Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - If Andrés Muñoz Misses Time, Which Relievers Can the Mariners Get Right Now?

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Mariners survived to win last night, but potentially at a cost. We'll talk about Andreas Munoz's injury and some options to help beef up the bullpen in this reliever-centric episode of the Locked-on Marrars podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors. It is Wednesday, June 5th, 2024.

Starting point is 00:00:30 This is Tading Azales and Colby Patnode for the Lockdown Marers Podcast. part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Pretty sketchy 4 to 3 win for the Marys last night. Anders Munoz had to leave the game early with a back issue. We'll talk about that, as well as the Marys moving their top pitching prospect to the bullpen. And then we'll look at some bullpen options outside the organization. The Marys can potentially land right now.

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Starting point is 00:01:25 let's uh let's talk a little bit about that game last night like i said pretty sketchy win but it is a win after all and they all count the same but I would classify the Mariners pitching or at least watching when they were on defense last night as anxiety inducing. The A's bats were pretty relentless from the sixth inning onward. They had at least one base runner in each of those last four innings of this game. But again, the Mariners were able to survive.

Starting point is 00:01:55 They were able to survive the injury to Andreas Munoz. Taylor Sossato was able to close the door against Brent Rooker. of all people too. A pretty tough spot for for sauce to be in there. But he got the job done. So that's great. Takeaways from last night's game, Colby. It was a weird game simply because, you know,

Starting point is 00:02:21 George Kirby pretty good, not great. We've certainly seen them a lot worse. We've certainly seen him better. Offense, fine, but not great. They scored four runs. They had 10 hits. They only struck out seven times. Those are all good things.

Starting point is 00:02:35 But, you know, you watch the game and it's like they had a lot of, you know, non-competitive at bats in the last four or five innings of that game. So it was just kind of a weird game. The bullpen, like, good enough to get the job done, not very good, like in totality. So it was just kind of a weird game. And you got to give Oakland a lot of credit. You know, they very clearly wanted to, you know, get Kirby's pitch count up. They didn't chase really all that much. They fouled off a ton of pitches. Like they went to battle with two strikes. They didn't roll over.

Starting point is 00:03:08 So even though they struck out nine times, they got it to a point where, you know, Kirby probably shouldn't have gone back out, you know, in the sixth. Although, you know, that's subjective. It wasn't an egregious decision by Scott to send him back out there. He just kind of felt like he was done. It was a lot of long innings for him that day. We know that he's still got the knee thing,

Starting point is 00:03:28 although we don't know how big of an issue that is now still. But, you know, it just looked like he was done. And they tried to stretch him. And it's not hard to see why. because the middle of the mare's bullpen stinks. So, you know, it's just one of those things where, you know, Oakland did a lot of things to make you uncomfortable. They really did a nice job at the plate of, you know,

Starting point is 00:03:51 fouling off good pitches and not chasing pitchers pitches. Like they had a lot of really good at bats. Especially in that ninth inning. It was very frustrating to watch. Right. I mean, on the ninth inning, too, a couple of those hits. They're, you know, seeing eye singles. It just happened to be hit in the right spot.

Starting point is 00:04:05 They both had expected batting averages of under 100. And then, you know, Blatay doesn't chase. And all of a sudden, it's the base is juiced. And so they did a really good job of just, you know, not handing the Mariners free outs. Like you had to earn all 27 outs. And so, you know, you got to give Oakland a lot of credit. That's about as good as, you know, as good as they could hope to do in terms of like executing a game plan against this mayor's pitching staff. And so I guess in a way, like good on the Mariners for finding.

Starting point is 00:04:35 way to win a game where they didn't play all that well and Oakland did play pretty well. But it was just a weird game overall, very weird vibe. You know, it never felt settled. It was not pleasant. It was not a pleasant viewing experience, that's for sure. No, like you said, it was a really weird game where a lot of ups and downs in this one where, you know, for a time there, it looked like the mirrors were going to run away with this one. You know, they had the four doubles in the third inning.

Starting point is 00:05:01 They put up three on Mitch Spence. and then, you know, the game goes along and it's like, wow, the A's kind of looked like the better team tonight. It looks like the marons are possibly going to blow this thing, especially once we got to the ninth. Munoz obviously looked not right, which let's talk about that now. They said that the injury flared up. This is obviously, according to them, been something that he's been dealing with for a while. This back issue, apparently he's been wearing a brace while pitching, which makes his dominance all the more impressive

Starting point is 00:05:35 over the last little while here. There was a shot of him earlier on in his outing where he was kind of stretching the back out. He obviously threw his first pitch in the dirt. Just didn't seem like he was right. Friend of the show, Ben Renieri was at the game, sitting behind home plate. He was telling me when it was happening,

Starting point is 00:05:53 like Munoz doesn't look right. And then obviously the collision at the plate, you're worried about his ankle or his knee or something like that. thankfully nothing like that occurred there but they did say that the back flared up on that but i don't know i feel like it was already kind of causing him some issues so he's going to undergo an MRI today you we might actually have news of this by the time this episode actually uh drops um we might have an update on munoz uh the hope right now is just something that you know maybe tightened up on him he added you know the last couple days off maybe it tightened up on him on the flight or something

Starting point is 00:06:29 like that, who knows, and he's only going to need a few days to kind of recover and get back to as close to 100% as he can be. But if this is more of a long-term issue, I mean, Jerry's got to get on the phone immediately, right? Because like, you're running with Austin Voth, Trent Thornton, Taylor Saucato, Mike Bauman, etc. to close up games for you. Yeah, Ryan Stanick. All of them would require them pitching in more high leverage roles than they already are. not going to work. It's not going to work the way you want it to. So yeah, you know, it's,

Starting point is 00:07:07 Munoz obviously spiked the first pitch and, you know, I think he fell behind 3-0 on the first hitter. And then he spiked the wild pitch, you know, later in the game to make it a one-run game. So he very clearly was not 100% before, you know, before the collision at the play. And we've seen the Mariners kind of try and do this. Like they're trying to,

Starting point is 00:07:28 I don't want to say they're trying to push guys through injuries, but, you know, Kirby had the knee thing, right? Wu has this arm thing. Munoz has this back thing. They, you know, kept Polanco active for 10 days, even though he couldn't play. Like, they just seem very hesitant to use the IL. And, you know, they're trying to, like, manage these guys and get them through these things without losing them. And, you know, you can do that.

Starting point is 00:07:53 And at some, to some extent, you have to do stuff like that because you just can't put a guy on the aisle every single time. like he sleeps wrong and his neck is sore. Like you have to, there are things you have to push through and you have to manage small things like this throughout the year. But it feels like the mayor has been very hesitant to use the IO. They probably don't feel great about their depth. And in this particular case,

Starting point is 00:08:14 they probably shouldn't because you go look down at what's, you know, what's available in AAA. Nobody down there in that bullpen is throwing the ball particularly well this year. So like as much as, as hype as I was about Carlos Vargas, yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:29 hasn't really figured it out. He's been a little bit better recently. Yeah, we were pretty high on the on the depth they had built down in AAA with with Vargas, with with Crable, with buttree, with all those guys and just none of them. I mean, like right now, Colin Snyder is up with the team still over those guys. Right. And so yeah, and those guys are all middle guys anyways. So yeah. You know, it's it sucks. You know, you didn't anticipate losing brash for the season. You didn't anticipate, you know, possibly losing Santos for the season. You know, it's spire is still up in the air, but it's, if you get them back before the All-Star break, I'd consider that a pretty big upset. So you almost lost Sato for a long time. So yeah,

Starting point is 00:09:13 it's been a disaster on the injury front with the bullpen. And Seattle has really tried to manage these injuries instead of like, hey, let's just put them on the IL for 10 days, get them right. And then we'll, you know, we'll reassess there. So they, they're really trying to push these guys through this thing. And, you know, the players are obviously trying to push through it too. And it's, you know, like the Mariners didn't even know that Spire was hurting, apparently. Spire had to tell them that he had been pitching through, what was it, a shoulder thing for a couple weeks at that point. So, you know, players are trying to gut it out. You know, the coaching staff and, you know, the trainers, they're doing their best to make sure these guys can play as much as they possibly can.

Starting point is 00:09:52 but it's been a really weird year on how the Mariners have kind of handled these type of injuries. Yeah, so we're going to talk about some options they could look at to acquire right this second if they have to do something like that. I mean, even if Munoz is still good to go, they should probably still add someone

Starting point is 00:10:09 like we've talked about for the last couple weeks, like an actual mid-to-high leverage arm. We'll do that a little later on in the show, but first we're actually going to talk about another potential option for the bullpen that has apparently cropped up here over the last 24 hours. Just a moment, but first, a reminder of this episode of the Lockdownerrors podcast is brought to you by GameTime. Game Time is now an authorized ticket marketplace of Major League Baseball, which makes getting tickets even faster and easier.

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Starting point is 00:11:21 And you're listening to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. You can catch a game two between the M's and the A's tonight on the Mariners hometown broadcast with Sirius XM via the SXM app. All you have to do to find that is search the word Mariners. So we're talking all about the bullpen on today's episode. We got some pretty interesting news yesterday that the mayor's top pitching prospect, Logan Evans, has now been moved to the bullpen down in AA. and that would seem to indicate that they're getting him ready to make his major league debut at some point. I'm sure we all remember them doing this with Edwin Diaz a few years back, and that obviously worked out amazingly.

Starting point is 00:12:04 For Diaz, that took him about three weeks for him to get ready to make his major league debut. So I would think Evans is on a similar timeline, assuming that that all works out that he takes to that role well and whatnot. So what do you think about that? move. Is this kind of a sign of desperation or are you actually excited about the possibility of what Logan Evans can bring to the

Starting point is 00:12:27 table? Yeah, I'm more concerned than excited just because unlike Edwin Diaz, there is a very clear path to Logan Evans being a solid starting pitcher at the big league level. I think, you know, we think about Diaz, we obviously think now the nasty

Starting point is 00:12:46 slider, 98 to 100. That wasn't who he was. when he made the transition. He was 93, 94 with a pretty good slider, but, you know, probably about 50 grade slider and like a 30 grade change up with 40, 45 command of control. He was a good athlete, but he was really, he was really small, right? So there is durability concerns there. So Evans, meanwhile, is like 6 foot 3.

Starting point is 00:13:11 He's like 200 pounds. He's got a super smooth delivery. He's 93 to 94, can touch 95, 96. And apparently inside sessions, he's even. hit 99 a hundred so uh but it's very smooth delivery uh the the breaking stuff is is getting there it's pretty solid right now but it's not plus or anything like that he does have a change up and he's got a four seamer and a two seamer he's got a little bit of a cutter like he he's a kitchen sink type of guy so uh he definitely can start at the major league level probably as soon as

Starting point is 00:13:42 next year if they need them to and so i'm wondering like how like how extreme are the mayor is going to get with this. Are they going to shorten up his delivery? Are they going to try and speed him up to try and extract every ounce of, you know, velocity and spin out of him that they can? And they could do that. But the concern there then is that you, you know, kind of not necessarily go back to square one to get him ready to start again if you need him to next year or the year after. But it's just, you know, it's a concern you could throw your mechanics out of wax for when you do go back to starting. like obviously learning how to do that is is difficult and it puts new strain on your body that you're not used to. So I'm a little bit concerned about, you know, how they plan to handle Evans in the long term.

Starting point is 00:14:28 If they're just going to basically tell them like, hey, just go about this like you would as a starter, but you know, you're going to come in out of the bullpen. Then I think that's probably the best. But if they want to try and extract some high leverage out of this guy right now, they kind of have to speed him up and he's got to be sitting 98, 99, which we know he can touch. but it's a big difference between, you know, pitching one inning and pitching six innings. So we don't know like if the velocity can can play up if he loses his command and control with the fastball and his velocity is that high. We don't know what the movement's like on the pitch.

Starting point is 00:15:02 And we don't know of speeding him up like his delivery up and maximizing his spin is actually going to make the curveball or slider significantly better. So I don't know exactly what their role is here. My guess, just based on how they used him last night, you know, even is that it's kind of a multi-ending like, hey man, like probably not stylistically, but probably like you go be calling the queue for us over the next couple months where you go two or three like,

Starting point is 00:15:28 hey, you know what, Brian Wu's only going to go four today. We're going to short script them. You get the next two after that. So I'm a little concerned that, you know, this will throw out his,

Starting point is 00:15:37 throw off his development as a starting pitcher a little bit. But again, you know, you kind of give the merits of the benefit of the doubt in this regard. It's also kind of a similar plan to what they did with Matt Brash even more recently than Edwin Diaz. But Evans doesn't have the stuff that Brash had when they made that transition. But I'm not so sure that he doesn't have similar enough stuff to Edwin Diaz when he made that transition that it couldn't work.

Starting point is 00:16:04 But I'm just a little bit concerned because I do think that Evans' future is as a starting pitcher. Whereas when they did this with Diaz, it was pretty clear at that point that at best he was going to be a number, five starter at the big league level. I think Evans could be, you know, a really good number four, even a low in three if he just maintains course. So we'll see what the mayor's want to do. We'll see what their game plan is, you know, how they plan to get them ready to get big league hitters out. But obviously it's it's super interesting because Evans is the best pitching prospect in the system. And I don't think it's really close at this stage. And that also might say a bit more about the state of the mayor's pitching in their farm right now than anything. but you know we've heard jerry depoto even on this show talk about logan heavens like they are very very very high on logan evans he's at a really good year the down in devil libel he's not striking out a lot of guys averaging less than a k per nine uh eight and better

Starting point is 00:16:59 averaging less than a k per inning i should say uh 8.1 uh case per nine this year 270 walks per nine uh over 53 and a third innings pitch that's uh 10 starts 11 appearances and total. He made his first appearance as a reliever last night, gave up a run unearned. 118 ERA 362 FIPP down in double A. Right. The case per nine have gone up pretty significantly after the month of April. He started to miss a lot more bats. And so overall, that number is deflated. But he has started to miss more bats here as he's kind of got acclimated. And we need to keep this in mind, to prior to this year Logan Evans had five professional games right in Modesto so he completely skipped high a and he made what he said 10 starts in double a and now he's getting you know

Starting point is 00:17:56 getting essentially confirmed that he will make his major league debut this year and it'll probably be sometime if not before the all-star break immediately after the all-star break so this is a It's not a rush job, but it is a, this is a very fast track to the big leagues. Yeah, if it's a similar timeline to Diaz and July 1st, potentially. For Evans. So, yeah. So we'll have to keep an eye on him and his next few outings down in double A. It's really interesting stuff.

Starting point is 00:18:28 But the mayor is ultimately, they need to get some established help in the bullpen ASAP, whether or not Andres Munoz has to go on the aisle. Yeah, real fast. Let your prop talk. There's some milestones to look at as we- Hold on. Let me interrupt you real quick so I can bounce my ego off of you. Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:49 Thanks for listening. I'm not quite sure what podcast you're listening to, but I appreciate it either way. I don't think he's ever listened to a podcast before, by the way. Maybe that was his first one. Like, we don't know. Welcome to the wonderful world of podcasts, friend. Sure, sure. I guess like a couple of milestones to look for.

Starting point is 00:19:07 you're like, how close is Logan Evans? And this could change if they have to like brush him even more. Like maybe Munoz goes on the IL and they're just like, put Evans up here. Like he's our best bet. So, but obviously you want to see him last night, he went two innings. Now you want to see like how fast can how fast is he get back into the game. How fast is he recover? Does he need three days?

Starting point is 00:19:29 Well, that's not going to work right. If you're a reliever. So you want to see him pitch, you want to see him go pitch, day off pitch. Then you want to see him throw back. to back to back games. You want to see him come like in the middle of an inning and get a couple of guys out and then maybe go sit and then come back out and do that. So, you know, there's a lot of things that, you know, you don't do as a starter, right?

Starting point is 00:19:49 You don't start an inning with guys on base as a starter. That's something you want to do as a reliever. You know, you don't have, you don't pitch back to back games as a starter. You don't pitch, you know, twice in three days or three times and four days as a starter. So some of the stuff he's going to have to do for the first time at the big league level. But when you start wondering like, hey, how soon is he? well, has he pitching back-to-back games yet? No, they might ask him to do that for the first time at the big league level,

Starting point is 00:20:12 but they're not going to ask him to go two games in three days for the first time at the big league level. So that's something to watch. Has he gone into a game with runners on base? Has he inherited runners? No. Well, they're probably not going to ask him to do that for the first time at the big league level. So just think about all the things that a reliever has to face that a starter typically doesn't.

Starting point is 00:20:31 And once you start to see enough of those things get checked off, then you can start to anticipate, hey, he's probably, you know, X. number of days away, give or take, from being called up. Absolutely. All right. So let's look outside the organization at some relievers. The Maris could potentially land right this second in just a moment. But first, a reminder, this episode of the Lockdown Maris podcast is once again brought to you by

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Starting point is 00:21:26 And you're listening to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Once again, you can catch a game too between the M's and the A's tonight on the Marra's hometown broadcast with Sirius XM via the SXM app. All you have to do to find that is search the word Mariners and Asper, recording this, the Houston Astros have lost to the St. Louis Cardinals. So the mayors have the ability tonight to expand their lead over the Astros to eight games.

Starting point is 00:21:48 See if the Rangers will get swept by the Tigers tonight, which would also present the opportunity to the Marys to extend their AL West lead to six and a half games. Let's talk about the bullpen some more here. Like I said,

Starting point is 00:22:04 this is a reliever-centric code. Let's now look outside the organization. We already talked about this. Like if Andres Munoz has to go on the IL, if we get bad news today, Jerry has to get on the phone immediately. Justin Hollander has to get on the phone immediately. They have to do it. They cannot proceed with just Ryan Stannock and Trent Thornton and Austin Voth trying to hold things down. Like they just can't do that.

Starting point is 00:22:27 No matter how light their schedule is starting to get. Can't do it. They need to get established at least mid to high leverage help right now. So who could that be? Colby, who do you think is actually available right now on June 5th? That's the tricky part, right? Yeah. Who's actually available?

Starting point is 00:22:48 So you have to kind of look at the teams that are absolutely 100% already selling. Miami, Oakland, Chicago, maybe the Mets. And that's pretty much it because everybody else just seems to be hovering around 500. So they're not really sure which way they're going to go. So you start looking at, you know, release. who could be available. If you trade for one this early, it's going to cost you a little bit more

Starting point is 00:23:13 than if you wait for a month, but you kind of don't have that luxury. So the first guy who jumps out is actually playing you tonight in theory, unless you want to pull that trigger ahead of time. Austin Adams, the Mariners and their fans, very familiar with Adams.

Starting point is 00:23:28 You know, definitely misses a lot of bats. He kind of fails in that seventh inning role, ideally, but obviously, if Munoz is going to miss time, he's the guy who could get some high leverage outs for you. You know, Tanner Scott is a guy that we talked about a lot already. He's a rental. He's really started to turn it around here recently.

Starting point is 00:23:46 The numbers are back under control. Another guy who can miss some bats, get some high leverage outs for you. He's a lefty. By Fangraph standards last year, he was the most valuable reliever in all baseball, which I disagree with. But he still had a really good year last year. Right. I mean, it's definitely.

Starting point is 00:24:01 And again, the beauty of Tanner Scott is that if you acquire him now, for example, right? not only do you get another month or six weeks of value out of him than you would have you waited but when Munoz comes back look I already got the high leverage arm I needed right you know early so that's one less thing I have to do at the deadline even if it cost me a little bit more to get it done now so Tanner Scott's a pretty obvious one and then one of my like dark horse favorites here Michael Kopeck former starter failed starter for the white socks he's got a really good fastball he's got a year and a half left I believe of club control yeah great fastball throws it about 80% of the time it sits 98 to 100 yeah uh he's also averaging 30% whiff rates on both the fastball and the slider right now I believe which the merrists could really use some more swing and miss in their bullpen yeah the slider is is not a joke either like it's a good pitch it's a really good pitch just the basketball is a great pitch and you know this year he's transition to the bullpen he's throwing more strikes he doesn't throw a lot of strikes but that's okay. You know, Matt Brash doesn't throw a lot of strikes either. That's just the tradeoff you make.

Starting point is 00:25:10 You have filthy stuff. You can miss. You can get a lot of swings and misses. Um, you know, if you can do all that, you can get, if you can get all those swings and misses, then you're okay walking a couple extra guys more so than you would think. So, uh, if you're just looking for a high leverage play, like you're hoping to maybe even tweak something a little bit more and get a little bit more out of a guy, like Kopec is, is the guy that I would look at. And, uh, we know. that the White Sox are open for business right now. Of course they are. So yeah, that's the guy that I would go talk to and, or that's a guy I would, you know,

Starting point is 00:25:44 go talk to his team and try to get because I think you get him right now. And I think you can get him for, you know, it's not going to cost you one of your top 15 prospects, I don't think. So, yeah, Kopec is probably the guy that I would actually try and go get right now if I had to pick one. But there's quite a few other options that make a lot of sense. Dude, the White Sox have lost their last 12 games. Well, they've won 15 games all year, and it's June 5th.

Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah, they are 15 and 46 right now. I think they're open for business. So I guess the biggest remaining question here is what would it take to actually acquire those guys? And what are you willing to give up to make a deal happen right now? Sure. Adams is a rental who costs Oakland nothing. and there's some serious regression scare there for a guy who's also had a lot of injury concerns. So to me, I think the best prospect you'd have to give up to get like Austin Adams, like Carlos Vargas, like I really do think this is like, hey, we'll trade you five years of this potential high leverage guy for, you know, three months of this current leverage guy. But it might, you know, Oakland sometimes likes Bolt.

Starting point is 00:27:02 So it might be like Marcelo Perez and Axel Sanchez and Troy Taylor, right? Like it might be something like that. Tanner Scott probably going to cost a little more. He's got a bit more of a track record is a high leverage guy. So that might be maybe Ryan Bliss kind of as the headliner there. Just them they need shortstop help. Bliss can play there right now if they need them to. So, you know, maybe Ryan Bliss is the headliner there.

Starting point is 00:27:35 I think that's probably the most I'd be willing to do someone in the in the Bliss bucket. And then Kopeck is an interesting one. I think for a guy like Kopeck, I do like. You said it's a year and a half left for him, right? I think, I think so, yeah. So I do like Klaise and I probably do something like Klausé and like, Klausé and like maybe a Marcello. Perez or maybe like Walter Ford.

Starting point is 00:28:06 It's probably a pretty similar package to what you gave them for Gregory Santos. Yeah. Less club control, obviously. So, but I do think that, you know, Classet is probably a little bit better than Deloge. Well, and let's just be real about it. You probably get taxed a little bit because you're trying to make a deal happen right now, instead of at the deadline. So, yeah, like, I think Chicago, like, if I'm trading Kopeck right now, like, I'm really interested in.

Starting point is 00:28:35 and Claese because he's a guy that I could just give playing time to this year. Yeah. I, you know, he brings some kind of excitement factor to me. I get him for six years, you know, actually seven years. And I have the abats to give him. So I think Clause is a guy who's going to be really appealing to somebody like the White Sox, especially since, you know, in theory, I mean, he's not major league ready, but you can put him on the major league field and, you know, tell, your fans of this guy's part of the future.

Starting point is 00:29:07 And you got him for a year and a half of a reliever who you were probably set to non-tender if this year didn't go the way that you wanted it to. So I think Klaus A can carry that. But I think it'll be... If they come back to you and they're like Michael O'Royle, are you out? Are you telling them to tick hike? Considering how much you need this help. I really like Michael O'Roy.

Starting point is 00:29:33 I feel like he's underrated. Yeah. Like can I get like, can you? can you throw in Tommy fam? And I just give you, you know, you give me fam and Kopeck and I'll give you Michael Oroyo. But yeah, the White Sox also might might do bulk. They did bulk for Aaron Bummer. So, you know, it's a little tough to say right now, but I'm certainly willing to discuss the

Starting point is 00:29:55 Claiss, the Ryan Bliss, as much as I like the dude. You know, Michael Morales. And again, like, because these teams are probably looking two, three, four years down the line, This is where guys like AJ Izzy and Walter Ford could carry some interesting value in these deals as well. So the mayors can absolutely afford to get one of these guys right now. It's just a matter of, you know, are other teams being remotely reasonable with their ask at this time of year? And we don't know. That's going to do it for our show.

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