Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - How BIG of a Swing Can (and Should) the Seattle Mariners Take With a George Kirby Trade?!

Episode Date: October 8, 2026

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Three teams got eliminated last night and two can be potential landing spots for George Kirby. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors, it is Thursday, October 8, 2026. My name is Tadden, Gazzalas, and I'm joined, as always, by my host, Colby Patnode. On today's show, we're going to look through the rosters of the three teams eliminated last night. That would be the Braves, the Yankees, and the United States.

the Padres and identify some offseason fits for the Mariners. And here in our first segment, we're going to start with the San Diego Padres, the Mariners, Peoria Partners. And you know where I'm going with this to start things off. We talked about it so much leading up to the trade deadline. And now we're going to circle back. Mason Miller, Colby, specifically for George Kirby.

Now with Miller, it's three years of club control. He is projected by MLB Trade Rumors.com to make $8.1 million. an arbitration this season. George Kirby is set to make 9.8, so pretty close there on the money. Miller coming off of a sensational season, one of the greatest reliever seasons of all time, 3.7 F4 being essentially a four words that's unheard of,

really. Coming off of, you know, disappointing NLDS though, obviously gave up that walkoff to Jackson's Trio got beat there in that big moment. So clearly, Colby, he's washed and the Padres should send him to Seattle. Yeah.

I don't know if trading Kirby for Mason Miller straight up is like the best idea for the Meriters. Just because Kirby is like their one trade chip that they're actually going to use this winter and they kind of feels like they have to fill multiple gaps with their Kirby trade. And trading for Mason Miller, who's already going to be your highest paid relief. Well, second behind Sir Anthony Dominguez. And then next year, like, there's basically no chance the Mariners pay Miller three times in arbitration. So they're going to trade him, which, I mean, fine, they'll get a really good package even for one year of Miller, assuming he's healthy and assuming he doesn't fall off a cliff.

Thankfully, in the long history of baseball, relievers have never done that. So, yeah, it's a fun idea and it's not the worst idea of the world, certainly. But I do, like, there's part of me that's like, I'd rather get like a couple of good pieces than, then, you know, just one guy who's going to throw 70 innings for me this year. But like, there's going to be 70 good innings and, and, you know. That would be very good innings. Yeah. So, like, again, like, it's not like an automatic no for me.

It's just I question whether or not this is the best way to maximize George Kirby's return. And yeah, like, this Mariners team is not going to pay me. So we could say it's three years of club control. It's not. It's at most two. And then whatever you can get for a rental reliever. And again, like you're hoping the rental reliever stays this good for two years so you can get something back for him where the possibility, however remote, does

certainly exist that he might just be okay, you know, and we've seen that happen before. Maybe God forbid he turns into Matt Brash and, you know, he just, he can't stay healthy or whatever. Like that type of stuff does happen. So, yeah, Miller for Curr. Kirby will definitely talk about it and Miller should be a guy that the Mariners look at. Yeah, I know if this is what they think the best they can do for Kirby is, this is the most impactful move they can make trading George Kirby, then, you know, I can't say they're wrong. I just, I think that I would prefer to trade Kirby elsewhere.

But Miller, I mean, they have to talk about them. They have to. We heard that they did, and they got told it was going to cost Ryan Sloan or Kate Anderson, and that is a L-O-L-L-No. So, but yeah, it's, Miller's definitely the name here that will stand out to most people. I just like, it feels like maybe not the best spot to like kind of go all in this offseason. But certainly he would help, no question about it. Yeah, I mean, like if we're going to talk about Mason Miller to the Mariners,

I just don't know how else you get him without trading George Kirby to San Diego or a package headline by Emerson Hancock. Kate Anderson, Ryan Sloan. Yeah, which is why I would probably just look elsewhere. Yeah. Plus, I don't really want to pay for a reliever coming off of a four-win season, you know, because the overwhelming odds are is that we're never going to see that again. So I'm buying high on somebody. But, yeah, the Padres have a lot of, you know, interesting pieces.

But Miller is definitely at the top of the list. Yeah, I know that we're doing doing something. some digging around the Padres bullpen, not just with Mason Miller this summer, but also Jeremiah Strata. So maybe they circle back there. Adrian Moyehon, the reliever,

but he's going to make a ton this offseason. The merits are not going to pay for him. He's going to make Josh Hader money and just like, no, no, and I don't blame the Mariners for not spending that type of money on a reliever, especially since they're actually kind of pricey in the bullpen already.

So committing long-term and high-level contracts to your bullpen guys. Yeah, I think a mid-market team has to be very careful about doing that. So, but yeah, Moroan would be great, just like, you know, Miller would be great. But there are legitimate, like, you know, reasons for concern or reservation about pursuing those angles. Estrada would be great. Is he available? I don't know.

He's kind of trend. it down the last couple of years, although it's not like he's bad. And I think he dealt with an injury this year as well. So, you know, again, there are some red flags there as well. One thing we should keep in mind whenever you're talking about the Padres is that we have heard for the last few years that they have spent well above their means, quote unquote, like their market size relative to their payroll is just, it's not sustainable whatsoever. And we heard over the last couple of years that they've had to take out loans to, to cover their payroll and all that and that they have to scale back.

They have to, you know, and we've heard that for the last couple of years, though, and they really haven't done it. They continue to spend at this super high level. And there's new owners now, but the owners have said that, you know, we're going to spend within our means. So there could be some forced salary dumping going on this winter. But we've heard about that for the last couple of years and kind of assume that that would start, you know, that winter and it just really hasn't.

but when you do kind of look at the Padres and the contracts that they are most likely wanting to move, the Mariners should have no interest in them. Yeah, I mean like, I think part of the reason that we haven't seen the crazy salary dumping from them is because they don't really have salaries that teams are going to want to take on, right? Like no one's going to want to take on Zander Bogartz.

I don't think anyone wants to take on. How many years does Jake Cronenworth have left? It's like five, four or five. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think anyone wants to do with that. Like, the Padres would have to eat so much money on Machado, on Bogarts, on, on Croninworth. That it just kind of gets to the point where it's literally, hey, we're paying you to take half of this contract off of our hands or whatever it is.

And, you know, Machado was bad this year. Bogart's was bad this year until the last month of the year as well. So even though they are right-handed, you know, left side of the infield players that, in theory makes sense for the Mariners. There's no shot. The Mariners are going to sink five years into Mandy Machado, regardless of the money. There's no shot. They're going to sink five or six years into Xander Bogarts, regardless of how little money

they actually have to pay. Like Croninworth, again, if the Padres are willing to basically pay the last three or four years of that contract, then like maybe, but that's not going to happen. So, yeah, the Padres really are an interesting team. We talked a little bit about like Gavin Sheets yesterday, but that doesn't really make a lot of sense for Seattle. Even Thai France really doesn't make all that much sense because you're committed to Naylor at first base.

You just are, and Ty France can't do anything but play first base or DH. And I don't think they're going to want a full-time DH. Well, I don't think the plan is to have a full-time DH. If they run into a situation where they get to post-lockout and they still kind of need that bat, maybe then they would consider somebody like Ty. but I just, I don't think, you know, first base only is really a fit on the Mariners roster right now. So there's just not really a ton here outside of the bullpen guys that make a lot of sense for Seattle because, again, they're going to have a limited payroll. And they just are whether we like it or not.

And all these guys that they could acquire, they're going to take out significant chunks of that payroll. And there's real question about most of them, at least the offensive players, their performance levels, what they could. could actually bring you on the field in 2027 and beyond. So the Mariners and the Padres, if it's not the bullpen, it's not really a ton there. And, you know, they don't have a good farm system either. So it's not like there's like, hey, well, we could trade George Kirby for these couple of prospects.

And it's like, no, it's pretty much Ethan Salas. And I think Cruz Schoolcraft is down there, but he's quite a ways away. So there's really not a ton outside of that bullpen. that I could see the Mariners going out and aggressively attacking. All right. Coming up, we're going to talk about the Atlanta Braves, but first, to a reminder of this episode of the lockdown Mariners podcast is brought to you by Game Day Men's Health.

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So now let's look at the roster of the Atlanta Braves, the team that we've talked a little bit about already here in the early going of this offseason. Specifically, Maricio DuBone, who's an impending free agent as a stopgap, shortstop option, and then eventual super utility option for the Mariners. but there's a different reason I want to talk about the Braves here, Colby. And it's one that I know we're going to get asked about. We are going to get fan fiction Friday trades featuring this player. So let's just get out ahead of it now.

Ronald Ocuna Jr. Specifically in the context of a George Kirby trade, sticking with that theme from the first segment here. Because both guys have two years left of club control. Now, Coonia is making 17 million. million dollars on his club option. George Kirby is projected to make 9.8.

So there's a pretty significant difference in money there. But you look at these two players, a lot of question marks with both. Obviously with George, been a disappointing last couple seasons for George, especially this year. Just hasn't been able to live up to the expectations that a lot of people have placed upon him, especially that Cy Young ceiling that some have viewed for him. and we still think that there are teams out there that think they have the fix for him and have the solution to get him to that level. And maybe the Braves are one of them.

I think the Braves are actually kind of a sneaky landing spot here for George Kirby that we haven't really talked about much. Acuna, obviously a former MVP level player, the 4070 season, historic season that he had in 23 but the last three years he's played a combined what 251 games 45 and in or sorry 49 and 2024 95 and 2025 107 this year he's dealt with a lot of lower body injuries a lot of wear and tear even as recent as just the last couple of days he's been dealing with a knee thing before the Braves were eliminated last night he's still produced you know 2025 before his season was he posted a 162 WRC plus

120 WRC plus this year in 107 games but he's been a terrible defender a lot of that is probably due to the wear and terror that he has accrued over time and then you know there's been some questionable effort

related things and stuff like that I just I can't imagine that he's someone that the Mariners would seriously consider here but obviously we know what the ceiling is here with Acuna and then we know what the ceiling could be with George and I don't know the gears start to turn here and it starts to maybe kind of make sense

for what would be a blockbuster challenge trade you know typically when we talk about challenge trades they're kind of more on like the lower key type of scale where like it might be a couple of guys that have gotten off to you know that that have high potential that have gotten off to rough starts in their careers, needed change of scenery, stuff like that. This is way different.

This is like this would be an insane trade if that actually happened. And I don't think it would. And I'm not advocating for it, but we're going to get asked about it. So let's talk about it. Yeah. Acuna is, I mean, it's kind of a stick of dynamite. If you're holding it when it goes off, bad news for you. But if you can direct.

that energy at the opponent and it goes off, you know, without a hitch, then yeah, it's, it's going to be good for you. And Acuna is a guy that if he could play 140 games, he would probably be a six-win player, even with the bad defense, like he's that good of a hitter, you know, and, but several major knee injuries. And he's not stealing 70 bases again. And if he's not going to steal, you know, significant amount of bases going forward, that really does limit his value, especially when he's not.

you factor in that. He's a terrible defender in right field. And then you kind of go off of what Jerry talked about at the end of your press conference, you know, being bad at defense is a choice sometimes and kind of the lack of focus that this team had and there's really no accountability. And then you go and then you're going to go out there this off season and be like, Ronald Acuna Jr. will fix all of that. It feels like you're doing the Randy thing, but with significantly higher injury risk. now obviously the ceiling the ceiling is higher than the randy i think even even with all the injuries that acunia has accrued like i you know we just saw randy's career year i don't think randy is

going to put together another season like the one we just saw from him i mean i think randy randy's still going to be like the you know three to four win guy that he's been previously in his career probably the 25 bombs you know 125 inch w rc plus get like i think that's who randy's going to be at least for the next couple of years but like acunia again Again, like even last year before you got hurt, again, it was 29417, 518 slash line. Like, that's insane. Yeah. Again, he was pretty good this year in a quote down year for him.

So, yeah, talent-wise, it's a no-brainer. But if there wasn't anything to be concerned about, the Braves would not be trading him or shopping him. So, yeah, the Acuna conversation is probably. not going away. I don't imagine this is a tray that gets done before the lockout. It's because it's so complicated with like medicals and stuff like that. So Acuna might be moved, you know, during the spring training period of the post lockout and all that. But yeah, it's, it's intriguing, but it is also a little terrifying. And if I'm the front office and I know that like this is my last winter to save my job, I don't know that I want to, you know, go all in on Ronald

Acuna Jr. and his knee and his you know yeah his attitude let's call it his his reputation let's call that's a better word for it and going back to what you were saying in the first segment about Mason Miller is this really the best

route to take with the George Kirby trade again the the ceiling is so incredibly high with Acuna because if you hit like you have a potential MVP candidate here yep maybe it is Like, I'm not saying it's not.

I'm just saying it's, it's, it's not full proof and it's not like a no-brainer. It certainly is not. You really have to kind of slow walk this. And boy, let's find out how good of connections you have across baseball because you're going to want to talk to everybody who's ever had an interaction with Acunae before you decide to kind of like stake your job, literally on this one guy. I just, I don't love that idea. But Coonius really good. So I understand the temptation. The Braves have other guys, though.

One of them is not Austin Riley. Like, if you send us an Austin Riley trade for Fan Fiction Friday, it is getting a 20. And it's probably not getting on the air. So, yeah, no, that guy sucks. And he's supposed to make like $25 million a year for the next eight years. Like, no, no, stop wasting our time. No. Ozzie Albies, unfortunately, kind of sucks now.

be a fun, interesting guy to look at and be like, oh, you know, you can run a little bit. Maybe he can learn some third base and he's a switch hitter. It's only seven million bucks. Like that's more realistic than Riley, but still it's like, uh, probably not. But when you look at some of these free agents, you look at Dubone, who fits amazingly well here in Seattle. Uh, you look at a guy like Rizel Eglacius. If you're looking at that kind of back end of the bullpen type of guy, Eglacius is certainly that guy.

Hassan Kim on kind of a bounce back, you know, pillow type of contract. He was dreadful this year. And even for pillow contracts, he might not get that much. And he can play shortstop pretty much every day for you, at least for, you know, the first, you know, month or so until you see Colt Emerson and maybe even move Emerson to third base, if Kim turns it around. And he's been a pretty good player in the past. So, yeah, the Braves actually do have several options.

Most of them, free agents, Lane Thomas as kind of your fourth outfielder. We talked a lot about him this summer as well. Like the Braves are a team that has some pieces. It's just Austin Riley is not one of them. And unfortunately, I don't think Ozzy Albies is either just because it's been like three years since he's been good. So yeah. Yeah. They're not going to trade Matt Olson, you know?

So like that'd be great. But also you're, again, you're committed to Josh Nehler at first base. Whether you like it or not, you are. So, yeah. But Iglesias certainly. I've seen some like Spencer Strider might get traded this winter and it might be as like to be converted into a reliever. But I don't think the mayor's going to pay him $15 million a year to try to be a reliever. But maybe there's some kind of salary dump off or exchange or something that we don't see.

So maybe something there. But it really is. It's Dubon number one. Then it's like probably Iglesias. And then Kim and then Thomas, if you're looking for free agents on this, on this rock. that Seattle could have interest in. All right. Lastly, we will take a look at the Yankees roster.

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Anyone else? Besides those two guys that you got your eye on here? Yeah. A couple of relievers, David Bednar being the big one, but again, are the Mariners going to spend money? And Bednar might get the qualifying offer, at which point should eliminate him

from the mayor's conversation. Anybody who's getting the qualifying offer this winter, probably eliminated from the Mariners conversation, including yes, say a Suzuki. Now again, there's still some question about what the qualifying offer is actually going to be. We don't know with the new CBA. So maybe it's nothing.

But it might get grandfathered in to whatever changes because like the qualifying offer will be attached to players before the lockout. Yeah. So yeah, you have that deadline comes before the new lockout. And there's nothing. So my guess is it will operate the same way at least. For one more year.

Winner. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, any more home, no, like Bednar, no, especially relievers who get that offer. They might just take it, too. 20 million bucks, 23 million bucks for a reliever is, I mean, that's two-year contract for most of them. Most of the really good ones anyways. But aside from Bednar, Paul Blackburn, really interesting former mariner reunion.

I mean, former mariner farmhand. I don't think he ever actually gets from him. He was traded in the Danny Valencia trade? Daniel Vogelback trade Well no that's when they got him But didn't they trade him to the A's? Oh yes yes yes yes

Yeah they got him in the Vogel back And then they flipped him like that next winter A couple weeks later in the winter Then that probably wouldn't be Valencia Was that Yonder Alonzo? Was that right? No, that would be right. Yeah well whatever

Anyway Yeah Paul Blackburn had a pretty good year Didn't strike anyone out But got incredible value out of his change up this year Changeup was nasty this year. Yeah, multi-inning guy can pitch a lot, like not just, you know, three innings a day, but can pitch like two or three days in a row, multiple innings.

Like, yeah, and that's kind of the new thing that that new old thing. I guess it's kind of like leveraged long relievers. Blackburn kind of fits that perfectly. And yeah, I can see Seattle being interested in that. Also, Ryan Yarbrough is a guy that I've liked for a while, also a former mariner farm hand. He doesn't strike anybody out either, but he gets a ton of ground balls. He's good against lefties and righties.

He's elite and pretty much always has been at avoiding hard contact. So if you're going to have this kind of like change in philosophy and you're actually going to care about range and infield defense this year, getting a couple of guys like Blackburn and Yarbrough might actually make sense. Whereas in the past, they go on and they get Ferrer. And it's like, cool, he's got a 60% ground ball rate, but does ground? of balls are being hit at J.P. Crawford, you know, and, and, and Brennan Donovan trying to learn how to play third base. So we've talked a lot about the disconnect there, the lack of alignment there and building your infield versus building your bullpen. So if they're going to make changes to that, then these guys do make more sense. In Yarborough, like Blackburn, another guy who can go multiple innings can kind of spot start for you. Can, you know, bridge the gap. Can go get you five outs to hand the ball to Brash and Munoz and hopefully the new daddy you bring in. Like, so yeah, those. Those two guys stand out.

Also, obviously, Cabiero and Volpe. We've talked about them a lot already. And we talked about them yesterday. Jazz Chisholm, I just, he can play third base. He did it and he was good at it. And obviously, this, you know, 30-30 upside here, but he's young. But, again, the headaches and all of that, that the merits have apparently been like,

we don't want to deal with that. Chisholm does those things. He's kind of Randy-like in that way. And again, like in this free agent class, he's probably going to get a multi-year deal and he's probably going to get paid pretty well. And even if he's willing to take a pillow contract, when's the last hitter that signed with the Seattle Mariners

on a pillow contract, one year, get back to the market next year type of deal. Who wasn't with the Mariners of the year prior? Because I know you guys are going to say where I belong. Yeah. Yeah. But that was built in. relationship there.

I think the Mariners were in on jazz when he was traded to the Yankees if I'm remembering correctly. But I just I don't see that. That was the same deadline as Randy. Randy, yeah. I just, I don't see that as being likely, but

throw them out there. He can't play third base. There was conflicting information on whether or not they were in on jazz. But again, like the Acuna thing, it's like you say that you want to, you know, be cleaner and, and, uh, you know, be more focused and, you know, have less drama and all that, blah, blah, blah.

It's like, well, jazz isn't particularly good at that, but he is a good defender, like a very good defender. And he's a very good offensive seasons before. Uh, this year he just didn't hit lefties at all and, and he really struggled in the second half, but he's a really good defender and he's a really good base runner. Yeah. So he's a good bounceback candidate. Yeah, he is.

But again, like, is he going to sign with the Mariners to try and reestablish value. I doubt it. So I just, I just don't, I just don't find it worth talking about really. I just can't imagine it. Maybe just keep him in like the back of your mind. Like, yeah, like maybe. If everything kind of breaks perfectly and you're like, hey, maybe I mean, he's right. Maybe that type of guy. But yeah, I think it's Blackburn. I think it's Yarborough. And then I think it's the two infielders. and Volpe and Cabrero that I would keep an eye on. There's like a weird path where like George Kirby actually could make some sense for the Yankees,

but they're pretty deep in the rotation. And I don't think he'll see Kirby as like an upgrade over like a Will Warren or anything like that. So I do think there's a couple of, you know, I'd call them dogs in the bullpen that are going to be available and then a couple of utility infielders. and then like just in the back of your mind, just keep Jazz Chisholm's name back there.

We won't spend that much time discussing him, but also I do think there is a chance that they could explore the, the Jazz Chisham route if the market breaks a particular way. Oh, and also Trent Grisham. Not my favorite idea. You want to talk about a guy who sometimes has mental lapses. Grisham's most notable in New York for jogging after balls, you know, in center field and having the guy take the extra base on him

because he was just, you know, lacks the days ago about getting the ball. That's happened like three or four times with him as a Yankee. But he's, you know, good defender aside from that. But, you know,

like that's like your, hey, what do you know about Trent Grisham? Oh, remember when he like had a ground ball hit right to him in center field and the guy got a double out of it because he just didn't care. Like, yeah.

Also, not a great year this year. The power probably plays pretty well at Team Mobile Park, though. He's Deadpool hitter in the end. Yeah. the overall stuff, the overall numbers this year. Just, yeah.

Maybe they circled back on Helio Ramos. Maybe they did some work on him before he was traded from San Francisco to New York. So maybe. And he was, he did not do well as the Yankee. So. All right. That is going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the lockdown airs podcast.

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