Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - How Safe Should the Mariners Play Things With Julio's Return?

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

The Seattle Mariners are going to the playoffs. That much we know. But who should start games 2 and 3? Some fans don't believe Robbie Ray should get the ball. Colby and Ty disagree with the fans. They explain why in today's episode. Also, Julio Rodriguez is scheduled to return today and Justin Hollander is the new general manager. What does it all mean? Does it change the dynamic at all? All of this and more on today's episode of Locked on Mariners!Be sure to follow or subscribe to Locked On Mariners wherever you prefer your podcasts! For questions and other inquiries, email: [e-mail] the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11For more of Ty and Colby, check out their Patreon: patreon.com/controlthezone/Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKEDON15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The final series of the regular season begins tonight, and Julio is back. We'll give you our thoughts on his return, the official promotion of Justin Hollander's general manager, and whether or not handing the ball to Robbie Ray this upcoming weekend is a good choice. Talk about that and more coming up here on the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day.

It is Monday, October 3rd, 2022. This is Tiding Azales and Colby Petnode for the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Thank you so much for making us your first listen. Subscribe like and turn on alerts if you're watching on YouTube or subscribe and leave a five-star review on your third podcast platform. If you like what you hear, and if you want to hear from us even more, please consider signing up for our Patreon. The link as well as our social accounts is in the description below and on the show today. Julio Rodriguez returns tonight.

But how much should the Mariners' Platter? play him over the next three days. We'll also address the concerns over Robbie Ray, making a start in the wild card series, wherever that ends up being. And we'll also discuss the promotion of Justin Hollander to Mariners, a general manager. But first, let's start with Julio Colby. Julio's back, or at least as expected back. I don't know if they've made it official or not yet.

I don't think they have just yet. Yeah. So that will probably be official by the time you're watching this. however, dear listener, so Mariners have four games in the next three days against the Tigers. Obviously, the series matters still for seeding purposes, but it might not matter in even a matter of a day. So how much would you like to see Julio play or how little would you like to see Julio play in this series with the postseason coming up? Yeah, it's kind of an interesting question, especially since, you know, there's a double header in this series. obviously, you know, assuming he's activated today, he's only going to play in three of these games, Max.

You're not going to ask him to play two games in one day, I wouldn't think. So I think three is the max, you know, two maybe. But I do think you want to get him some at bats so that, you know, start to get the timing back a little bit. So I think it's possible we see him DH once and maybe play center field a couple times. I think that's probably the most likely scenario. So I think the way you handle it is, you know, it's three games in three days. and you do get the off day on Thursday. So it's not something you have to worry about too much with him.

And, you know, any sign or any grimace or whatever, you just kind of take him out and you just kind of work around it. And, you know, if, you're up by four or five runs and the seventh, maybe you take him out, even though you'd like his defense out there. You just, you have to protect Julio because, you know, having Julio in Toronto, is more valuable than playing playoff games in Seattle without Julio. So, yeah, you know, it's one of those, you know, tough situations because it's a back, it's a muscle thing.

It's not, you know, a broken bone that has to heal or anything like that. It's, you know, the back, the hamstrings, the quads. Like, these are all things that, you know, are, they have kind of this floating timeline. And you never know when they're going to crop back up again. And so there's a pretty good chance Julio's back. It won't be 100% until, you know, sometime this winter. So you have to monitor that. And the important thing is that, you know, he's healthy as healthy as he can be for the playoffs. So that means you can only play him twice in

the next four games. And fine, that means you have to DH him twice and, you know, only play him, you know, six, seven innings in center field to make sure he's 100% or close to it for Friday. Then that's what you do. So I do expect that he'll play center field a couple times. And I think he'll DH one day. I think that's kind of how they'll, they'll work it out depending on what's at stake going into the final day of the regular season. My guess is Julio will sit, Hanager will sit, you know, Gino, like they'll get a lot of the backups in there and try and give those guys back to back days off. So that would be my guess, but obviously that game matters for seating. They're going to go for it.

And Scott's already said as much, you know, they have Logan Gilbert ready to go in the last day of the year. But if that game ends up not meaning anything, then it sounds like they're going to just, call McCacken or Sheffield or or somebody like that. We know Chris Flexen is going to get a start here. I believe tomorrow. Yeah. One of the double-heder games. So Flexen won't be available to start, you know, two games in three days. So they'll have to make a move and I would assume it will be, it'll be Sheffield. Yeah. You know, as we've been saying on the show for the last, you know, a few episodes or so

that, you know, you need Julio to be able to play center field. Now, that's not as big of a deal as I thought it was going to be because a Eugenio Swares is playing third right now and it seems like everything is fine on that front for him so uh the dh isn't as necessary now there isn't as much of a logjam there though you know you would prefer having the defense of Julio so you know I just take things slow here you know just ease him back in maybe if he wants to just you know maybe just dh him tonight just get him a few swings get him a few at bats and then and maybe get him in the field for one of the games tomorrow, rest them for the other, and maybe get back after it on Wednesday or so, we'll see.

But yeah, so that's probably how I'd go about it, just because you need to protect him. You absolutely need Julio for the playoffs. That's like, if you don't have Julio, you don't have much of a chance, right? I don't mean to discredit the rest of this team, which has been able to, you know, in the drought and accomplish all these things without him. But we've also seen how bad it can get without Julio as well on that road trip. and you do not want to go into a hostile environment in Toronto or Cleveland or wherever it's going to be or even at home and not have Julio Rodriguez by your side, not having the superstar of your franchise by your side. So you need him.

You need them as healthy as possible. So just do whatever you can to get him to Friday healthy. Well, as healthy as he possibly can be at this point. So yeah. You know, and again, you know, I with the way that this team has kind of handled injuries over the last month or so, and how kind of, let's just be honest about it, shady that's been. I do have a little bit of a concern about him rushing back here and re-injuring himself. So I'm just kind of crossing my fingers for the next few days, just hoping that nothing else flares up while he's out on the field or even during warm-ups or anything like that.

and they're able to get them to Friday. But again, just wrap them up and bubble wrap and get them to Friday. We just, we need them for Friday. We need them for Saturday. And hopefully you don't need to play on Sunday. Hopefully you don't need to play on Sunday. Do you know when the DS starts?

Is it Tuesday? Yes, I believe so. Tuesday and assuming the managers are the five, Tuesday in Houston. Gotcha, gotcha. All right. Well, let's talk about the wild card series, the pitching match.

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That's promo code Lockedon 15, L-O-N-1-5 for 15% off your order at built.com. You're listening to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Thank you so much for making us your first listen. Colby, there are a lot of Mariners fans out there that don't want Robbie Ray to start in the Wild Card series. Do you understand that? No. Okay. And why is that?

Why should Robbie Ray start in game two? Well, I didn't say game two, but yeah, he should start in game because he's been one of your three best pitchers, you know, for most of the season, if not all of the season. So I think we all know Castillo is going to start game one. That's a given. I think, you know, at this point, I still like a lot of people are trying to push Gilbert into a rotation spot here, which is weird because Gilbert's had the same inconsistencies as Ray. It's funny. If Ray goes out yesterday and goes six innings, gives up one earned, nobody's talking about this. It's no-brainer.

So I'm not going to let one start in a throwaway game against the Oakland days change my mind about anything. You know, and it comes down to really honest, like it comes down to a matchup too. I'm assuming that the Mariners are going to play in Toronto. That's my assumption. If I'm wrong, fine. Maybe we can discuss it again. But my assumption is that they're going to play in Toronto. And when you look at it, for me, Castillo,

obviously you're starting. And to me, you have to start Kirby. And if it comes down to Ray and Gilbert, the Toronto Blue Jays are a horrible matchup for Logan Gilbert. He has not fared well against them. They are a fastball crushing team. Logan Gilbert has to have fastball command. And if he doesn't, he's either going to walk a lot of guys

or he's going to leave a lot of pitches down the middle. And it doesn't matter how good your fastball is, the Blue Jays will crush it. You need something different. And I don't trust Logan Gilbert's breaking stuff. or off-speed stuff, for that matter, to be in the strike zone enough. Yes, he had a huge outing on Friday night. But again, Skinsie Oakland A's, Sean Murphy wasn't even the lineup.

It wasn't a good lineup. And he did what he was supposed to do and what he needed to do against a bad lineup. And so I'm not trying to take anything away from him. It was a great outing. But I'm not going to all of a sudden throw Robbie Ray out and ship Logan Gilbert in because of one outing each from both of them. You know, it's a good problem to have to have Logan Gilbert. you know, lurking in your bullpen for this series.

And you know what? If it does take three, well, guess what? I can still start Logan Gilbert in game one of the DS and then I can have Castillo back, you know, and I feel like I don't miss a beat because I have Gilbert waiting. And wouldn't you rather, just based on what we've seen so far, wouldn't you rather have Ray against the Blue Jays and Gilbert against the Astros, not the other way around? Because Ray has been terrible against the Astros.

Gilbert's been terrible against the Blue Jays. So why not? Yeah, I don't think I, like, I would not let Robbie Ray pitch against the Astros in Houston. Like, you know, if you do get to the DS, and again, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here. But if you do get to the DS, just real quick to touch upon this, I would try to avoid having Robbie Ray pitch at Minutemate Park at all costs, if I can. Right. But, you know, the thing about Ray, too, is that he misses bats. And missing bats in the playoffs is huge because every single run counts.

So when you talk about, well, you know, run around third one out, who do you want on the mound? Do you want Gilbert or do you want Robbie Ray? Well, you want Robbie Ray on the mound because Robbie Ray is going to miss more bats. He's more likely to get a strikeout and he's less likely to give up something hard hit. You know, despite how good Gilbert's been, you know, for pretty much most of the year, gives up a lot of hard contact. That's part of his game and hard contact and in the playoffs is bad. It's bad in the regular season too, but obviously everything is amplified in the playoffs.

So if I had more faith in Gilbert, you know, throwing that slider in there or, you know, being able to locate the change up, I might think differently. And against Cleveland, I actually think that matchup would be better for Gilbert because they do have lefties in that lineup. Gilbert can use the change up. And, you know, that is a team that makes a lot of soft contact anyway. So you're not looking for strikeouts against that team because they're hard to get. But against Toronto, you need something that breaks out of the strike zone. And Gilbert just doesn't have it right now. So I think if they were playing Cleveland, we might have a discussion here.

And maybe if they do end up going to Cleveland, we can talk about that. But to me, against Toronto, it's a no brainer. You're going Castillo, you're going Ray. You're going Kirby. And the only order I care about is Castillo goes game one against Gosman. Now, game three, though, isn't it Gilbert that's currently lined up for that? Assuming that he doesn't pitch on Wednesday? I believe it would be Kirby still.

Okay. So we'll see. Like I said, everything's kind of up in the air because they're going to use two non-rotation guys in the final series here. So it's a little bit up in the air. We'll see what they decide to do.

If they do go Gilbert over Kirby, I kind of get it. But again, I'd rather have Kirby because Kirby has more weapons. I don't get it. I don't get it at all. Yeah, I mean, like Kirby doesn't give up home runs.

He locates. he has, you know, an actual secondary and tertiary that he can work with and actually use. Right. And there's very little chance that he implodes, right? We've seen Gilbert go entire innings where he can't throw a strike where he wants it, like anywhere near. It's down the middle or it's a foot outside. That doesn't happen with George Kirby. The ceiling is pretty much the same between the two and the floor with Kirby significantly higher.

So to me, Gilbert is, you know, a great option. to start game one if you can get there of the DS. But I think if you're starting him against Toronto, you're probably playing from a deficit. So I just prefer Robbie Ray. I think he gives me a better chance to win that game than Logan Gilbert does, mostly based on matchup. Yeah, the thing for me is like,

I understand the uneasiness in the fan base, you know, with Ray starting a playoff game, especially against the lineup like Toronto's, you know, and all the home runs that he's given up and everything like that, but also, you know, if it's down to Ray or Gilbert, I'm still picking Robbie Ray, you know, because for all the reasons that you just mentioned, right? The matchup is just, it's, it's not great for Robbie Ray. Don't get me wrong. Plus, the Blue Jays kill left-handed pitching, but it's a, it's, you got to go with the higher upside here with this. It's kind of, you know,

it's just one of those situations and just Ray has more upside. Ray has a better. chance of getting through that lineup. While it's not, I don't feel that it's a great chance. I can very easily picture Robbie Ray getting just absolutely destroyed by the Blue Jays on Saturday. But I think there's a better chance

than Gilbert to maybe get through that lineup with only a couple runs and like 10 strikeouts. You know, like that's kind of the upside where with Gilbert it's like he, as you said, if he doesn't have, you know, anything secondary to really offer

Toronto, he's not going to miss bats, he's going to pitch to contact and that team crushes fastballs and that's really the only pitch that he's going to be able to consistently find the strike zone with, they're going to put that ball in play. And so, yeah,

I think just the higher upside play there is Ray. I don't feel great about it, but I think that's just what you have to go with right there in that spot. Yeah, I'd agree. I just Ray's also the veteran, right? He's your Sy Young Award winner.

You know, and he's pitched in the playoffs before, and I think that's something, you know, playoff experience. If you're looking at a tiebreaker, I think that's important. So, yeah, it's, I feel, again, like if Ray had gone out and pitched, you know, six innings of two run ball against Oakland, nobody's even talking about this. This feels like people want to reward Logan Gilbert for his outing rather than just set up the the rotation that gives you the best chance to win. And I feel like, you know, this, I don't even think this is a thought for Scott's service. I think he's locked in Castillo game one, Robbie Ray game two.

I think that's a lock. So, you know, playing all you want about it, that's how it's going to happen. Scott's already set it up that way. I think Kirby pitches tonight. So it's just how it's going to work, guys. You know, it's, would have been nicer if Ray had had to. good outing. Yeah. Yeah, it certainly would have. But, you know,

why you focus on the last outing or not, you know, the previous two where he was pretty good. Robbery is fine. He's a good pitcher. And, you know, he's had a couple blow-up starts this year. There's no guarantee that doesn't happen in the playoffs. It's totally possible. But Logan Gilbert could do that too, and Logan Gilbert has done that against the Blue Jays

repeatedly. So to me, it's, again, it's just such a no-brainer. It's Robbie Ray starting game two. I guess you can get cute and say game three, but he should start game two and you go with your two best guys, your two veterans, your 200 million dollar pitchers. Those are the guys you get the ball to because that's what you paid them to do and you let him do it. Yeah, exactly. And you know, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. And

that's just something you kind of have to live with, right? And then that's it, you know, you got to go to battle with your guys at the end of the day, the guys that you chose to lead this thing to spearhead this whole effort. And Robbie Ray is one of those guys, you know, So while it has been shaky at times for him this year, and there have been blow-up starts, like you said. And we've seen, you know, times where things just kind of snowball for him. Even with that, though, he's one of your guys. You got to go to battle with him.

And that's it, right? And this isn't a Marco Gonzalez situation either, where it's like, you know, I just got to go with him because of status. Like, that's not what I'm saying either here. Robbie Ray is an incredibly talented pitcher who can do this, who can work through that Toronto lineup or even Cleveland or whoever. It's just, you know, there obviously is some risk that goes along with that, but the reward far outweighs, I think, what the risk is for Gilbert.

And because Gilbert might straight up just, you know, and again, this isn't to discredit anything that, Logan Gilbert has done, especially over the last month or anything like that. But it's just Gilbert, it's also very easy to see him putting you at a severe disadvantage pretty early on. If things aren't working for him out of the gate, you don't want to be in Toronto down for nothing after the first couple of endings. Like you just, you're done. Like you're dead if that happens. And the playoffs is not the time to wait for a guy to figure it out.

Like, oh, we'll give him a couple endings to settle it. Nope. Nope. You got to go from the get going. You know, it's funny. We talked about Ray. You know, since June 12th, not counting the blowup start against Oakland. Okay.

In his previous 19 starts before Sunday, Robbie Ray's pitched 112.2 innings with only 32 walks, 132 strikeouts, a 272 ERA, and a 349 Fib. Yeah. Opponents hitting 216 with a 281 on base. He's been a number two for the best. better part of three or four months now. Stop letting one start change the whole narrative on what Robbie Ray is meant to the to the Mariners this year. It's stupid. All right.

So now that we've established that, now that we've gotten through that whole thing, because, you know, again, at the end of the day, right, it's going to happen. He's going to make that start. So it doesn't really matter what we say up here and, you know, whatever. Like, he's going to make the start. And basically that's why he should make the start. You know, it's just, it's basically it's Ray or Gilbert. And for just the fact that Ray has more weapons at his disposal, there's more probability there.

It's not a high probability necessarily, but it's a higher probability than Gilbert offers you. So for sure. All right. So anyway, so the Mariners yesterday made an announcement that you and I kind of already thought had happened. I mean, we were more or less referring to Justin Hollander as the Mariners general managers since Jerry was promoted to president of baseball operations. They no longer referred to him as the general manager for the longest time. And, you know, this is kind of a Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer situation, right?

And so Jerry is still the guy. He's still, you know, Justin Hollander answers to Jerry Depoto. So he makes the final say still. Jerry does. But Justin Hollander is now officially the general manager of the Seattle Mariners. and it's a well-earned promotion because Justin Hollander has been a really big piece to all of this to the rebuild and everything and you know of course he's you know many folks don't really know this but he's mostly the guy that actually does the groundwork and does a lot of the you know the client

or not necessarily client facing but you know talking with teams negotiating all that stuff you know he does all that stuff for Jerry and crew so He's been an instrumental part of the rebuild, and he absolutely deserves this promotion. And, you know, of course, he was getting general manager interests last winter. He got interest from the Angels before Perry Manasse. Of course. So, and this is also a way to kind of, you know, you give him a promotion. Give him, I'm sure there's a raise that comes along with that and all that stuff.

So you get to get him locked down as well. And he gets to, you know, I don't know if he'll necessarily serve a bigger role. I'm sure he's just going to be doing what he's been doing this whole time. But, yeah, you know, for status and all that stuff, it's well learned for Justin Hollander. Right. And, you know, it's something that the Mariners probably felt they had to do because the Mariners are going to get poached here. You know, you look at the success they've had in this rebuild. The front office is going to get poached.

You look at, you know, the success they've had in building culture. it's a pretty good chance the coaching staff is going to get poached at some point too. And the fact that Manny Acta really hasn't gotten any interest in managing is bizarre to me. He's a good baseball guy. You know, his last time he had management, last time, you know, managed. I think it was Cleveland and Washington. And those two teams were rebuilding dumpster fires and he never really got a fair shake there. You know, he's bilingual.

He's smart. He knows how to reach out to both veterans and the young guys. Maniacta deserves some looks at, you know, another man. manager's job. Pete Woodworth's probably going to get some looks. I wouldn't be surprised if we see him interview for a manager job somewhere. Like it, the Mariners are going to start getting poached. So you kind of have to start protecting the guys that that you think are vital to your success. And, you know, we talk about Jerry and Scott all the time. But, you know, Manny Acta's been here just as long as those three or just as long as those two. He was the bench coach.

He was interviewed for the Mariners managerial job when they gave it to Scott service. So I think people sometimes forget Maniac has been here along for the entire ride as well. And, you know, I think Justin Hollander has been here pretty much since the rebuild started. And like Ty said, Hollander is the guy who calls agents, he negotiates the contracts, he puts together trades. Like, Hollander's basically run the team as directed by Jerry Depoto, right? Jerry says this is what we want. And again, everything in the Mariners' run office and coaching staff, it's all a collaborative effort, right?

You know, there's the story about, you know, J.P. Crawford and, you know, how the mayors came to get J.P. Crawford. And it was, we gave everybody in our front office a blank, you know, field and said, put whoever you wanted, whatever position when you envision, you know, this team winning the World Series or whatever. And, you know, that's how they came across J.P. Crawford. And, you know, the way they found Jake Fraley was, you know, a couple of, you know, just statistician, just like bottom rung guys were sitting. in the back of the room during a meeting when they were discussing the Zanino trade. And one of them raised their hand and was like, maybe you guys should be looking at Jake Frealy. And they traded for Jake Frealy. It's a very collaborative effort. So, you know, as of like who deserves credit, nobody cares.

Nobody in that front office cares. Jerry Depoto and Hollander, you know, this is something that good teams do. The Cubs did it when they broke their drought with Hoyer and Epstein. The Dodgers are currently doing it. with Friedman and whatever the name of their GM is. You know, this is what teams do. They have kind of the baseball guy as the baseball president. And then they have their protege as the GM who kind of runs the day to day while the baseball president works on kind of the big picture.

You know, and it's it's another Billy. People still think Billy Bean is the GM of the open days. He hasn't been for like 10 years now. Yeah. He's the president or vice president, whatever his title is. And David Forst is the is the GM. and they've worked together really well for, for I think,

I think almost a decade now. It's been a while since Billy Bean's not been the actual GM of that team. So as far as like how this changes the structure, it doesn't. Business as usual. Hollander gets the bump. He probably gets a pay bump. And now you keep him because why would Hollander leave for a GM job?

He has one. Yeah. And he has one for a team that's on the rise and a team that he helped build. He's not going anywhere now. So you lock that in. And so the structure is going to be the same. It's promoting from within. It's rewarding, you know, and we talked about how important it is for the Mariners to reward their own.

They did it with Julio. They did it with JP. You know, they did with Evan White. They're going to look to do it with some other guys. Like they did it on the team, like the actual players on the team. They're doing it with their front office and they're doing it with their coaching staff as well. So nothing about this is worrisome. Nothing about this is, you know, oh, is, you know, Jerry out or anything like I saw somebody like,

why isn't anybody talking about? you know how depoto was getting all the credit when it was really haunt and it's like because nobody cares you know when we talk about the draft we know that's scott hunter but what do we say jerry depoto why because they all work together jerry depoto runs the entire show they all so they all report jerry has the final sale yeah he has the final say it's ultimately up to him at the end of the day he's the one that pushes the button well stanton has the final say stan of course yeah yeah it goes john stanton and then right below him is jerry

photo. Yeah. And then below that is Hollander and the rest and et cetera. For the, yes, for baseball. Yeah, for baseball.

And then obviously Katie Griggs on the other. Katie Griggs. Kevin Martinez. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Yeah.

So, you know, at the end of the day, nothing really changes. You might see like Justin Hollander making more radio appearances and stuff like that during the off season. He might be doing more of the radio hits that Jerry would typically do. But that's about it.

like you'll see him at the winter meetings maybe getting interviews actually and stuff like that that's really all that will change aside from you know the title and everything so uh nothing to really be concerned about or uh it's really not even that noteworthy because again colby and i were working on the year under the impression that hollander was already the general manager for the last year or so and i'm sure that's actually how it was operating right so so They just didn't actually make it official until now, which is kind of weird. I don't know why it took a whole year to do that, but whatever. It's happened now. And Justin Hollander is now the general manager of the Mariners. And that's pretty cool. Good for him. Good for his family.

Congratulations to them. And yeah. So that's going to be about it for the show today. We're going to be, you know, talking more about the playoffs and everything as the picture comes more into focus. and, you know, depending on what happens tonight, we might have a clearer idea of where the Mariners are going to end up playing this weekend. I would think definitely by the end of tomorrow's games. So we'll know for sure,

especially because the Mariners have two games tomorrow. So that's going to have a pretty large impact on what's going, I would think. So, yeah, so we'll know what's up. And yeah, we'll talk about all that. We'll talk about all the potential matchups and all the. storylines that are going to be going on with this. It's going to be a lot of fun. Colby and I haven't

haven't done this before, but we're going to, we're going to try our best. and it's going to be, we're going to have a lot of fun doing it. So thank you so much for tuning into the Locked-on Mariners podcast. For Colby Pat node, I'm Tadang Gonzalez.

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