on the hot corner. Let's talk
a little bit about his defense. What did you see
from Swares this year?
He was certainly better
than advertised.
I think we knew that
the defensive metrics
he put up at shortstop or
solely because he was
playing out of position. He's not a shortstop. We all knew.
that. So I didn't really think there was much to that. But at third base, he was kind of average-ish.
He was always okay, right? But he's playing third base because he can hit a lot of home runs.
That's the idea, at least. And he came over to Seattle, and, you know, I don't think there was
really anything about his game that was particularly surprising. We saw the power. We saw the
strikeouts. We knew he could take some walks. We knew offensively he had this type of season in him.
But we didn't know anything really about the glove.
And it turns out the glove was just as big of a factor, maybe not as big,
but a pretty big factor in his value.
And you look at, you know, how are the Mariners going to replace Kyle Seeger?
They did it and they got better as a result.
I mean, A.U. Hounios Juarez was a better defender this year.
And then Kyle Seeger has been really at any point in the last three years or so.
the Mariners got better defensively with AUNYos-Wares
Manning the Hot Corner
Seeger probably about average towards the end
Gino's probably just a little bit better than that
so you know you got to give credit to him
and you got to give credit to Perry Hill
but it certainly was a nice little bonus for the Mariners
Yeah you know back when we were talking about this trade
Before the season began you know I was saying
I think he can at least be Kyle Seeger
You know 2021 Kyle Seeger I think you can at least
get that kind of production out of a e.
Johanio Suarez and then you know he comes through and and blows us out of the water with that.
But yeah, defensively speaking, he was at least as good as Kyle Seeger towards the end of Seeger's career.
But I agree with you.
I think he was at least a little bit better there.
And I, you know, I think he should have gotten some gold glove nod as well for his play over there.
But, you know, you look at the the numbers here like negative point three defensive.
war on fan graphs like that's come on come on with that he was way better than that and third base is
usually a place that has you know because defensive metrics in general are not perfect by any stretch
of the imagination but third base is usually one of those positions that's a little bit more
accurately graded so that's surprising to see stuff like that but overall again a great defensive
year for swarez now do we think he can keep this up and specifically can he keep
up the offense moving forward because you know the last two years were awful for him
2020 he he slash 202 312 470 with a 100 WRC plus and 58 57 of the 60 games then
2021 he slashed 198 2826 428 with an 84 WRC plus you know this year of course was back to his
you know earlier numbers
he was more in line with his earlier numbers
the average was a lot lower than maybe his career norms
during you know the 2016 to 2019 stretch
the strikeouts have continued to go up
this was a career high in strikeouts for him
he was I believe
was close to the league lead in strikeouts overall
and but you know
and and this has been a thing that is kind of
of crept up since 2020 as well or since 2019 rather because he from 2015 to 2018 he was having around
you know 23 and a half percent strikeout rate and was still walking around a you know a 10 10 and a half
percent clip uh walk rate um but since 2019 he was so 2019 he was 28 and a half 2020 he was 29
2021 he was 29 point eight and then this year 31 point two percent
So in terms of sustaining the success that he's had, does the strikeout rate concern you?
Or is the fact that he is able to hit for so much power and is able to walk at an above average rate enough for you to think that he can continue this moving forward?
I feel pretty comfortable expecting him to repeat what he did last year going forward.
He's going to strike out.
That's just going to be part of his game.
but he's going to draw walks.
The power is very real.
And as long as he can continue to play pretty good defense,
there's really no reason for him, you know,
not to hit somewhere in the middle or back middle of this lineup going forward.
I think ideally you'd like him to hit, you know,
sixth for you instead of third or fourth.
But yeah, I don't see any reason why you can't repeat what he did this last year.
You know, he's always going to be a bit of a streaky hitter.
He's going to strike out.
But he'll be able to carry you for weeks on end.
So I feel pretty comfortable, you know, putting Gino in the lineup pretty much every day next year as my third baseman, D.H, first base, whatever.
Yeah.
And so, you know, there might be an opportunity.
We'll see how they construct the roster over the next few months.
But there may be an opportunity for Svarez to kind of move around a little bit and maybe DH some, maybe play a little first.
space like you're talking about.
We'll see what they, you know, want to end up doing and how things all kind of come together.
But, you know, Suarez is creeping up there in age now.
He's 31 years old.
He'll turn 32 next July.
So maybe if he can take some of the, uh, the innings off of him at third base and
give him some more DH days that would, that would help out of it.
He played 150 games and really only missed, uh, action because of that finger injury.
Uh, so he missed 12 games despite having basically a,
broken finger for the for the end of the season that's you know that's another thing too right like
we talk about the personality and everything hey oh hennino sweros is a tough you know what right like
being able to go through that and play and be able to play third base by the way because that was a
really surprising thing you know i remember uh when he was coming back you know and they were
working tie france over at third and all that you know we're talking about oh swarez is probably not
going to play third base again this year and lo and behold there he is playing third base like his
second game back and so that's uh that's pretty remarkable and that's something that you know
that clubhouse is going that's going to win that clubhouse over forever right so um you know that that
that just that's a testament to just kind of who swore as is as a baseball player as a person uh and so
you know but overall kind of just going back to what i was saying uh about kind of limiting some of the
And I think it'll be good for him to maybe, you know, get some more time off over the course of a season
and at least defensively and just let him DH a little bit there to kind of take the brunt of the workload off of his shoulders.
Because it's a long year and, you know, it's even if he is, you know, basically an Ironman, right?
Like guys still need, you know, a blow here and there.
But yeah.
So overall, you know, you got to feel incredible about what Suarez was able to do this.
year and even if he does regress some, I think, you know, you'll take that player.
Even if he's like a 115, 120 WRC plus guy, like that's still a really good player to have.
And if he can at least be averaged defensively on top of that and give you 25 to 35 home runs,
you take that any of the day of the week.
That's one of the best third basemen on all baseball consistently.
And I think there's enough here to suggest that he is going to be able to sustain this
because also you look back at the last couple of years, he was dealing with a gnarly COVID.
ballot in 2020. Then the next year, you know, he had shoulder surgery after having a freak
accident in a pool. Like there were outside factors. And on top of that, you know, he got moved to
shortstop, which is ridiculous. You don't see guys get moved from third base to shortstop. You see
guys get moved from shortstop to third base. You know, so there were a lot of outside factors.
I think were contributing to him struggle to his struggles over the last couple of years. And I think
this being more in line with where he was pre-COVID, pre-injury,
suggests that this is probably more so who a Eugenio Soros is
rather than what we saw in 2020 and 2021.
Now, before we hop off of here, I want to cover a couple small items.
One, the Mariners, DFA Drew Ellis, at some point,
they didn't actually announce it, I don't think,
but they announced today, Mariners PR announced today that he,
he cleared waivers and was outright at two Tacoma.
So he is now off the 40-man roster.
The Mariners 40-man roster is now at 41 players.
So they do have to clear one more spot in order for both Tom Murphy and Casey Sadler
to come off of the 60-day IL.
Now, that doesn't really matter because in a matter of days,
whenever the World Series ends, Adam Frazier, Kirk Casale, Matthew Boyd,
Mitch Hanager, and Carlos Santana.
are all going to be coming off of the 40 men because they're free agents.
So that's not a huge deal.
But Colby, I mean, they're really, there's a bunch of options for them to clear 40-man
roster spots still.
Brennan Bernadino, 1-10, Justice Sheffield.
There's no roster crunch here, right?
No, not yet.
You know, Brian O'Keefe is another one.
There are probably guys you don't want to move on from.
Evan White, Taylor Tremel, Justice Sheffield, but you can.
Those are just names right now at this point.
And there's plenty more.
The Mariners aren't going to have any kind of issue.
You know, basically maneuvering their roster any way they want.
They're going to have to add, I think probably at least two or three guys to protect them from the Rule 5.
they'd be pretty shocked if they didn't add Cade Marlowe.
You know, I think there's a couple of reliever arms that are really interesting, like Isaiah Campbell.
Joseph Fernandez.
So, yeah, I mean, we'll see.
But, yeah, they're not going to be in any kind of a crunch whatsoever.
Those decisions are going to come here pretty soon, though.
I think you have to have your 40-man set for the off-season,
i.e. you have to protect your guys
from the Rule 5 draft by November 20th.
So here in, you know, a little more than two weeks,
we'll know who's going to start the year on the 40 man.
So, yeah, there's no roster crunch.
Like you said, we could, I bet we could probably get 20 names deep
before we're like, no, he's absolutely has to be on the roster.
Like, you're not DFA in that player.
It's probably no joke, 12 to 18 guys who you can,
could conceivably DFA and be like, yeah. Okay.
Yeah. And so, you know, and that's not to even mention guys like Ryan Buraki,
Luke Weaver, who was just added.
Alberto Rodriguez, who's still a ways away from the majors.
Diego Castillo.
Even someone like Diego Castillo, even someone like Ryan Perrucke, you know, the list goes
on and on and on. Kyle Lewis, Evan White, et cetera.
like, you know, if you want to get deeper into your bag, but like the Mariners are are not going to add a ton of players, I think, to the 40-man roster over the course of the off-season.
I think what ultimately happens here is that when the Mariners do add, it's going to, you know, it's going to turn some heads, right?
They're going to add impact, right?
That's how they're going to do the bulk of their off-season.
And, you know, they're going to still do like the minor league ads.
And, you know, if there's someone that hits waivers, that's interesting.
Like they'll kick the tires on that.
But ultimately, I don't think we're going to see a lot of players added to the 40-man roster.
We're just going to see a lot of impact added to the 40-man roster.
And therefore, there aren't going to need to be too many moves made to clear space.
But again, you know, five spots are going to open up when the Mariners Free agents officially become free agents.
And they still have some what I would consider to be obvious.
Nuffeus names that they can also DFA in order to create more space and they will do that over the course of the winter
I don't think that they need to do the rule five stuff until December
So they might hold off on that
Because the the winter meetings aren't until
what December 4th December 5th and that's when the rule 5th so I think maybe they can hold off on that until the start of December we'll see though
They might just jump the gun on that and just
do it now if they know who they want to add and that way they can just kind of put things into a
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