Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - James Paxton, Dylan Cease Rumors Raise Interesting Questions About the Mariners' Offseason

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

The rumor mill has most recently linked the Mariners to starting pitchers James Paxton and Dylan Cease, raising interesting questions about how the team will approach the remainder of the offseason. Is a reunion with Paxton in the cards? Could Seattle swing big for another top-end pitcher in Cease? Are either worth the team's limited pool of resources with several question marks remaining in the offense? Ty and Colby discuss that and more.Click to submit your Fan Fiction Friday proposals!Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @TyDaneGonzalez | @CPat11Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!FanDuelScore early this NFL season with FanDuel, America’s Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That’s A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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The link as well as our social accounts is in the description of this episode. Today's episode is all about pitching. We're going to talk James Paxton and Dylan Sees. And over the course of that, we'll discuss how adding a pitcher impacts the rest of the Mariners roster build. We're going to start with Paxton. Is the Big Maple? coming back to Seattle. That's what a lot of Mariners fans are wondering after Canadian reporter Chad

Day, who's broken pretty much every piece of James Paxton related news over the past few years, tweeted on Monday that Paxton was in attendance at the NHL Winter Classic game between the Cracken and the Golden Knights at T-Mobile Park and was even watching the game from the Mariners' owner's suite. So naturally, that sent a lot of fans into a frenzy on social media. Paxton's obviously a fan favorite. So a lot of fans would be very excited about that. But this morning, we need to mention Ryan DeVish of the Seattle Times said he reached out to Paxson, who told him that the Mariners have actually not contacted him this offseason.

But he would love to make a reunion happen. So who knows? So Colby, we talked about this on our Patreon show yesterday. It does seem like Chad Day's tweet was a bit overblown, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the Mariners won't eventually circle around to Pax in this off season. So what do you think of that possibility? Yeah, as predicted, you know, Mariners Twitter went into overdrive after the tweet. And as predicted, it was a nothing burger, although Ty certainly played it up.

But, yeah, you know, Chad Day has been pretty accurate on Paxon-related stuff recently. I'm just saying, I'm like, yeah, but I felt like there might be an actual reason that Let's just say one of us was a lot more skeptical than the other one, and that person was proven right. Shortly after we ended up. I'm just hopeful. I'm just saying. Sure. I mean, more realistic, but.

Sure. Yeah, you know, I love James Fax, and he's a great dude by all accounts. And obviously, he really cares about, you know, the Mariners. And it's just in general. Like, he cares about the fan base and whatnot. So, yeah, I'm not surprised to hear that, like, he would love to come back. I'm not surprised, honestly, that he would be in Seattle for, you know, an event like this. I think that makes a lot of sense.

You know, Paxton has a house in Kirkland, I think, Bellevues. He has a house in a suburb of Seattle. And he also obviously lives and he's from British Columbia. So he's a Pacific Northwest guy pretty much through and through. So, yeah, I mean, a lot of this makes sense, right? That like, yeah, he would like to pitch for Seattle again. And yeah, he would go to this big event that's happening in Seattle, you know, when he already lives near there and all of that. So good to hear James is doing well.

I like I said, really like the guy. But there's really no question about it that there are some pretty, you know, pretty alarming red flags about this idea in general. Not the least of which is that. Frankie Montes just got $15, $16 million for an anything. being pitched in 2023 and the pitching market is really doing what we thought the hitters market would do where

those guys the pitching market is actually getting contracts that are slightly because that's the actual saturated group yeah and yet Lucas Gialito is getting $19 million a year and coming off of two terrible years and you know like I said Montes just threw an inning and he

got $15 million dollars like Slaverino got 13 mil yeah So Paxton's going to be looking for at least that. And what we know about the Mariners payroll situation is that it's not unlimited. It's not even close to what they thought it was going to be. And so we don't know what the exact number left is, but if you're having to pay James Paxton, conservatively, $13 to $15 million, maybe more because Paxton was actually okay last year.

And he threw close to 100 innings, which some of these guys didn't do. and they're getting $13, $15 million. So, like, even if he gives you a deal and you get them for $10 million, like that's a lot of your budget, presumably, that you just gave to a pitcher that you can't really trust to stay healthy all that much. So it's not a super easy fit. It's not, you know, a no-brainer. And there are some big red flags. That being said, I love James Paxton, and I'm never going to get mad at the Mariners for signing James Paxton.

So a little bit of a gray area for me. I'm not going to be totally objective about that. this because again, I just, Big Maple is awesome. And I do think you could help this team. I really do. It's just a matter of, is it the smartest allocation of resources? If the Mariners have as few resources as we've kind of been led to believe, then I would say it's really borderline. It's really tough to see them sign Paxton and still get the impact elsewhere that they need.

So, yeah, I'm on the fence about it. I just in a pure vacuum, I don't think it makes a lot of sense to give, you know, really any pitcher, $15 million to be like the number four or number five. But there are certainly scenarios where that could come into play and where that could work out. And we'll talk about them a little bit later. But yeah, you know, James, I just don't see the fit right now as things stand. And even if there was a fit, could you do a little bit better for the 15, maybe a little bit safer or a little bit just better in general? Like, you probably could.

So I don't know. I'm on the fence with Paxon. Like I said, I'd love to have him here, but I just don't think that the resource allocation is going to make it make sense for the Mariners to seriously pursue him. Yeah, we'll get more into the resource allocation stuff and just a little bit. But, you know, on Paxon, like you, I'm biased. I love James Paxon. I was there for his no hitter. Like, I have a pretty special connection with Paxon as a fan of the team.

So, like, always going to be a huge fan of the Big Maple. Would love for him to come back under really any circumstance. You know, this year made his return from injury. You know, obviously he had the injury in the first game that he pitched back with the Mariners in 2021. As a result, he missed all of 2022. Came back in May this year with Red Sox 96 innings pitched. 947Ks per 9.309 walks per 9.4.0.E.R. 4-6-8. Those numbers look a lot better if you remove his last three starts of the year.

And Colby, there's some numbers that you went over on the Patreon show. I don't know if you haven't pulled up again, if you do, or if you remember them off the top of your head. I'd love to have you, you know, read those out because I think there's some thought there that he could still be like absolute ceiling, like probably not. He's probably like an actual like number four,

but absolute ceiling, he could still be like a low in three, right? Yeah. You know, I watched some of his starts the other day because it was New Year's Day and that holiday sucks. So I went back. I looked at some of his starts and I was going to watch more just in case this turned out to be something, but obviously it didn't. But based on what I saw, Paxton still looks like a legitimate, you know, number, at least the number four, probably number three.

I saw starts where he was 94 to 97 with a really strong cutter slider, the pitch that we never figured out what it actually was. And a pretty good curveball. So he was throwing strikes that obviously based on the K for nine. the thing that really got him was the home run to fly ball rate last year it was at 17.8% I think is what it was. Like that's obviously super inflated over what it normally is. But Paxton still misses bats. He still has good stuff. He still throws plenty of strikes.

Like it's a number four starter. I feel really comfortable about Paxon being a number four starter. For how many innings? I don't know. So that's kind of the red flag there. but what I saw from Healthy James Paxton last year was that dude's still a number middle or the rotation arm at least. So yeah, I mean, he's still thrown hard.

Like I said, the cutter still has bite, still has that kind of overhanging curveball that he flips in there for strikes. Like he's a good pitcher still. He can definitely help a team. For sure. So we're going to talk about Dylan Seas. We're going to talk about resource allocation when it comes to pitching for the Mariners. And if that's the best route.

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And folks, on Friday, it is Fan Fiction Friday, of course. Well, barring any moves, we all always have to add that little caveat, so barring any moves by the Marys. Fan Fiction Friday on Friday, we will have a form in the description of this show, whether you're listening

on podcast platforms or watching on YouTube. You can click that link, go to the Google form, and submit your Mariners trade proposals and we will try to read and grade as many as we can on Friday's show. So as you mentioned Colby earlier when we're talking about Paxon with the way that the pitching market has gone lately, I don't see any way that even with his injury concerns, even with his age, even with the fact that he only threw 96 innings this past year, he's not getting

at minimum less than $10 million. dollars. Yeah. Like I feel pretty confident seeing what some of these other pitchers have gotten that he's going to make at least 13 from whoever he signs with. Now we know or at least we assume that the Mariners have a very, very restricted payroll right now. All indications or all signs point to that being the case, right? And there's been reports about them only having about $20 to $25 million. And that was before the Mitch Garber signing. So we don't know how that contract is structured, right?

And you, John Stanton, for making us worry about a two-year $24 million contract. If that's backloaded and what the opt-out is and 2026 and all that stuff. So silly. But that's the point we're at. Every million dollars counts right now. So we don't know if that's $8 million into what they can spend for 2024. We don't know if that's $10 million. We don't know if it's just $12 million, how you would think with the way that the contract

is laid out, two years, $24 million. He gets $12 this year. He gets 12 next year. Who knows? We don't know. But Paxton gets like $13 million. Or say he does give you a deal and you get him for like 11 and a half. That's presumably a significant chunk of the.

remaining resources you have at your disposal. Does that seem like the smartest route for the Mariners to take this off season? Or can they get to a point where that becomes the smartest route they can take this off season? If they can acquire the, essentially the, the Bryce Miller and Brian Wu of offense, while giving up only one of those guys, then maybe. But it's hard for me to imagine. And because like I don't know off the top of my head who that guy is.

Like, um, is it Matt McLean and Bryce Miller? Like, or is no L. V. Marte and Brian Wu, is it something like that? Like if you could get those two guys and then you were played, then, you know, you add two bats to your starting lineup who are making the league minimum, then yeah, you could in theory. Or maybe it's just one guy who's making the league minimum and another guy who's making like $10 million. Maybe it's a Rosenerana and Royce Lewis. I don't know, right? Like, if it's those two guys and one cost you Miller and the other one cost you woo, then yeah, spending the money on a pitcher would make some sense.

But you kind of have to, it's triage right now, right? For the mariners, you kind of have to do the best you can with what you have available to you and allocating that much money. Like, if Garver comes in a 10, right, just to play it safe, if he comes in a 10, then we think maybe the Mariners at the high end have 25-ish million dollars left to play with. at the high end. You're going to get 15 of that to Paxson. Let's say Paxson gives you a deal.

All right. He gives $12 million. You're going to give them half of what you have left. You're going to give half. And you still need bullpen arms. You still need another bat. You still need a bench bat. Like it gets very tight, very quick.

So now what you're having to do is you're in order to pay for Paxon, you're probably having to trade like Thai France. And but the issue with that is is that now who plays for a space. Now I've just added to another position. Now I have another position. position I have to add to a position group that I already have some depth that, like reasonable depth that. So it's a really tough balancing act, you know, and so that's why it's, it's tough for me to

imagine that you can get Paxton signed to a number that he'll take without it costing you a pretty significant bad upgrade. Because like, I, like, I would rather, in a vacuum, I'd rather have James Paxton than Adam Duvall for the Mariners this year, this Mariners team roster, as it's currently constructed. Duval makes way more sense than James Paxton. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's just kind of the, the tight, you know, the tight window you're trying to thread right now. Like it's, you're trying to throw a tire through a, or a football through a tire swing that's moving at 100 miles an hour if you sign James Paxton. Like good luck. You can maybe do it, but it's going to be really hard. Yeah. I, you know, I saw, uh, some, some takes, some tweets, whatever. I, uh, I, after the Chad Day tweet came out, you know, a lot of people saying like,

well, this doesn't necessarily like, have to be a precursor to a Miller or Wu trade if they sign Paxson. And you're right. It doesn't necessarily have to be that. Because there are, I mean, they have depth issues in their rotation right now,

especially with the question marks of Emerson Hancock and Brian Wu. And beyond those two guys, like we talked about, I think on Monday, Darren McCacken's like you're number seven right now. So they do have some depth issues. It's not the worst idea in the world to start Brian Wu and AA or AAA to manage him that way. You could run a six-man rotation to manage the Indians of your top guys

and Miller and Wu at the back end. There's a lot of different things that you could do, right? That do make sense on the surface. But it kind of has to, has to be a precursor to a trade with the way that the mariners are currently constructed and what they have available to them in terms of money. Because if you're given James Baxter half of your available funds or even more, if it's three quarters of what you have available to you, you're not going to be able to build the offense that you need, quite frankly, without trading Miller or will. like just straight up again love james paxton would love having him back really under any circumstance

just from the the biased james paxon fan that i am but also the logical baseball analyst that i am would hate it because james paxton for this particular roster to join the fray of bryce miller brian woo emerson hancock to essentially be that number five behind Miller or number six if they went with a six round rotation that's not worth 13 or 15 million dollars it's not at all not to the mariner specifically yeah so that's one issue that I have with and also I feel differently I would feel differently about a paxton signing depending on who they traded right because if you trade Miller then you're talking about your number four and number five spots coming down to some combination of James Paxon, Brian Wu, and Emerson, Hancock, who all three of those guys, you can't really feel super

confident in them giving you 100 plus innings. I think Wu more so than the other two, because of Paxon's long injury history and Hancock has another shoulder thing that's going on. For Wu, it's mostly just about getting further and further removed from Tommy John, but even then we saw him get pretty gassed out there towards the end of this season. Does that have an impact on 2024 on the start of his 2024? This also adds more validity to the possibility of starting him in double a or triple a managing his innings and buying yourself some more time to kind of ease him back into things. So there's a lot of question marks with that. And so I would feel a lot more negatively about a Paxton signing if they traded Miller and now my number four number five again is

some combination of those three guys at least until the summer when Robbie Ray might be a factor and we don't know if Robbie Ray is going to be a factor there might be setbacks you know a lot of people are just kind of assuming that Robbie Ray is going to come back and he's going to be Robbie Ray there is no guarantee of that whatsoever this summer so do I think that those guys could help buy you some time to get to July when Ray might be able to come back or you can make a trade for another pitcher sure but I don't feel great about that to start the season quite frankly yeah because I mean if if you trade Miller then it's two of those guys with only one in reserve you trade woo um then it's you know it's two of those guys not three of those guys uh but also Miller is just

a safer bet to you know give you 160 hundred seven innings right He also has less of an injury history. And the Mariners rotation in general, right, as it sits right now, minus Brian Wu, pretty good health like histories, even Robbie. But again, Robbie Ray had a fantastic, you know, history. You never know, man. Yeah. Hitchin is a very stressful thing on the body.

It can happen to anyone at any given moment. That's what makes it so scary. Yeah. And that's what makes it so valuable. So, yeah. I think if I'm replacing, like if I trade Bryce Miller, right? Hypothetically,

I'm looking for a different type of pitcher to replace them than if I trade Brian Wu. Like if I'm trading Brian Wu, I'm willing to take more of a risk. I'm just looking for upside. If I trade Bryce Miller, I need some relative certainty. Yeah.

Because I, I'm counting on the endings that Bryce Miller in theories. And if that means that I'm getting a worse pitcher, so be it. Yeah, I can't have two guys in my rotation at the same time who, literally can't stay healthy. And I also feel like I can get someone that can give me innings of like a four and a half

ERA and we're just using ERA because that's the simplest stat here. I can probably get that guy for like five million bucks rather than pay James Paxon $15 million with all the question marks that come with him. Sure. Alex Wood. Yeah. Johnny Quato. Like somebody like that. Yeah. You're listening to the lockdown Marrace podcast. Thank you again for making us your first listen. So We've talked about the money aspect of, you know, pouring resources, more resources into your starting rotation. But what about trade assets, prospects? The yapper has added again, folks.

John Marosi has linked the Mariners. Breaking News has linked the Mariners to yet another player out on the market. It doesn't matter if it's free agent or trade. He's linked the Mariners to pretty much every player in Major League Baseball at this point. Marosi mentioned the Mariners as a potential suitor for White Sox Ace. I almost said Red Sox. White Sox Ace Dylan Seas. He was on MLB Network yesterday talking about the Orioles as being essentially the front runners for Seas,

who seems very likely is going to get traded at some point over the next couple months. But he did throw in the Mariners there towards the end of his spiel because he clearly has some quota. that he has to fill when it comes to the Mariners and players. So the only reason we're talking about this is because Colby, you had a Dylan Seas trade idea a while back. We talked about it on this show. So clearly you think that Seas is a potential fit for the Mariners. So what do you think about trading for Dylan Sees?

And, you know, your idea was kind of tied to also trading Logan Gilbert. But what if you don't trade Logan Gilbert? What if you just trade for Dylan Seas? Yeah, you know, CES is obviously like kind of the big picture that's out there right now in the trade market, especially now that Glass now is off the table. And apparently Chris Sales out there too. So, yeah, CES is kind of the biggest name. Unless you are a Red Sox fan and you think you're entitled to George Kirby. Dylan Cese is the biggest trade chip available right now. Nick York for George Kirby, of course. Sure. at least he's the biggest guy who we know is being shopped. Like if Jesus Lazzardo was being shopped,

he might be the most valuable arm out there. But C's the guy who we know is getting shopped. We know he's likely to get traded sometime between now and whenever the trade deadline is this upcoming year. So he's the big name. He's what does it take to get him is my question. Because I think it takes two of your top five. two of your top five or six

and then probably another like top top tenish guy and that's if they're willing to take just prospects. The White Sox might want young major leaguers. You look at what they did in their trade with the Braves for AJ or not AJ mentor for Aaron Bomber. Like they got a lot of they got a lot of bulk,

but it was bulk that could play right away in theory. So maybe they they say yeah, sure, we'll trade you. Dylan Seas, but we want Terry Ford and we want like, Brian Wu. And it's at that point, Jose Cabiero and Sam Haggurdy for Dillon C's chills. Sure. But you know what I mean? Like they might want young major leaguers and you just don't really have that to give unless you're giving Miller a woo. And I guess you could give Wu,

but six years of woo for two years of cease. I don't, what's, I don't really see the point in that. So unless they're willing to take a pure prospect package, uh, I don't, maybe they love Dom Canzone. I guess you could put Canzone in the tray, but now you have to go out and get another outfielder. So.

Now I need three outfielers or Jerry to put it would say two and a half outfielders. So I don't, I don't know there's a path here to a deal unless it's pure prospects. And even then, like if you're the Mariners and there will and like, how are you going to outfit the blue or the, uh,

the Orioles. Yeah. The Orioles need pitching badly. And they have young major leaguers who are like, they've already played in the big leagues. They have a God tier. prospect system right now. Like, like if you're, if you're the white socks,

would you rather have Harry Ford and Gabriel Gonzalez or would you rather have Heston Kirsten and Connor Norby? Like maybe even more on top of that. Yeah. Like, but those are just two guys like they're getting those guys are going to get out bats for a lot of bat bats for the white socks this year. Gordon. They've also had second base issues.

So like Jordan Westport makes a lot of sense for them. Yeah. So I don't see how you can actually outbid these teams unless the White Sox are looking three years down the road and they don't care so much about this year, which is totally possible because it's different to trade a reliever in a starting pitcher. They're just different markets. So it's possible. I would say it's highly unlikely unless you're adding like a Brian Wu to your side of the deal. And at that point, does that really make that much sense for Seattle? Not really.

The Orioles just make such a more. compelling case for for C's yeah I mean the Orioles make all the sense in the world for the only question there is like CISS only do like $8 million in arbitration but is that too rich for the Orioles

blood right now I mean they did just give $13 million to Craig Kimberl which like if you have payroll limitations you probably shouldn't give $13 million to a reliever right but yeah I mean I guess the other X factor would be like do the Orioles even like Dylan C's

true probably i mean they should but you kind of don't know ball if you don't like dylan c's at least to a certain degree sure i mean and again if you're the orials it's like yeah of course we'll give you norby and curestead and like so one one area you could maybe you know scam the system a little bit is if you're willing to take on a bad contract from the white socks so like they because the merriors have a ton of I'm not to do that. Exactly. So like, I mean, is Dylan Cs really worth taking on the $60 million remaining on Andrew Ben Attendees contract? Is he worth, plus the prospect capital you have to give up?

Is he worth taking on the, I think $12 million, Yon Mankata is due this, this upcoming year? Probably not. Like, and like you said, CIS is making like $8 million himself. So I don't see, unless the White Sox are willing to take a pure prospect package, or more or less. Like if they want you to throw in like Dylan Moore like fine, whatever. But yeah, if they want to take a full, you know, prospect package where it's Harry Ford, Gabriel Gonzalez, Michael Arroyo and, you know, Michael Morales like something like that, then yeah, I'm in. I'm interested. Sure.

But I just don't see a scenario where that's actually what it takes. I think, I think he's going to be an Oriole. Yeah. But there are other teams also. The Reds make a lot of sense for the for him to like. Not so much. They've added a lot of pitching, but sure. They could certainly, like, if you're the Reds and you have all this pitching,

you could be like, hey, you want Graham Ashcraft and Noel V. Marte? And like, yeah, the Mariners can't compete with that. Well, and the Reds, the Reds have added pitching, yes, but they haven't added anything close to what Dylan Seas could be. Could be, sure. But the Reds are also a mid-market team who have spent a lot of money for their standards this offseason already.

we'll see. Like I said, I'm a big fan of the screw you pitching staff idea. I think if there's anything I've ever championed that has been like outside the norm, it's been that idea to just go all in on pitching this winter. So I'm certainly interested in Cs. I just don't see a path to a deal unless it's pure prospects. And that's all the White Sox want because you're going to get outbid pretty easily by a team like Baltimore. and Baltimore, I think, has exactly the type of pitcher or exactly the type of players that Chicago would want right now based on where they're at.

So I'm interested. I just think you're going to get outbid pretty easily and pretty quickly. So I just, I don't see it. Yeah. So sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think Dillon Cies is going to be a Seattle mariner. Just going out on a limb there. But hey, you never know. Maybe, you know, we always say this when it comes to trades,

that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So maybe just straight up, the White Sox like the Mariners group of prospects more than the Orioles. If you want upside prospects and you're willing to wait a couple of years, the Mariners top five is better than what the Orioles could offer you. But if you want impact now, like guys who can help you right now, Seattle can't compete with that. So, yeah, yeah.

It's all about what do the White Sox want. Well, that's going to do it for our show. Thank you so much for joining us here on the Lockdown Marriss podcast. For Colby Pat O, I'm Tadang Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at LO underscore Mariners. You can follow me at Tidane Gonzalez and Colby at CPAT 11. That's C-PAT-1. You can also find all that stuff in the description of this episode.

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