Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Is It Time For the Seattle Mariners to MOVE ON From Their Brendan Donovan Pursuit?!

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

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So what are the Mariners up to right now? Colby, hit it. You are Locked-on Mariners, your daily Seattle Mariners podcast, part of the Locked-on Podcast Network, your team every day. Ahoy, sailors, it's Wednesday, January 7th, 2026. You're listening to the Lockdown Marers podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network. now the number one sports podcast network. My name is Tiding Azalus,

and I'm joined us always by McCos, Colby Patton, who are two lifelong Mariters fans who've been covering the team for over half a decade, and today we're going to talk about, well, why there's nothing to talk about. What are the Mariners up to you right now? Are they waiting for a shoe to drop in the market? Is it time for them to move on

from the Brendan Donovan pursuit? And how close are we getting to where really no other significant moves becomes a real possibility for them? We'll cover all of that, but before we do, I want to shout out our title sponsor today, Fandual. Before tip off, check the Fandual app

and see what's dropping during NBA Happy Hour every Friday from 6 to 7.30 p.m. Eastern. All right, so I lied a little bit. There is something to talk about, Colby. We have news. The Seattle Mariners have made a huge minor league signing, bringing in Patrick Wisdom, who was in the KBO in 2025. He's back, though.

if you remember patrick wisdom was in camp with the mayors in 2020 before the pandemic hit and everything got shut down he played in 13 spring training games for the i forget if he was in the camp you know when everything reopened or not but uh yeah he uh he never actually played in an official game for uh the mariners or uh one of their minor league affiliates uh wound up going to the cubs the year after actually hit 28 bombs that year put up a 1117 WRC plus the problem is he also struck out 41% of the time that year the year after that he hit 25 bombs put up a 106 WRC plus he also struck out 34.3% of the time and the KBO this past year he hit 35 bombs which that makes sense you got a guy that has a ton of power he goes over to the KBO he's probably going to mash he's launched 236 321 535 in the KBO 126 WRC plus and put up a career low 29.2% K rate also a career high

10.7% walk rate so there you go. So yeah, it's all jokes aside, it's Oregon depth but we're star for news so any little morsel of Seattle Mariners and breaking and by the way, this news comes from our friend

Arm Layton of Just Baseball. I forgot to mention that. So shout out to Arm forgetting the news. out there but yeah i'll i'll take it because again there's nothing else to talk about right now with the mariners like there are no there aren't even any rumors and we will get into that over the course of this episode but uh yeah yeah um you know you got to make triple a tacoma fun too and right now i don't i don't know who's on that roster uh because it seems pretty

can patrick wisdom have 50 bombs of the PCL no maybe Maybe. Yeah, I mean, like, look, obviously this is just a warm body who might be able to play third if everything goes horribly wrong for you at some point this year. So that's all it is. It's a depth move. You're just trying to fill out your AAA roster with somebody who might come up to the big league level and give you something, you know, even if it's only for a couple days, he might run into one and give you a nice home run. It's the Routi-Talaz idea. It's the same thing.

And, you know, you hope that you don't need. need you don't need to be in that situation and unfortunately for the mariners because of the offseason they had last year they kind of were forced to be in a situation where they needed rowdy to les way more than they should have and yeah so wisdom is kind of that similar it's it's an insurance policy it's not much won but whatever it's it's a warm body with some major league time understands the game understands who he is as a player and you know he's a right-hand hitter who can stand at third base and that's pretty much it but yeah he's he's triple late depth and you hope you don't end up needing him. But right now, the mariner's

pretty thin at third base options. So, you know, you might as well bring this guy in, give him spring training and see what happens. So, you know, nothing too exciting, but it is a new name. And for all of you who say the Mariners have lost touch with, you know, bringing over the players from the Asian leagues, well, boom, Patrick Wisdom. boom you looking for this boom oh they didn't sign anybody from the kb oh they didn't sign anybody from what is the japanese league called again the mpb there you go oh well guess what they just did

boom right who needs munitaka murakami or kazama okamoto when you can have patrick weston and patrick wisdom right that's right that's right so On a much larger scale here, though, Colby, what do you think the barons are up to right now? Because we haven't heard anything. There haven't been any rumors about them. There have been, like, Mariners adjacent rumors. Like, the pirates are apparently interested in Eugenio Swaras.

The Cubs are apparently talking to teams about Nico Horner. I would assume that the Marriers are one of those teams that have talked to the Cubs about Nico Horner, but we haven't actually heard that specifically. I think you can take that to the bank, though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but right now, yeah, it's just a lot of assumptions being made. So if you had to guess, like, are the Mariners just like, have they put their offers out to the Cardinals for Brennan Donovan and the Diamondbacks for Ctele Marte and the Cubs for Nico Horner? And, you know, they've made a free agent offer to A. E. Oh, and now they're just like chilling or do you think maybe they're like waiting for some other shoe to drop in the market? Like, what do you think is happening right now?

Look, the team needs to be better. I understand that. And obviously because they're not going to be big spenders in free agency, we know this. They kind of have to wait that this is the problem when you're so relying on the trade market is that you kind of have to wait for there to be movement on anything. You can't just magically force the Cardinals to come to their senses and be like, oh, you know what? Vernon's not a star player by any stretch. We need to be realistic about what we can get for them. You can't force the other team to accept your deal.

So you kind of have to sit there and wait and you hope that whenever, everything stops. When the music stops, you're not standing there without a chair. Again, that's the problem with being a trade only type of team. You have to be willing to dive into free agency. And we, so far, we have no reason to suspect that the Mariners are willing to do that. If that's the market you're going to play, that's fine. But you have to actually push deals through, you know, across the finish line. And when there's no deadline like there is in the summer, that can take some time and you know up with these long dead periods. But again, you know, we should like we talked about a few weeks ago or a few weeks ago. probably a few days ago, if that even. The, you know, the Mariners have gotten quite a few deals done in January leading up to spring training, you know, just that 2024 or, well, 23 into 24 offseason alone. They added like six guys to their 26 man and in a five weeks of January and February. So I think they're probably working, but I think they're mostly like, hey, we're kind of have what we have and it's out there. and we want somebody to accept. And again, like I get why that would be the case on the bat front,

but you still need a bullpen arm. You could still use some starting pitching depth. Like, there are still other moves you could be making in the meantime. So I'm not quite sure what the holdup is on that end. Maybe money's tighter than we thought it was. I don't know. Well, that brings me back to a question that I asked a couple weeks ago. You know, because again, at the winter meetings,

Jerry outright said like we want to add another reliever and he specifically mentioned you know free agent veteran types you know a lot of guys have flown off the market since he said that I wonder if maybe it got down to an either an either or situation with Rob Ruff Snyder and that extra bullpen arm it was like we can do one of these things but not both and they just they chose Ruff Snyder uh because like any money that can help you there's but there's so many relievers that have gone off the board that made sense for them that got

very reasonable contracts that got roughly around the same money that they gave Ruff Snyder you know Ron Armstrong is a guy that that immediately comes to mind in that regard and like there's still like some guys out there you know and we've talked about that we've talked about like the Michael Copax and guys

like that but they're very yeah they're very limited options now relative to you know what the market was looking like when when Jerry said that back in December and we just haven't heard anything since that about it. Or it could simply be that the Mariners feel very good

that they can acquire a reliever on the trade market that they're going to like and so right now they're focusing on the bat and it's like look we can always get to the reliever like Gregory Santos was the last piece of that off season and that happened in February like there are going to be

other Gregory Santos opportunities out there the mayors feel pretty confident they can get one of those guys. Then I guess it would make sense to kind of put that on the back burner but sure while you're just sitting here waiting for the bat like if you're not in on more guys than we think you're in on there's no reason not to be more involved in the reliever market and get try and get something done on that end right now and it's just hard to envision that they're in on like a secret player a player that you know you and i haven't been able to identify just we've you know been left to

our own devices and so much time here in between moves i feel like we've we've we've covered it everyone and we've covered every possibility but we'll see um you know and it hasn't the barrens haven't really surprised us much over the last couple years they used to you know like the the jesse winker thing kind of came out of nowhere for us you know Gregory santos came out of nowhere for us but for the most part they've the guys that they've acquired they've been like the obvious fits you know i guess they heard they liked in the past etc yeah yeah i guess like Teo was kind of out of nowhere, but, you know, we had talked about Teo, you and I.

That happened pretty early in the offseason, though. I feel like it had been mid-January would have talked about him as a possibility at some point. So, yeah, like I guess Justin Turner kind of, but that deadline deal, like whatever. But yeah,

typically the players that mayors end up acquiring are players that we have heard at some point. It's Randy or Rosarana, yeah. Right. It's Josh Naylor. It's Gino again. Like all those guys made sense. and we talked about them.

Winker is kind of the one that stands. Robbie Ray, but that's a free agent signing. So, but yeah. So it's hard to buy the idea. This is all to say that it's hard to buy the idea that they're in on other players that are not, you know,

Brennan Donovan, Coutel Marte, Niko Horner, etc. Right. Geno Suarez. Hopefully, jazzism. That would be cool.

So we'll continue this discussion and just kind of talk about now. Like should they pivot from the Brennan Donovan? situation or when is the appropriate time to pivot away from that if it doesn't seem like anything is moving forward on that front we'll go over that in just a moment but first a reminder this episode of the lockdown airs podcast is brought to you by rocket money let's be real managing your finances can feel overwhelming between subscriptions you forgot about bills that keep going up and trying to figure out where all your money actually goes each month it's easy to feel like you're losing control and who has time to track every transaction or hunt

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Marte, Horner, etc. Because right now, to me, it just kind of feels like they've put their offers out on those guys and now they're just

kind of waiting, you know, a little bit like what what we talked about in the first segment. So, you know, eventually you don't want to be left without a chair here.

You don't want to be left with nothing to show for it, you know, from, you know, after, you know, signing Rough Snyder, right? So,

like, at what point do you just go like this is a loss cause like you know maybe we'll circle back later but hym bloom isn't moving off of his asking price like i i kind of feel like they already have specifically about donovan um i i don't think the mariners are waiting for donovan to be decided before they i think right now they're probably going to be like donovan's not getting traded so i think they moved on i think right now they're focus is on Nico Horner that would just be a hunch based on a lot of like not direct information but a lot of like indirect information about how we know the marries feel about Nico and the

consistent and outgrowing chatter that the Cubs will trade Nico now they're being linked to Boba shed all of a sudden so like I think that's probably something that is likely going to happen and the Mariners are a team that can bid with just about anybody in terms of prospect capital to acquire Nico and he's such a good fit. So I think they're kind of focused on that right now. But in general, when do you like pivot away from, you know, just these guys? I guess my question would be who do you pivot to if not one of these guys? Exactly.

Yeah. So like what is the incentive to pivot away from these guys if you're pivoting into nothing? Yeah. So that was the second question that I was going to ask you like are the fallback options that are still remaining are they actually worth moving on from these guys for like can would you like can you like can you live with just essentially standing pat at the end of this like say some of those fallback options go off the board by the time that you finally decide okay donovan's not happening horner is not happening whatever geno's not happening because really it's like

basically my question here is like if you're not willing to wait on Gino's market to get to a point that you're more comfortable with are you willing to just go sign Reese Hoskins now I don't think so if it is like

and again Hoskins is just kind of a placeholder it's that type of player yeah I don't think so because I don't that that type of player is so limited in how they can help you that I think it's worth risking, you know, that look, if we stay in this game so long that we miss on the Reese Hoskin types, there's probably one or two other guys like that, that we can still go get via trade that we haven't talked about or we can still go sign, you know, in free agency.

I just, I don't think that missing out on those type of players is enough of a threat for me to move off of these guys right now, maybe in a couple weeks. as we, you know, get really close to pitchers and catchers right around February 1st. At some point, you just got to get what you can get. And then you kind of try and backfill and figure it out afterwards. But right now, I don't have really any incentive to pivot off because the pivot off of these players that we've talked about that, you know, to pivot two players that we can actually envision the Mariners signing, I just don't think there's enough upside there. Like if we were talking about pivot off of Brennan Donovan and just go sign Beau Bichette, then like, fine. I do that, but the Mariners aren't going to be in on the Bobachette market.

We know that. So it's just kind of one of those things where it's like, what, again, what are you pivoting to? Like, what is the, is the pivot Yondi Diaz? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be interested in that. If the pivot is, you know, Reese Hoskins is like, I'd probably stay over here a little bit longer and then just risk

losing a Hoskins type or a Yon Moncada type because the upside is still better if I stay over here. So it's, it's kind of one of those things like, you know, how. long do you stay in those markets, how long before you just settle and get what you can. That that's kind of the big question of the offseason now that we've kind of, we've crossed that event horizon of, you know, we're closer to pitchers and catchers or we're closer to opening day than we are to the end of the 2025 season. We kind of have to start making those moves now and we have to start accepting the market for

what it is. and we can hope that there is that late, you know, market change or whatever, but, you know, that's risky. That's a risky game to play. So it is kind of a weird situation that the Mariners are in. And it's a, you know, it's a avenue that they've been in before and they failed before to read that correctly. So, you know, fingers crossed, they learned the lesson there. But I don't know exactly when it is time to, like, get out and just, like, scramble for the scraps and get what you can. I'm not quite sure when that is.

That's above my pay grade. Yeah, yeah. We'll talk a little bit more about that in the third segment. But real quick, galaxy brain time, right? No. It was reported this morning, too bad. I'm doing it. It was reported this morning that the Cubs are getting close to acquiring

Edward Cabrera from the Marlins. Even Ken Rosenthal has corroborated this report now. So it seems like that's happening, but it hasn't been official or it hasn't been, you know, made official yet. What if the maras are involved in this somehow, some way? Owen Casey's name has been thrown around in the steel. It's likely he's in this steel.

Yeah, but probably not going to take just Owen Casey to get Edward Cabrera from the Marlins. So now the Cubs have other nice prospects, you know, Jackson Wiggins, Kevin O'Conra, Jefferson Rojas, etc. You know, there's quite a few guys that, you know, the Marlins could very well be interested in here for Cabrera. Jonathan Long, you know, but what if, because there was this report about Boba Chet that, like, kind of coincided with the.

Armstrong to the Mariners, we get at Ty to spit it out. Of course, of course. But he's not a righty. So do you want to. What if the Cubs use Nico Horner to cut down on some of the prospect costs, get the mariners to send? Sanja. DeRangelo, Sanja, Las Montes, whatever, to Miami. Yeah.

And the mayor is getting Nico Horner. I can see it. So. But it feels like at this point, if it was a three-team trade, we'd probably know about it by now. But maybe not. Yeah. I mean, we, like, we heard that this deal was being finalized almost two hours ago as we're recording this.

Yeah. By the time you guys are listening to this, it might be finalized. And this could all be, like, hearsay and just speculation. But let me cook. Sure. Whatever you say, Walter. So like, yeah, it's, it's possible.

I mean, one thing that we've, we've, you know, talked about briefly a few weeks ago, I don't even know what made the show or not, is that like, you know, Jerry's never made a true three team trade with the marriage. Yeah, he's made pseudo three team deals. Right. He's never actually done. Like, yeah. And so it's kind of.

the only thing he hasn't done, the only type of trade he hasn't done. He's done minor leaguers for minor leaguers, major league for major leagery. He's done the typical buy, sell trades. Hasn't really done a three-team trade, not technically. So maybe they cross that off the list.

And it does make some sense. If you're the Cubs and you're like, ah, you know, we're getting this young pitcher, but we're giving up Casey and Long and blah, blah, blah. This is a little tight. Okay, well, we'll give you Sanja and, you know, type heat or whatever for a need. and you know or maybe you end up sending sanger to the to the marlins and that allows the

cubs to keep long or whatever and and as in exchange for that they give you nico or something like that so yeah that seems pretty plausible it's just you know at this stage we probably heard there may be a third team involved blah blah blah but again it's been two hours now as we're as we're recording this since we've kind of first almost two and a half hours and we haven't heard any update other than like oh and case he's probably in the deal and that's mostly because the marlins liked him over the summer it hasn't even been like confirmed that yes case he's in this deal is just like well the marlins really liked him in the summer so it makes sense that he would headline this package so we'll see where it goes again as you guys are listening to this

you probably know how it went but sure i think that's a possibility all right so you talked about how like there aren't that many fallback options like who even are the fallback options from the donovans and the genos of the world um so how close are we to the mariners standing path the rest of the way uh this off season how close are we to that being an actual reality we'll talk about that in just a moment but first a reminder this episode of the lockdown airs podcast is brought to you by fanduel during basketball season and Fanduil is making them even better. Every Friday night before the games tip off,

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Marys, we talk Seahawks, we talk all that good stuff. For more information, go to patreon.com forward slash control the zone link in the description of this episode so as we talked about in segment two colby yeah there's there's brennan donovan there's nico horner there's chtel martay there's gino swores but after those four guys who's left who actually makes sense for the mirrors so i want to know like how many players away are we from the mirrors just like standing pat this off-season the rest of the way obviously they've done stuff this off-season

but they don't really do anything of significance post-Ref Snyder I mean again kind of what is significant blah blah blah yeah I think after those

those handful of guys you just named I think you'd be in like the red zone of that being like it for the mariners in the off season especially on the offensive side like they could always add relievers later blah blah when i when i say significant just to be clear talking about everyday bat yeah that might be it again there's just not really anything in the free agent market that the mariners would actually be in play for like again should they be in play for kyle tucker and boba shed and cody but yes yes especially if those guys's markets fall apart yes

Bregman like yeah of course they should will they be no we know they won't like there there's no reason to even pretend uh that they will be so unless there's some kind of Robinson Canoe level surprise for us waiting on the Boba Shet market or whatever um yeah it really is those four or five guys and then after that it's like maybe a yondi Diaz but the the raise have been incredibly uh resistant to trading him uh so yeah i think if You know, if over the next week or two, Gino goes off the board and, like, there's no movement on the Donovan front and maybe Bichette signs elsewhere and, you know, Nico's not really available anymore, blah, blah, blah. Then, yeah, at that point, I think there's a pretty good possibility that the Mariners will just look at and be like, I mean, like we talked about in the last segment, is Moncada really worth not just rolling with Emerson? And maybe, I mean, I'm not saying he's not, but will the Mariners view that way?

I don't know. So, yeah, it's a little tough to say. I just, I can't imagine them going into the, into the, into the season with like 10 million, 15 million dollars, which is about what they have right now, 15-ish million dollars. With that that, just like, not being touched me like, oh, we're going to save it for the deadline. It's like, you're not going to spend 15 million dollars at the deadline. So, I mean, you added the two best bets at the deadline this past, uh, eight. Yeah, this past season and you added like eight to ten million dollars. yeah so it's just one of those things where it's like i think once those guys fly off the board

you can start to have like real conversations about like is this actually an upgrade over what we're planning to roll out there right now like is montata an upgrade over emerson i mean probably production wise but also montata hasn't played in a hundred games in like three four years now so you know it is renhifo really that much safer than then cole young I don't know. I mean, maybe they still go get a guy like that just as depth. But like in terms of adding somebody who will definitely be in the opening day lineup and be like the regular at a position, I would say after those guys leave, leave the market, I would say the odds of them adding that significant of a piece in terms of like an everyday player are, yeah, the odds of them not doing that.

They would be inside like the 10 yard line. Yeah. Take kind of a kind of a mixed metaphor. for you. Take kind of a Hail Mary for them to actually score that big time bat they're looking for if those guys go off the board and you don't land one of them. Well, and I

just, I don't foresee them taking on, you know, bringing in one of these like fringe type of dudes, you know, like the Renhifos of the world or even the macadas of the world when, you know, they want to try and give as much runway as possible

to Cole Young and Cole Emerson. Like, would they do it for Brennan Donovan, sure. Would they do it for Nico Horner? Sure. But, you know, for someone, you know, as low tier as like a like a Moncada or Renhifo, who's an even lower tier than Moncada, like probably not. Like maybe as a bench bat. Like Rehifo still makes sense as a as a bench bat. Like do they like him? But then we get to the point though where it's like, do we like Luis Renhifo three million dollars more than we like Leo Rivas? Probably not. They should say yes, but probably not. but again like you're you're not going to spend the money so what does it matter like you can't be like oh money's tight we might need that three million dollars like no you won't no you won't so yeah it's again even if they don't land one of these guys i could still see them landing you know a a willie castro uh ranhifo maybe a moncata type uh like that and could those guys end up being significant additions sure it's possible they've had stretches in their careers where they have been you know everyday guys and certainly valuable pieces and they all kind of fit still on the roster as kind of ultra utility guys. I mean, McCona's probably more full-time D-H

but Castro and Rehifo still fit as like those big-time utility options. So yeah, I could still see them doing that even if they whiff on these guys. But in terms of like, hey, they added a guy who's going to hit in the top five or six of your lineup every day. These are pretty much it, as far as I can tell.

Well, and then also like it's not just blocking Emerson or Young or Williams or whatever, right? It's also like, what if you add a first base DH type? And then at that point, you're breaking up, you know, the Ruff Snyder-Kanzone platoon, which now is going to affect the Rayleigh Robles platoon, which means that you're probably going to have to move on

from one of those guys. Are you going to do that for the sake of adding a Reese Hoskins? I can't see them doing that. Maybe, but yeah. You can make the argument that they should, but like, I don't think that's a different discussion but like yeah is there really any reason to believe that ruse hoskins is better than than luke raleigh no not really so yeah it is kind of weird uh but we'll see i don't like the i don't like the i don't like the i like luke rale fine i don't love

can zone being the primary dh but at this stage like you said who else is there that i like more in the Dom-Kan zone. If it's not Gino or one of those guys. Yeah. Tough to say. All right. So we're going to wrap up by playing a little bit of a game here. It's like this or that.

Would you rather, whatever, whatever you want to call it. I'm just, I'm going to give you two players. You're going to tell me which one you would rather have. And we're going to work our way up the ladder. All right. Okay. So starting with Luis Renhifo or Willie Castro. Um

Willie Castro Okay Willie Castro or Yohama and Cato I still believe Willie Castro Okay Willie Castro or Luis Arise Willie Castro

Willie Castro or Reese Hoskins I think versatility alone I'm still going to go with Castro Okay Billy Castro or Miguel and Duhar? And a Har, I think. Okay.

Miguel and Duhar or Royce Lewis. I think I'm taking the shot on Royce Lewis. Okay. Royce Lewis or Zach McKinstry? That's a good one. I don't know how much I bought McKinstree last year. That's kind of the problem. But Royce Lewis hasn't been good in a couple of years.

So I guess McKinstree. Okay. McKinstree can also play some short stops, Cornelphield. A little more versatile, healthier. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Zach McKinstry or Alec Bome. Probably McKinstry. All right. These are all tosses. This is a good, this is a good change. I, good job. Yeah. All right.

Zach McKinstry or Gino Swara's. Gino. Okay. Gino Suarez or Yandi D.S. Yondi. Okay. Yondi or Jake Kronerth? Yondi.

Okay. Yondi or Brennan Donovan? Yondi. I mean, I think if you're taking Yondi over J. Kronawerth, you need to take Yondi over Brennan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Because, like, at that point, it's a right-handed hitter who's a significantly better hitter than Donovan. so like yeah i take the the offensive security over the potential versatility they both have two years left so yeah i'm taking yondi okay yondi or jazz chisholm jazz okay jazz or kettel marty factoring in trade cost I think I probably still have to go Cotel. I don't know.

It's just like, would I rather have Jazz and Bryce Miller or Cotel Marte? You know. Right. Is it whatever they have Bryce and jazz or like Cotel Marte and I don't know, Ryan Sloan or whatever it is. Sure. Probably still Marte, but that's, yeah, it's close.

All right. Last one. Cotel Marte or Nico Horner. Nico. all right just factored yeah obviously

morta is the better bat but when you factor in base running a defense coroner is not too far behind in terms of overall value

and he's going to cost a little bit less I think yeah I mean like Ketel is often referred to as the best second baseman in baseball

but is do you think Nico is better because of the other stuff that he brings to the table this is where things get to

like people look at Nico he doesn't even slug for it's like yeah but he's got a 350 on base he steals bags and he's an elite defender at shortstop and second base so and again it's a one-year deal it might actually help you in terms of like hey he's not a long-term threat i i think that nico is in the same tier a player as could tell marty even though marty is a significantly more valuable bat that's how good the base running in the glove of nico horner are so yeah i i think i don't think

I think it's, Marte stands alone as the best second baseman in baseball. I think you have to throw, it's Marte and Nico, and then maybe even Jazz, like, is right there pretty close to. So I don't think that Marte is significantly better because you do have to factor in defense. Marte is not great. You do have to factor in base running. He's fine, but he's not. Jazz is probably the most balanced of the three.

I think so. You get some pop, you get some speed. You get good defense. I think jazz is, yeah, the most balanced of the three. But I think, Nico, like I said, I think you pick any of the three and it'd be like, this is the best second basement of baseball. I'd be like, okay, I could buy that. Yeah. All right.

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